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A Very Regal Three Hour RAW: King Of The Ring LD - 11/29/10

It was one match in his first title defense, to say he will be a weak champion through is run is unfair.

I never said he was going to be a weak champion but the signs are he will be booked as one, needing help from his lackeys to win. Nothing wrong with that though. I only said he appeared weak in this particular match.
 
Oh gee, a "weak" looking champion that people want to see lose.

HELP! THEY'RE MAKING AN EFFECTIVE HEEL!
 
Only took two people's interference and weapons.

Who threw him through that table?
actually, it was a TLC match, so weapons don't mean shit. Not to mention that it took weapons to give King even a remote shot at winning. Again, making it TLC was an EQUALIZER for King, since he had more at his disposal then just athletic ability (which Miz clearly outshines King at in 2010).
 
Not at all. George Foreman won the Heavyweight Championship of the World at age 45 (in a real sport). Old timers that can still go are always capable of pulling that 1 vintage performance out of nowhere. And as I said earlier, Ladder/TLC matches give the underdog a HUGE advantage, since the big-damage potential is so high.

Besides, last I checked, Miz won the match. That's not looking weak. Looking weak would be losing non-title matches.
I know he won the match. It still took other people for him to win it. Had it not been for Cole and Riley it would appear that he would lose. Plus he won it in a weak way, this is why I'm saying he looks weak.
Oh so the only way the Miz wouldn't look weak was if Lawler got in no offense at all? Pushing him off the top rope (after he landed n his nuts) and through a table makes you weak? You're a fuckin moron
Aw thanks buddy. Wanna try me?
 
I know he won the match. It still took other people for him to win it. Had it not been for Cole and Riley it would appear that he would lose. Plus he won it in a weak way, this is why I'm saying he looks weak.

Aw thanks buddy. Wanna try me?

What do you want an intelligence test? you're being ignorant, or you just hate the Miz, whatever it is you have 5 people on here telling you how wrong you are so why don;t you atleast try to understand what we're saying
 
OK, I have to say this. If using lackeys/cheating to retain titles is weak, then...

THE ROCK WAS A WEAK CHAMPION!!!!! HE USED THE CORPORATION TO HELP HIM WIN HIS MATCHES!!!!!! SO WAS TRIPLE H, HE USED EVOLUTION!! HOLLYWOOD HOGAN WAS A WEAK CHAMPION TOO, HE USED THE nWo! And for all you TNA losers, JEFF HARDY'S A WEAK CHAMPION, HE USES THAT GROUP OF OLD TIMERS TO HELP HIM WIN MATCHES!!!

Doc is right (not surprising in the least). It's not being weak, it's being HEEL. Miz was an effective HEEL champion there, using everything to his advantage to attain victory from the jaws of defeat.
 
I don't think The Miz looked bad at all. When you break it down, here are the facts:
- Jerry Lawler is a Hall of Famer
- 'Old timers' can pull out suprising performances as a result of adrenaline, determination, etc...
- A TLC matchup is a match where suprises can happen due to hithe dangerous surroundings, as Punk kept saying, it only takes one mistake.
- This was the town of Rocky, where underdogs shine.

Taking all these into account, it's plausible that Jerry Lawler could have won the match. Also, in the broader picture, the match gainedeven more heat for The Miz and Michael Cole, which can't be a bad thing. The match was believable and it did its job.
 
Erm... isn't the point of using lackeys is so that the wrestler appear to be weak so that the fans will boo more as they don't think he deserve to win?
 
What do you want an intelligence test? you're being ignorant, or you just hate the Miz, whatever it is you have 5 people on here telling you how wrong you are so why don;t you atleast try to understand what we're saying
Well since I'm obviously showing everyone how wrong they are I think I win this one. Everyone that's defending this match is a mark for him and don't want to hear anything negative about their boy. How hard is it to see that when your banner champion is in a match with a retired senior citezen and barely eeks out a win because of two people interfering it shows he's weak?
 
Erm... isn't the point of using lackeys is so that the wrestler appear to be weak so that the fans will boo more as they don't think he deserve to win?
Don't say that, it's too logical. Who cares if it's spot on, Miz-haters will deny it and give you shit.
 
Erm... isn't the point of using lackeys is so that the wrestler appear to be weak so that the fans will boo more as they don't think he deserve to win?

No it's not the point. It's because the heel wants to cheat to win to ensure that he wins IN CASE ANYTHING GOES WRONG, LIKE GOING THROUGH A TABLE.
 
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:p

The IWC will be coming with their pitchforks now.
way to take everything I said WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of context. I said Rock was weak when he was in the Corporation, which by Miz-haters definition of weak would be accurate. I'm not calling them weak at all.
 
I'm pretty sure CM Punk said numerous times throughout the match that it only takes one mistake to loost a TLC match when talking about The Miz...going through the table was that one mistake. It's pretty straight forward. 'Accidents' happen all the time in matches like TLC, hell, John Cena fell through a table last year and lost based on that.
 
Well since I'm obviously showing everyone how wrong they are I think I win this one. Everyone that's defending this match is a mark for him and don't want to hear anything negative about their boy. How hard is it to see that when your banner champion is in a match with a retired senior citezen and barely eeks out a win because of two people interfering it shows he's weak?

No you lose because you can't read. I said about five times already i don't like the Miz either, doesn't look like a champion, it's too early for him and his ring skills aren't good, I like his mic skills and that's it. Talk all the shit you want about him I don;t care i dont get attached to people in a fake sport. You just hate on him because you hate him. fact is he didn't look weak tonight, he went through a table which could happen to anybody, guess you're new to this fake sport, than he hit the guy with the belt and won, NOT WEAK
 
Well since I'm obviously showing everyone how wrong they are I think I win this one. Everyone that's defending this match is a mark for him and don't want to hear anything negative about their boy. How hard is it to see that when your banner champion is in a match with a retired senior citezen and barely eeks out a win because of two people interfering it shows he's weak?

Now you're just being a dick in the face of confrontation.

You let someone who used to be a bodybuilder punch you clean in the face and slam you with a ladder, and we'll see how weak you are.

If we're all marks, then you're just some smark who can't accept the fact that a heel champion did his job right, and YOU'RE the proof.
 
Say what you want. The main event put over the announce team in the ring at the expense of the Champion. This is why people are not excited about the Miz as champ. The fluke heel champion after MITB has been beaten to death and hasn't been interesting since it was overdone to the point of ruining Edge. How anyone sees that segment as not confirming Miz is being booked as a fluke champion is beyond me.
 

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