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Frank the Frowner

Getting Noticed By Management
With Spring Training right around the corner, it's time to get an MLB thread active. Are you happy with what your team has done to improve? Are you mortified by what your team has done? Let's get some discussion going.

As a Red Sox fan, I'm confused about the Bartolo Colon signing. People will go ahead and say it's only a minor-league deal, and it's low-risk, high-reward. I just think it's a waste of time. He can't throw his fastball over 90 mph anymore. He's been a wreck since his elbow injury. And with a rotation of Beckett/Matsuzaka/Wakefield/Lester/Tavarez, with Buchholz and Justin Masterson in AAA... there's a very solid foundation there.

Colon will most likely be the first person to get called up in case of an injury, and I can already envision him getting shellacked in 2/3 of an inning by a team like Anaheim... er, the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

On the bright side, I have tickets to the Patriots Day game vs. Texas, a game vs. the Angels, the D-Backs, and the Twins... did anyone else get tickets yet?
 
With Spring Training right around the corner, it's time to get an MLB thread active. Are you happy with what your team has done to improve? Are you mortified by what your team has done? Let's get some discussion going.

As a Red Sox fan, I'm confused about the Bartolo Colon signing. People will go ahead and say it's only a minor-league deal, and it's low-risk, high-reward. I just think it's a waste of time. He can't throw his fastball over 90 mph anymore. He's been a wreck since his elbow injury. And with a rotation of Beckett/Matsuzaka/Wakefield/Lester/Tavarez, with Buchholz and Justin Masterson in AAA... there's a very solid foundation there.

Colon will most likely be the first person to get called up in case of an injury, and I can already envision him getting shellacked in 2/3 of an inning by a team like Anaheim... er, the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

The more Red Sox fans the better. I too am a die hard Sox fan, but I'm very pleased with the Bartolo Colon signing.

I mean, it may sound repititive, but it's a very low risk deal that could have a very high reward. Colon has been wracked with injuries the last two seasons, but before that he was one of the top pitchers in all of baseball. This guy is a Cy Young winner. He never had the time to properly rehab that shoulder, if he can do that with the regiment that they've prepared for him, who knows at what level he could perform? Theres a better chance of him going back to his old ways then not I'd say.

And it's only a minor league, one year deal for little over 1 million. Thats a very cheap and affordable deal. Schilling is injured, Wakefield is very spotty (either terrible or great), Lester is still young and had the tendency to implode at certain points last year, Bucholz is still very green (though obviously immensely talented), Tavarez is crap to be honest, nothing better then a middle inning reliever IMO, and Dice-K's ERA started to rise with fatigue last year. I'd say the more pitching the better. All of those guys are capable, but to have a solid veteran like Colon will do the ball club good.

Man am I excited for this season. I can't wait to see Jacoby Ellsbury out in Center Field on a regular basis, and that new Championship banner raised.

Re-peat! Re-peat! Re-peat!
 
Tavarez wasn't that bad last year. Many times, he was going up against the other team's #1. He kept the Sox in it for the most part... which is all you can ask out of your #5. I'm no fan of Freddy Krueger, but as a #5, he's not bad. Colon's definitely an interesting gamble, I'm just wondering if he has anything left, especially when Kip Wells got $3 million guaranteed, and he's pretty much in a non-guaranteed, incentive laden contract.

I definitely can't wait to see Jacoby out there on a full-time basis... hopefully we get something for Coco. I see another Jay Payton situation with him, and I can personally attest that he's not exactly the friendliest of athletes.
 
XFEAR Bartolo Colon is gonna do nothing but get hurt...trust me as an Angels fan I know! I am still evaluating the season so its wayy too early for me to tell who is gonna win the world series and all. I know the Angels will win the west again and we CAN beat the Indians and even the Tigers...one player even Miguel Cabrera is not gonna change the entire team...we did SWEEP the Tigers last year so remember that.....I dont think the Red Sox are gonna win again but thats only because no one repeats anymore but if anyone did have a chance to break that curve, it would be Boston....the Angels need to learn how to beat the Red Sox then we can beat anyone....our offense is better...Figgins and Kendrick-hit for average, Guerrero and Hunter-hit for power and average, Napoli-hit for power, Kotchman-hit for average and some power....Anderson, Matthiews-hit for average so yes the Angels only have 2 or 3 at best power hitters but titles are won with pitching so that should NOT be a sole reason for the Angels not getting anywhere in the playoffs...if you recall everyone, the Red Sox were always known as a 2 power hitter team but guys STEPPED UP LAST YEAR. that is why they won it was not just Ortiz and Ramirez and that is why they are champs.
 
