After the ClusterF**k of WM27 can WM28 be any better?

[quink987]

ok guys we all watched WM27 and for me it was 3 stars because the the PPV just felt like a clusterfuck having the World title on first, Having Snooki and Cole/Lawler on after Orton/Punk was a real slap in the face to Orton and Punk who have been the main stroyline on Raw. then the thing that pissed me off the most is the Undertaker vs HHH match dont get me wrong it was a really good match which I enjoyed watching but the finish was a joke it made the Deadman look really weak and HHH look like this superman Why couldnt HHH just get Pinned like everyone else over the years why make out that Undertaker can only beat him by doing that chokehold then to have HHH walk out like the Undertaker was lucky but to have the Deadman being carried out was a real shame. it made me feel like Undertaker cant role with the big boys anymore.

so anyway by what we've seen last night and with the talent returning or coming through the ranks what do you expect will be on the card at WM28?

well since it's in Miami the headline of the card will be

The Rock vs John Cena
Chris Jericho vs Undertaker
Randy Orton vs Alberto Del Rio: WWE title
CM Punk vs Stone Cold (I wish)

Thats all i can really think of but what do you think about WM 27?
and What Matches do you think will take place WM 28?

 

[Sheamus' Suntan]

Right now its honestly way too early to say what will happen in a WHOLE years time. We have the draft coming up and the MITB's which WILL push at least 1 star into contention possibly in time for wrestlemania, ALA Miz.

I think the course of the next year for WWE is important. They NEED to legitimize their undercard and get the guys who are currently curtain jerking Mania up into the main event.

I think its time to STOP relying on the big names every goddamn big PPV that comes along and accept it; Wrestlemania, Royal rumble, Survivor and Summerslam NEED to be used for building the newer guys up.

Now that the youth movement has happened, everyone is complaining and your card above shows...that tbh you don't believe in the current breed of stars. Of the above, ONE is in the youth movement and that ADR.

Honestly speaking, if WWE legitimize their NEW stars up to main eventing mania...we can have an absolutely fantastic card without relying on the older names.

I do think a Y2J return is imminent but I DONT think we'll have The Rock in a years time or Stone Cold again.

Perhaps The Miz vs a face Chris Jericho as we all know Jericho will return face.

Undertaker vs Cena seems a shoe-in for what could well be Taker's last match.

Orton vs. Edge - I think these two could do fantastically. Move Orton over to SD during the draft and have them "Team up" only for one to turn on the other. Re-unite Rated RKO then bam.

Sin Cara vs. Rey Rey (assuming Rey is still around by WM, I think the smarter booking would be to introduce Sin Cara to Rey in the build to WM and keep them off the same show until then.)

Alberto Del Rio vs. John Morrison - something tells me it WILL be both the years of Del Rio and Morrison and I think Morrison would need to go over to Smackdown to capitalize on any possibly push now. Get these guys together in a programme near the end of the year, could be a fantastic match.

Big Spot match - something to capture people in. Without it, Mania felt kinda lacking.


There's a lot of potential, WWE just has to spend this year really building its midcard up into high card stars.

 

[rge2010]

Of course it can better. WWE are definately capable of better but in my opinion they need to start planning it now. WM27 was rushed, it was also planned very badly. WWE panicked and it seemed like a panicked show...hence Bryan/Sheamus being pulled and all the short matches.

I think we are going to see Rock/Cena at Summerslam. Thats great, I look forward but I do hope they have a rematch at next years WM28. It is in Miami, makes perfect sense for Rock to main event.

Orton vs Edge and Sin Cara vs Rey Mysterio sounds good. Triple H vs Del Rio would be interesting. Too early to predict for Sheamus, Morrison, Barrett, need to look at their developments. Even someone like Mason Ryan could be a major player by then. As far as the streak goes, well Jericho hasnt had a go at it yet.

If WWE could revamp the Tag Division and make it mean something, you can have some of your strong midcarders on the card. Christ, get Sheamus over to SD and team with McIntyre, make them into a strong tag team.

 

[Window Licker 101]

I think you are jumping the gun a bit quick. Lets see what happens over the next few weeks then we can really reflect on the impact made by Wrestlemania. I thought this mania was better than last years as a whole. Of course Taker/HBK was better than Taker/HHH but the rest of WM 26 for me lacklustre whilst this year I enjoyed it more.

