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Constantine ran the gauntlet already. No need to bring it back. However, make the Elite Openweight champion defend it as constantly as the gauntlet dictated, but in a similar fashion to the Mayhem belt. When a dominant champion appears, give them an opportunity to earn another title shot, most likely Eurasian. If they win, they can drop the title or have it stripped or storyline reasons. Start cycle again.

Done.
 
I think Mayhem would be fun to have again not gonna lie. But what really need is to bring back the Swaggyweight Championship again.
 
Constantine ran the gauntlet already. No need to bring it back. However, make the Elite Openweight champion defend it as constantly as the gauntlet dictated, but in a similar fashion to the Mayhem belt. When a dominant champion appears, give them an opportunity to earn another title shot, most likely Eurasian. If they win, they can drop the title or have it stripped or storyline reasons. Start cycle again.

Done.

So essentially the gauntlet, but with rules that make more sense.
 
Constantine ran the gauntlet already. No need to bring it back. However, make the Elite Openweight champion defend it as constantly as the gauntlet dictated, but in a similar fashion to the Mayhem belt. When a dominant champion appears, give them an opportunity to earn another title shot, most likely Eurasian. If they win, they can drop the title or have it stripped or storyline reasons. Start cycle again.

Done.
When the champion drops the title or has it stripped how would we get another champion?

A Tournament every time would get old fast
 
Dark match to crown a champion?

I don't like it.

Well it was the method for crowning #1 contenders, but it was a method that could work better and faster than tournaments. They shouldn't be dark if it's a new champion, I do agree there obviously.
 
I'm not sure I like it for title contenders either

Have 4 people face off in 2 #1 Contenders matches an early round in a cycle (1 on Meltdown 1 on Ascension would be ideal IMO.) and then have the winners face off at the next PPV building up the match the rest of the cycle before the PPV.
 
I'm not sure I like it for title contenders either

Have 4 people face off in 2 #1 Contenders matches an early round in a cycle (1 on Meltdown 1 on Ascension would be ideal IMO.) and then have the winners face off at the next PPV building up the match the rest of the cycle before the PPV.
And who would face the champion at that PPV? :suspic:
 
Whoever wrote LeBelle vs. Mancini deserves a raise. Full thoughts when I'm not beat but this has been a great couple of shows.
 
Excellent discussion going on here

Completely disagree with this considering I fought for the exact opposite for like an entire month. Titus is established, we all know what he's about, so he doesn't need to be doing segments on both shows. He'll probably get something on the second show. If you start wanting every champion on the show just because they're a champion you'll end up with the same 5 guys doing segments like it was after Kingdom Come. It's been a massive improvement by creative with spreading out segments so you get different character viewpoints and it works best when you book guys on one show and have their segment on the same show. Mention him on commentary or book his opponent for Unscripted on Meltdown and have them talk about Titus and the title. No need to add Titus to the show.

I need to start repping so I can rep you. Bang on with this statement. And I must say the quality and consistency of the matches and shows has improved since the round before KC. Despite the internal issues causing show delays, creative has really been knocking it out of the park more so than not.

Interesting to hear your thoughts. We've been definitely making a lot of effort to spread out the air time and you lead the way on that front.

As a matter of discussion though, how many people in here would support a Brans Split for WZCW? Not saying that we are considering it BTW, just wondering if people would enjoy seeing that and what the positives / negatives would be.

It's been said enough so I'll keep it short. No. The roster is too thin and we'd see a lot of the same matches leading up to PPV's. I don't think we've ever had a roster big enough to need this.

Whilst we are on the subject, I believe there is a problem with the championships - that aren't the World or Tag Titles - and that is they don't have a true definition of who can challenge for the titles, and if they do, they aren't adhered properly. What is the difference between the Eurasian and Elite Openweight championships right now? One is held by Titus, and the other is held by Eve Taylor. That's really it, and considering how well Lee and I have been doing recently, how does anyone who isn't a potential World title contender able to defeat us? I understand how people are chosen as challengers, and I understand people can win a championship and get absolutely amazing with the belt, making it hard to challenge for it (a la Sam Smith), but like the brand split notion, there are other alternatives.