Living here in PGH pretty much sucks when baseball season rolls around. The Nuttings don't really care about the team, and that was noticeable when they past on Wieters and drafted that Moskos. Wieters was supposedly the best catching prospect in the last ten years, but hey the Pirates redeemed themselves by picking up Dough Mientkiewicz, and Submarine pitcher B.H. Kim :icon_rolleyes:

The Pirates have no chance of winning so they should go to their young guys like Neil Walker, and Andrew McCutchen. They fired their pitching coach, might not sound like a big deal, but he had the track record of changing his pitchers delivery, for example, Oliver Perez, Paul Maholm, and Zack Duke. Two of those pitchers had a good season, then he changed the delivery, then they went down hill. So maybe the new coach will let them pitch the way they feel comfortable (if that makes anysense whatsoever?).

My little season run down:

NL East: i got the Phillies to win that division, its a gut feeling but i think they are more sound from top to bottom. The Mets are aging outside of a few select players, and i still think the Phillies have a better pitching staff and line-up. Phillies win the division by two games.

NL Central: Toss up for me, I got Chicago or Milwaukee, Milwaukee has the youth, and that Fielder is a beast. But when push comes to shove i think Chicago wins by three games

NL West: Eww tough one here, but i am going out on the limb and saying the Padre's will win this division. They have the pitching, and if they can find there bats, they should be alright

AL East: Boston by a game or two.

AL Central: I think Detroit will rebound, and i think they will win that division by 5 games. They still have youth, they got the hitting, there players are more experienced, and they have a good rotation with the addition to Willis.

Verlander
Willis
Bonderman

That is a very very good 1,2,3 punch. Plus Kenny Rogers, he's pretty clutch for being up their in age.

AL West: Angels. This is my WS winner this year. They have solid Starting Pitching, a good bull pen, and they have one helluva line up with Hunter, Vlad, Kotchman, Figgins, Kendrick
 
Yea i agree with Brianbeckerisagod The Tigers will win the AL central ...as a tigers fan but boston? i mean really boston? wtf?seriously they need some new (American) pitchers but htere hitting and feilding is good for the most part.
 
Why not the Red Sox? They only won the World Series last year. And in addition to Beckett, Matsuzaka, and Wakefield, Jon Lester and Clay Buchholz are going to make an impact for this team this season. Schilling will be back in July, Colon could surprise, and if Tavarez is adequate, that's huge as well. The bullpen is also very solid, with Papelbon and Okajima as the anchors.

As far as predictions go:

AL
East
1. Red Sox
2. Yankees (WC)
3. Blue Jays
4. Rays
5. Orioles

Central:
1. Tigers
2. Indians
3. White Sox
4. Twins
5. Royals

West:
1. Angels
2. Mariners
3. Rangers
4. Athletics

NL
East
1. Mets
2. Phillies (WC)
2. Braves (They tie, Phillies win tiebreaker)
4. Nationals
5. Marlins

Central
1. Cubs
2. Brewers
3. Cardinals
4. Astros
5. Reds
6. Pirates

West
1. D-Backs
2. Padres
3. Dodgers
4. Rockies
5. Giants
 
I really like everything that my Detroit Tigers did this offseason, we now have the best lineup in all of baseball, with the addition of Miguel Cabrera and Edgar Renterria. The Tigers could legitimately have 7 players hit over .300 this year (Granderson, Polanco, Guillen, Maggs, Cabrera, Sheff and Renterria). The team will get a much needed power jolt with Cabrera who can bring 40 HR and 125 RBI to the middle of the lineup. This team is so stacked it is unbelievable, starting pitching is very solid with Verlander, Bonderman, Willis, Rogers and Robertson, 3 lefties is good by me, especially when our 5th starter could be a #3 or 4 guy elsewhere.

The only question is in the bullpen, Todd Jones is very inconsistent, and we had to trade away some of our good pitching prospects in the Cabrera/Willis deal along with the offseason injury to Joel Zumaya.

Brandon Inge is looking to be traded and could get an average MR for him, but overall I see the Tigers as my favorite for the World Series.

AL East- I see Boston, but Yanks close and TB taking third.

AL Central- Tigers take it, Cleveland is semi-close, but them and Yanks battle for wild card.