 

[R.K.O]

I really doubt WM28 can be any better. They pulled out all stops for WM27 including bringing back The Rock, Stone Cold, Trish Stratus and bringing in Snooki but the whole WM was still a huge disappointment. It's hard to imagine what WM28 will be like without these past stars and with the possibility of Rey, Edge and other veterans hanging up their boots. The current roster from what I've seen in WM27 just simply couldn't cut it unless huge changes or improvements are made between now and WM28.

The feuds that could possibly save WM28 are of course Sting vs Taker, which is very unlikely, followed by Cena vs Rock and maybe Cena vs Taker.

 

[Daniel.Wood]

R.K.O yes they pulled out all of the stops but booking was terrible, writing was terrible, some of the actual wrestling performers was terrible (Cena not really trying..)

They could have the roster of FCW and it would make Mania awesome if they booked it right. There was so much potential and it ended up being worse than a Raw episode.

Not because of the stars.

 

[VABurghman]

It might be a bit early to predict matches with so many PPV's in between to create possibilities. I just hope WWE goes back to the old days of wrestling. Bring in your local jobbers for some of the regular show matches and give the week after week after week of seeing the same guys wrestle the same guys a break. Develop a contendor ranking. Give life to the barely existent tag team division, unify some titles between Slackdown and Raw. But yes, it can be better. Sometimes you need a lackluster big event to make the next one spectacular. This may be that event for the WWE.

 

[R.K.O]

As long as HHH never fight Taker again i will be fine. However WM over the years has lost its luster and WM27 felt like a big RAW more than anything.

More like as long as Miz never main event a WM again. Today he proved to the world that he can't even wrestle a mediocre match and I don't want to see him ruin another WM again.

R.K.O yes they pulled out all of the stops but booking was terrible, writing was terrible, some of the actual wrestling performers was terrible (Cena not really trying..)

They could have the roster of FCW and it would make Mania awesome if they booked it right. There was so much potential and it ended up being worse than a Raw episode.

Not because of the stars.

You do need the stars or good performers to make a show. WM is suppose to be for the clash of icons such as Hogan vs Andre, Hogan vs Rock, and etc. The casual fans who orders mania will not be paying over $60 to see Chavo vs Curt Hawkins.

For WM27 I was literally asking really, REALLY? When I found out Miz was going to main event a WM because I still regard him as a joke from just a year ago with the scarf on his head and the fact that he is a terrible wrestler simply means that it won't be a classic WM match like Bret Hart vs HBK. He totally proved me right today and not even The Rock can save the match from being a clusterfuck borefest.

 

[TheBestThereNevaWas]

then the thing that pissed me off the most is the Undertaker vs HHH match dont get me wrong it was a really good match which I enjoyed watching but the finish was a joke it made the Deadman look really weak and HHH look like this superman Why couldnt HHH just get Pinned like everyone else over the years why make out that Undertaker can only beat him by doing that chokehold then to have HHH walk out like the Undertaker was lucky but to have the Deadman being carried out was a real shame. it made me feel like Undertaker cant role with the big boys anymore.

My real issue with it was how long HHH stayed in the gogoplata before he gave up. A submission loss is normally regarded as a better and harder to pull off victory especially against another main eventer.

The ending basically played on what HHH said on RAW about 'Taker being too injured to still compete. This actually plays into next year's 'Mania because it's more credible now than ever before that his streak can be broken...by anyone. Heck, for all we know, HHH might want another crack at him and make this one a career vs streak match like HBK did. I still think 'Taker's final match should be against Super Cena (not heel Cena). That's truly the only matchup that I see will seriously make fans think that the streak will end.

But yea...seeing 'Taker carried out was a real bizarre moment. I guess he hadn't healed up sufficiently but still went out there and worked his arse off.

 

[OnTheBrink]

My real issue with it was how long HHH stayed in the gogoplata before he gave up. A submission loss is normally regarded as a better and harder to pull off victory especially against another main eventer.

The ending basically played on what HHH said on RAW about 'Taker being too injured to still compete. This actually plays into next year's 'Mania because it's more credible now than ever before that his streak can be broken...by anyone. Heck, for all we know, HHH might want another crack at him and make this one a career vs streak match like HBK did. I still think 'Taker's final match should be against Super Cena (not heel Cena). That's truly the only matchup that I see will seriously make fans think that the streak will end.

