Batista....really? why?

[cod500]

At least the match could have been good. Y2J fought Batista in a cage last year and beat him clean. Why couldn't Orton at least have a good outing, even with Batista's injury, he could suck it up. I dont get it.

 

[AttitudeEra]

I am new to posting on this board but I have been following it for a quite awhile and there is some very good insight by you guys. I wanted to post this as a new thread but for whatever reason I wasn't able to do it.

Anyway, in regards to this topic I must say that I have been watching Raw on a regular basis since 1998 when WCW started tanking and after seeing Batista win the title, injury or not is probably the lowest RAW has been since 1997. A lot of people think Orton is boring and stale but he still gets really good heel heat and has been built to the moon, only to get squashed by a guy who can't work the mic, has 4 or 5 wrestling moves and is almost as injury prone as Mr. Kennedy. Now based on the rumors and speculation he will either drop the title or forfeit it tomorrow night it still made no sense for Orton to drop the title IMO.

Personally, I know this is a little off topic and looking ahead but I was really hoping that HHH comes back and has his HIAC match at Night of Champions against Orton. Hopefully then Orton retains and we see Orton/MVP at Summerslam for the title but it appears that probably won't happen now.

 

[TwistofRKO]

I am so happy Batista is champion.

First of all, he plays his role better than anyone on Raw. Knock him all you want, but he's a 300 pound body builder with a mean streak. He picks people up and throws them down. That is his job. I guess you guys would like him better if he did a few flips and had a nonsensical match with no psychology like Evan Bourne.

Secondly, the crowd loves him. No one on Raw gets a bigger pop than Batista. For all the complaints from the IWC about his getting shoved down their throats, the live crowd never seems to mind. The place explodes for him, and chants his name endlessly. When Flair was getting beaten, the WHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOs stopped, and the Batista chants were in full throat.

There is not a number of flying tiger space drops that can make a match more exciting than one the crowd is into. This is why the cruisers get shit on, and Batista gets pushed. He gets the crowd involved, they love him, he makes the WWE money. Evan Bourne and Jamie Noble are good bathroom break guys. People don't complain that they're on, but they definitely aren't the reason the mass populace watches the show.

It's just too bad it was Batista that got hurt tonight. His title reigns are usually fun, albeit short, and the match he loses the title in is always very exciting. Here's to Batista - Raw's best champion!

But wouldn't you agree he gets a much better reaction and is at his best when he's being screwed out of the title and can get the fans behind that? I mean, I never really liked Batista, but it seems to me that's his best spot. Not everyone fills in the oppressed role well, but Batista seems better at that than as champion.

 

[MyselfTheThird]

Here's to Batista - Raw's best champion!

And that's why Raw sucks-- that's an accurate statement. I really would not mind if he exhibited wrestling ability here and there, but that's just not his game. And you are right, the bid-ass roidasaurus-rex that throws people into the third row is going to get a pretty big pop, especially if he gets the crowd involved like Batista does. BTW we knock Cena because the only people who cheer for him are little kids. Well at least half the arena cheers for Batista, because he can be that anti-hero that has enjoyed success in the past (I would say Austin was about as good in the ring as Batista, but twice as good on the mic).

 

[FromTheSouth]

But wouldn't you agree he gets a much better reaction and is at his best when he's being screwed out of the title and can get the fans behind that? I mean, I never really liked Batista, but it seems to me that's his best spot. Not everyone fills in the oppressed role well, but Batista seems better at that than as champion.

OK, I'll agree. But you can't keep him chasing the title forever and never put it on him. He has to be at the top of the card because of his history in the company.

Look at Jeff Hardy last year. His best spot is winning number one contender matches against the odds, but at some point, you have to put the title on him, or else his appearance in the main event doesn't sell.

Face it, the crowd loves Batista. WWE has to put him over in these matches because it's what the people want. If you continually screw him out of the title, with no payoff, then having him in the main event is a drag on sales, as opposed to a drag on the message board.

