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Bray Wyatt.... Only half buried.

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A lot of people think Bray Wyatt (and the Wyatt Family) were buried on Raw by Cena (and then with Show and Henry by his side, later). While, I agree, Wyatt was made to look pretty week DURING the show, which could be considered a 'burial' by Cena. He wasn't fully buried, if you look at the whole picture.

Consider this: Brock Lesnar destroyed Cena at SummerSlam and Cena isn't seen for a full week in WWE. Cena comes back a week later, he has no bandages or apparent ill effects to the beating of his lifetime he took just a week earlier.

He proceeds to have a strong match against Wyatt where he basically is putting the same sort of beating on Wyatt that Brock put on him and he even gets to hit his finisher to end the match.

It looked like that was supposed to be the best beating Cena could put on another guy. But guess what? Wyatt was back wrestling just 1 day later on SmackDown (even kayfabe, he was back 4 days later) wrestling Reigns fairly evenly in the first match and showed no ill effects of the 'beating' he took.

So, that's why I say Wyatt was only 'half buried' by Cena. If he as really fully buried by Cena then he would have not been 'able' to compete later in the week on SmackDown and/or he would have had bandages showing the effects of the match he had with Cena.

So, do you agree with this analysis? I know Cena fans won't be too happy with it but it's WWE Creative's fault really. They lack continuity and believability a lot of times and this was one of them.
 
Yeah, I don't quite agree with that analysis. All that concerned me was Bray Wyatt looking weak AGAIN. It really wasn't a matter of him coming back on Smackdown because as sad as it is to say, not only does the audience of WWE not really care about Smackdown anymore but WWE Creative doesnt care about Smackdown anymore.

Wyatt obviously was on a FANTASTIC run like 6 months ago and we thought he was destined for great things. Now after being put down to Cena and Jericho, that future seems a bit unattainable at least for the near future. And so beatings like the one Cena gave to him on Raw this week doesnt make him seem anymore credible of a threat.

The most infuriating part to me is that Cena didn't even need to go over Bray Wyatt in that fashion in order to seem like a credible threat to Lesnar in a few weeks. His retaliation promos are enough at this point because when John Cena says he's going to win a major PPV match, you kind of believe him.
 
The Smackdown match was...weird.

It was strange because the Big Show carried most of it on the face side of things (and did shockingly well, adding a few new moves to his arsenal). It was strange because Bray ended up looking the weakest of the Wyatt family. Either he acted as a...well, buzzard, attacking people who were already beaten down by Rowan or Luke. Or he was the joke, who'd come in and suddenly get his ass kicked.

The problem, above everything, is Wyatt is being used to give credibility to other talents- whether it's the Show-Mark tag team, Reigns or Cena's newfound badassery. It was only this year other people were being used to give him credibility, so it's not looking too good for his career. The feud with Jericho will obviously end on his side, but that's what Jericho is there for...As Fandango can tell you, conquering Y2J no longer means anything.
 
The Smackdown match was...weird.

It was strange because the Big Show carried most of it on the face side of things (and did shockingly well, adding a few new moves to his arsenal). It was strange because Bray ended up looking the weakest of the Wyatt family. Either he acted as a...well, buzzard, attacking people who were already beaten down by Rowan or Luke. Or he was the joke, who'd come in and suddenly get his ass kicked.

The problem, above everything, is Wyatt is being used to give credibility to other talents- whether it's the Show-Mark tag team, Reigns or Cena's newfound badassery. It was only this year other people were being used to give him credibility, so it's not looking too good for his career. The feud with Jericho will obviously end on his side, but that's what Jericho is there for...As Fandango can tell you, conquering Y2J no longer means anything.

Agreed. My biggest issue with Bray Wyatt over the last few months isn't who he feuding with it's the outcome of all of them. He talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk.

We've to treated to some great promo's and I don't care was anyone says, his entrance and walk to the ring is awesome too see. One of the best ever. No pryo's no flashing lights, just a lantern and thousands of cell phones that look like fireflies in the arena. When you see it live, it's breathtaking.

When it comes to inside the ring though, it's a different story. I just don't think he's all that great. To me and I've said it before, Luke Harper is the standout of the threesome. For a big guy he has the moves and he's quick. Rowan does nothing for me, and if and when they break up, don't know what will happen to him. Never heard him say a word, and he looks like an escapee from a midwest prison somewhere. They have to keep them together for Rowan to be relevant.

