Attitude Era Stars Returning

jameswalsh292

Ice Tiger
On the main news page, there is a report of some attitude era stars returning between now and WM29.

The report suggests that Steve Austin may return to do a promo with Punk.

What I want to ask you is:

1) Do you think it is a good idea to bring back attitude era stars back for a short period?

2) Who would you like to see make a short return.

I think this could be a good idea. I dont think WWE should solely focus on bringing back mega stars like Austin. I would love to see the New Age Outlaws have a nice 6 month run in the WWE again. The Outlaws would help the Tag Division get back on its feet. It would also be nice to see too cool with rikishi again, the kids would love rikishi's stink facing Sandow.
 
I wouldn’t mind. It would be a change for a little shake up every now and then. Now I don’t know if they are just cutting promos of anything. I also wouldn’t mind seeing them wrestle if they are able to. I mean they just need to try something for a change. The only thing is they going to be able to do their original stuff or have to PG it. Even if it wasn’t as racy it would be better than nothing.
 
I would love to see the New Age Outlaws make a little return, they were entertaining and a credible tag team which would only help improve the already improving tag team division. Too Cool and Big Kish coming back would be great but Rikishi's gimmick has kind of been taken by Brodus at the moment.
 
I would love to see the New Age Outlaws make a little return, they were entertaining and a credible tag team which would only help improve the already improving tag team division. Too Cool and Big Kish coming back would be great but Rikishi's gimmick has kind of been taken by Brodus at the moment.

Imagine this. A Rikishi/Brodus tag team. :O Think of the horrible dancing opportunities.:lmao: But seeing the attitude era guy's back around would be cool as long as they don't go bringing ones back that can't hack it anymore promo or wrestling wise. They need to still be able to do one of the two and stick to it.
 
Of course I will probably mark out for a few of the moments if this does indeed happen, but overall it is still bad for business. It shows how weak they are right now. And this is just another one of WWE's infamous short term bandaid fixes. You can trot out the geezers until WM season, then what do you do come next April when you still haven't established any new stars? And don't tell me bringing the legends back is going to aid in the creation of those new stars, because even if we have a few legends who are willing to pass the torch and take a loss to a younger guy, that still doesn't compensate for the lack of having charisma and a good persona. Such as the new rumor to have Punk end the streak. Obviously it would be a big deal, but overall I still don't see it turning Punk into anything more than he already is. We've all seen how he can beat people and still not prove anything anyway. Bring back some Attitude guys and give some wins to Ziggler, Bryan, etc etc, it still isn't going to "make" any superstars just by beating middle aged men who may or may not "still have it".

Plus it's not like WWE hasn't already gone to this well too often. They used old stars for Old School Raw, they trotted someone out each and every week leading up to Raw 1000, and now they're going to do it again. We'll have ANOTHER D-X reunion. Remind me to watch something else that night. Did business improve just because we saw DDP, Vader, Foley, Piper, and a few other guys over the last few months? No. Was business booming this year just because of Rock Cena at WM? No. It was successful while the Rock was there, and then it was over. And then we went straight to our next dose of bringing back an old star because Brock came back right after that. This is like a bad addiction. The high never lasts. The guys come back, spike ratings a little bit, but eventually they have to leave again, and we're back to episodes hardly worthy of the 2.5 ratings they get.

At this rate, this same stable of people will continue to get dragged down the aisle for the next 30 years, oxygen tanks and all, trying to revive ratings. It wasn't just the stars who made the attitude era, it was just the times in general that made it successful. Bringing back a bunch of guys into this PG environment just doesn't do anything. The product is bad. The writing is bad. Yes it may bump ratings when they do their tacky on-purpose Twitter leaks that a certain star is backstage before Raw. People will tune in. Ratings will get a little bump. It still doesn't solve the problem.

Asking whether or not this will "be cool" or whether it will "fix the problem" are two different questions. Yes it will be cool, but only to the people who have been alive long enough to know who these people are. Which goes to show that WWE seems to be suffering a huge identity crisis overall. PG is here to try to create new lifelong WWE fans. So they openly admit they currently aren't trying to create television programming for the older demographics. But now when your ratings suck, you want to bring back guys that only the 25 and older crowd will remember. But you're still not aiming your show at those people. So they'll tune in to see some old star return, and then realize they're watching a show for 9 year olds. WWE needs to choose between past and present, and between kids or older crowd. You can't do it all. If you claim to be marketing to the younger crowd, most of them don't care who is going to return. Do younger fans really make a big effort to go back and watch wrestling from years ago? I know I started watching during the Attitude years and I can't say I ever made a huge effort to go back and figure out what exactly Snuka and Piper and other guys did years ago, aside from the 15 second clips that showed the biggest moments of their career. I know Snuka jumped off a cage. I know Piper hit him with a coconut. I was not enough of a fan during their era to really care when they show up on Raw these days. So I can't imagine the targeted younger audience is really going to care about these returns.
 
