WWE title tournament give WWE a chance to stop treating fans like idiots

[ASKane]

For 10 years John Cena has opposed every heel authority figure WWE has put on TV including Vince, Steph and HHH despite the fact that it is those 3 people who position him where he is and do everything within their power to keep him. This is one of the main reasons for the heat on him, because he is the companies pick despite fans, myself included thinking that there have been multiple guys more talented/entertaining who should have been given his spot.

In the past year Roman Reigns has been given this treatment, he was picked by the company to be their future leading man and as soon as fans read the first leak suggesting he was winning at Mania the crowd support began to change culminating in the Royal Rumble, since then he has done a lot to prove he is ready but will likely never win the support of the portion of fans who dislike the company guys who they deem unworthy of the spot.

So why not have WWE finally stop treating fans like idiots and have Vince, HHH and Stephanie acknowledge that Reigns is there guy and help Reigns win the title against Ambrose in the final turning heel and having Ambrose chase Reigns looking for vengeance similar to his feud with Rollins.

The authority figures in the company are backing Reigns massively off camera so why not acknowledge this on camera and instead of basing a feud off some stupid storyline have there be the realistic angle of Reigns being the guy the company are getting behind whether you like it or not. They will do everything they can to get him to the top and keep him.

So basically everything they've done with Rollins but with the guy they actually see as their future

 

[enviousdominous]

For 10 years John Cena has opposed every heel authority figure WWE has put on TV including Vince, Steph and HHH despite the fact that it is those 3 people who position him where he is and do everything within their power to keep him.

So you want all performers to only play roles that are suited to their real life reputations backstage? It doesn't sound like you're speaking on behalf of a personal preference, rather that you're suggesting that it would only be appropriate for John's gimmick to reflect his mannerisms in real life.

I don't think that Vince, Steph and the other one have to stress their power too hard to keep John in the top spot, from what I hear he's really not such a bad guy when you get to know him.

This is one of the main reasons for the heat on him, because he is the companies pick despite fans, myself included thinking that there have been multiple guys more talented/entertaining who should have been given his spot.

I think the main reason for the heat on Cena is that it's fun to hate on him. John does have a primo spot with the company, which lately hasn't dominated the airtime nearly as much as it did five years ago. When you have an asset like John Cena, you don't just give away his spot.

In the past year Roman Reigns has been given this treatment, he was picked by the company to be their future leading man and as soon as fans read the first leak suggesting he was winning at Mania the crowd support began to change culminating in the Royal Rumble, since then he has done a lot to prove he is ready but will likely never win the support of the portion of fans who dislike the company guys who they deem unworthy of the spot.

Never say never. Reigns is finding his mojo and I'm sure that those who don't like "company guys" will warm up to him eventually.

So why not have WWE finally stop treating fans like idiots and have Vince, HHH and Stephanie acknowledge that Reigns is there guy and help Reigns win the title against Ambrose in the final turning heel and having Ambrose chase Reigns looking for vengeance similar to his feud with Rollins.

You seem to believe that by presenting itself as a fantasy, the WWE is treating fans like idiots. I think even as a heel; having Vince, Steph and Opie interfere to help Reigns win would be over the top. Having Roman win the tournament as a face wouldn't be an insult to our intelligence.

The authority figures in the company are backing Reigns massively off camera so why not acknowledge this on camera and instead of basing a feud off some stupid storyline have there be the realistic angle of Reigns being the guy the company are getting behind whether you like it or not. They will do everything they can to get him to the top and keep him.

I'm imagining my intelligence being insulted by the authority coming out with every performer in the company as a means of displaying their level of support for that guy. Vince, Steph and Steph Jr come out with Roman to praise him up and down and reassure the crowd that he's their man, only to have to rush backstage so they can walk with the next performer and show the body language of "We kind of like this guy, a little".

I'm sure that the powers that be have opinions regarding everyone in the locker room, that doesn't mean that what's presented to the fans has to reflect that explicitly.

So basically everything they've done with Rollins but with the guy they actually see as their future

So basically; you think just running the exact same program as they've done with Rollins -- only using Reigns in his place -- is the only way to stop insulting our intelligence.

 

[Navi]

For 10 years John Cena has opposed every heel authority figure WWE has put on TV including Vince, Steph and HHH despite the fact that it is those 3 people who position him where he is and do everything within their power to keep him. This is one of the main reasons for the heat on him, because he is the companies pick despite fans, myself included thinking that there have been multiple guys more talented/entertaining who should have been given his spot.

I have to ask seriously who you think is more entertaining than John Cena? I'll be the first to admit his gimmick is a tad stale, but he has carried this company when others have up and left.

John Cena and Daniel Bryan are the only two superstars that when they don't appear you can get a refund. That is saying a lot about the fact they put people in the seats.

