Angle Unmasks the Aces & Eights VP; Revealed to be D'Lo Brown

[gimz]

every1 is saying its some one from the current roster but I thinking its not if u look at the size and the noice's he makes when he gets hit,to me that only leaves 1 of 2 ppl and ...my first pick is scott steiner y?? he hates TNA and toke them to court then it was settled so maybe part of the settlement is that he wanted to be leader of the A & 8 and kurt and scott have history as well main event mafia.and my 2nd guess is jeff Jarrett he hasn't been around in a long time and him and kurt buried the hatchet so to speak b4 he left and jeff did say one day he will get his revenge on Dixie and TNA so maybe its him...As for morgan NO to short to be him, park/Abyss NO to short to be him, Styles not fat enough lol and joe no way he hasn't been a good guy for that long and the crowd loves him the way he is atm....this is just wat I think

 

[Bischoff's Knob Slobberer]

It can't be D'Lo Brown, dudes hoodie came up from the back. They clearly showed his lower back/arse crack area as "white"/lightskinned. Not D'Lo for sure.

 

[IHW]

Could be Joe. Could be Morgan. Could be Ray. Probably D-Lo.

I want it to be big, and not just the guy, but the reveal. I want to be intrigued again. I don't think we are going to find out this week like some think. I expect Angle to not be on the show, and then the mystery standing until Lockdown. Its a cool storyline, having some one know the VP, but that guy not being around.

TNA has be able to make the Aces and Eights story stretch across many many month. It may have not always been the best, but at least it gives us something to think about.

 

[dwith]

In my opinion it's going to be ABYSS, not Joesph Parks. It looked like his body style.
They will probably play out that KURT ANGLE with think it's Joesph Parks, but in reality it is his split personality ABYSS. to me it makes some sense since we haven't seen ABYSS really since this whole aces & eights joined. then we have Joesph show up wanting to fight evil. His split personality is one of good and the other evil.

Just my opinion

 

[Kliq69]

Size really isn't a factor. They've used fill-ins for the group before.

Now if we look at it logically (which considering it's TNA is probably not the best idea I admit), Angle's reaction is the biggest clue. How could you. Not "it's you" which it would have been for a debuting star ie Batista or the like. So we know it's a known member of the tna roster unlike gallows was. We can also eliminate most of the newer and less known guys based on his tone as his question was delivered. It was spoken as if the other guy was an equal. Using those factors, there are three types of guys who it could be.

1) One of Angle's allies. His last tag partner was AJ. He's teamed with Sting, And I think Joe at one point. Other than that, not many top level stars have allied with angle. Out of this group, AJ makes the most sense except the fact he's not the best heel as not only is he limited on the stick but also gets almost nostalgia like pops from the tna loyalists

2)One of the people fighting A8. The line sounds like a classic heel turn line. Eric Young maybe? Sting? Hogan? Nick Hogan? (joking, but just barely)

3)A Major (TNA) Star. By this I mean someone not involved in the A8 angle or main event scene at the moment. Someone who is a major name, a face at the moment (again the reaction), and someone who isn't currently doing anything for the most part... The one name that stuck in my head outside of AJ, Eric, Bully, Hogan, etc is RVD. He just dropped the belt that he was far to good to hold, lost it relatively cleaning, has nothing on the horizon, and with the makeup of the group fits in really well. He's a big enough name that his involvement would garner that type of response from Angle and one of the few big names they have on their roster not currently doing anything.

My list of suspects in order of who I think it most likely is:

1) RVD: Again, nothing more than a hunch but I can't think of an argument against it.

2) AJ: Motorcycle, Angle's tag partner not long ago, big enough name, the attitude change, etc.

3) Joe: This doesn't make sense to me, but I digress. Joe doesn't look like a biker, doesn't play well with others, not really a group guy to me. I could see TNA going this direction just to give him something to do.

4) Jeff Jarrett: Has had problems with Angle in the past, him sabotaging TNA after founding it could result in a "how could you". TNA has been bound and determined to use him in a main role, been off tv a while, Just seems like something they would do.

5) Eric Young: Guy randomly comes back before a big ppv tag match, hand picked by the team leader, returns without the comedy angle, has no drawing power so it makes perfect sense from a TNA standpoint to make him a focal point of the storyline.

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

I've always thought it sounded like Abyss/Joseph Park, and it certainly has his sort of frame. I think it will mostly likely turn out to be him which would be a reasonable way to finish unmasking this group. I'm almost convinced that it's Park, but I'm not sure whether it'll be Abyss or if it'll be Joseph Park. I think they could go an interesting way here if they have it be Abyss and they have Joseph Park come out with this big crisis of conscience and totally snap. A real schizophrenic type of character would be a first. That's where I put my vote.

