Yet Another Unpopular Wrestling Opinions Thread

[Coco]

Using a measurement which included that information, Triple H would still do quite well. They moved a fuck-tonne of that 2006/2009 DX merchandise.

Big draw. Huge success. But I think his success is over-represented on Farmer's list.

What would be great is a measure which looked at the relationship between gates and more modern indicators of success and used that information to project how past stars would fare in those areas based on the available information regarding their gates.

I should really be studying.

 

[Papa Pillman]

I'm gonna catch some hate for some of these, but that's what this thread encourages I guess...

Brock Lesnar's ring work isn't sloppy, and it isn't more dangerous than the average main roster superstar, it just looks like it should be.

Conversely Titus O'Neil's ring "work" is sloppier and more dangerous than anyone else in the company, and he should be retained, but moved to a non-wrestling capacity before he quits dodging the bullet and severely injures someone with his "sack of potatoes" offense.

Speaking of- Sandow should be retained but moved to a non-wrestling capacity as well, as he is the blandest and least capable in-ring worker under 300 pounds on WWE's payroll.

Fans who still use the term "smark" non-ironically in 2016(especially to degrade "indy darlings" or their fans) are typically the lowest common denominator of human and should consider finding a new hobby outside of pro wrestling.

Two "fat guys" who "don't look like WWE stars", K.O. and Wyatt, would move the needle as champion more than Roman Reigns can or will ever be able to.

Wyatt and Reigns are the only "home grown" talents on the main roster who are relevant and worthy of being booked in singles beyond the lower midcard.

Jason Jordan has a higher ceiling than Chad Gable and will eventually accomplish more than Gable on the main roster.

No one in the business sells better than Tomohiro Ishii.

If they present it right, and don't stretch it too far out, Matt Hardy is a pretty good choice and should be an effective transitional heel champ for TNA.

Truth Martini has become more of a hindrance than an asset to the wrestlers he is paired with.

High volumes of super kicks aren't a bad thing and its not an overused move, I'd rather see people call for less closed hand punches than less super kicks(at least the kicks are a legal move and most guys don't look like shit when they throw them).

 

[Coco]

Jason Jordan has a higher ceiling than Chad Gable and will eventually accomplish more than Gable on the main roster.

I go back and forth on this, but I definitely see it. He's tall.

 

[Papa Pillman]

I go back and forth on this, but I definitely see it. He's tall.

No doubt. That definitely wasn't meant as a slight to Gable, it's more a statement on the future magic I foresee when I'm marking out for Jordan's hot tag offense. And yes, Jordan's physical stature lends to my prediction for sure.

 

[Coco]

Gable is shorter than Daniel Bryan and isn't a tiny luchador like Rey Mysterio.

Poor guy.

This is not an opinion

 

[Papa Pillman]

Gable is shorter than Daniel Bryan and isn't a tiny luchador like Rey Mysterio.

Poor guy.

This is not an opinion

Thankfully, the way Bryan's technical prowess and indy success eased the ability to present him as more credible than his size would normally allow, Gable has his background as an Olympian to hopefully aid his credibility when it comes to defying his height.

 

[Coco]

If that fails, we can't measure the size of his heart.

 

[BringThePain834]

I don't think this is an unpopular opinion. Not because people feel Rhyno should have stayed on Smackdown but because I doubt anyone else remembers this or has thought about it since.

Thing is that on SmackDown, Rhyno either had his own feuds and was involved in the bigger feuds in some way. For example, teaming with Lesnar, Big Show and A-Train a few times, and his own feud with Benoit. Point is, he was used mostly every week. When he went to Raw, all of that changed. He quickly turned into a job guy who mostly appeared on Heat and in dark matches.

I legit was disgruntled when they moved him to Raw.

 

[Bernkastel]

Thankfully, the way Bryan's technical prowess and indy success eased the ability to present him as more credible than his size would normally allow, Gable has his background as an Olympian to hopefully aid his credibility when it comes to defying his height.

That worked for Jim Londos, who was about the same size. How charismatic is Chad Gable? I have seen any of his work. How is he presented in NXT, does he have any presence at all?

 

[Coco]

Thing is that on SmackDown, Rhyno either had his own feuds and was involved in the bigger feuds in some way. For example, teaming with Lesnar, Big Show and A-Train a few times, and his own feud with Benoit. Point is, he was used mostly every week. When he went to Raw, all of that changed. He quickly turned into a job guy who mostly appeared on Heat and in dark matches.

I legit was disgruntled when they moved him to Raw.

We all have at least one of these.

I was convinced Triple H was holding RVD back on Raw in early 2000s and was dying for him to switch shows. I couldn't have been happier on the night of the 2004 draft lottery.

Van Dam never won the US Championship on SmackDown. He never even challenged for the WWE Championship. He somehow moved further down the card when he got away from Triple H.

During a year when JBL dominated the blue brand.

I was displeased.

 

[The Brain]

Thing is that on SmackDown, Rhyno either had his own feuds and was involved in the bigger feuds in some way. For example, teaming with Lesnar, Big Show and A-Train a few times, and his own feud with Benoit. Point is, he was used mostly every week. When he went to Raw, all of that changed. He quickly turned into a job guy who mostly appeared on Heat and in dark matches.

