FlexAmerican Dynamite
WZCW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
Yeah from the looks of it something really important was missed.
WZCW Discussion Thread
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You never told me if your sig came from Orange is the new black
If it is, damn good show, just got into on Netflix
If he's going to come into this thread with an incredulous attitude about his loss, I'm going to respond bluntly. I'm not saying what he did is wrong, but it was bold, and he's going to get a bold response. That's not being a smug prick, that's conversing with him in a way he'll understand.
You never told me if your sig came from Orange is the new black
If it is, damn good show, just got into on Netflix
I never saw you ask! And it is! And I too am loving that show. Such a rich cast of characters, and an amazing mix of humor and drama.
Also, Yoga Jones is the voice of Patti Mayonnaise, so that's cool.
Viola Moonlight
I'm Literally Just Here for WZCW
Okay - hold the fuck on. Let me deal with this as quick as I can:
A) Dynamite: what did we miss. PM me because as far as I am aware, we've covered everything.
B) Nightmare: I'll take the fall on the manager thing. That was my bad. And losses happen, even if you didn't expect it
C) Anyone talking about taking shit to PM - cool your jets right now.
D) JGlass: there is a feedback thread for a reason
E) Doc: That was J who wrote that
Kingdom Come & WrestleZone Weekend card previews to come shortly.
A) Dynamite: what did we miss. PM me because as far as I am aware, we've covered everything.
B) Nightmare: I'll take the fall on the manager thing. That was my bad. And losses happen, even if you didn't expect it
C) Anyone talking about taking shit to PM - cool your jets right now.
D) JGlass: there is a feedback thread for a reason
E) Doc: That was J who wrote that
Kingdom Come & WrestleZone Weekend card previews to come shortly.
Dynamite, if you're gonna PM him about something we missed, hit me up too. I thought I covered all the bases, but if I missed something let me know.
It wasn't a 7 way vote for Flynn. There were at least 2 votes for Hunter, therefore a close vote. Either way, I'm just arguing something that shouldn't be worth arguing. I just need to prove my alpha male dominance over every creative member.
5-2 isn't that close, Alpha Male. Though it is closer than 6-1, but not as close as 4-3.
Or, just for you...
FlexAmerican Dynamite
WZCW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
Infinity
Starving (Martial) Artist
I lost to the Bearded Gentleman in my 2nd match ever and it pissed me off. Mostly because I blame the loss on the fact that I was partnered with Jacoby Capone... whom I always thought was trash, but at the time creative seemed higher on him than me. But I shrugged that one off and won a 4 way my very next match.
Then... my soul died a little death. My very next match, I lost to Numbers. You think I was happy when my first singles loss came to Numbers of all people? I would have rather jobbed to Darren Bull than that whiny little bitch. I remember thinking how unfair it was that he got a chance to RP against me twice, with two separate characters, while I wasn't given even a hint of what was going to happen. I was livid, dude...
I was genuinely pissed off at that time... not at Numbers (although he is SO annoying), but with creative. So my big "Fuck You" to creative was to be undeniably good... not to bitch about it. 10 victories in a row and a solid showing at Lethal Lottery, I got comfortable and phoned in a comedy RP because I felt lazy and didn't know who my opponent was gonna be. And you know what happened? Sanka beat me. This time, I have nobody to blame but myself.
& now I get to vindicate that loss at KC5. My point is... if you're answer to losing is to complain about it, you will get nowhere. I never once bitched at creative over a loss. Not publicly, and not privately via PM either. I just used it to fuel RPs. Vega got more and more pissed off with his lack of attention, which was a very real feeling. Hell, I still feel that way now, but slowly I'm getting there.
I have all the respect in the world for you, dude... I honestly had no idea your record was 1-10. I don't know if I have the patience that you do to stick aruond and keep trying, but you can't let all that be for nothing. Keep picking Zeus' brain, I'm sure he'd be all for it... he's an outstanding writer, good storyteller, patient with his cronstructive criticism, and creative has an uber hard on for him, so he knows what they'll like. Nobody better to learn from right now than him, IMO.