AL West- For some reason I like the Mariners in a hot race w/ Anaheim.

NL East- I like the Mets, w/ Philly close behind, but look for a random surge mid-season by Florida.

NL Central- I like the Brewers, but I think they'll get the wild card with the Cubs winning this one.

NL West- The most open race, I think its a toss up between Colorado and Arizona.
 
I really like everything that my Detroit Tigers did this offseason, we now have the best lineup in all of baseball, with the addition of Miguel Cabrera and Edgar Renterria. The Tigers could legitimately have 7 players hit over .300 this year (Granderson, Polanco, Guillen, Maggs, Cabrera, Sheff and Renterria). The team will get a much needed power jolt with Cabrera who can bring 40 HR and 125 RBI to the middle of the lineup. This team is so stacked it is unbelievable, starting pitching is very solid with Verlander, Bonderman, Willis, Rogers and Robertson, 3 lefties is good by me, especially when our 5th starter could be a #3 or 4 guy elsewhere.

The only question is in the bullpen, Todd Jones is very inconsistent, and we had to trade away some of our good pitching prospects in the Cabrera/Willis deal along with the offseason injury to Joel Zumaya.

Brandon Inge is looking to be traded and could get an average MR for him, but overall I see the Tigers as my favorite for the World Series.

AL East- I see Boston, but Yanks close and TB taking third.

AL Central- Tigers take it, Cleveland is semi-close, but them and Yanks battle for wild card.

AL West- For some reason I like the Mariners in a hot race w/ Anaheim.

NL East- I like the Mets, w/ Philly close behind, but look for a random surge mid-season by Florida.

NL Central- I like the Brewers, but I think they'll get the wild card with the Cubs winning this one.

NL West- The most open race, I think its a toss up between Colorado and Arizona.

I wouldn't start ruling out the Cleveland Indians just yet mate. Detroit has definately upgraded itself bigtime and now looks much better, but I don't really see them in the World Series. Mainly because I still don't think they have a chance to take a series from the Red Sox.

Of course we all toot our own horns in these threads talking about how our favorite team is the best, but I seriously don't see how the Red Sox can't be the favorites. No one has changed in their lineup except now a much better young prospect centerfielder named Jacoby Ellsbury is there to add ridiculious speed, and a fantastic offensive bat. Not a gold glover by any means, but his speed alone makes him a good defender.

Aside from that, the only other changes have been improvements. All the key pieces are still here; Beckett, Papelbon, Ortiz, Ramirez, Lowell, Pedroia, Youkilis. Now add the fact that odds are JD Drew is going to have a much, much better year this year then last, and I can see the Sox easily winning 100 games this year as long as we avoid injuries.

We've got all our key pieces and some of the best ranked prospects in all of baseball coming up into the majors this year; we're gonna be hard to beat.

Obligatory BoSox fan rant is now over.
 
I wouldn't start ruling out the Cleveland Indians just yet mate. Detroit has definately upgraded itself bigtime and now looks much better, but I don't really see them in the World Series. Mainly because I still don't think they have a chance to take a series from the Red Sox.

Of course we all toot our own horns in these threads talking about how our favorite team is the best, but I seriously don't see how the Red Sox can't be the favorites. No one has changed in their lineup except now a much better young prospect centerfielder named Jacoby Ellsbury is there to add ridiculious speed, and a fantastic offensive bat. Not a gold glover by any means, but his speed alone makes him a good defender.

Aside from that, the only other changes have been improvements. All the key pieces are still here; Beckett, Papelbon, Ortiz, Ramirez, Lowell, Pedroia, Youkilis. Now add the fact that odds are JD Drew is going to have a much, much better year this year then last, and I can see the Sox easily winning 100 games this year as long as we avoid injuries.

We've got all our key pieces and some of the best ranked prospects in all of baseball coming up into the majors this year; we're gonna be hard to beat.

Obligatory BoSox fan rant is now over.