Cena gets a lot of flack but he doesn't deserve most of it. He's worked tirelessly on behalf of the WWE to promote the product, and I can't see him not ever being a part of it. Yes they have other talented guys but Cena has outworked and outshone them all for the better part of the last decade.

In the past year Roman Reigns has been given this treatment, he was picked by the company to be their future leading man and as soon as fans read the first leak suggesting he was winning at Mania the crowd support began to change culminating in the Royal Rumble, since then he has done a lot to prove he is ready but will likely never win the support of the portion of fans who dislike the company guys who they deem unworthy of the spot.

First of all Roman Reigns is not John Cena, and he will never obtain the heights that Cena has, so I'm not worried about him being a Cena V2.0. The problem with Reigns is not actually him at all. They tried to push him at a time when he wasn't ready, they also didn't as JH has said on many occasions realize just how popular Daniel Bryan was. The fans wanted Daniel Bryan, they didn't want Roman Reigns, and when the WWE went against their wishes the backlash started.

You can't push someone on anyone. Look at Ambrose, he's the most unlikely person to get over, he's nuts, but the crowd loves him. He goes about doing his own thing, and the fans think it's great. Plus there is a lot of fans out there who just don't like Roman Reigns for whatever reason.

Liking or not liking a wrestler is a personal choice, and anyone who expects you like everyone or just the person they do is an asshole and shouldn't be listened too. There are wrestlers I'm not a fan off, but that's okay, they have other's supporting them. That's why every wrestler on the roster is different, really no two are the same.

Fans also change their minds. I was never a fan of Big E, thought he was boring and uninteresting and I used to groan when he came down the ramp. They put him with New Day, and holy shit the guy has personality, he gyrates and that whole group is now one of my favourites. Maybe those that don't like Reigns will change as well.

So why not have WWE finally stop treating fans like idiots and have Vince, HHH and Stephanie acknowledge that Reigns is there guy and help Reigns win the title against Ambrose in the final turning heel and having Ambrose chase Reigns looking for vengeance similar to his feud with Rollins.

The WWE will do what the WWE wants, they are the people running this business, and I'm afraid what the fans want doesn't matter to them. It's pretty obvious with the fact that ratings are dropping like flies.

Even if Ambrose does turn heel, he will still get cheered more than Reigns. It's just a fact of life, he is more popular and has connected with the WWE universe in a way that Reigns hasn't yet.

The authority figures in the company are backing Reigns massively off camera so why not acknowledge this on camera and instead of basing a feud off some stupid storyline have there be the realistic angle of Reigns being the guy the company are getting behind whether you like it or not. They will do everything they can to get him to the top and keep him.

So basically everything they've done with Rollins but with the guy they actually see as their future

Of course they see Reigns as the future otherwise they wouldn't have used Bryan, Heyman and Ambrose to help get him over. He was the plan the whole time, Rollins was the heel, Reigns the face. It didn't work out the way they wanted it too the first go round, so we're back at it again. Hopefully for Reigns it will work out.

 

[LBGetBack]

Agreed. The most successful angle in recent years was Daniel Bryan vs. The Authority. The reason? Fans believed it. They thought that the Authority really DID view Bryan as a B+ player, and were holding him down. Then they kept pulling the rug out from under Bryan, kept him chasing, Stephanie seemed to take a special glee in insulting him(to where fans thought those were her real views), and the fans got behind Bryan more than they've gotten behind any wrestler since the Rock and Austin.

Reigns would work the opposite of that IMO. If pulled off right, he could become the most over and hated heel since.....HHH in 2000? Which in turn would make whatever face ends up going at it with him(I wouldn't mind an Owens face turn and push sometime next year) incredibly over.

 

[BestSportsEntertainer]

I would absolutely love this scenario. Face Ambrose vs. Heel Reigns (backed by Authority) would be story of the year easily.

There's only one problem though...

WWE sees Reigns as the next face of the company. There's zero chance Reigns is turning heel.

 

[Messiah]

I'm sorry, but considering the way a lot of wrestling fans act, they deserve to get treated like idiots. They're impatient, they're selfish, they complain all the time, they're perverted little virgins, they chant random shit during matches, they complain about the likes of Daniel Bryan, Sasha Banks because these foolish wrestling fans don't know how the business works.. They want WWE to strap a rocket to Sasha's back when they're normally against that type of thing, so i guess you can say they're hypocritical.. WWE should pay no attention to their fans, because these nerds will continue to follow the product and they don't deserve anything anymore... The fans have ruined WWE.. WWE doesn't care anymore because of you people.

Wrestling fans is the lowest of the low.