 

[Papa Pillman]

In my opinion it's going to be ABYSS, not Joesph Parks. It looked like his body style.
They will probably play out that KURT ANGLE with think it's Joesph Parks, but in reality it is his split personality ABYSS. to me it makes some sense since we haven't seen ABYSS really since this whole aces & eights joined. then we have Joesph show up wanting to fight evil. His split personality is one of good and the other evil.

Just my opinion

From what we saw, I'm also leaning toward this. It definitely sounded like Chris Park during the fight, and the guy definitely had the right body proportions, and Angle's reaction would also fit.

I'm guessing it is as you stated. Assuming that he wouldn't have the "Abyss" mask on under his A&8s get-up, aside from possibly the missing teeth, how would Angle ever differentiate Park and Abyss? He knows Joseph's face, so Angle seeing it as Joseph would be the obvious conclusion to jump to. While in reality it could be that "Abyss" is the leader of A&8s while Joseph is indeed a mild-manored "green hornet" wrestler, yet both are different personalities of Chris Park who are completely unaware of each others actions.

Angle could accuse Joseph, who would truthfully have no idea what Angle was talking about, while in actuality being guilty without even knowing it.

 

[roipdh123]

It think there are couple of options some of them are Samoa Joe & Matt Morgan & Abyss and other big names with a body loke the masked man but my thought is it will be Bully Ray.
Think about it Bully Ray will become the world champion at Lockdown with the help of Aces & Eights and then they will have the world champion as The Leader & Devon as T.V. champion and they could easily gave the team of Garreth Bischoff and Wes Brisco the tag titles and make Aces & Eights even more dominate then they are now.Also Kenny King won the X division title and I wont be surprised that he will be a part of Aces & Eights in a short time.Then there the titles that will left will be the Knockouts titles which are not important for my point that Aces & Eights will hold all the Men's Championships at TNA.
But lets get back to the start.Why should it Bully Ray.First of all it wont be Morgan because he is not that Dominate right now so they wont give him that.It could not be Samoa Joe because he's on team TNA at Lockdown and if kurt knows that he's a part of Aces & Eights he will tell to sting and he will not be a part of the Lockdown team.So I left with Abyss and Bully Ray and I think it will be Bully because he is worse as a face and personnaly I would like to see him turn heel quick.Other reason it's because there will be a team 3D reunion there and I really willing to see it.The reason for that it isn't Abyss is because 2 things:TNA need him to stay a face right at the moment & his double creactor with Joseph Park is a great thing and a lot of the fans like it.Last 2 things he won't be the leader because a long time ago in the story of the Aces & Eights back in September Joseph Park was Hit by a sledghammer by Aces & Eights and I don't belive they could make abyss that kind of a heel that will heat his brother with a sledghammer.Second they will need to get the creactor of Joseph Park before they make Abyss return full time as a heel even it's kind of funny to see a person with two creactors that one is a face and the second is a heel.

For the end:Bully Ray will be the leader if the Aces & Eights.

 

[NightwingZen]

I think it's Joseph Park/Abyss because if you look at it this way, Joseph Park's character is looked at as not the most popular guy or best wrestler on the IW roster. Plus, he's the only captive A/8's has had for a long period of time. So those 2 reasons clearly lead to a turn for Park. TNA has been gung ho in getting Parks over as a top heavyweight from the start, and it looks like they're still trying. My 2nd guess (if it's not Park) is James Storm, it fits his character.

 

[MWRedskins]

first i got to say this......1) if the guy unmaked IS the VP of Aces and Eights, then the VP being Bully Ray makes NO sense as he was in the ring when Angle jumped the group and unless they show that the time they recorded that was earlier, it makes no sense for Bully to be in two places at once..

now if he's not the VP, then it's D-Lo. if it IS the VP, i can only guess and i will guess Abyss, BUT i hope i'm badly wrong and if it is the VP i hope it's either 1) AJ Styes or 2) Rob Van Dam. those two make perfect sense as they either want the world title or have some payback on Hulk and/or Hardy. RVD would be great for that group actually. he can say that Hulk cost him HIS first world title and Hardy was the guy he put it on, now will they go that route no, they likely go the way of either Park/Abyss, D-Lo or Bully (which wont make sense). now if the guy isnt the VP, then it's likely D-Lo as he's not a big name. the VP needs to be a bigger name reveal.