But yea...seeing 'Taker carried out was a real bizarre moment. I guess he hadn't healed up sufficiently but still went out there and worked his arse off.

I was at Wrestlemania last night, even though I sat in the upper deck. Two things that I during and after the HHH/Taker match. When HHH was using the multiple chair shots on Taker, it looked like his last one was a head shot. Not sure how it came off on TV but it looked like he nailed him to the top of the head. That combined with the tombstone HHH did on Taker looked like from where I was (which I was watching the screens at this point) is that Hunter dropped Taker on his head and didn't execute the Tombstone Piledriver safely, possibly causing a concussion which is why you could've seen Hells Gate be the final move, cause it looked like Hunter took the initiative and moved to finish the match on that move cause Taker had nothing left and was not in the right state of mind. After the match, several trainers did different concussion tests, (checking the pupils, etc), and I thought I saw one of the trainers say "He might be concussed." HHH had a legit look like the "injury," whether real or a selling of it, was real cause he stayed around after for a good bit checking on the Deadman.

 

[Midnite Express 2009]

Last night's Mania was a disappointment & I still want to read or hear reports on why Del Rio did not go over. Was there something that happened? What caused them to have the match first as if this was The Great American Bash. SmackDown's top title went on before an 8 man tag featuring the stars from the same brand. Something strikes me as curious.

The Undertaker/HHH match left me very unfulfilled as I did not expect Shawn Michaels NOT to come out. I mean, what was the purpose of him being on Raw last Monday if he wasn't apart of the overall match? An interference was what everyone expected and it didn't happen.

The whole Josh Matthews thing made NO sense whatsoever. Why Josh Matthews? What was his purpose of even being involved with the Michael Cole/Jerry Lawler match? And why would Lawler be disqualifed on account of Steve Austin? Who wrote that into the script? The fact that the Raw GM appeared on WrestleMania WITHOUT appearing on WrestleMania really made it seem extremely cheesy and watered down and almost as if "this isn't REALLY a WrestleMania", this is a bigger Monday Night Raw. If Lawler were to be DQ'd for Austin's actions (even though Austin was the ref anyway) then why not DQ HHH for bringing a sledgehammer into the ring and trying to use it OR why not DQ the Miz on behalf of The Rock for giving the Rock Bottom to John Cena? Both of those matches featured men from Raw so why would they make it seem like the Raw GM just HAD to DQ Lawler and completely ignore everyone else?

WrestleMania looked like the best that TNA could ever offer, which says a LOT about WrestleMania, not necessarily TNA. They kept hyping it up as "The Biggest WrestleMania of All-Time and yet have constantly taken steps backwards in the overall production since WrestleMania XIX. Nothing was a "WrestleMania" moment. This seemed very strug together at the last minute and they didn't even know what to do with the U.S. Title match.

Giving Snooki a match and NOT giving more time to Orton/C.M. Punk and/or developing more "matches" that people wanted to actually watch killed Mania. I don't know what Vince McMahon was/is thinking, but whatever it was wasn't good. I was pissed the moment Edge pinned Del Rio & it was pretty much a snowball effect. How do they even get Alberto his heat now? They basically killed everything about his character in one match. Sad...This was the wrost WrestleMania in quite sometime. SMH

 

[MOExecution]

Alright I think it is time to clear up the Undertaker vs Triple H match...

Last night in the Undertaker vs Triple H match they told one hell of a story in the ring. It was not suppose to make Undertaker look weak IF ANYTHING it was suppose to be the one WrestleMania where Undertaker might actually lose! Where has everybody been during this whole storyline? Triple H was suppose to be played off as remorseless and that's exactly what he did. He showed absolutely no remorse towards Undertaker. He started off trading punches, spearing him through the glass pod, hitting a spinebuster through the announce table, taking a hard bump on the barricade wall, connecting with three pedigrees, multiple chairshots to the back and head, and even connecting with his own Tombstone piledriver. Triple H screaming, "Stay down! What's wrong with you?" it was suppose to show, "Ain't no grave can hold my body down." And also the doubt in his voice. The gogoplata was Undertaker's last shot at beating Triple H. When Triple H was grabbing for the sledgehammer it was suppose to bring anticipation that Triple H could hit Undertaker, get out, and potentially end this, but Triple H passed out and Undertaker won. After the match after all that brutality he received he had to be carried out on a stretcher I think he was selling his injuries, but it could have been also he was in real pain.