I for one think it's a great idea. Most of the attitude era stars aren't old yet so to speak it's only been 15 years. I think we will see the Outlaws return for a while and that would be real entertaining. I can see Rikishi and Too Cool returning for a bit. Val Venis would be entertaining and most definitely bring back Goldust whom had no business being released. Other attitude era possibilities would be Gangrel, Godfather, Sable, Viscera, Shane McMahon, and Headbangers.

It was a great period for WWE History and would be very interesting.
 
Will this hurt ? Probably not. Will it be abig ratings boast ? No. Bringing back guys who cant actally get in the ring and wrestle has minimal impact, a short term shot in the arm for their initial return and little else. Ive been saying thi about Hogan & Flair for years, to an entire generation of wrestling fans these guys define pro wrestling, and they were instrumental in two decades of significant success (plus Flair played a major role, albeit on a part time basis, in WWE's sucess during the ast decade). However, neither one of them can climb in the ring anymore and deliver anything close to a good match, watching them wrestle a non wrestler like McMahon or in some gimmick mach designed to hide their limitation will draw minimal interest from fans, certainly no big ratings boast. That doesnt mean that as an on air figure for an extended time they couldnt help the product and draw some fans back, they could, but if you think these guys are going to sell out arenas and drive major spikes in TV ratings and PPV buys you're fooling yourself.

Austin's short term returns in recent years have draw little interets from casual fans. Certainly evryone would agree that next to Hogan & Flair it's hard to find a ain event star that in when in the ring could generate interest frm fans like Austin. However, few people are interested in his returns now because they see no payoff, he isnt wrestling.

Im not even sure how many 90s guys WWE has left tp bring in and for what ? We already had a parade of WWE & WCW guys from the 90s heading into RAW's big anniversary show a few months back, its not like the idea of having a one shot guest apparance from these guys is a new or novel idea...it isnt. How many of them could legit get in the ring for a program with a current star ?? More important, with guys like Hart & Austin to injured, HBK injured, Flair & Hogan and too old, Piper too old, Savage gone, Nash too injured, Hall racked with drug problems, DDP unable to wrestle a full match, etc, who is left that has major name value from that era that I might actually want to watch again ?? Im not turning on my TV to see Rikishi, etc or other mid carders from a previous era. HHH & Taker could be used more but they are already a part of the show.

No one knows for sure who they plan to use or how, but I dont expect it to hve major, long term impact for the positive. Im not even sure I trust WWE right now to book these guys properly to improve the product and elevate some current guys if they do bring them back.
 
1. It's an OK idea i guess but cuz they're PG, it won't be as entertaining as it should be. Because of the current IWC guys complaining of wanting the attitude era and calling the current era BS, they're probably turning this into a mini storyline and have the legends v the current guys. It's also to promote WWE 13.

2. I want to see Steve Austin considering he wasn't at 1000th episode. He should have a confrontation and maybe a match with Punk but Punk should go back to being Voice of the voiceless and austin should be in shape to make the hype and match great.
 
This is only a good idea IF it is to put over the current wrestlers. WWE is never going to progress if they keep relying on bringing back old stars to spike ratings, although its debatable as to whether they would actually increase ratings at all. I have no problem with Austin coming back, if he was to give some rub to CM Punk. However, i would much rather see people like Ziggler and Barratt have a feud with a star like Austin or Foley to really push them to the next level, as they are the future of the business right now.
 
If done right it could definitely help in areas. Those asking for an Austin match have to remember Austin can't wrestle which is why he wasn't at Raw 1000 he has had surgery so that's out of the question. Sorry because it would be great to see him face Punk.
 
If this was a few years ago I wouldn't mind, but now other show TNA or WWE puts on has some dust cloud of a human being there to make the show "nostalgic". Puh-lease, it would be nostalgic if they weren't broken down like a cheap car. It is an easy way to get viewers, but I'm tired of it. If a retro wrestler can come back and actually put on a good show I could deal, but each one gets crappier and crappier. It takes TV time from young stars just so an old hack can get their greasy palms on cash. If you have good talent, then why the hell do you have to show off an out of shape barely coherent alumni. What's wrong with these people?
 
It's smart for business to do one-off shows. Like WrestleMania 28. People will buy the PPV to see The Rock or Stone Cold.

Just look at the buys for WM28. Bigger than anything in the attitude era. But in the attitude era... WM drew 800-900K buys, but the other 11 PPVs a year drew 400-500K buys. In 2012... WM draws 1.2M buys, but most of the shows draw 1.5-3.5K buys. It's all short-term success.

In reality, if The Rock came back full-time, he wouldn't make a long-term impact on the ratings either. The business is in a funk. The Rock or Austin are not saviours. They were great performers in a hot period for the business. In the short-term... a few shows... a few PPV's... yes, absolutely they will draw an audience. But long-term that incremental audience isn't interested in the product overall unless it drastically changes. And one or two guys aren't enough to make that shift.

In the meantime though, the problem is that they're unwilling to put new guys over the Attitude era guys. Cena is an exception... he will probably "get his win back" against The Rock.