I can actually see Wyatt develop himself into some sort of managerial talent. He when he is allowed to let loose is gold on the mic. I say get him out of the ring and put him firmly behind someone. He could still do like HHH does wrestle every once in awhile, but make him a behind the scenes persona. That what every good cult leader does anyway don't they. They make the plans while the henchmen do the dirty work for them.
 
Problem is Bray Wyatt boils down to being an unstoppable force. So when he's stopped it kinda kills his steam because he really does have a whole lot left.

When miz gets stopped people (theoretically) will still find him appealing because his gimmick dosen't rely on winning, he's the wanna be movie star who thinks he's top shit and people wanna see him get his arse wooped.

Any member of the authority can loose clean because we know they'll just add numbers( usually kane) till they win or buy out their opponent ( aka rollins) So any of them loosing dosen't so much

Bryan was all about over coming the odds so if he lost it would just be a matter of time before he got back up went again and finally beat the challenge. Loosing alot really helped him in the end.

Hence the problem with bray is unlike these guys he cant loose. The way hes portrayed has put him in a shitty position because if he is to seem credible he has to win ( at least the war if not the match) Then obviously you have cena who now cant loose and being higher up wins out.

Wyatt is a little buried but its nothing he cant bounce back from, the bigger question is if creative will give him that. One solid month of going back to tearing people apart all three of them together will put them back where they need to be
 
Every single time I come on here see someone use the word "buried" in any context referring to a superstar that's on TV every single week and is involved in big feuds, I want pull my d*ck out by the root. It infuriates me.

Bray Wyatt is not, has not been, at any point whatsoever... buried. If you're going to use the big kid words, make sure you know the definitions. You have no idea what buried even means. Buried is when you trot a guy out to the ring at a random time, and he just gets destroyed without reason or purpose and likely never seen again. Likely very soon after he is ACTUALLY BURIED, he is then... future endeavored. A guy that is a regular performer on television every week and in PPV matches on the regular is pretty much the farthest thing from buried humanly possible.

He's at a slow point. He got paired with Jericho and the story just isn't progressing. It's not his fault. It's that simple. Just because two guys look great on paper, does not mean it's going to be a slam dunk feud. It's a crummy feud. That's all there is to it. Jericho is a guy that just comes back to put over a young guy, which is great. But he's not putting everything he's got into it anymore. Because he doesn't need to. He'll come back, work a guy for three months, then be gone again. This time, it just happened to have the guy he's putting over... take a step back instead of a step forward.

He's not buried. Knock it off.
 
Bray Wyatt is insanely overrated. I cannot understand the insane hard-on the IWC has for this guy. He can barely work a match, his promos are mediocre on his best night and terrible most of the time, and his goofy (not creepy, but downright GOOFY) mannerisms distract from the matches and make his opponents look like complete jokes when they're "terrified" of him doing his spider walk, when anyone with a brain cell would just kick him in the face. I wish he was buried completely and sent back to developmental where he belongs.
 
Bray Wyatt is insanely overrated. I cannot understand the insane hard-on the IWC has for this guy. He can barely work a match, his promos are mediocre on his best night and terrible most of the time, and his goofy (not creepy, but downright GOOFY) mannerisms distract from the matches and make his opponents look like complete jokes when they're "terrified" of him doing his spider walk, when anyone with a brain cell would just kick him in the face. I wish he was buried completely and sent back to developmental where he belongs.

I shouldn't even respond to this because you are clearly in blind hate of this guy. Please tell me you are not a super Cena fan.

Anyway, it is insanity to say Bray Wyatt is overrated. He's actually being underrated right now because every time he goes out to the ring the fans are into it. You can't MAKE people bring out their cell phones and be part of a match or character they are not interested in.

I think fans are actually itching for Wyatt to really get on a roll and show what kind of monster he can be. Unfortunately, he got stuck in the middle of Cena trying to look tough for Lesnar.

But all things can usually be fixed in WWE. Wyatt needs to be strong over the next few months, get some big PPV wins and he and the Wyatt family can go back to to the top 'bad guys' in WWE that the fans want to see.

Oh, and by the way, to say his promos are mediocre at best is laughable. He's AMAZING at promos. Sometimes they aren't easy to understand but he's a compelling speaker and does it so often you clearly take for granted how hard it is to be that good.