Vince would rather piss off these boards than have people not buy PPV's because whether we like it or not, Vince doesn't care what we think, because we will watch anyway.

Also, Batista is a badass. He is one of the few people in the business (with Jeff Hardy and AJ Styles) that get me to become emotionally invested in their matches. As much as you say Batista is boring on the mic (not you specifically, but the whole lot), his promos give me the feeling that nothing matters more to him that being WWE champion. When he interacts with Flair, you can tell he genuinely cares about his friend. Promos aren't all about making people laugh and cheer. They are about putting over a feud and a story. Batista does that. Is it not clear in his promos that he wants the belt and hates Orton? It is not clear in the backstage segments that he wants Flair to be OK and Orton to get hurt? He puts over the story without putting himself over. I love his mic skills. He's no Rock, he doesn't captivate the nation, but he puts the product first and ignores all the self promotion that someone like HHH or HBK might be guilty of.

 

[trent339]

How come orton can dominate the whole Mcmahon family take the title off triple h win the royal rumble but yet the writers make him lose his title to a coockie cutter wrestler like batista in 7mins i mean i kno he was injured but why change the title anyway ?? this sucks

 

[sicmcnasti]

It's obvious that you're trolling, since this thread is not exactly in favor of Batista winning or in praise of his spectacular performance abilities. Regardless, let's look at your points, since Batista is popular with the crowd, he deserves to be in his spot. Well, Jeff Hardy is even more popular and they seem to think he doesn't deserve to hold the title long, so the popularity contest is null and void. Batista doesn't do acrobatics, yet he manages to injure himself anyway while doing moves worthy of a baggage handler at an airport. His matches are for the most part predictable and boring, yet you praise this quality because "the crowd" loves him and he plays his role well, again, Jeff Hardy is exactly the same, yet I wager you'd shoot him down because he actually tries to entertain instead of doing a roid rage act each and every time, why ? Because you're more interested in being "different from the IWC" than you are in being objective. Sorry if I seem to be angry at your opinion, but when people defend the bland because the masses like it I get pissed.

Yeah, remember the time he broke his foot doing push ups? And the time he got injured while running with his ex-wife. That guy is holding the strap. Reasons like these are why I don't even count any championship in WWE as legit anymore. Let's face it, it's all pre-planned, they all know months, weeks, days in advanced that they are GOING to win the title. No maybe. No uncertainty. Not like UFC. Not like NBA. Not like college wrestling or anything. They don't KNOW they're going to win. They can hope to win. They can want to win, but there is that element of true surprise and that ability to call themselves a champion because they weren't booked to win it but because they did it all on their own.
I love wrestling. Have since I was 6 years old. But there are certain aspects that still piss me off. I virtually don't even count champions after they became world wrestling ENTERTAINMENT. Batista winning the belt means as much as Ben Stiller winning an award as a character in Tropic Thunder.
Worst part - they don't even care. Vince. WWE. Everyone who works there could give a shit less. Brock Lesnar said it best, they're all brainwashed. My Dad was moderating an AA meeting with Dustin Rhodes (Golddust) some years back and remarked on how he thought it all was real, how he was so caught up in it, and I think it's sad. They're unionless, bad actors that are well built doing fight scenes for live audiences.
It saddens me. I'm sorry my wrestling fan brothers, but that's what it has come down to for me. I watched one UFC match today and saw a guy who really beat the shit out of another guy and really won a belt then I watched just a little bit of the PPV tonight and I can say the only people who should be proud of a Goddamn thing are Jeff Hardy and Adam Copeland. They did a great job tonight and I've met them both and they are awesome dudes. I'm glad they're living out their dreams and I'm proud of them for that but I just can't stomach some of the shit that I've been seeing as of late in WWE.

 

[FromTheSouth]

It's obvious that you're trolling,

Really? Is it? Or did I want to debate the merits of Batista? Thanks for reading my mind for me. I don't know what I would do without you. Who exactly am I trolling around looking for?

since this thread is not exactly in favor of Batista winning or in praise of his spectacular performance abilities.

