WWE will always be > TNA

jscthegreat

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I know i seem biased towards WWE, but think about it. WWE has given us as fans so much. Excuse me the WWF. i can say from 1996-2003 we were spoiled with so much great storytelling, masterful character development, sweet matchs, and just great storylines. I know now that it's a child's product people disown WWE, but we still get amazing contest. Sometimes. Hahahaha. When John Cena and Triple H isn't shoved down our throats we still get good matchs from Dolph, Morrison, Swagger, MVP, Taker, Punk, Michaels.
Flip to TNA. They claim to be so great, think they're product is so amazing, and all they are is WCW. And not even good WCW, WCW a month before Vince bought them. All the old stars are on top, new talented is being pushed to the bottom of the barrel, and i'm gonna get blasted for this, but their matches are just glorified spotfest. There's hardly any wrestling, just a bunch of trampoline jumps as i like to call them. They still haven't solidified a golden era for themselves and they don't seem interested in doing so.
This is of course my opinion and i will respect yours as long as you respect mine as always. I can admit when i'm wrong so feel free to disprove me.
 
Ya know, when I first read the headline, I thought, "Yes, its 100% correct." Then I paid attention to what was on my TV screen. I remember back in the glory days, the 1010-1040 segment would be filled with the likes of Val Venis, Shamrock, Jericho, DX, Kane, APA, Edge and Christian, Hardy's, etc.

Now, in 2009, it has dwindled down to fucking Hornswoggle vs. Chavo Guerrero every week???? If that can happen, anything is possible as fas as the WWE/TNA competition goes.
 
Thank god there was a last minute score in the Monday Night game that I could switch to. I didn't have to sit through WWE wasting Bourne with 10 more minutes of chavo and hornswoggle. However, this is Raw, so I'll probably see the replay 16 or 17 more times before 11.
 
All the old stars are on top, new talented is being pushed to the bottom of the barrel, and i'm gonna get blasted for this, but their matches are just glorified spotfest. There's hardly any wrestling, just a bunch of trampoline jumps as i like to call them.

Though you made some valid points about WWE giving us great product in the past, I defiantly disagree with that the young stars of TNA are being pushed down to the bottom. The younger stars are being showcased more then ever right now. Matt Morgan is being pushed and groomed for the TNA World title. Eric Young is the leader of World Elite. Hernandez is feuding with World Elite to start pushing him to the main event scene. Samoa Joe is part of the main event Mafia, a group made up of nothing but legends. Not to mention AJ Styles will be getting a HUGE rub from Sting in the near future.

Now, I know MEM holds pretty much every TNA Championship, but this is only done, so in the future, the MEM will crumble only for the young stars to go over.

Now whether or not WWE will always be greater then TNA is yet to be seen. TNA is only 7 years young. WWE has decades over TNA. In my opinion TNA is doing great right now and are heading in the exact direction they need to go in. Hopefully within a year or so TNA will have a second show and hopefully one day soon go head to head with Smackdown or ECW.
 
Don't say Tna is like wcw because wwe is doing some of the exact same things.
Examples:Putting celebrities over your talent,same main event scene, and pushing guys that don't deserve it like a freaking LEPRECHAUN!
 
did anyone else notice that so far 2 out 3 main events from breakpoint are booked for hell in the cell and i would be suprise if we see a triple threat between punk, undertaker, and batista and my guess is cena, and punk win again, and this time dx wins. I am becoming less and less a fan of a wwe fan
 
Although I respect the TNA athletes, I have to say WWE at its worst is on par with TNA's best. TNA will always be the place where fired WWE employees will go to get themselves a push over the athletes who legitimately made TNA a functioning organization. I know they give people positions because of who can produce ratings and buys. But how will you know if someone can produce ratings if you don't give them a chance?!

I agree that the WWE product has been a little stale. I can't wait to see what happens with the ROH guys who want a paycheck and the TNA guys who are sick of Bobby Lashley and his ilk coming in and getting more TV time than them. I, for one, can't wait to see Danielson and McGuinness on WWE. I never saw ROH and heard a lot of you talk about them with a lot of praise. I think this trend of wrestlers applying for WWE will continue if TNA doesn't promote its homegrown stars quickly. The only thing TNA legitimately has over WWE is the Knockout Division, which keeps me watching. WWE's Women's Division sucks compared to what it was a few years ago. TNA should stay what it is: the Thursday Night "Well, nothing else is on. So....." show. If Spike TV puts TNA on against WWE on Monday Nights, it will lose.