And for the record... I have no idea what creative was reading. I didn't think your RP was outstanding by any means, but it was definitely better than Flynn's. To think that the vote was 5-2 is kind of baffling to me... but then again, what do I know? You should be 2-9 dammit! I get what JGlass said about 3 RPs in 1... but 3 bad RPs vs 1 bad RP... is the way I see it. At least yours TRIED to be creative. Flynn is.... ugh.
Get pissed off, and take it out on your next opponent.
Then... my soul died a little death. My very next match, I lost to Numbers. You think I was happy when my first singles loss came to Numbers of all people? I would have rather jobbed to Darren Bull than that whiny little bitch. I remember thinking how unfair it was that he got a chance to RP against me twice, with two separate characters, while I wasn't given even a hint of what was going to happen. I was livid, dude...
I was genuinely pissed off at that time... not at Numbers (although he is SO annoying), but with creative. So my big "Fuck You" to creative was to be undeniably good... not to bitch about it. 10 victories in a row and a solid showing at Lethal Lottery, I got comfortable and phoned in a comedy RP because I felt lazy and didn't know who my opponent was gonna be. And you know what happened? Sanka beat me. This time, I have nobody to blame but myself.
& now I get to vindicate that loss at KC5. My point is... if you're answer to losing is to complain about it, you will get nowhere. I never once bitched at creative over a loss. Not publicly, and not privately via PM either. I just used it to fuel RPs. Vega got more and more pissed off with his lack of attention, which was a very real feeling. Hell, I still feel that way now, but slowly I'm getting there.
I have all the respect in the world for you, dude... I honestly had no idea your record was 1-10. I don't know if I have the patience that you do to stick aruond and keep trying, but you can't let all that be for nothing. Keep picking Zeus' brain, I'm sure he'd be all for it... he's an outstanding writer, good storyteller, patient with his cronstructive criticism, and creative has an uber hard on for him, so he knows what they'll like. Nobody better to learn from right now than him, IMO.
And for the record... I have no idea what creative was reading. I didn't think your RP was outstanding by any means, but it was definitely better than Flynn's. To think that the vote was 5-2 is kind of baffling to me... but then again, what do I know? You should be 2-9 dammit! I get what JGlass said about 3 RPs in 1... but 3 bad RPs vs 1 bad RP... is the way I see it. At least yours TRIED to be creative. Flynn is.... ugh.
Get pissed off, and take it out on your next opponent.
Richard Blonoff
Make America Rassle Again
Unrest in the kingdom? Show must have gone up.
Heh. Can't say I expected you to suggest taking it to PM, but it's not that big of a deal, Phatso.
Love the Austin ECW promo. That shit is golden. When I don't know what else to do, I channel my best Austin and go for it -- even if it's just to get rid of writer's block and get some ideas down onto paper, which I'll use in the RP itself.
When I do use it though, I try to heavily focus on the character's actions and statements he makes. There isn't any action to pad the RP, so I always try to make sure that there's enough descriptive text going on to help the reader visualize it.
I'm a fan.
I don't think my RP was good enough to win, nor would it be fair. I sort of figured it would be an auto-loss.
Skairipa Matrix
3 Time Elite Openweight Champion
I understand about the manager thing, honestly I wasn't pissed about it. I was just bringing it up to point out something was missed.
I also understand just because I PM a member of creative a spot for my match I think of doesn't mean its gonna happen. But the fact the EXACT spots I thought of were used against me just came across as a big fuck you.
Another thing, since when is a short interview considered 1 whole RP? Yet the top guys in the fed write RP's that are twice or three times as long as mine was and they get praise out the ass for it. How is that not considered multiple RP's ever?
Maybe I just take this shit too seriously (which I probably do) but god damn it's hard to keep motivated and wanna stick with the fed when you have lost almost every match your in. I'm trying to stick with it and with KC right around the corner no way would I not RP for it but right now i'm just getting frustrated that i'm stuck jobbing at the bottom of the card.
I also understand just because I PM a member of creative a spot for my match I think of doesn't mean its gonna happen. But the fact the EXACT spots I thought of were used against me just came across as a big fuck you.
Another thing, since when is a short interview considered 1 whole RP? Yet the top guys in the fed write RP's that are twice or three times as long as mine was and they get praise out the ass for it. How is that not considered multiple RP's ever?