But, anyway, the point of this thread is to show that Wyatt is not buried. Not yet, at least. Next week will kind of be the measuring stick.
 
Bray just needs to evolve. Put him down a demented path. He should start questioning his values. Go all psychotic mankind for a while. Have his goons win the tag gold to suffice brays needs. But that won't do. Only John cenas soul will work.
Just an enemy who keeps trying. And when he does succeed,
The payoff will be awesome.
 
To be fair to the overrated claim, he's just not much of a wrestler. He can put on a great match if he's carried, but he needs someone like Daniel Bryan to carry him. On his own, he's just okay.

Of course, you can become a big star with less in the WWE and Bray is compelling in other ways. It comes down to what you want out of your favorite wrestlers. I'm more concerned with Reigns being the face of the company than I am with the idea of Bray being the heel of the company. But it doesn't seem like WWE is that interested in Bray anymore.
 
The are so many Bray Wyatt's threads. Most of them complaining about Bray Wyatt not being booked right, or Bray Wyatt being buried... when he simply is NOT.

If anyone should complain, they should be complaining about MAYBE WWE dropping the ball on Luke Harper and Erick Rowan, who have proven themselves to be a capable tag-team, and much capable in the ring than Bray Wyatt.
 
Agreed. My biggest issue with Bray Wyatt over the last few months isn't who he feuding with it's the outcome of all of them. He talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk.

We've to treated to some great promo's and I don't care was anyone says, his entrance and walk to the ring is awesome too see. One of the best ever. No pryo's no flashing lights, just a lantern and thousands of cell phones that look like fireflies in the arena. When you see it live, it's breathtaking.

When it comes to inside the ring though, it's a different story. I just don't think he's all that great. To me and I've said it before, Luke Harper is the standout of the threesome. For a big guy he has the moves and he's quick. Rowan does nothing for me, and if and when they break up, don't know what will happen to him. Never heard him say a word, and he looks like an escapee from a midwest prison somewhere. They have to keep them together for Rowan to be relevant.

I can actually see Wyatt develop himself into some sort of managerial talent. He when he is allowed to let loose is gold on the mic. I say get him out of the ring and put him firmly behind someone. He could still do like HHH does wrestle every once in awhile, but make him a behind the scenes persona. That what every good cult leader does anyway don't they. They make the plans while the henchmen do the dirty work for them.

This. Agree completely.


A "Semi-Active Type" talent is what Bray Wyatt should have been quite a while ago,tbh.
No need to be on every show(which makes his promos somewhat stale in a sense) also, just have him appear every now and then, and make him somewhat of a Special, Mystery Character... It would also allow Luke Harper and Erick Rowan to grow and also opens loads of Storyline possibilities with Bray in terms of him being a Top Heel character at some point.
 
I honestly don't get what the WWE is doing with the Wyatt Family.

Let's go through their feuds

1. Kane : They take him out before Money In The Bank. Then Kane fights Wyatt in a slightly below par Inferno match, where the Wyatt Family takes him out again and drag him somewhere. Then Kane returns after a while as Corporate Kane. What?

2. Kofi Kingston : I don't even recall a build-up, as such for this feud. Kofi was beaten, and that was that.

3. Miz : Miz was stalked, and beaten up, had Liar written across his chest, and calls out the Wyatts at Hell In A Cell. They beat him down, Kane returns, fails a tombstone pildedriver, then chokeslams Mr. Maryse and becomes Corporate Kane. Again no pay-off to the feud.

4. Punk and D-Bryan : Same old "attack them for weeks and face them at the next PPV".

5. Daniel Bryan : This was their only good feud, storywise, in my opinion. It was the only feud where Wyatt looked like a threat, defeating Bryan and converting him in the process etc.

6. Shield : So they interfere in Cena's Royal Rumble match, and the next night, The Shield gets pissed off at them for interfering in their match. They have a good match, but then again, not much of a pay-off. The Shield doesn't seem to seek retribution against them and goes against the authority, turning themselves face.

7. Cena : And this is where the ball was dropped. I'm no Cena hater, but there was nothing he stood to gain from winning this feud. The worst part of their feud would easily be that Cage match at Extreme Rules. 3 months later, Bray goes on to face Cena a week after Summerslam and get beaten up like a rag-doll, to repair Cena's credibility.