End of tirade/high horse comments: TNA needs to promote from within. WCW died for a lot of reasons. One of them was not promoting its younger talent until it was too late. I think TNA can still stay on TV. It's a worthwhile company that can serve as the alternative and have its own fan base. It just needs to be smarter with what it does with its talent.

And for what its worth, Cody Deaner/ODB and Hornswoggle/Chavo should fight in a "Bigger Waste of Time" match with the loser working as Kanye West's PR rep.
 
"WWE will always be greater than TNA", yeah, like you have a crystal ball? Like everything WWE has done has been gold? Please, TNA is still a young company and hasn't established itself yet, just because you are a corporate fan doesn't mean you are right. People felt the same about the WCW/WWF wars, and what happened? For two years at least WCW was beating the Hell out of the WWF. TNA could grab the ball and run with it, especially if WWE keeps down the road they are on now, ugh!:banghead:
 
Its been generally accepted that Vince hasn't put out the best he could because there is no reason to. TNA isn't up to the task of challenging WWE for the top spot. And while they are on the downside there is no reason to believe that Vince can't bring out the best when he feels he needs to. Yes we have been subject to maybe one of the worst "feuds" in history with that little midget. And they have been doing that celebrity thing to death. But you can't deny the young talent they have and are starting to develop. Miz, Morrison, Kofi, MVP, Swagger, Legacy. With the exception of HHH, which main event player hasn't put young talent over? And look who's on top in TNA. So really we are on the downside here but the WWE will always be better. Just wait and see
 
Now I've got to say this, and some of you may disagree, and to those who do. Fine. If you look at where we are now TNA does more for wrestling than WWE does. I don't always tune into TNA. I maybe miss one show a week, and when I miss it I've usually got to work late, or I read spoilers ahead of time if I know I'm going to miss it. So I watched Matt Morgan vs AJ Styles a couple of weeks ago. For the first time in a long time I was actually stunned because the wrestling quality was far beyond what's contained in the WWE. Before they ruined themselves by taking the "F" out they did at one time do a lot of things right. Give us entertaining segments, and matches. They could get away with more being TV-14, than being a PG-Rated movie. PG is still "Parental Guidance" suggested but this is because they want the cartoon like world back, instead of the reality television that sparked them a boom period. Vince is ruining wrestling. You've got no reason to watch Raw anymore so you might as well watch Impact. At least you're going to get wrestling when you to tune in. Also TNA does a lot more for women's wrestling as well. First with the Knockouts Championship. Now with the women's tag team championship. All they need to do is build the titles right. And leave the titles alone. They've made it equal for both the men and women now.

And sorry to say but TNA is just an upstart promotion. They've haven't been around for nearly 30 years like the WWE has. TNA is starting to go in the right direction. Especially with AJ Styles as champion again. I happen to enjoy wrestling commentary where Vince doesn't influence what is, and isn't said. TNA is a great alternative, and as the years go on by TNA will get better, and will do things better than it did in the previous years. Vince doesn't always know best. Jeff Jarrett helped found TNA. He was destined for something better than to wrestle for Vince.This discussion of whether WWE will be better than TNA. Well all I've got to say is TNA is headed in the right direction. A lighter schedule is better for talent and when TNA establishes its own identity, and as a true alternative to WWE then more people will watch. You can't always depend on Vince to deliver the wrestling you want to see. Vince is killing his own flagship show because he wants something more than a wrestling show. The irony is people want to see a wrestling show. I don't want wrestling to be predictable, which Vince is making it all too easy to predict. At least you can't really say that with TNA. Well TNA may not be as well established. They do more for wrestling than Vince does.

So maybe TNA is 75% better as far as wrestling. While Vince is 85% Entertainment & 25% wrestling. That's the truth as it stands right now. TNA is better. As long as TNA gets it's ratings people are tuning in. The following can only continue for Impact because Raw is losing viewers.
 
I think it is premature to say that the WWE will always be better then the WWE. I mean I cannot see TNA putting the WWE out of business...ever, but at least TNA is trying. It offers a different product that the WWE and I feel that it is doing a good job in solidifying itself.