And since no one likes Batista in this thread, I should avoid it at all costs? I came in here to take on the world, bring it. I know you can't personally do it, because instead of starting of with my points you accuse me of trolling, trying to delegitimize what I say because you areincapable of offering up good enough arguments to take me down. You just want to say that I don't mean it and I am trying to kick up a storm. I am a Batista fan. You can find twenty posts of mine praising him.

Regardless, let's look at your points,

That's kind of dismissive of you to say. I'm the one people on here know. You're the one they don't.

since Batista is popular with the crowd, he deserves to be in his spot. Well, Jeff Hardy is even more popular and they seem to think he doesn't deserve to hold the title long, so the popularity contest is null and void.

And Batista has year long title reigns? Batista's reigns are never long. The thrill, for his fans, is the chase. He wins, loses it and starts again. This is his role in the company.

Batista doesn't do acrobatics, yet he manages to injure himself anyway while doing moves worthy of a baggage handler at an airport.

He is a 300 pound man. What the fuck moves do you want him to do? I don't understand this five moves bullshit that smarky wannabe bookers throw out there. Evan Bourne knows a million moves, but nobody cares. Wrestlers jobs are to get themselves over with the crowd. SO baggage handler-esque Batista is better at his job than whoever your favorite wrestler is, and that eats you up inside. I can dig it.

His matches are for the most part predictable and boring,

Judging by the way the crowd cheers, chants, and screams, I would say that you are bored because you think you are above marking out. Well, you're not. You should try being a fan instead of a critic no one cares about. you're like Perez Hilton without the following.

yet you praise this quality because "the crowd" loves him and he plays his role well, again, Jeff Hardy is exactly the same, yet I wager you'd shoot him down because he actually tries to entertain instead of doing a roid rage act each and every time,

Actually, no. If you knew what the fuck you were talking about, you would see my appreciation of Jeff Hardy too. Now, let's notice the similarities between the two. Over with the crowd...check. Perform their job based on their size and experience...check. Compelling chasing the title...check. Hated on by smarks because they got over with the crowd....check.

why ? Because you're more interested in being "different from the IWC" than you are in being objective. Sorry if I seem to be angry at your opinion, but when people defend the bland because the masses like it I get pissed.

Uuuhhhh, no. I defend him because I like him. I just cite the populace to show how you're nothing but a negative nancy. I understand not liking someone, but the personal attacks all over this thread aren't necessary.

I just don't get how you can pride yourself so much on not being a fan of something you watch every week.


Do you even know what trolling is? Do you understand that the purpose of a forum is to generate discussion of people who enjoy the same hobby? Do you honestly think that everyone should come into the thread and say the same thing? What the fuck are you talking about trolling? How the fuck is it obvious? I gave a different opinion and I am trolling? The high school that let you graduate should be shut down.

 

[FromTheSouth]

Yeah, remember the time he broke his foot doing push ups? And the time he got injured while running with his ex-wife. That guy is holding the strap. Reasons like these are why I don't even count any championship in WWE as legit anymore. Let's face it, it's all pre-planned, they all know months, weeks, days in advanced that they are GOING to win the title. No maybe. No uncertainty. Not like UFC. Not like NBA. Not like college wrestling or anything. They don't KNOW they're going to win. They can hope to win. They can want to win, but there is that element of true surprise and that ability to call themselves a champion because they weren't booked to win it but because they did it all on their own.
I love wrestling. Have since I was 6 years old. But there are certain aspects that still piss me off. I virtually don't even count champions after they became world wrestling ENTERTAINMENT. Batista winning the belt means as much as Ben Stiller winning an award as a character in Tropic Thunder.
Worst part - they don't even care. Vince. WWE. Everyone who works there could give a shit less. Brock Lesnar said it best, they're all brainwashed. My Dad was moderating an AA meeting with Dustin Rhodes (Golddust) some years back and remarked on how he thought it all was real, how he was so caught up in it, and I think it's sad. They're unionless, bad actors that are well built doing fight scenes for live audiences.
It saddens me. I'm sorry my wrestling fan brothers, but that's what it has come down to for me. I watched one UFC match today and saw a guy who really beat the shit out of another guy and really won a belt then I watched just a little bit of the PPV tonight and I can say the only people who should be proud of a Goddamn thing are Jeff Hardy and Adam Copeland. They did a great job tonight and I've met them both and they are awesome dudes. I'm glad they're living out their dreams and I'm proud of them for that but I just can't stomach some of the shit that I've been seeing as of late in WWE.

