Ok, i usually dont post forums that much but i feel i need to scratch a certain itch!
Next time use a back-scratcher, or if you're really desperate and it's in a hard to reach place, ask a friend.
Every day there is a new thread about how good ryder is, when did you start liking ryder, will ryder win the title soon, pfft who gives a shit
I'm not the biggest Ryder fan in the world, as I've said in full in the various threads, but I think quite a few people "give a shit" actually. I don't know if you remember the "We Want Ryder" chants filling up Madison Square Garden...but they were kind of a big deal. Also, at the time of my writing this there are currently TWO threads about Ryder on the Raw non-spam section. Pretty sure more Cena threads have been
deleted in that time frame...
I am not a big fan of Zack Ryder, i do think he has potential to be a main event player
So...you kind of "give a shit" then?
Why is no one giving dolph ziggler the credit he deserves
Every Ryder thread I read is split about 50/50 between people like are obsessed with him, and people that "don't get it, but respect what he's accomplished". Right now
everyone is on board with Ziggler. Haven't seen a thread post or talked to a single person who doesn't think ZIggler has what it takes to be a main event guy. If anything, Ziggler has probably received
more credit than he deserves...
dolph ziggler is easily the best thing WWE has going right now.
I might agree with him being the best thing going, but not the term "easily". At least not your definition of the word anyway... I think CM Punk has probably done a few things in the last six months to get at least a bit of recognition, and with Cody Rhodes pulling the best work of his career...it's not as "easy" as I think you want it to be.
IMO ziggler will lose the us title at tlc to ryder and ziggler will win the royal rumble
I wouldn't be surprised if Ziggler lost the title to Ryder at TLC. They seem to be building in that direction, and trying to make Ryder seem like a viable contender by giving him wins with some pretty high profile stars. So I'll give you that one... But I doubt very much that he actually wins the Rumble in 2012. I think he could come down to the final 2 or 3, but he won't win. Most of that guess is based off the insider info we have about a Smackdown star winning the Rumble, but that was back when Cena/Rock was supposed to be for the WWE title... I guess anything is possible at this point. Ziggler could potentially win and cash in on a Smackdown champion!
there is no doubt that ziggler wont win the rumble.
You may want to take a look at that sentence again...
We have had way too many returning winners in the last few years and way too many rumble winners losing at wrestlemania.
Cena and Edge both returned from injury to win the Rumble, yes. Alberto del Rio did not. Undertaker did not. Randy Orton did not. Rey Mysterio did not. Batista, Benoit, and Lesnar did not. And as for Rumble winners losing at Mania...I'm not really upset about that. I think it shows that they can actually book semi-creatively, and that the winner isn't always magically super-powered, and must win at all costs...
So my point is, what are your opinions on Dolph Ziggler? and do you feel WWE should pull the trigger and give him the rumble and wrestlemania push?
Love Dolph Ziggler. As I already said, I think he may just be the best thing going in pro wrestling right now... Great charisma, fantastic ring work for a WWE star, and only getting better every week. Should they pull the trigger, give him the Rumble win, and let him go to WrestleMania to face the champion? I honestly haven't given it much thought because so much else is going on in the main event spots...but yeah! Think about it, it's actually the perfect year to experiment with younger talent.
Ziggler/Punk at Mania would be a whole lot more entertaining than Miz/Punk in my opinion, and with Rock/Cena as the main event they don't have to worry about ticket sales falling through because they lack the "big title match". Punk has already proven by this point that he can draw just as well as the other top guys (or at least that the fans are going to watch no matter what...), and there's nobody else on the Raw roster I'd like to see get the shot more than Ziggler. If you have Bryan cash in MITB on the Smackdown champion, and Ziggler cash in the Rumble on Punk, plus Cena/Rock in the main event...that's a damn good card right there. So yes, why the heck not...
Sorry for kinda going off on you. You went to too many unnecessary extremes and Ryder didn't even need to be brought up to get your point across. A simple "should Ziggler win the Rumble" thread would have been nice...