Well, how long will Beckett be out to start the year? I am thinking the Tigers can win 100 games, they will score over 1000 runs with their explosive lineup. I mean just take a look at it for yourself:

1. Granderson (Hit .300 last year w/ 20+ HR, 3B, SB and 30+ 2B, better than Ellsbury)
2. Polanco (so underrated, has hit around.340 the last 2 seasons and had 1 error last year)
3/4/5: Not sure how they'll arrange these 3.
Ordonez (breakout year last year and looking to keep it up, will bat .325 prob not .360 like last year but will drive in 100+ and hit around 25 or 30 HR)
Sheffield (who knows what he'll do, when he's playing well he is one of the MLB's best DHs hopefully he stays healthy)
Cabrera (he's already dropped some weight and I can see a new team jolting him, I smell an MVP season with the lineup around him)
6. Guillen (he'll once again hit .320 w/ 20 HR and close to 100 RBI like he has the last 2 years, and the move to 1B means less chance of being injured)
7. Renterria (a major upgrade for the Tigers getting rid of Sean Casey, he and Polanco will be stellar up the middle)
8. Pudge (yeah that's right Pudge Rodriguez will bat 8th in this lineup! I think he still has one big year left in him, hopefully this will be it)
9. Jacques Jones or Brandon Inge (both are terrific fielders, but not excellent batters, depends on where they decide to play Cabrera (3B or LF))

Plus Marcus Thames can be a fill in player and is capable of 15-20 HR in that role.

I just don't see how they are not better than Cleveland or Boston or LA.

Boston seems to be aging and Manny seemed to not care last year. Cleveland I felt we were better than last year we were just injury laden all season (Bonderman, Rogers, Sheff, Zumaya, Rodney). And I don't know too much about LA but I'll say we'd beat them too.

The Tigers are just too explosive throughout the lineup for a team to beat them in a 7-game series.
 
Well, how long will Beckett be out to start the year? I am thinking the Tigers can win 100 games, they will score over 1000 runs with their explosive lineup. I mean just take a look at it for yourself:

Beckett isn't injured, as ESPN would have you believe. He had minor back spams, he'll be ready to go by Opening Day without a doubt, much more likely he'll be back sooner then that.

1. Granderson (Hit .300 last year w/ 20+ HR, 3B, SB and 30+ 2B, better than Ellsbury)[/quote]

I won't disagree with you that Granderson is solid, but you can't exactly say he's better then Ellsbury when Ellsbury has never had a full year in the majors. This guy was hitting over .400 for most of his entire stint last year with the Sox, which all together was probably around 30 games last year. His speed is even better then Grandersons if you've ever seen him run, and with his great bat he'll easily be able to crank out numbers like Granderson's, though minus some of the power.

At the end of this season, then I think we could judge who's the better player, when they've both had a full year under their belts.

2. Polanco (so underrated, has hit around.340 the last 2 seasons and had 1 error last year)

Great player as well. But he's starting to age, and has virtually zero power and isn't a big run producer. Great player though obviously.

3/4/5: Not sure how they'll arrange these 3.
Ordonez (breakout year last year and looking to keep it up, will bat .325 prob not .360 like last year but will drive in 100+ and hit around 25 or 30 HR)

Again, can't disagree here.

Sheffield (who knows what he'll do, when he's playing well he is one of the MLB's best DHs hopefully he stays healthy)

Sheff is iffy IMO. He's still got some power, but he's started to completely lose his stroke as a hitter, and probably won't be going above .280 for the rest of his career. But he provides some good run support for sure, so can't argue with you that he's a valuable player. Just wish he would keep his damn mouth shut and stop acting like an idiot.

Cabrera (he's already dropped some weight and I can see a new team jolting him, I smell an MVP season with the lineup around him)

He's solid as hell and you're a lucky team to have such a great young talent, but I'm not seeing an MVP season. Not with A-Rod in the same league as him. Also, don't forget that when a player comes to a new team, more often then not he struggles rather then excels. Us Red Sox know all about that (Lugo, Drew, Renteria)

6. Guillen (he'll once again hit .320 w/ 20 HR and close to 100 RBI like he has the last 2 years, and the move to 1B means less chance of being injured)

Yet another guy who's starting to get real old as well. His hitting has been in decline as well, but I can see something along the lines of a .290/20/80 season.

7. Renterria (a major upgrade for the Tigers getting rid of Sean Casey, he and Polanco will be stellar up the middle)

Another guy who's getting up there in age. Big upgrade over Sean Casey, that's agreed. But he's mediocre at this point really. His last few years on offense have been piss-poor. Very overrated player.

8. Pudge (yeah that's right Pudge Rodriguez will bat 8th in this lineup! I think he still has one big year left in him, hopefully this will be it)

Meh. Perhaps Pudge does have another big year left in him, but I really don't think so. He's really getting up there now and his last few seasons have been more mediocrity. Still one of the best game managers in baseball though, so a big asset in that department.