Did you think wrestling was real up until tonight? It's been scripted since, well, day one. If you liked it them, I don't see how this new revelation changes everything.

Yes, they are bad actors, but so is Keanu Reeves. Yes, they are stuntmen doing a show for live audiences. I don't see what's so different form when you were a kid.

If you don't like it, then don't watch it. Leave the forums and go watch some UFC. I saw the Faber fight, and as much fun as it was to watch two guys roll around on the mat, I prefer some scripted action. MMA fights are either over too quickly or drag on with no action.

So whatever, later man, go be a grown up.

 

[sicmcnasti]

Did you think wrestling was real up until tonight? It's been scripted since, well, day one. If you liked it them, I don't see how this new revelation changes everything.

Yes, they are bad actors, but so is Keanu Reeves. Yes, they are stuntmen doing a show for live audiences. I don't see what's so different form when you were a kid.

If you don't like it, then don't watch it. Leave the forums and go watch some UFC. I saw the Faber fight, and as much fun as it was to watch two guys roll around on the mat, I prefer some scripted action. MMA fights are either over too quickly or drag on with no action.

So whatever, later man, go be a grown up.

It's not that I didn't know it was scripted. I've known it was scripted. Hell, I've wrestled before - albeit for a shitty indie promotion in the Southeast, but it just...it feels wrong almost, you know? Some guys I love. I love the personalities and characters and music and flair but just after seeing that one UFC fight and how this hometown hero guy won in Montreal and it just felt so legit and I remembered that from when I wrestled in 8th grade. I compare winning something in freestyle amateur wrestling to winning a 6 man tag match I did back in October and although I enjoyed the reaction I got and the stuff we did in the ring, it just doesn't feel the same, it doesn't feel as good because I wish that I really could have just..done it. I know that in real life the guys that we wrestled probably would have beaten the absolute shit out of me and thinking about that and Bobby Lashley losing the ECW title and then going into MMA where he beats guys silly in 25 seconds, it just doesn't feel right.
And don't get me wrong, wrestling itself is entertaining - I loved the Kofi vs MVP match. I still mark out when I'm able to catch wrestling but just something today kinda set things off for me.

Maybe there's deeper shit than I should be posting on a forum. I think I've become too much of a smark for my own good...I'm gonna go find the "It's Still Real To Me, Damnit!" Guy...

 

[Sparky]

I was thinking the same thing, they must want people to stop watching Raw

I'm no batista fan, but I would much prefer him as champion then Orton. Orton is good when he is chasing the belt but when he has it he does nothing as champion. Nothing.

They are going to make me just watch Smackdown and TNA.

yes, the writers of Raw are going to force you to watch another show.

TNA has been a lot more interesting since WWE has started doing dumb stuff since Wrestlemaina.

Or maybe TNA has just become more interesting. ever thought of that?

I may just skip Raw tomorrow,

Oh please don't.

it is starting to get annoying,

What is wrong with Raw?

now Batista.

Batista being champion is going to be interesting now. I can't stand him. I'm going to be watching his matches. Why? because i want him to lose. and it will happen when you least expect it.

WHY!!? His matches are so bad and short. Boring!

I would rather a short batista match, then a long Batista match. Did you honestly think batista would win?

Know what, I will watch tomorrow, maybe they pull a Kane and make Batista lose it in 24 hours.

So your going to watch raw now? Batista is injured so no doubt he will lose. Just sit back, and watch.