People they were paying more attention to the violence instead of the actual story. If you paid attention to what these two were telling in the ring then you would think twice about Undertaker looking weak and Triple H looking strong. Triple H was meant to look strong. Undertaker was meant to look weak, but in the process looking unbeatable at WrestleMania. Now that you know the story go back and look at the match and then come back and let's see if your opinion changed. Triple H and Undertaker created art last night. It just proved that no matter what you do Undertaker will never stay down and will always find a way to win at WrestleMania.

 

[RKO_Wheal_91]

i think the hhh/taker match was worked really well beacuse we all know taker is still not 100% after rotator cuff surgery yet the match didnt involve much wrestling more fighting and outside of the ring action which kept the crown going and on their feet. To be honest at points when hhh hit the 3rd pedigree or even the tombstone i actually thought the streak is over. wwe booked this match really well but it looked as if they but to much effort into this match and not any other which is a shame as wm27 had potential.

 

[Affliction]

wow...that was awful, just awful.

What happened to the Daniel Bryan vs Sheamus US Title Match?
Why did they put the World Heavyweight Title match first? is the 'E trying to destroy the title and rob it of all its prestige? They could've put that awful 8 man tag match first, or the Cody Rhodes/Rey Mysterio match. But I'm glad Christian pushed his recovery and actually made it to mania to be Edge's cheerleader. I knew this would happen, I knew they'd crap all over Christian (again)...I honestly can't see how some of you actually though he'd be included in the match.
Now, I knew the Lawler/Ratface match would be bad, but come on...that was just unbearable...and f'n long too, even the crowd started chanting "boring', and that finale, oh god almighty, that finale...Jerry's first(and probably last) WM match and it's not even against a wrestler, it's against a commentator...a really bad...and he f'n lost the match, I was hoping Ratface would get off tv after Mania, but it seems he's still going to ruin every Raw and Smack Down from now on. And why the stunners on Booker and Josh Matthews? I get that they're bad commentators and they wanted to get them off the air but the stunners felt unneeded and stupid, well, at least the Booker one was kind of funny and to be honest, I was expecting it, but the other one was just...why?
and speaking of why, the snookie match...why? Lucky John Morrison, this match will surely get him a world title shot in the near future
stupid main even with a mediocre wrestler and a frog faced loser with no wrestling abilities whatsoever...sorry Rock, you couldn't save this garbage of a match.
and worst of all...the Streak match...which was actually a pretty good match but god damn that ending...When Taker wasn't even able to get up anymore and H was telling him to stay down,...it reminded me of the Shawn/Taker match of last year and I was really scared that the spoiled prostitute would end the streak, but still, that ending...GOD!
Undertaker HAS to retire before next year's Wrestlemania, because if he doesn't, we all know the streak is going to die and looking at the roster, none of those clowns are worthy of doing it, so I pray to God he does retire 'cause I don't want the streak to be broken by someone like miz.

 

[Ferathon]

then the thing that pissed me off the most is the Undertaker vs HHH match dont get me wrong it was a really good match which I enjoyed watching but the finish was a joke it made the Deadman look really weak and HHH look like this superman Why couldnt HHH just get Pinned like everyone else over the years why make out that Undertaker can only beat him by doing that chokehold then to have HHH walk out like the Undertaker was lucky but to have the Deadman being carried out was a real shame. it made me feel like Undertaker cant role with the big boys anymore.

I think that ending was improvised, because Taker looked seriously injured. When he missed HHH on that dive, it looked like his head got driven into the ground. Under the same respects I think it was a great ending to the match, personally.

Also, WM28 better be better than 27 or there will be no more buying PPVs from me, which I only get Mania anyway.

 

[brandogg]

Some of you guys are either biased, or on crack. The Undertaker HHH match was awesome. Awesome. I'm sure the whole stretcher thing is a work, as JR and Lawler kept mentioning that HHH was using "high impact" moves, which will work to keep the Undertaker off of TV for a while again. This match wasn't made to make the Undertaker look weak...he was facing the 13 time World Champion, who put him through an announce table, through the Cole Mine, beat him with a chair (including the forbidden head shot), gave him 3 Pedigrees and a Tombstone piledriver, and still won the match. How that makes him look weak is beyond me, and the fact that he held HHH in the Hell's Gate for so long shows more strength than just doing another Tombstone. That match was better than both Undertaker HBK matches.