9. Jacques Jones or Brandon Inge (both are terrific fielders, but not excellent batters, depends on where they decide to play Cabrera (3B or LF))

Meh, two more mediocre at best players. But then again, every lineup has 'em, right?

Plus Marcus Thames can be a fill in player and is capable of 15-20 HR in that role.

What? 15-20 HR in a utility role? Thats pretty ridiculious.

I just don't see how they are not better than Cleveland or Boston or LA.

Boston seems to be aging and Manny seemed to not care last year. Cleveland I felt we were better than last year we were just injury laden all season (Bonderman, Rogers, Sheff, Zumaya, Rodney). And I don't know too much about LA but I'll say we'd beat them too.

The Tigers are just too explosive throughout the lineup for a team to beat them in a 7-game series.

Allow me to present my case, just as you did yours. I'll start with the pitching staffs.

Red Sox clearly have the edge there.

The Sox have Josh Beckett, Dice-K, Jon Lester, Clay Bucholz, Tim Wakefield, Curt Schilling, and Bartolo Colon all as potential starters. Thats a fantastic staff, and one that is much better then the Detroit starting 5.

Beckett is easily capable and very likely to get 20 wins, Dice-K should be better this year now that he's used to the American baseball schedule, and should easily rack up 15 wins atleast, Lester is a big inning eater and gets a ton of ground balls and is also capable of 15 wins, but is more likely to get around 12, Bucholz is the best young pitching prospect in all of baseball and has the potential to be an ace, but will probably only get limited time as a 5th starter, Wakefield had 18 wins last year and is capable of doing the same this year, Schilling when he gets healthy would be capable of winning 8-10 games depending on when he returns, and if Bartolo Colon keeps getting healthy and better like he has been all spring, he could very well be a solid asset. Probably not ever going to revert to his Cy Young days, but could still be capable of winning 10-12 games.

The starting 5 for the Red Sox is much deeper and much better then the very overrated starting 5 for the Tigers, which consists of two has-beens in Kenny Rogers and Dontrelle Willis.

I'll go into why I think the Red Sox lineup is better then the Tigers lineup as well if you'd like, no problem.
 
Everyone is full of their well if our guys step up and do this then we'll be awesome, but I think it is going to be a very interesting season, especially in the AL, which has probably the 4-5 best teams in the MLB. But I would be interested to see your thoughts on Boston's lineup. And later I can post something about my thoughts on Detroit's pitching and specifically Dontrelle Willis.
 
I don't think there's any doubt the Tigers have an insanely good offense, a great manager, and a great general manager. They're my pick to take the Central.

However, the pitching, to me, raises a lot of red flags.

Verlander is, barring injury, going to be as solid as he usually is. There's no problem there.

Bonderman is someone whose career I've been following since his first callup straight from the A level. I still think he's going to be a great pitcher, but don't forget that he closed out 2007 with elbow inflammation, which is never a good sign, and could eventually lead to Tommy John surgery.

Rogers is 43, he should be solid... but the age must raise some concern.

Willis is the real wild card. 2007 saw him have his worst career as a major league pitcher. He went 10-15, with a 5.17 ERA. He had a .294 BAA, and his K/BB ratio was a frightening 1.68. Now he's heading to the American League, which offers more quality hitters, and is overall the tougher league to pitch in. The numbers and situation suggest he could be even worse than in 2007, but Willis is a former Cy Young Award winner. I'm very interested in seeing how he pans out.

Nate Robertson might be the best #5 in all of baseball.

The bullpen will undoubtedly be the make or break for the Tigers. Todd Jones is the third most shakiest closer in baseball, behind Joe Borowski and Troy Percival. Francisco Rodney is very inconsistent, and Zumaya won't be around until early June. After Bobby Seay, the rest are all unknowns and unsuccessful journeymen.

The Red Sox have the total package as far as pitching and hitting goes. Beckett will miss the first start of the season, but let's not forget that's next week. He'll be fine.
 
Yeah, Willis is a real wild card here, but I think that the one thing Willis has going for him is that many of the hitters he's facing will be unfamiliar to him and I think that's the reason he was so successful early in his career. If Willis is in a good situation on a good team, I see him having a great season, but as you said you can never be too sure.

And as far as my observation about Cabrera winning the MVP, it's a little bold but I think that last year he hit what 39 HR and had 124 RBI, on a below average Marlins team, what's he gonna be able to do when he's got Granderson, Polanco and possibly Ordonez in front of him w/ the potential of Ordonez, Sheffield or Guillen behind him, you won't be able to pitch around the guy and there'll be plenty of RBI opportunities for him.