8. Jericho : Well, too early to call this terrible for both of their standards, but there's nothing wrong with doing so either. Their promo work has been average at best, and between Jericho being used as enhancement and Wyatt being mis-managed, the feud hasn't attracted any attention of the favourable kind.

9 The Usos : Mixed in with the Cena program. No pay-off there either.

Apart from Bryan, none of their feuds seemed to have a legitimate/favourable conclusion. 8 out of 9 feuds have been detrimental to their legitimacy as a stable to be feared. The only reason they've still been relevant is because of their promos, vignettes and Luke Harper's in-ring work. I see their relevancy going down further, now that it's post Summerslam season and Vince won't give a crap about any other storyline than the WWEWHC saga.

So to say Wyatt is only half buried or completely buried isn't correct, because he was never truly pushed. Maybe shoved down our throats seems to be more like it.
 
To be fair to the overrated claim, he's just not much of a wrestler. He can put on a great match if he's carried, but he needs someone like Daniel Bryan to carry him. On his own, he's just okay.

Of course, you can become a big star with less in the WWE and Bray is compelling in other ways. It comes down to what you want out of your favorite wrestlers. I'm more concerned with Reigns being the face of the company than I am with the idea of Bray being the heel of the company. But it doesn't seem like WWE is that interested in Bray anymore.

I'd hardly say Wyatt needs to be carried to a great match. I will say he's still very young and can and will improve but he's already doing many things very well, including wrestling.

He has a pretty varied move-set, including clotheslines, body slashes, back splashes on the opponent on the mat, a kind of standing release Rock Bottom, a few other body slams and general intensity. What more would really make sense for his character? I think he definitely could add a few more moves, but he's a good worker and can do pretty much everything needed for his matches.

No, he's probably not great a high flying moves, but he's not supposed to be, and frankly it would make LESS sense than seeing Harper do it. So he's got a good move-set and he sells well and has GREAT in-ring psychology. Say what you want, but that spider walk is brilliant, it gets people to notice you and react.

I think since he's so young there is a lot more he can and will show us, once he is PROPERLY pushed.
 
Don't personally agree that Wyatt was buried at all. He was a case of the right person at the wrong time (I would've booked Orton to take that beating to deliver a larger effect but, Wyatt was next in line). I believe that we as a community, are really overreacting to what happened last Monday. In kayfabe world, with Wyatt overcoming a victory against Jericho (where his family members have been banned from ringside) on the 2nd biggest show of the year, one match on one show to a 15 time world champion with something to prove does not equal a burial. We've got to remember that Wyatt wasn't pinned in their one on one match, nor did he tap at the end of the 6 man tag, and he vastly underestimated Cena when he called him "A shell of a man." As the match started, we found that he couldn't have been more wrong and it showed as soon as Cena landed that first clothesline.
 
It never ceases to amaze me how some are able to consistently misunderstand the meanings of well known terms like overrated or, in this case, buried. Losing a match, losing a match decisively for that matter, doesn't mean that a wrestler is being buried. There HAS be someone who comes out as the winner and someone to come out as the loser.

Bray Wyatt wasn't buried this past week on WWE television, he just happened to be the unfortunate victim of Vince McMahon going into panic mode. For some reason known only to Vince himself, according to reports, he's gotten it in his head that people have "lost faith" in John Cena because of such a decisive, lopsided loss to Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam. Vince is essentially the head booker of WWE as he ultimately decides what goes on and what doesn't but, in this case, he personally wrote out John Cena's booking for Monday night and had him tear through The Wyatt Family like wet tissue paper. Nobody could stop him because he's the CEO of the company, nobody could override the decision, they all had to simply watch as Super Cena obliterated the Family and shake their heads in dismay as it happened. Now while I can't be 100% certain that these reports are accurate, I distinctly remember what I was thinking when Raw went off the air this past Monday: "Vince took charge of booking Cena, his fingerprints were all over it." There are certain booking decisions that play out on television sometimes that you can just tell were decisions that came directly, 100% from Vince McMahon and making Cena look so insanely strong is one of them.

In my opinion, this overprotection of John Cena has been the single, sharp double edged sword in WWE's booking strategy for the past decade. True, you want to keep your top guys looking strong, but Vince is downright fanatical. He protects Cena to such a degree sometimes, he gets it in his head that people are just suddenly going to stop liking Cena if he doesn't come out on top, that it's a detriment to other stars on the roster. By now, John Cena is so firmly established that he could've lost to Brock Lesnar without getting in a single shred of offense and it wouldn't have hurt his image in the least.