 

[4uhaters97]

Im going to think outside the box on this one and go with King Mo. What better than a "King" for a higher power.

 

[SaveUsCMPunk]

I like the idea mentioned earlier of it being RVD. RVD hasn't been a heel since when? When he was in The Alliance? (Even though he was getting lots of cheers then.) Hopefully, it isn't Hogan, Jeff Jarrett or Eric Bischoff as none of those would make any sense given Angle's reaction and considering everything that's transpired between Hogan and Aces N' Eights.

 

[Slack]

I don't know if it will be D'Lo. If it is they might as well kill the angle now. Having D'Lo be the VP is more pointless than Taz being revealed as a member, but at least Taz would offer them a voice on commentary.

Another reason I don't believe it is AJ Styles, is because he was seen leaving on a motorcyle. Sounds like a wrestling misdirection to me.

I still say Joseph Park is the best fit. But I'm not going to go with the whole split personality thing of Joseph Park and Abyss. I think it will be revealed tha Joseph Park was the brainchild of whoever the overall leader of the group is and Abyss to earn the trust of Hulk Hogan and TNA.

 

[hatehabsforever]

I'll be shocked if the VP is anyone other than Bully Ray. And I'll be equally shocked if the top guy isn't Jeff Jarrett.

I see a classic TNA swerve, building up Bully Ray as a face over the last few months, only to have the shocking swerve back into a heel. I can't decide if Brooke will be in cahoots with him, as part of the group as well, or if she too was duped by Bully. I'm leaning toward the former.

And Jeff Jarrett is the most logical choice for the mastermind of it all. Revenge against the company which he founded and which cast him aside, trying to destroy it from within.

If it turns out to be Abyss, I'm going to laugh my ass off. That would rival the "they" storyline for the most colossal disappointment.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Where was Pritchard during all this? He is my bet. He fits the rotund shape of the chubster with the VP patch. He also has been around for the length of time Aces and Eights has been around.

Regardless, this is all bullshit because logic tells Angle would have drunkenly Tweeted the answer by now.

 

[Jacjac]

My original thought was that it was Samoa Joe but I wouldn't be surprised if it was Bully Bubba Ray Dudley. The guy I saw was quite top heavy and tall. I don't think Joe is that tall and it would be right in line with his character for it to be Bully. I also have the feeling Hulk is up to no good somehow or maybe he was beat up by Aces at just the right time. Brook is also not really squeaky clean. Obviously, I don't trust any of them.

And you know Angle is as good as dead for a few weeks until TNA is ready for the big reveal.

 

[MisterRob]

I don't know why everyone's making silly suggestions about who the mystery man is. It's clearly Abyss. The person in the segment that Angle unmasked was clearly Abyss, and he'll obviously be revealed as the next member of Aces & Eights. Abyss has disappeared for a long time, the silly Joseph Park thing is meaningless, so there's no doubt in my mind that it's going to be Abyss. Unless TNA does something hilariously ridiculous like make it someone who isn't even in TNA right now and that makes no sense beyond just some "surprise" reveal.

I didn't see where they claimed the guy Angle unmasked was the Leader of Aces & Eights, though. All I heard Angle ask was who the guy was.

The only other two options are these: It could possibly be would be D'Lo Brown, since D'Lo CLEARLY has been the masked man in many of the segments speaking for the group. But, just because D'Lo Brown was acting in that role, physically, doesn't mean he's going to be in the storyline. His reveal would have absoluely zero Impact and do absolutely nothing for this angle. It would be as laughable as the rest of the reveals like Devon, Doc, Wes Brisco and Garrett Bischoff, which is why I can't see them revealing D'Lo Brown of all people as the next Aces & Eights guy. Let alone someone more important within the stable.

It could also be Samoa Joe, if TNA is being pretty silly and just trying to throw a shocking curve ball (that also doesnt make much sense). But does anyone remember that ill-fated angle where Joe got jumped and kidnapped a very long time ago, which was suddenly just dropped out of the blue and never spoken of again? They could go back to that, pretend like they planned for this all along, and claim that was Aces & Eights and they recruited Samoa Joe back then. The masked guy in the segment clearly isn't Samoa Joe, but that doesnt mean they can't claim it was and reveal Joe as the next member of the group. This option makes the least sense, and I really don't see it happening.


It's Abyss.