As far as the rest of the show - main event was weak, but obviously it was a tool to get a Cena vs Rock match going, and a way to have Miz retain the belt. Edge vs Del Rio was perfect for the opener if you ask me. The 8 man tag match was absolutely pointless, and so was the Snooki match, but those were both meant to settle the crowd anyway. CM Punk vs RKO probably would have been better later in the PPV, but it was still a great match, so who cares if it took place 20 minutes earlier than you though it should have.

 

[roflrofl60]

That did not live up to any hype at all.
WM27 went completely messed as soon as the US Title Match was pulled out. And everyone has already said most of what everyone else is thinking, the Cole/Lawler match was horribly long and boring and the ending did not make sense at ALL. Orton and Punk should have gone longer. Cody/Rey were alright. But Sheamus and DBD was the one people wanted to see start off WM27 and get the ball rolling. The ball didnt even start, rather it just crashed and burned.
Overall i give it 2/5..
really disappointed.

However it was much better hearing JR and Lawler back together for a while and not anyone else..

 

[Optimist Prime]

I'll tell you. I actually watched all of Wrestlemania 7 earlier in the day and when I compare Wrestlemania 27 to it, WM27 looked like a $60 Monday Night Raw, at best. It certainly was not the "Showcase of Immortals" as it used to be billed.

Not only were the matches lined up in disarray...but nothing made any sense. The US title was left off the entire show, the World Heavyweight Title match (which somebody brilliantly branded - Vince's "Glorified new-Intercontinental Title") was the first on the show.

Undertaker and Triple H had the best match but since neither lacked the ability of Shawn Michaels - they seemed to pull out their finishing moves more and more to save themselves from drowning.

Lawler and Cole match just didn't make any sense at all. What was the point of the GM at the end? Any reason at all?

Snooki is wrestling in Wrestlemania? Where was Sheamus? I absolutely hate Daniel Bryan and think he's the most boring wrestler in recent memory but him and his US title are left off the card and Snooki is on it?

Last night would have been a boring "In Your House" style pay-per-view if it were billed as one...let alone a Wrestlemania.

Unfortunately, I think the lack of competition and lack of personality, storyline build up, and cool characters will prevent Wrestlemania from being anything special for many years to come. Let alone wrestling (or sports entertainment) in general.

We're seeing exactly what I've been lobbying against on here for a very long time. While Wrestlemania 7 may not have had the "talent" of wrestling the wrestlers have today - they certainly made up for it with their personalities, charisma, storyline build up, wrestling attire, entrance music, and literally everything else.

And I don't see any of that coming back for quite some time unfortunately.

 

[rko_kazreema]

"clusterf**k"? i really didnt think it was a bad mania, the only problems i had with it was...world title match being on first!? and what was the point in building up del rio like they did if he was just gonna lose to 1 spear in a ten minute opening match??
another thing, cole and king could have been so much more than it was, bad booking there, and the cena/miz match werent great but what was you expecting really?? nice ending though with the rock gettin physical with both of them!
all in all i was happy with it, undertaker vs triple h was top quality ( the reason of the way it ended was to make it look like the streak is closer n closer to being ended each year), i enjoyed rhodes/mysterio and punk/orton!
I do think though manias should be 5 hours long though, to create more time for main events n a little more time for up and coming stars who would otherwise be left off the card..

All in all...7/10

 

[andres torti]

Hi guys,i´m from Spain.Watched Wrestlemania yesterday,
I liked this Wrestlemania.Its not the best one i ever watched.But still liked it.
I loved the match between Triple H and The Undertaker.The storyline in the ring was impressive.I think that not all people understood the ending but like Brandogg said:

"I'm sure the whole stretcher thing is a work, as JR and Lawler kept mentioning that HHH was using "high impact" moves, which will work to keep the Undertaker off of TV for a while again. This match wasn't made to make the Undertaker look weak...he was facing the 13 time World Champion, who put him through an announce table, through the Cole Mine, beat him with a chair (including the forbidden head shot), gave him 3 Pedigrees and a Tombstone piledriver, and still won the match. How that makes him look weak is beyond me, and the fact that he held HHH in the Hell's Gate for so long shows more strength than just doing another Tombstone"

I didnt like 2 matches, Cole & Lawler and the one with Snooki in it.