Bray Wyatt will recover from what happened Raw this past Monday. It'll take a little time, but it'll eventually happen. The problem is that Vince has such a complete lack of faith in anyone or anything else in WWE, whether it be the executives, writing staff or wrestlers, that he makes mountains outta mole hills. Sometimes, Vince does still make the right decisions and sometimes, he comes off as a total fool and there's nothing more detrimental than someone with power who happens to be a fool.
 
I'd hardly say Wyatt needs to be carried to a great match. I will say he's still very young and can and will improve but he's already doing many things very well, including wrestling.

He has a pretty varied move-set, including clotheslines, body slashes, back splashes on the opponent on the mat, a kind of standing release Rock Bottom, a few other body slams and general intensity. What more would really make sense for his character? I think he definitely could add a few more moves, but he's a good worker and can do pretty much everything needed for his matches.

No, he's probably not great a high flying moves, but he's not supposed to be, and frankly it would make LESS sense than seeing Harper do it. So he's got a good move-set and he sells well and has GREAT in-ring psychology. Say what you want, but that spider walk is brilliant, it gets people to notice you and react.

I think since he's so young there is a lot more he can and will show us, once he is PROPERLY pushed.

It's more about pacing. I have no problem with his moveset. It's just that his matches tend to be rather slow and unremarkable. He does have exceptional in-ring psychology, although much of it is becoming redundant.

When he started spider walking during his last Jericho match, Jericho started to look all scared as if he had never seen it before. But when you look at his matches, most of them are 'meh'. Although once again, I dont think that should effect his push.
 
Wyatt was back wrestling just 1 day later on SmackDown (even kayfabe, he was back 4 days later) wrestling Reigns fairly evenly in the first match and showed no ill effects of the 'beating' he took.

It all concerns the type of characters the Wyatt family are portraying. Unlike just about everyone else, they aren't here to climb the ladder that eventually leads to championships; they're on a different mission....one laid out by Bray, which concerns doling out a brand of justice and punishment known only to him.

Do you ever try to decipher the gobbledygook coming out of his mouth during those mic sessions? Yes, there's a vague sense in his rantings, but his main message is indecipherable. He doesn't care about winning and losing; he cares about getting his opponents to knuckle under to his special brand of justice.

For that reason, he can win matches or lose them; both results are changes in the weather to Bray....and even after being destroyed by John Cena.....with or without the help of John's friends.....he can come back and start the whole thing again the next day. He doesn't react to success or adversity as most of us do......which is an understatement.

So, whether Bray is triumphant.....buried.....or half buried.....he's still ripe & ready to go the next week. WWE has built themselves a durable character .....with a couple of destructive cousins thrown in for good measure. They'll be around until the fans turn away from them.
 
It all concerns the type of characters the Wyatt family are portraying. Unlike just about everyone else, they aren't here to climb the ladder that eventually leads to championships; they're on a different mission....one laid out by Bray, which concerns doling out a brand of justice and punishment known only to him.

Do you ever try to decipher the gobbledygook coming out of his mouth during those mic sessions? Yes, there's a vague sense in his rantings, but his main message is indecipherable. He doesn't care about winning and losing; he cares about getting his opponents to knuckle under to his special brand of justice.

For that reason, he can win matches or lose them; both results are changes in the weather to Bray....and even after being destroyed by John Cena.....with or without the help of John's friends.....he can come back and start the whole thing again the next day. He doesn't react to success or adversity as most of us do......which is an understatement.

So, whether Bray is triumphant.....buried.....or half buried.....he's still ripe & ready to go the next week. WWE has built themselves a durable character .....with a couple of destructive cousins thrown in for good measure. They'll be around until the fans turn away from them.

Keeping him somewhat fresh is the key as well as placing him in interesting programmes...

Like Taker, Bray Wyatt and his family are the perfect type of gimmick that can be used to build engaging storylines away from the Main Event... and whilst tonight's RAW was crap,lMO, Bray being kept to a minor promo is something that should be done regularly, as it keeps him, as I said in an earlier promo, in a Semi-Active type role, whilst also allowing Rowan and Harper to do some stuff on their own.

Right now, WWE needs to put Bray in such a direction, where people would be interested in him because of his agenda...sadly, that has been lacking somewhat even tho, Y2J has been in a programme with him,lMO.
 
