Ahem. Im pretty sure he wasnt on about new guys shooting, more on the way new posters are treated in general. I dont think he was calling you out or twisting anything, you may just be being a tad oversensitive
Correct. If I didn't make that clear, I apologise. It was supposed to be "something that IC said made me think about the attitude as a whole". It is far more aimed at this kind of thing:
Poster with around 500 posts: I think X because Y
Poster with around 4 posts: I think your wrong because Z (normally a much better argument)
Poster with around 500 posts: Who are you?
Also, if you think that I think that my opinion is somehow more important than anyone else's on this topic, you've wholly missed the point. Not self-righteous, just able to speak with 100% confidence in what I'm saying. I'd be a fantastic boxer, if I wasn't fat, slow and unable to throw a punch with my left arm.
IC is probably only second to TM in terms of making people welcome here, and usually does bring up good posters long before anyone else does. That's another thing that Norcal does pretty well actually.
I really don't get the point of mentoring though. Here's my advice to anyone who needs a mentor - "think before you speak". Or type anyway. If you can't see your argument, don't expect anyone else to. In your first post, be succinct, nobody wants to read a tome when they aren't invested in the topic. As for debating, the Luther interpretation of debating on this forum is too often depressingly accurate. Don't break down everything line by line, do what Sly, Gelgarin and IC do - pick out the important points, but more importantly the important points that are wrong, and address them. If you aren't as witty as Coco or General Disarray (the proper one) don't try and be an intelligent troll, it won't work and everyone will hate you. My number one piece of advice though is if you have nothing to add to the discussion, don't say it. It astonishes me how many times you go into a conversation and about 100 people have made the same identikit point. The fun here is in the conversation, not in boosting the post count. Klunderbunker has a ridiculous post count because he spent so much time doing OCW, something he enjoyed, not because he went in every single TNA thread and repeated someone else's opinion.
Xfear didn't get a mention, no, I apologise. Xfear is not one of the people who has been two faced to TM. The people that have, know they have. Xfear is the only person I've never met whose opinion I once considered asking. I still might, and if I don't it's no reflection on him.
I have more to say, I just have to go to work.