Also, in the bullpen the Tigers have a few decent young guys, but they are unproven, I was really disappointed when they let Jamie Walker slip away after his 0.75 ERA season, he would be so valuable this year.
 
Goodnight, sweet prince: Doug Mirabelli was released by the Red Sox today. Kevin Cash(?!) will be his full-term replacement. As much as I didn't like Mirabelli, at least he had some pop to his swing. Cash does not. Mirabelli also knew how to handle the knuckler, that's why we gifted the Padres Josh Bard and Cla Meredith for his worthlessness. Cash did a pretty good job filling in for him as Wakefield's personal catcher, but the only difference between him and Mirabelli is power. Both are good for a guaranteed .190 batting average.

The only way this deal makes sense is if the Rangers are ready to bring Taylor Teagarden up to the major league roster, and the long-rumored Coco Crisp for Gerald Laird deal is about to take place.

In honor of Doug's release, relive three days of his life:
http://www.dougiesgoingdeep.com/
 
I njeed to join this debate....I feel that the Tigers are the most overrated team in the league...keep in mind everyone that they did add Sheffield last year and DID NOT EVEN make the playoffs...many of you will make the argument that oh no Rob....they added Miguel Cabrera, they added Miguel Cabrera.....BIG FRICKIN DEAL....he is one man...ONE MAN.....sure he is gonna be a trheat but the rest of the team needs to show up too and I still believe that they do NOT have enough to compete with the Cleveland Indians....the Indians came one win from making the world series last year.....so XFEAR even u have to admit that a 7 game series like last year means that the Red Sox and the Indians are pound for pound and very very similar....the Sox may have won it last year but take away Beckett and they lose that series 4-1. The Indians I believe have the best chance to beat the Red Sox and Tigers....because they have unbelievable offense and great pitching...Sabbathia and Carmona....plus Westbrook and Byrd.....but make no mistake gentlemen

I am still a hardcore Angels fan and they can easily compete with the Tigers and Indians...do not be surprised if the Angels win both season series from those teams because we still have superior pitching...great defense and stellar hitting...many of u baseball "experts" will say that "o Rob the Angels SUCK, ALL THEY GOT WAS TORII HUNTER"....well Torii Hunter is still a good hitter and I have faith that on days Guerrero is off, Hunter can back him up...he did hit 28 home runs last year......Matthews will rebound and hit for aeverage this year and Figgins is one of the best, if not the best leadoff hitter in the game...steals bases knows how to get on...the only other better leadoff men I see are Ellsbury and Sizemore....the only obstacle the Angels need to deal with is that damn team from Boston...if and I mean if the Angels learn how to beat the Red Sox, then they are a threat....they play the Sox six times this year at Fenway...if they go 3-3 at least there....thats considered successful. The Sox come to town on my 21st birthday and Im gonna go bet on the Angels to beat them...(Ima be in Vegas)....

so there u have it...my unbiased pick is the Indians....but I want the Angels to win it all as always...they will win the west.
 
Honestly I don't know why everyone is just handing the AL central crown over to the Tigers.
Yes they have a great lineup but that isn't what will win you a divison. Great starting pitching will help but even that won't win it for you. You need a solid bullpen throughout the year.

You need guys who can come in when you're down by 1-2 runs and keep it that way. The Chicago White Sox are my dark horse team this year.

I don't know if they'll win the division but I think they'll turn some heads. Check out this lineup.

Nick Swisher -LF -This guy has an amazing OBP and his power numbers are going to sky rocket now that he is out of Oakland. You don't need to be able to steal bases when you have a great number two hitter behind you.

Orlando Cabrerra- SS Gold Glove caliber short stop and an awesome number 2 hitter with some pop.

Jim Thome DF- One of the most deadly hitters in the game still. 35 HR and 90 RBI every year.

Paul Konerko 1B - A cluch performer and a great bat. 30 HR 100 RBI

Jermaine Dye RF - This guy is ready to rebound back to his career numbers as he started to heat up last year toward the end.

AJ Pierzinski- C Another gamer who busts ass on every play and a rare catcher who is also a good hitter.

Joe Crede/Josh Fields 3B- Either way you're good here. With Crede you have a proven player and with Fields you have a guy who hit 23 home runs in only 100 AB last year.