 

[x_JL_x]

Just wanted to throw in my two cents on one thing here. I too can't stand Batista (along with any of these other no talent hacks that somehow find themselves pushed to the moon). Without going into all the details and my quarrels with him even being in the main event, I do want to reply towards one argument. That would be: "But Batista is popular, the live crowd blows the roof of for him". That seems to be about the weakest, least thought out argument I've seen done over and over again. Maybe it's that people have no logic skills, or they have the memory of a goldfish. However, the reason people (live crowd) pops for Batista is because they've had him shoved down their throat (much like Cena but that's another story). Batista is a guy who was in the right place at the right time with the right friends. Nothing more, nothing less. It was NOT his own merits that got him where he was. And it's not anything he does that gets that crowd popping for him. The ONLY reason he gets a crowd popping is because back in the day he was scripted to go against the most hated guy in the WWE at that time, Triple H. Batista is nothing more than a product of a storyline. There's nothing he does that makes people pop for him, he just snuck his way into that crowd's favor by being the product of a storyline. Any other guy in the world could have been substituted into that position and pretty much wound up in the same place. He sucks in the ring, he sucks on the mic, he sucks at his job. Plain and simple, people pop for his character, and how he's been pushed down our throats. How he's been scripted. Nothing on his own merit. So let's give that argument a rest.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

It's obvious that you're trolling, since this thread is not exactly in favor of Batista winning or in praise of his spectacular performance abilities. Regardless, let's look at your points, since Batista is popular with the crowd, he deserves to be in his spot. Well, Jeff Hardy is even more popular and they seem to think he doesn't deserve to hold the title long, so the popularity contest is null and void. Batista doesn't do acrobatics, yet he manages to injure himself anyway while doing moves worthy of a baggage handler at an airport. His matches are for the most part predictable and boring, yet you praise this quality because "the crowd" loves him and he plays his role well, again, Jeff Hardy is exactly the same, yet I wager you'd shoot him down because he actually tries to entertain instead of doing a roid rage act each and every time, why ? Because you're more interested in being "different from the IWC" than you are in being objective. Sorry if I seem to be angry at your opinion, but when people defend the bland because the masses like it I get pissed.

I would have Batista as a champion rather than Hardy. I don't think that Vince trusts Hardy because of his suspensions and him possibly leaving the company. I don't see what the hate of Batista is about. You say that he is bland and all that stuff. He's fine the way he is in my opinion. He's not that bad on the mic and he does what he is supposed to do in the ring: throw guys around and he sells fairly well. It sucks that he is injured though because I could have seen a Batista/Cena title match down the road.

 

[Junior]

Well they said that he is having surgery tomorrow morning which means he will be out a while yet again so im pretty sure we will see him lose the title less then 24 hours yet again...sucks for him to straight title reigns that dont even make it a full day!...Oh and wtf is up with the wwe not giving jeff hardy a title reign make him lose it to cm punk im sorry i dont see punk as a world champion!

 

[KillBill]

Batista's retiring in a year or less. Ortons gonna be around another 10 years. He's losing to these guys now, because they are on their way out, so they get 1 more shot. Don't worry, Orton will become a long, dominent champion.

 

[Henry Hill]

It makes absolutely no sense to me that people actually believe that by putting the title on a wrestler, whether it be Orton, Batista, HHH, Cena, or anyone else, that there must always be some alterior motive than some sort of attempt to entertain. The worst part about Batista winning the title is that he is injured yet again and will miss yet another few months of ring time it seems. Having only returned the night after wrestlemania, which was a show he desperately wanted to be a part of, only to return and have it all happen again. I'm not a big fan of the guy, but certainly he can be entertaining, and i know he's a babyface but i still like having a guy to root against. hopefully his injury is not going to really keep him away, so we don't have another cheap one day title reign. what i don't get is: If you know Batista is injured and you know he's going to have to take some time off, but still want to take the title off orton, why have Punk cash in against Hardy, when he could do it against Batista and effectively solve that whole problem. at least then you could build up a feud for the title in the next month where the champion actually wrestles as opposed to a 24 hour swap between batista and orton.