But the reality is, the WWE has only two full-time stars at the moment. Cena and Punk. You could put Orton in here, but not lately.

If they want to truly establish new stars... put guys like CM Punk, Ryback Sheamus, Ziggler, Daniel Bryan over guys like Triple H, Undertaker, Kane, The Rock, Mick Foley, Steve Austin, Lesnar. Go all in with your new talent. It's the only way new guys will be seen as legit champions. And the old guys won't be hurt in the slightest.
 
If they bring back the correct superstars in a meaningful way, I'd be all for it. Seeing guys like Austin, Michaels, Bret Hart, or The Rock back on RAW would be great to supplement a much better show. Let's face it, RAW has massively sucked ass since they extended to 3-hours and it's sad to watch. If these older guys can come in and somehow affect the show for the better while helping these younger guys become stars, it's a win-win situation.
 
id like to see a few make a return but as its been said i dont think it will do much good for the wwe tho i think theres two problems wwe dont know what to do with there guys anymore and the child freindly thing as it restricts what they could use them for my memory may be hazy but during the attitude era it seemed everyone even down to lowly jobbers had some sort of storyline happening even if it was ridulous things like mark henry and mae young or kaientai and val venis it all added to the entertainment value i just think wwe is relying to much on the older guys because they cant make there current roster entertaining they just throw a title on them and expect them to be stars it doesnt work they need to be in more memorable storylines first instead of what seems like random fueds all the time
 
i just think wwe is relying to much on the older guys because they cant make there current roster entertaining they just throw a title on them and expect them to be stars it doesnt work they need to be in more memorable storylines first instead of what seems like random fueds all the time

You really hit the nail on the head dude. What is completely lacking from the product these days is character development. Minus a storyline or two, we simply do not have any reason to care about any of these guys and where they are going. Even when something groundbreaking (i.e. nexus invasion, punk's worked shoot) happens, it just fizzles out. Whether it is a matter of the writers not having the creativity to create something with longevity or a matter of the roster not having the personality to keep us interested is up for debate. From the perspective of a dude who has been stuck on this wrestling nonsense for going on 30 years, I feel like it is equal parts the former and the latter.
That being said, I am extremely optimistic in regards to Ryback being shot up into the main event picture. Even if his character is derivative of Goldberg like all the "smarks" are bitching about, who the hell cares? I have a higher opinion of a guy whose shtick is inspired by a star who revolutionized the industry than I do of a whole bunch of guys who have the versatility and charisma of Greg Gagne. It is that larger than life presence that the company is missing right now and I honestly believe that Ryback could be the first guy in the PG era to be just that. And who knows? Maybe when Linda gets trounced in November and gives up her inane pursuit of political office once and for all, they could start pushing some boundaries and crossing some lines again. Maybe.
 
I think it is an absolutely fantastic idea to bring back Attitude Era stars, but only a select group. I'm talking big names like the obvious ones (Rock, Austin, Foley, etc.) and other strong, well-established stars (like the New Age Outlaws for instance). And speaking of the N.A.O., I would love to see them most! Road Dogg looked great in his Royal Rumble appearance earlier this year and Billy Gunn looked to be in great physical shape in DX's mini-reunion on RAW's 1000th episode. Plus, with the reboot of sorts with the tag team division, it would be great to see one of the greatest teams of all-time return for at least a short period of time. Rock and Austin are probably the most common of answers but I feel like they're almost gimme's; Rock has sporadically been making more and more appearances and he's even booked for CM Punk. So yeah, seeing the Outlaws would be awesome and I say even give them one last title reign!
 
I think what the TAG division need is " TAG Team finishers" now a day it was so predictable legal man get take out everybody hit their own signature move then tag it boring if they want to make a 1 man finisher we have that alot ! We need tag team movie like what the legion of doom use , the Dudley , the hardy's used (im a fan of the Dudley 2D finisher it) it give a meaning a sense of tag team
 
-1) Do you think it is a good idea to bring back attitude era stars back for a short period?

I think it can be good in the short term if the guys are brought back to put over today's stars. Jericho came back and put over everyone, and I think that is what is good for business. If they come back in a self serving manner then no I don't think it is good. It might get a small ratings pop, but if they come back and win all the time I think it hurts the current product when said star leaves again.

2) Who would you like to see make a short return.

I thought it would be really cool to see The New Age Outlaws to come back and compete in the revamped tag division. They both looked to be in great shape, and some of today's teams could really get a rub by beating them.
 
They should have Attitude Era wrestlers return to promote the new Attitude Era DVD. They don't even really have to wrestle. Just being in a skit would be fine. I'd love to see some people I haven't seen in a while return even if it's for one night. I'd love to see Val Venis, The Godfather, Hardcore Holly, Shane McMahon and the Mean Street Posse. It's always nice seeing Lita and Trish Stratus return.
 
Should of had Attitude Era superstars against PG era superstars at Survivor Series tbfh. It would of been better then the Zzzzz I get from hearing about this Team Foley v.s Team Ziggler crap
 

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