No way is he overrated or being buried... he lost to the guy who has been the biggest of the last decade for gods sake... Sure it was "quicker" than usual but look at it logically.

Even Undertaker got demolished by Brock this year, as has Cena... WWE has subtly but surely started to reintroduce the concept that not every big match is gonna be "closely contested"... be it an "off night" or someone finds inspiration or gets THAT mad they have finally changed up the available matches... not everyone gets it, but those who do get that kind of match are doing it for a reason.

The only POSSIBLE negative thing WWE or Vince could have with Bray is that he is getting over too quickly and almost forcing their hand into the face turn. Vince does have a tendency to bury anyone who gets themself over too much without his input... It happened to Ryder, it happened to Paul Burchill and even Hunter, the Kliq moment was a classic case of this...

How many "can't miss" guys have suddenly lost their push over the years cos Vince wasn't the one getting them over... more than you think... the fans take to them that little bit too quick or they do stuff that takes the power out of WWE hands... Best example possible is Fandango... and Fandangoing you'd think Vince would LOVE that his pet project got over... but it wasn't how HE wanted it to go and so... dead push... even RVD got heat in his first run for the thumb/saying his name all the time and struggled for some time... it CAN be that petty.

In all cases one thing is true... after a period of strong push, you have to pay some dues... that has been the way for nearly every main eventer or near main eventer of the last 20 years... Cena COULD have gone over in that entire fued with Wyatt, but didn't... on balance he lost as much as he won...but there's then a price to pay for it and this was maybe it.

Bray isn't doing anything wrong and he has strong support in the back, enough that they won't be killing his character or intentionally damaging it... but if it is overcooking and peaking too soon (which it is heel wise) then they are right to bring it down a bit... look at the Shield, all 3 guys got some spotlight in the last year...but have been cooled down at various points...
 
Regardless of the question of how badly he's being buried, I would like to give a little bit of insight as to why. Not only because of how John Cena always gets his way, but because of the gimmick. Several people around here were talking about Bray's 'message'... about how it's so nebulous that nobody can really parse out what it is. And it's so bad, it's a loose end that's flapping around so much, that it's starting to drag him down.

Look at Brodus Clay. When he came back as the Funkasaurus, nobody expected him to get on. But he was over as hell for far longer than the gimmick deserved. But when nothing changed for him, and the gimmick started to fold in on itself, he got the kiss of death... Albert as a tag-team partner.

But seriously. Mystery is good, but it's time we started developing the character a bit more before creative reaches the wholly unfair decision that they don't have anything for him to do.
 
Funkasaurus was over for maybe one night. After that, it went DRASTICALLY downhill from there. And Brodus Clay put in infinitely more effort than Bray Wyatt does.
 
Bray did what he was told. I think he's fine. Nobody is going to remember what happened between him and Cena, especially after his upcoming match with Jericho on RAW this Monday.

He may need to go back to not wrestling much like he did last year, so when he wrestles it'll seem like a big deal and just let Rowan and Harper do their thing.
 
Bray did what he was told. I think he's fine. Nobody is going to remember what happened between him and Cena, especially after his upcoming match with Jericho on RAW this Monday.

He may need to go back to not wrestling much like he did last year, so when he wrestles it'll seem like a big deal and just let Rowan and Harper do their thing.

Bray Wyatt wrestling should not be treated as a big deal. He's just another wrestler. Only legends should have their matches treated as a big deal, not whoever WWE wants to push at the moment.
 
Funkasaurus was over for maybe one night. After that, it went DRASTICALLY downhill from there. And Brodus Clay put in infinitely more effort than Bray Wyatt does.

You must be joking. Or have the names reversed. Bray Wyatt has put in infinitely more effort that Brodus Clay did.

Did Brodus Clay get over by outstanding mic work and character mannerisms? No. Bray did.

Did Brodus Clay get over by captivating in-ring psychology? No. Bray did.

Has Bray Wyatt already shown more moves and ability wrestling in his relatively short time in WWE than Brodus Clay did his entire career in WWE? Yes.

If you can't agree with those points then you simply have blind hate for Bray Wyatt. And I can respect if you simply don't find the character interesting because that's personal preference, but to suggest he isn't a better performer than Brodus Clay or put in as much, if not way more effort than him, is inaccurate.
 

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