 

[cod500]

It makes absolutely no sense to me that people actually believe that by putting the title on a wrestler, whether it be Orton, Batista, HHH, Cena, or anyone else, that there must always be some alterior motive than some sort of attempt to entertain. The worst part about Batista winning the title is that he is injured yet again and will miss yet another few months of ring time it seems. Having only returned the night after wrestlemania, which was a show he desperately wanted to be a part of, only to return and have it all happen again. I'm not a big fan of the guy, but certainly he can be entertaining, and i know he's a babyface but i still like having a guy to root against. hopefully his injury is not going to really keep him away, so we don't have another cheap one day title reign. what i don't get is: If you know Batista is injured and you know he's going to have to take some time off, but still want to take the title off orton, why have Punk cash in against Hardy, when he could do it against Batista and effectively solve that whole problem. at least then you could build up a feud for the title in the next month where the champion actually wrestles as opposed to a 24 hour swap between batista and orton.

Totally agree, except for the Batista coming back part. I hope he stays away for good. I actually turn the channel during his matches, I rather watch Kelly Kelly and Maria wrestle more than Batista.

 

[FromTheSouth]

You answered your own question. You're looking to generate heat, argue and start crap, in short, you're trolling. I'm not a big fan of Batista, but I sure as hell NOT going to post something negative about him on a thread that's in his favor, why would I ? People are entitled to like him as they are to dislike him, something you seem to not get. Your arguments would not change a thing, some people do not like what you like, face it, it's a part of life, and sometimes, people have to vent out their dislike, thus, threads like this one.

So, I'm not welcome to offer a dissenting opinion?

First of all, you don't set the rules. Secondly, if you did, they would obviously be stupid rules.

This is an internet forum. It exists for people to give opinions and discuss. If you want to read unchallenged opinions go read a blog.

And thanks for telling me that some people don't like what I like. See, I didn't know that. That means we have something in common, because not everyone hates Batista because you tell them to.

And stop giving orders like you matter in life. I will post wherever the fuck I please, and unlike your posts, people will read mine.

 

[MyselfTheThird]

I would have Batista as a champion rather than Hardy.

That's your opinion, and I respect that. However, you are out of your f***ing mind.

I don't think that Vince trusts Hardy because of his suspensions and him possibly leaving the company.

You are probably right. Hardy has a mind of his own, which angers Vince. Seriously, Hardy does seem like the kinda guy who does his own thing more so than WWE would normally allow, but his standing with the fans gives him room to do that kinda stuff. I just hope it doesn't affect his standing backstage.

I don't see what the hate of Batista is about. You say that he is bland and all that stuff. He's fine the way he is in my opinion. He's not that bad on the mic and he does what he is supposed to do in the ring: throw guys around and he sells fairly well.

It pretty easy to sell injuries when they're real.

It sucks that he is injured though because I could have seen a Batista/Cena title match down the road.

And for this I rejoice.

 

[Shocky]

There are wrestling gods, and they are appeased. Far be it for me to bask in the glory of a wrestler getting injure, but you know what, fuck it. Yes, it's dickish for me to say taht I'm happy, but I am. No, I'm not happy that the Man Dave Batista is suffering through yet another torn muscle, but I am happy that The Animal Batista is going to be out.

The guy bores me to tears, and I find him incredibly dull. I just find the high irony of less then two weeks after the WWE fires a guy that is supposedly injury prone, the guy that is really injury prone goes back on the shelf a whole month into his return.

This is the favortism of the WWE. Kennedy is fired, but Batista will always have his job based on his associations backstage. Good riddance, Hey, WWE, use your young roster and put the bet on someone fresh.

 

[FromTheSouth]

That's your opinion, and I respect that. However, you are out of your f***ing mind.

That was awfully disrespectful. Anyway, it is a valid opinion. batista looks like a World Champ. Jeff Hardy looks like an emo that tripped and fell into a gym. I am a fan of both. I would rather have Jeff as champion, but Batista is just so good at his role, that it doesn't bother me.