Maybe I just take this shit too seriously (which I probably do) but god damn it's hard to keep motivated and wanna stick with the fed when you have lost almost every match your in. I'm trying to stick with it and with KC right around the corner no way would I not RP for it but right now i'm just getting frustrated that i'm stuck jobbing at the bottom of the card.
Infinity
Starving (Martial) Artist
I don't know about anybody else, but I personally couldn't disagree with this more. I feel the Creative Team should be held to a higher standard than the people they govern, for lack of a better term. If somebody is being juvenile, it is up to you to rise above that, not lower yourself to it. That's just how I feel, though. I actually agree with Phatso about speaking to him privately about how he lost. You basically just insulted his RP publicly because the dude is frustrated he lost 10 out of 11 times.
Personally, if I were a member of creative, I'd thank the guy for his dedication to the fed and desire to improve while clearly explaining to him why I felt his RP was the inferior one... and I'd do it privately, even if he complained publicly. It's the more mature and professional way to go about it.
Then again, as I said before.... what do I know?
About matches not ending in DQ..............
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Welp, I guess I'm 1-3 now, team won. Even though my match ending was... Well... I appreciate the fuel in the coming fire for my KC RP.
(No, I'm not bitter. Loved the match, ideas are swarming, still reading the show. Good job guys!)
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Welp, I guess I'm 1-3 now, team won. Even though my match ending was... Well... I appreciate the fuel in the coming fire for my KC RP.
(No, I'm not bitter. Loved the match, ideas are swarming, still reading the show. Good job guys!)
FlexAmerican Dynamite
WZCW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
Take it from a person who has been in your position and just recently had creative forget something important it's not that big of a deal. You seem to be under the impression that because you don't have a monster winning streak we all look down on you with such disdain like you don't belong to be here. While I can't speak for everyone but I doubt that's the case, nobody likes a losing streak but losing to Flynn (no offense man) should light an alarm that you need to step up your game if you hope to be successful post KC.
I can also understand being dedicated and wanting to do better, nobody knows that more than me. I got by in the early days of Krypto with most not batting an eye to the character by just being obsessed with proving people wrong and being better than most give me credit for. For a while I was borderline obsessed with validation, but the opinions of the internet Fed is not that important. Your hard work will pay off eventually, no need to be angry.
Uncle Phatso
Mid-Card Championship Winner
You act like a elitest fuck a lot actually. So why is my calling you a smug prick a problem? Four dudes jumped down his throat over him being upset. That shit gets on my nerves. I know your all creative. But if one memeber is handling it, he responded back to J. And j was trying to handle it and was doing ok. You don't need to jump on the " hey I'm creative, ill stroke my e- ego and pile more bullshit on top of a powder keg".
It is to me... why was I always told to take it to pm, but when three dudes are going ham on someone for being upset it's cool. This is the shit that makes people leave. Don't sugar coat shit, but don't as a creative member tell someone that " shit happens bro".
Take that shit to pm, its what I do now.
All in all he should have won that match, I'm sorry. I'm happy with my situation, sucks that I'm not on the real card. First time for everythting though.
I have nothing against you, Phatso, but don't be a hypocrite. This is being handled with much more tact than any of the recent similar situations, some of which you were involved in.
If a dude is going to come into the discussion thread like that -- he'll get a response. I don't see anybody -- other than maybe one person -- saying anything out of the ordinary. We're trying to tell him to relax, small shit like this isn't anything to get frustrated about. I literally told him that this was not a big deal and that I understood where he was coming from.
For someone proposing to take it to PM, I'm pretty sure this post did nothing but cause an even bigger issue.
Uncle Phatso
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Me calling out harth on some bullshit is an issue? I had no problem with you three, u guys were actually trying to come across with advice. But to me, he came across with an attitude. Why was that shit needed.
Viola Moonlight
I'm Literally Just Here for WZCW
Well... on the bright side, at least we'll get a twenty minute discussion on the WZCW Podcast, coming soon! What day is that going to be, anyway?
Uncle Phatso
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Yeah, I do enjoy being able to hear that now btw.
To Nightmare:
There comes a turning point for everyone involved in efedding. That turning point is simple, either you understand why you lost, or you never will.
In its bare basics, the cold hard simple reality is your RP was shit. You should probably do whatever it takes for your RPs to not be shit. Typically everyone goes through this. Wins and loses don't amount to anything because once you get your shit together and the wins start racking up you completely forget how many you lost.