Next year this would be good:

Sin Cara - Rey mysterio
Cena - The Rock
Undertaker - Cena or Sting(that will never happen)
Alberto del Rio - Cm Punk

 

[xcoN]

Out of 10 stars i'd give this Wrestlemania a 3. Bored me to death and nothing exciting happened. I won't go into all the details but yes it wasn't good. Its way too early to say if W.M. 28 will be better but i'm hoping it will be. Wrestlemania 27 has to go down as one of the worst 'manias of all time. Throw it in with 2, 11, 9 and even 15.

 

[Chopper]

This was the worst Wrestlemania I have ever seen. Worse than 9, yes worse than 11.

Although there was a few decent matches, some would of been better off left on Raw and Smackdown

8-Man tag: The Fact that Satino did the cobra (uuugh) at WM ruined the entire event and killed the heat the Corre had. Looks like FCW is going to get over-crowded.

Snookie: First off, who is this girl? Nobody! And she gets a match? JoMo had a couple good spots but then this no name celebrity gets the pin.

The fact that Sheamus and Daniel Byran didnt happen is a spit in the face to them both and the US title. SHowing the non-importance that titles have become at Wm over the past 7 years.

Miz Cena- worst main event since LT and Bigelow. Seriously! Not even the Rock's interference saved this one.

Lawler and Cole" the reverse decision killed it!! and ruined all of the heat and build-up. Stone Cold (although one of my all time favs) couldnt save it, but he sent some fans home happy with a beer bash and 2 Stunners. Good enough

I think a lot of people who actually paid for the PPV were ripped off. Wouldnt be surpirsed if they want refunds. I would of, if I didnt watch it streaming.

Good parts: Cody RHodes' push. His victorry is solidifying him into a superstar. He WILL be IC champ this year, Book it!

Taker HHH was medicore, but the streak is alive!

Punk/Orton: okay but bad booking... Punk def should of won, I was hoping for a Nexus reunion, but of course thyre in FCW.

1/5 stars: horrid PPV

 

[WunNightStan619]

then the thing that pissed me off the most is the Undertaker vs HHH match dont get me wrong it was a really good match which I enjoyed watching but the finish was a joke it made the Deadman look really weak and HHH look like this superman Why couldnt HHH just get Pinned like everyone else over the years why make out that Undertaker can only beat him by doing that chokehold then to have HHH walk out like the Undertaker was lucky but to have the Deadman being carried out was a real shame. it made me feel like Undertaker cant role with the big boys anymore.

i dont understand what your saying. Taker kicked out of 3 consecutive pedigree's and a chair shot to the head, then made HHH tap out. Idk how that makes him look weak...if anything it makes HHH look strong as hell. Nobody has ever taken it to taker like that at wrestlemania..not even kane..The fact that undertaker left on a stretcher is a testament to how strong they made HHH look, not how weak taker looked.

 

[xcoN]

Undertaker vs HHH wasn't horrible if you add in the fact that 'taker had little to no movement in his shoulder. He did some moves that he probably shouldn't have done but we all knew this wouldn't be great. With WWE asking him to stay for another 5 years; we all knew the streak wouldn't end. Undertaker wins at 'mania with HHH beating him down pretty well. Both came out strong and neither one looked weak.

 

[Tired0FthePeople]

To everyone talking about how weak Taker looked, you have to realize it was booked like that on purpose. Taker is old and is actually going to retire soon. He takes long breaks and barely wrestles and eventually he will pass the torch kinda like Rock did to Brock. That doesnt mean he'll neccessarlily(sp) lose at at a Wrestlemania, but booking taker to 'barely' beat HHH just sets up the story line for Taker to come out and start talking about how its getting close to being time for him to take his leave. See, this is a way also for Taker to win and for HHH not to be 'buried.' ( i say this because of the comments IDR has made about Sting being 'buried' if he had come to WWE and lost to Taker at Mania.)

Taker's story line will now be how he is as vulnerable as he's ever been and it took a miracle for him to beat HHH. HHH can play up on this fact and possibly have a match with Taker at the next PPV. Any way they book it, this match was booked to set up Takers' retirement and it was done perfectly when looking at it from that aspect.