You are probably right. Hardy has a mind of his own, which angers Vince.

And it should. Vince signs the checks, so if he wants to run an autocracy that is his right. Maybe Jeff should get in line if he wants to keep getting paid. Vince has shown in the past that he will get rid of a big star if he doesn't get in line. Remember Kurt Angle?

Seriously, Hardy does seem like the kinda guy who does his own thing more so than WWE would normally allow, but his standing with the fans gives him room to do that kinda stuff.

And this is why Batista can continue to get injured and keep his job and Kennedy can't. The crowd yelled Kennedy along with him, and then didn't make another sound until he was gone.

I just hope it doesn't affect his standing backstage.

I doubt it. He's been on thin ice for over a year, and he probably still is. I'm sure creative loves him because they can talk him into doing anything, and I'm sure Vince likes the money he makes off of him, but wishes he would keep his mouth shut and the candy out of his nose.

It pretty easy to sell injuries when they're real.

But it's not easy to wrestle when they're real, and for his effort he should be commended. But that won't happen on this site, because Batista onlee noze 4 movez.

And for this I rejoice.

Rejoicing in someone elses misery? Schadenfreude. Hitler did this too.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

That's your opinion, and I respect that. However, you are out of your f***ing mind. You are probably right. Hardy has a mind of his own, which angers Vince. Seriously, Hardy does seem like the kinda guy who does his own thing more so than WWE would normally allow, but his standing with the fans gives him room to do that kinda stuff. I just hope it doesn't affect his standing backstage. It pretty easy to sell injuries when they're real. And for this I rejoice.

I love it how some people say they respect your opinion and then in the next sentence they basically disrespect it but I'm going to let that slide for once. Hardy has improved over the years I must admit but I've seen better Batista matches as champion then I've seen Hardy matches over the past four years.

You would be surprised about selling injuries when it happens in the ring. Triple H tore his quadricep a second time against Edge and Randy Orton and I wouldn't say he necessarily sold it. He attempted a Pedigree and it was a weak one at that. I gave Michaels credit for picking up that match because they seemed like they were lost once HHH was injured.

 

[MyselfTheThird]

Anyone who perserveres through an injury deserves respect, and Batista certainly deserves respect as he has done this many times. However, that's the point: he gets injured A LOT. And I never rejoice for misery, I rejoice because I won't be subjected to Cena/Batista for a second time, thus preventing misery (for me, at least). I never root for anyone to get hurt. I root for a good match (maybe also for a wrestler I like) and that no one gets hurt. The problem I have with Batista is that he rarely provides the former, and the latter is a coin flip.

By the way, I didn't mean any disrespect by saying you were out of your mind, I was saying it in a joking manner. Sorry if it actually offended you.

 

[cod500]

Well the way Legacy just put Batista out, still doesn't make up for having Orton drop the belt. It was nice that they did not make Batista look like super man in that one. Hart dynasty and Legacy should join. It kind of makes sense.

 

[Undertaker4ever88]

Dude, we ain't gonna hate you for your opinion. We hate for different reasons, like race or eye color.

Here's how I would handle this: Make it Evolution all over again. Orton decides to get revenge on Batista by envoking a rematch clause on Raw tomorrow night, but he makes it a Fatal 4-Way so that Rhodes and DiBiase can help him, like they did against HHH in the Royal Rumble. Do a segment where Orton talks about how everyone's got each other's back as they walk down to the ring, giving no indication as to what is about to happen (I just jumped 100 minutes or so ahead, of course you have matches and stuff beforehand). Match begins, and stuff happens, and as Randy is about to hit the RKO on Batista, but Flair rushes the ring and goes wild on Orton. However in the ring we see Dibiase covering Batista and 1, 2, 3! Dibiase is your champion! Orton watches in disbelief, sets up a beautiful feud with the only other member of Legacy with talent.

That is an awesome idea! I would love to see that! Either Rhodes or DiBiase! It would be an awesome story line! I think WWE should do something like that!