I think the Elite Openweight title needs to start adhering to its name, as originally intended in discussions. Make it a television championship, and have it defended on every set of shows, similar to the Mayhem title. Give people who aren't considered for a title shot a chance to win a title; give them something to work towards and hone their skills. Random matches and title contender matches every so often doesn't cut it. It also differentiates the European/Elite titles, and gives a proper tier system. You can also bring back the multi-man matches and throw everyone in an Elite Openweight title match, instead of forcing matches to happen. I know I say this very late in my run, and when I'm performing well, but I think this is the perfect solution.

There are other problems like the quality of feuds, and booking them without following the WWE-style of interference/attacks/interference/attacks on repeat, but this would be a good start to encourage people to join, and keep people around to have a fun experience.

It's the Sam Smith/Rush problem all over again. I really like your idea about the Elite Openweight being defended every round (except when put in tag matches, of course). I like it more than bringing back the Mayhem Title. Don't get me wrong I loved that title and the fact so many big names emerged from the division, but the roster doesn't need a third middle card title. Having the Elite Openweight defended every week challenges the champion and roster to bring their best, create more feuds, and would really help creative evaluate the RP'ers.

While we are openly discussing ideas, I think it's time creative opened the door to the idea of double champions. Like Rush/Smith from years ago, Eve and Titus are two of the top wrestlers right now, FalK and Lee are RP'ing well and should be in the discussion for WHC. If double champion is something creative doesn't want, then just have them drop the middle card belt if they do win the WHC. That way they get the opportunity to feud with the WHC, without having to drop their titles beforehand to do so.
 
Only thing I don't like about having the title defended ever round if possible, is that it does not promote story except for the champion. I have never been a fan of random title matches. I would rather see the return of the mayhem or a new Television title. If you turn the Openweight title into that, I think it damages the prestige of it.

I like the idea of titus and eve gping for the world title. We need some fresh faces and it always seems like the main event is about the title but I think some main eventers should be able to have personal fueds.
 
I like the idea of titus and eve gping for the world title. We need some fresh faces and it always seems like the main event is about the title but I think some main eventers should be able to have personal fueds.
I too like the idea of them RPing for the World Title. I think that after a particular fixed amount of defences, the midcard title holders should get a world title shot.
 
I read it last night before going to bed. Fucking amazing Ascension. And yeah, I'm going to give props to whoever wrote my match. I absolutely loved the story told in it. I feel like a lot has changed for the better since the last time I was in WZCW, where it was good but a lot of the matches did feel a little more mad lib than ones that actually focused on the characters.

I will probably eventually write up a full review for it, I think, but I am feeling a little under the weather, at the moment, so it may be a while.
 
Excellent discussion going on here



I need to start repping so I can rep you. Bang on with this statement. And I must say the quality and consistency of the matches and shows has improved since the round before KC. Despite the internal issues causing show delays, creative has really been knocking it out of the park more so than not.



It's been said enough so I'll keep it short. No. The roster is too thin and we'd see a lot of the same matches leading up to PPV's. I don't think we've ever had a roster big enough to need this.



It's the Sam Smith/Rush problem all over again. I really like your idea about the Elite Openweight being defended every round (except when put in tag matches, of course). I like it more than bringing back the Mayhem Title. Don't get me wrong I loved that title and the fact so many big names emerged from the division, but the roster doesn't need a third middle card title. Having the Elite Openweight defended every week challenges the champion and roster to bring their best, create more feuds, and would really help creative evaluate the RP'ers.

While we are openly discussing ideas, I think it's time creative opened the door to the idea of double champions. Like Rush/Smith from years ago, Eve and Titus are two of the top wrestlers right now, FalK and Lee are RP'ing well and should be in the discussion for WHC. If double champion is something creative doesn't want, then just have them drop the middle card belt if they do win the WHC. That way they get the opportunity to feud with the WHC, without having to drop their titles beforehand to do so.

Eve and Titus should get automatic WHC opportunities after defending their belts multiple times. Eve especially, she even has a win over the current champion. They could have the option on what to do with their own titles if they win the WHC...(example, put their mid card belt in a battle royal, tournament, 8 man elimination cage match...ect ect ect). Only problem is, the WHC always seems to be hard stamped in traditional WZCW number one condenders events.....like Gold Rush or Lethal Lottery. The WHC will be automatically tied up for at least half a season because of it. Personally, I love both ideas but if one were to push they could have a big network-like event outside a PPV like Evening of Champions. Triple threat champion vs champion vs champion for the WHC. The WHC if he loses is forced to take the mid card belt of the person who beat him.
 

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