 

[SpecialFNK]

you can eliminate people.
it's not Bully. he was in the ring, just finished a match.
it's not Samoa Joe, James Storm, Magnus, Eric Young, or Sting. they are already on team TNA. if Angle finds out it's one of them, he could just tell Sting, and they would be off team TNA. if it was to be one of them, just have that person turn on team TNA at Lockdown.

unless maybe Aces/Eights get the upper hand on Angle and kidnap him/take him hostage. then Angle can't talk.

 

[HBsam31]

It just seems to me that it would be Abyss. He has been gone for a long time, and I have to go with the majority here. I don't think it would be anyone on Team TNA, and Bully was in the ring at the time. I thought for sure it would be Bully, but unless they say the segment was taped he can't be in two places at one. I like the schizophrenic idea with Abyss and Joe Parks that other in this thread have mentioned. I honestly have no real clue who it is, but i will guess Abyss.

 

[gank]

Abyss could fit , but i still want to see Bully Ray as the VP. It makes a lot of sense because of the match for the Heavyweight Title , cause Jeff is the good guy and Bully should be the bad guy. This face and good guy look doesn't fit Bubba.

 

[info62]

First person that came to my mind, just based off of Angle's reaction, was Samoa Joe. I don't think being on team TNA automatically disqualifies him either. They'll just have team TNA down one man for the match. It's awkward that they would have Angle find out before the PPV, pretty much for the quoted reason:

it's not Samoa Joe, James Storm, Magnus, Eric Young, or Sting. they are already on team TNA. if Angle finds out it's one of them, he could just tell Sting, and they would be off team TNA. if it was to be one of them, just have that person turn on team TNA at Lockdown.

Which is a good point, and makes sense. But I still think it's Joe and that logic can and will be thrown out the window to make it Joe.

If it isn't Joe, then the Abyss guesses seem reasonable too. Outside of them, I'm not sure who TNA would pick as the guy.

 

[joesgoingtoeatu]

I also say Abyss and i think they will play off the Joseph Park/Abyss angle revealing that Park was on the inside the whole time and Abyss new exactly what he was doing.

Can't see it being anyone else, i still think Bully Ray could be the president with Brooke defecting as well outside of this.

Anyone looking for a big reveal, the only other option is A.J, that could have caused Kurt to have that reaction and maybe TNA just didn't care that the guy was too big to play A.J

 

[ABMorales787]

Eric Bischoff or Jeff Jarrett still sound like the most likely choices. Eric was written out almost a year ago and the guy is a noted motorcycle enthusiast. Not to mention he's an expert with stables. On the other hand, it could be Jeff Jarrett with Kurt reacting out of shock at how low he's stooped.

People point to Bully Ray to make sense of the heel turn, but chances are he'll just join them rather than be revealed as their mastermind. The idea of Ace's And Eights turning out to be Immortal trying to stir up trouble again and get revenge on Hogan seems to be the most likely scenario.

 

[MINISTRYrising]

Out of all the names mentioned, I would have to say that Abyss/Joseph parks would have to be my top choice, Mainly because it would allow James Mitchell to be the leader of the group.

D-Lo in my opinion would be a very bad choice. The VP needs to be somebody who can compete for the TNA title and there is no way you will ever get that with D-Lo.

Joe and Bully would both be good choices. Both men have the right sort of size to play the part, but with Bully being in the ring when kurt unmasked the VP and joe warning Kurt about Wes and Garrett, neither man would make much sence to me.

The only other person that i can think of (and this is a long shot) is Scott steiner. Sure he is not the perfect match body size, But like IDR said. it does not have a perfect match just close enough for people to believe it when the time comes and for all those people who think its impossible for it to be him because of all the bad blood bettween him and Hogan, just remember that TNA has perfected using twitter to pull the wool over are eyes before and it would not surprise me if this was the case here.

 

[Ayden C.]

Body size is quite frankly irrelevant being that like it was said earlier; could be altered without much trouble. Obviously it is someone Angle has known well or had history with which cuts things down even more. Abyss or Joseph Parks would make sense but I just can't him getting such a reaction out of Angle. Samoa Joe fits all the criteria and yet part of me wonders if they would make it that obvious. He is a big dude and has got the look down pat but it isn't like Aces & Eights have ever spared him like they have Bully Ray. Though you also have to factor in the mastermind quality which I can't see Joe or Ray having. Eric Bischoff or Jeff Jarrett would make the most sense. Either would be huge returns with Bischoff having been exiled close to a year before and Jarrett being forced to leave the company after being beat by the same man who unmasked him. There are a ton of different opportunities and I'm just hoping they don't screw this one up.