Brian Anderson- CF he seems finally ready to step up. He has had a hot bat all spring and his defense is top teir. If he hits 260 they will be fine.

Juan Uribe/Alexi Ramirez 2B- Everyone in Chicago is down on Uribe. I'll take 240 and 20 HR from my number 9 hitter. Ramirez is ready to hit at the big league level now but he just needs more time to work on his defense.


The rotation has questions as Gavin Floyd and John Danks need to step up. Reports out of spring training have them throwing the ball great but we'll see.

The real improvment for this team is the bullpen. Finally after 2 seasons the White Sox will be able to actually get the ball to one of the best closers in the game Bobby Jenks.

Having Scott Linebreink come in in the 7th and Dotel in the 8th is a setup most managers would kill for.

All in all though the Sox have a few question marks that might keep them out of the playofffs. But overall I like their chances.

My predictions.


AL EAST
NY Yankees
Boston Red Sox -WC
Toronto Blue Jays
Tampa Bay Rays -75 wins
Baltimore Orioels

AL Central.
Chicago White Sox
Detroit Tigers
Cleveland Indians
(All seperated by 2-3 games)
Minnesota Twins
KC Royals

AL WEST
Aniheim Angels
Seattle Mariners
Oakland A's
Texas Rangers

NL EAST
New York Mets
Philidelphia Phillies
Atlanta Braves
Washington Nationals

NL Central
Milwaukee Brewers
Chicago Cubs
(Brewers win by 1-3 games)
St. Louis Cardinals
Pittsburgh Pirates
Houston Astros

NL WEST
Colorado Rockies
Arizona D Backs -Wild Card
San Diego Padres
LA Dodgers
SF Giants
 
Someone should sticky this thread now that the 2008 MLB season has officially kicked off.

How's everyone feeling so far about their teams?

I'm very pleased so far with what I've seen from the BoSox (3-1). The offense has been alive and ripping through out the first four games so far, but the starting pitching looked a little suspect during the trip to Japan. What can be expected though from such a physically draining trip as that.

With Beckett still on the DL (he's scheduled to make his first start on Sunday at Toronto), Dice-K and Jon Lester made two starts apiece, one in Japan, and one in Oakland so far. Both of their Japanese starts were so-so, but in Oakland both were absolutelly stellar, with one run scored by Oakland in the two games against them.

One thing I found pretty funny is that the Royals just swept the Tigers today to open up the season. The same Tigers everyones been ranting and raving about being the team to watch this year, who as a team is barely hitting over .200. Not what you'd expect from the second highest payroll in the MLB.
 
Meh, it's only three games X. The Royals pitching in that series was stellar. The Tigers are very solid (outside of that abysmal bullpen) and will continue to put up alot of runs, but.....I still see the Indians taking that division as they just seem more solid all around. Also heard today Sheffield is injured again, figures.

As for my Rangers (1-2 :glare:), Meh, I don't expect much, never have since 04 really. Our top half of the line up is solid, everything else is just either crap or average. Our rotation is the same ol' you would expect from Texas. Anytime you have Millwood as your ace, not really anything to gloat about. Luckily the A's are terrible, and we'll come away with yet another 3rd place win probably while losing at least one big player due to a trade because it seems to happen yearly now.

Sad times....Sad times...

Also how about that Pedro? :lmao:
 
About the Tigers, as a huge fan of them, I will admit the 0-3 start is very disappointing but I will say that I would rather see them losing 4-0 and 4-1 than like 11-8 or something, because I KNOW the bats will come, I know we will put the runs up on the board, I just thing the team lacks that spark (Granderson on DL) at the top of the order to get everyone going, he is my favorite Tiger and I believe that his return could motivate the guys, cuz they just looked unmotivated, the pitching was solid in all 3 games and that surprised me, I think they'll be OK.
 
Yeah, there is no reason to go crazy because your team started off 0-3, I mean you play 162 games a season. I would be concerned if I were a Tigers fan though, not because of there bad start, just because of how horrible there bullpen is. Todd Jones has not been a good closer for a couple years now and after him they have nobody. They really need Rodney and Zumaya to get healthy and stay healthy or else they will be in trouble. I pick the Indians out of the central because they have better pitching and a better bullpen, but the Tigers will be in a dogfight to try to get the wild card spot, the AL is loaded this year and some good teams are going to be left out. So the 0-3 start is not a big deal, but one bad month could put you in trouble this year. So they cant let this become a trend, considering there bullpen will probably blow at least 5-7games this year for them.
 