You don't need to compare the two. In Eric Bischoff's book he states that in the world of business if someone offers a similar product one of three things will occur.

You can be better than the opposition, now I don't see TNA ever outdoing the WWE, no matter how much time they have.

You can be worse than the opposition, which no one wants to be and is the reason WCW is out of business.

Or you can be different than the opposition, by putting a unique spin on the same product you can fight someone who has been around much longer then you have. And that is what I feel TNA needs to do, don't fight the WWE at a formula the WWE have down. Do something different and exciting that will draw in new fans.

TNA may never be better then the WWE but they can be different enough that one day the comparison will be difficult to make.

Just My Opinon
 
Well if you count the minutes of actual wrestling nowadays the C show of the WWE has more minutes of it and an hour less in duration.

To say the WWE will always be better is too profetic but also it can be very true. Think about it: WWE has 3 shows one which is more "Entertainment" than wrestling, which is th A show: Raw. Then the B show: Smackdown which is more about wrestling (and in my view the best of the 3) and ECW that is the C show and is for the upcomers.

Everytime Raw gets worse than anything and Smackdown starts risen from the ground and seems to claim the spot of A show (like in 2003 or 2007), they apply the Damn Draft an every single start that was starting to shine elsewhere gets drafted to Raw.

Say what you want but even with Raw losing viewers they have 2 other shows and unless the go all down at the same time, they have more opportunities to make it right than TNA has to take them down.

Believe me the day TNA gets really close to them, if Vince has to make HHH job Matt Hardy cleanly in a minute, he will do it, and when HHH sees this he will gladly do so too.

Vince knows that when the competition is heated, he has to do everything to get on top.

Man, Vince kissed Rikishis' butt for ratings, do you really think he won't go lower? think again.
 
I know i seem biased towards WWE, but think about it. WWE has given us as fans so much. Excuse me the WWF. i can say from 1996-2003 we were spoiled with so much great storytelling, masterful character development, sweet matchs, and just great storylines. I know now that it's a child's product people disown WWE, but we still get amazing contest. Sometimes. Hahahaha. When John Cena and Triple H isn't shoved down our throats we still get good matchs from Dolph, Morrison, Swagger, MVP, Taker, Punk, Michaels.
Flip to TNA. They claim to be so great, think they're product is so amazing, and all they are is WCW. And not even good WCW, WCW a month before Vince bought them. All the old stars are on top, new talented is being pushed to the bottom of the barrel, and i'm gonna get blasted for this, but their matches are just glorified spotfest. There's hardly any wrestling, just a bunch of trampoline jumps as i like to call them. They still haven't solidified a golden era for themselves and they don't seem interested in doing so.
This is of course my opinion and i will respect yours as long as you respect mine as always. I can admit when i'm wrong so feel free to disprove me.

I don't think TNA "claims" to be so great or better then anybody. If they do claim to be a great organization so what, it's not like we don't see or hear how WWE is the best thing in the world on Raw every 5 minutes.
I don't know how an organization can have a "golden era" when they have just been in business 7 years. If you actually watch Impact, you will see a so called "golden era" begin to form. There are new stars on the horizon being brought in and new stars being made every day in the Men's and Women's Divisions. It's easily to overlook Impact because you see Booker T, Steiner, or Kevin Nash in the ring for 2 minutes or on a promo for 30 seconds. Trust me, the new talent are now getting more exposure and television time then the MEM are.

I don't know how you can call an AJ Styles match or any X Division match a "trampoline match" I also don't know how you can be a huge fan of WWE if you are saying the product is stale, and that Cena and Triple H are being shoved down our throats. Triple H is one of the lead veterans and Cena is basically the Superstar of this generation. I agree WWE is stale, but don't blast TNA and contradict yourself saying WWE is stale. I'm not typing this to say "WWE Sucks" because I like both products. I take the good and the bad. You may be right, WWE is the top dog and probably will be forever.

I'm just glad there are alternatives out there. The same goes for UFC. UFC may be more popular than MMA, but there are still a lot of fans for MMA. Maybe not everyone loves WWE, or on the other hand TNA. Wrestling organizations aren't your wives or girlfriends. It's ok to look or even have multiple affairs with all wrestling shows. TNA doesn't have to beat WWE to be a good company.
 

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