The flip side, is you never understand it. Advice is given, and you ignore it. Suggestions are made, and you ignore it. You just complain and complain and complain, until someone has had enough. When someone has enough you get into a quarrel. Which leads one of two options for you. You can either wise up and maybe listen to what people are saying, however harsh it may be. Or you can leave.
To Phatso:
When I came back I was greeted by a different person entirely. Someone who I believed had their life on track. You were awesome. Now all of a sudden all I've seen you do is complain about your character. Complain for other people's character. And take unnecessary jabs and potshots at things simply because it pisses you off. Stop. You're better then that and Nightmare shouldn't have gone public. His complaint is an opinion, either way you cut it, no side is right. PM should have been the way to go.
Truthfully I should have PMed this to both of you. But anybody who feels like they are going through a similar phase should read this. I've seen it time and time again, and the song always ends the same. Someone will call someone else a name, someone gets upset, and we all settle down and realize........
None of this is real, or that important.
There comes a turning point for everyone involved in efedding. That turning point is simple, either you understand why you lost, or you never will.
In its bare basics, the cold hard simple reality is your RP was shit. You should probably do whatever it takes for your RPs to not be shit. Typically everyone goes through this. Wins and loses don't amount to anything because once you get your shit together and the wins start racking up you completely forget how many you lost.
The flip side, is you never understand it. Advice is given, and you ignore it. Suggestions are made, and you ignore it. You just complain and complain and complain, until someone has had enough. When someone has enough you get into a quarrel. Which leads one of two options for you. You can either wise up and maybe listen to what people are saying, however harsh it may be. Or you can leave.
To Phatso:
When I came back I was greeted by a different person entirely. Someone who I believed had their life on track. You were awesome. Now all of a sudden all I've seen you do is complain about your character. Complain for other people's character. And take unnecessary jabs and potshots at things simply because it pisses you off. Stop. You're better then that and Nightmare shouldn't have gone public. His complaint is an opinion, either way you cut it, no side is right. PM should have been the way to go.
Truthfully I should have PMed this to both of you. But anybody who feels like they are going through a similar phase should read this. I've seen it time and time again, and the song always ends the same. Someone will call someone else a name, someone gets upset, and we all settle down and realize........
None of this is real, or that important.
Skairipa Matrix
3 Time Elite Openweight Champion
Now that I had a chance to somewhat calm down, i'm still pissed over losing and it doesn't help all but two people predicted i'd win, I think part of the reason I was pissed off was because I lost to Flynn. It's nothing against the guy personally cause he seems nice enough from what little interaction I've had with him, but IMO the worst RP's nearly every round are from Jimmy Flynn.
Plus I got pretty much the exact same reasoning for my loss to him this time as our last singles match of "both of your RP's were total shit but his sucked a little less." If what i'm doing now isn't working for me then I honestly have no idea what to change. I really thought I was on my game my last 2 RP's. Oh yeah and getting my ass beat in a squash match set me off more than the loss did. Still pissed over that honestly because it made me look horrible after the great back and forth match last week.
Plus I got pretty much the exact same reasoning for my loss to him this time as our last singles match of "both of your RP's were total shit but his sucked a little less." If what i'm doing now isn't working for me then I honestly have no idea what to change. I really thought I was on my game my last 2 RP's. Oh yeah and getting my ass beat in a squash match set me off more than the loss did. Still pissed over that honestly because it made me look horrible after the great back and forth match last week.
I can't really speak to any of that, as I didn't write your segment. If you want, you, Barbosa, and Miko can form a support group of guys who gave creative ideas and had them used against them. We'll let you use the AV room on Wednesday evenings after we're done getting high and watching Looney Toons.
One short interview is almost never considered a whole RP, but I for one hate when someone writes an RP where they just throw in a random interview just so they can find a way to talk about their opponent. It's lazy, and if you're okay with being lazy then that's cool, but don't expect to win with lazy.
I'd pretend to understand what you're going through, but I've always been awesome. In my first three matches I beat Johnny Scumm twice and then some other dude as well. But from what I hear, if you just keep trucking away you'll probably get the hang of it eventually. It worked for Krypto, it worked for Mr. Baller, and it can work for you too.
Elitist pig.