When it comes to my team, I feel good about the Red Sox up to this point. 3-1 is a good start, Dice-K and Lester looked good in there last starts. Considering there division is so tough, they have to beat lower level teams like the A's.

I like the Red Sox pitching, I mean Beckett will be fine, Dice-K will be better this year, Lester and Bucholtz will have solid years, expect Lester to be better cause he has more experience, and Wakefield will give you what he always gives you, some great performances and some stinkers.

In regards to there line-up. Manny looks great, which is a good sign because he wasn't in tip top form last year. Is it just me or did Big Papi lose some weight? I hope so because he needs to keep his knees healthy, his shoulder is better so his pop should be back. There are two question marks I have about there line-up. First is there catcher spot, Varitek is getting old and not a great hitter and Cash as a back up? He is horrible, that worries me on days when Wakefield pitches. Then there is there center field spot. I loved Ellsbury last year during the post season, but he is a slash hitter, that worries me, cuz he will go through times were his normal hits dont find the gap and turn into outs. That why I dont want them to trade Crisp, he is too valuable as a fourth outfielder, and they really wont getting anything good for him in a trade.

All in all, I like the outlook for the Red Sox this year, of course it will be a tough division battle with the Yankees, but I am not sold on there pitching, and the Jays are improved, but they are not going to finish ahead of the Sox and Yankees. I expect the Red Sox to be back in the playoffs, then after that, it is a toss up, its really hard to go back to back, so I really just want them to make the playoffs and see how it goes from there.
 
now onto the rant about my beloved Pittsburgh Pirates.

Man, a 2-2 record, that'll be the only time they'll see 500 this whole entire year. They can't do anything right. Laroche can't hit, either can Bay. Jack Wilson is already injured, and Sanchez's shoulder is still sore. Xavier Nady and McClouth have to do everything by themselves. Nady is batting 500, and McClouth is batting around 450.

Their pitching is pretty pathetic, Snell calmed down after the early 4 runs. Duke looked pretty good the other night, he just got a little tired and he was left in a tad too long.

Capps can't locate his pitches and he is serving up some walks, their pitchers cant go deep into games and they cant afford that because their pen is so bad.

Hopefully Maholm pitches well tonight, but thats highly unlikely. But o well they've been losing since 93, so whats one more year?
 
I believe it's time for a rant about my beloved Tigers...

Dear Jim Leland & Co.,

Mr. Leyland, I would like to ask you why in the blue hell in yesterdays 12-6 loss to the Boston Red Sox, that you decided to use 3 relief pitchers in 3 innings? I wasn't able to catch the whole game, but why did you take out Beltran after 21 pitches and put damn Yorman Bazardo in there who let 4 runs let by and end the game. You were down 8-6 in the 8th inning, I believe you should have used Beltran the rest of the 8th just to give your guys a chance at winning.

Speaking of bullpen, what in the name of Ty Cobb is up with your bullpen. Sure, Zumaya and Rodney, your best two relievers, are out, but what your bullpen is doing is confusing. Wednesday, they were near perfect, yesterday, pitching as a whole was shit. Your bullpen let 8 earned runs go by, you walked 9 guys, 9 guys? Even if you walked 9 guys, you were still in the game in the 8th inning. Which leads me to my next rant, on your hitting.

Jim, I'm not going to direct this to you, but a man named Gary Sheffield. Gary, when it was 8-5 in the top of the 8th bases loaded and no outs, why did you try to kill the ball when a single or even a walk would have still made it a 2 run game. No, you ground into a double play and the Sox decide to bring in Pappelbon. We don't need you to give us the lead, we just need to catch up. Inge did it, Polanco did it, while you may be the #3 hitter, a Sacrifice Fly would have worked, because there would have been guys on 1st and 2nd with only 1 out, and Magglio was up. You made a very dumb mistake, and it costed you and your team.

I'm now ending my rant, and while I'm not a worried Tigers fan, I hope you guys step up your game in the next month otherwise you'll have some seriously angry fans, me included.

Sincerly,
RKO Orton.
 
The Tigers are doing exactly what I thought they would be doing...sucking...I know its early but I say this so many times gentlemen...ONE PLAYER DOES NOT MAKE A TEAM......Miguel Cabrera is definately the shit but he cannot do it himself...he needs the whole team to contribute...right now my Angels are 6-4...not bad for an injury depleted team...we'll see how things go.
 
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