I legit was disgruntled when they moved him to Raw.

I get that. I play the what if game all the time. I've made threads about Virgil, Paul Roma, and Savio Vega. I was just messing with you about it based on the context of the thread. Usually threads like this go against popular opinion. I doubt many people have any opinion at all about Rhyno in 2004 thereby making your opinion just an opinion rather than a popular or unpopular one.

 

[Papa Pillman]

That worked for Jim Londos, who was about the same size. How charismatic is Chad Gable? I have seen any of his work. How is he presented in NXT, does he have any presence at all?

He definitely has presence. He feels natural when he talks and has a pretty humorous shtick. The building of the relationship between he and Jordan progressed in an entertaining way, Gable has been presented pretty strong and protected pretty well, and the NXT Universe eats him up.

The comparisons to early Kurt Angle go a lot deeper than just their Olympic wrestling background. He also seems dedicated and very made for the business just like Angle did, instead of coming across as a guy who picked up wrestling after his amateur career just hoping for a payday.

 

[Coco]

Usually threads like this go against popular opinion.

This thread has organically developed into a shooting-the-shit thread.

Such is the beauty of the spam sections.

 

[The Brain]

This thread has organically developed into a shooting-the-shit thread.

Such is the beauty of the spam sections.

Fair enough

 

[Bernkastel]

He definitely has presence. He feels natural when he talks and has a pretty humorous shtick. The building of the relationship between he and Jordan progressed in an entertaining way, Gable has been presented pretty strong and protected pretty well, and the NXT Universe eats him up.

The comparisons to early Kurt Angle go a lot deeper than just their Olympic wrestling background. He also seems dedicated and very made for the business just like Angle did, instead of coming across as a guy who picked up wrestling after his amateur career just hoping for a payday.

Good. He has a chance to become something more than enhancement talent then. From what I have seen wrestlers that can't get by on natural charisma can get by on presence. Whether it is their size, their reputation, or their genuine skill. If it worked for Angle it might work for Chad Gable.

Then again looking at Jack Swagger... I dunno...

 

[Lee]

I rarely enjoy matches now. I'm more for story/promos.

 

[Барбоса]

For an industry that has a lot of money involved in it, the standard of professional wrestling is and has virtually always been awful.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

The OP was wrong, this thread isn't unpopular at all.

 

[Dr. Mantis Toboggan, M.D.]

Hulk Hogan shouldn't be getting the treatment he's been receiving.

Bray Wyatt is so fucking annoying. I think he's the absolute worst character in wrestling history.

Miz should be fired.

Kane isn't that bad.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

The OP was wrong, this thread isn't unpopular at all.

Ya got it all wrong GSB. Nobody complains about The Young Bucks or Dolph Ziggler. We're hitting some foreign territory today.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I've got one. Anna Kendrick isn't as much of a national treasure as people make her out to be.

 

[BringThePain834]

I couldn't have been happier on the night of the 2004 draft lottery.

That leads to my theory on the Triple H drafted to SmackDown thing. I think the reason he was moved back to Raw so quickly is because WWE realized what damage he would have done to that roster, thus actually using their brains for once.

 

[Richard Blonoff]

Kofi should have been a Main Eventer by now.

He said unpopular opinions, not stone cold facts.

 

[Reflection]

The New Day's promos suck. They are entertaining only because of antics like jiggling their a**, playing the trombone and doing the stampede.

Jeff Jarrett was the most natural actor in TNA wrestling history.

I like Alberto Del Rio's promos.

People that insult Justin Roberts for being sad about the Connor issue, are the perfect examples of "WWE sheep."

Sting should wrestle one more match (if he thinks he is fit).

WWE is not clearing Daniel Bryan to compete because they don't want him to eclipse Roman Reigns again. I think someone mentioned it in the LD.

John Cena wasn't competing in the mid card to give other talents a chance, but so that people remember him as a generous person, after he retires, and to make people forget how he hogged the main event spot for almost a decade. He is also giving himself time before winning the 16th world championship.

Paige doesn't seem like a good person at all, and she isn't nearly as hot as people make her out to be.

If Natalya was really that good a wrestler, she would have been much more over with the fans, despite the limited opportunities.

Charlotte should squash anyone not named Becky or Sasha, within 90 seconds. Just like that. No roll-ups or anything, simply absolute domination. Flair can save his dirty tricks for times when those two are involved.

Hernandez should have become the TNA World champion back when he cashed in the FoF briefcase.

Summer Rae is the best person to have as manager, after Paul Heyman.

 

[Bagpipes]

- Dean Ambrose should never be the face of WWE.

- Adam Cole is the best "small guy" not currently employed by WWE. On the mic and in the ring.

- Corey Graves should be doing color commentary on RAW.

- Dana Brooke has improved much faster than any of us expected.

Although this one might not be all that unpopular of an opinion, wrestling and storyline wise, Takeover: Dallas is going to be a lot better than WM32.

Edit: TNA is complete and utter garbage.