 

[kadroan]

Agreed. The most successful angle in recent years was Daniel Bryan vs. The Authority. The reason? Fans believed it. They thought that the Authority really DID view Bryan as a B+ player, and were holding him down. Then they kept pulling the rug out from under Bryan, kept him chasing, Stephanie seemed to take a special glee in insulting him(to where fans thought those were her real views), and the fans got behind Bryan more than they've gotten behind any wrestler since the Rock and Austin.

Reigns would work the opposite of that IMO. If pulled off right, he could become the most over and hated heel since.....HHH in 2000? Which in turn would make whatever face ends up going at it with him(I wouldn't mind an Owens face turn and push sometime next year) incredibly over.

If Reigns was to be The Authority's new chosen one, whenever he turns face it'll be huge. A HHH vs. Reigns match would be huge, whether it's at WM 33, Summerslam.

 

[ShinChan]

Though i would like this scenario a lot, yet it is nearly impossible as they want Roman Reigns as their face as soon as possible..... Plus if he turns heel and be in Authority, He should be booked as dominant heel unlike Seth Rollins.... I mean he should be booked as a badass heel who just want to destroy anyone in the ring.....

 

[Kodo Sawaki]

So why not have WWE finally stop treating fans like idiots and have Vince, HHH and Stephanie acknowledge that Reigns is there guy and help Reigns win the title against Ambrose in the final turning heel and having Ambrose chase Reigns looking for vengeance similar to his feud with Rollins.

So, basicly, if Authority for example introduces John Cena you want them to say: Oh, look, there is our corporate Champion and no1 guy that we want, lets aknowledge him and have some random face chase him for title.

I am sorry, but you do realise how silly that looks in keyfabe world of WWE?

 

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

I'm sorry, but considering the way a lot of wrestling fans act, they deserve to get treated like idiots. They're impatient, they're selfish, they complain all the time, they're perverted little virgins, they chant random shit during matches, they complain about the likes of Daniel Bryan, Sasha Banks because these foolish wrestling fans don't know how the business works.. They want WWE to strap a rocket to Sasha's back when they're normally against that type of thing, so i guess you can say they're hypocritical.. WWE should pay no attention to their fans, because these nerds will continue to follow the product and they don't deserve anything anymore... The fans have ruined WWE.. WWE doesn't care anymore because of you people.

Wrestling fans is the lowest of the low.

I don't know...soccer fans might hold that spot...and Habs fans....wrestling fans would be three from the bottom.

 

[Vanilla Midget]

If you really want to stop insulting fan intelligence, you wouldn't pair anyone turning heel at Survivor Series with the Authority. That angle, and the entire premise of a heel authority figure completely, are beyond stale and the well is bone dry.

Aligning Reigns with Triple H isn't what fans want, it makes Reigns into Rollins 2.0 instead of becoming his own character and developing. I think it's pretty obvious that someone is turning heel at Survivor Series, I doubt it's Reigns.

WWE doesn't do anything with the purpose of insulting their fans intelligence, they really do think that their booking choices are the best possible.

Turning Reigns heel won't change much, it won't suddenly imbue him with experience or take away the things you don't like about him.

 

[OYDK]

I'm sorry, but considering the way a lot of wrestling fans act, they deserve to get treated like idiots. They're impatient, they're selfish, they complain all the time, they're perverted little virgins, they chant random shit during matches, they complain about the likes of Daniel Bryan, Sasha Banks because these foolish wrestling fans don't know how the business works.. They want WWE to strap a rocket to Sasha's back when they're normally against that type of thing, so i guess you can say they're hypocritical.. WWE should pay no attention to their fans, because these nerds will continue to follow the product and they don't deserve anything anymore... The fans have ruined WWE.. WWE doesn't care anymore because of you people.

Wrestling fans is the lowest of the low.

I legitimately fear that one day somebody like you will attempt to shoot up a wrestling event. Such irrational hatred is reminiscent of genocidal thought in Rwanda or Nazi Germany. If wrestling fans are the lowest of the low, why are you on this site?

As for OP, I don't see how WWE is treaing the fans like idiots. Roman's their golden boy in reality... so what? Wrestling is a kayfabe world. Did you want Stone Cold to align himself with Vince because in reality, it's so obvious that he's the one they're trying to push? How about Cena? It doesn't make sense for Roman's character to align himself with The Authority, especially after Monday, none at all. If he were to turn heel, it would make more sense that he do it on his own and presumably on Dean Ambrose.

But yeah, I don't think WWE's treating me like an idiot just because they're giving me a storyline that may not fit in with reality. At the end of the day, this is still fucking pro-wrestling people, damn.

 

[Kurgen]

Turning Reigns heel won't change much, it won't suddenly imbue him with experience or take away the things you don't like about him.

Actually, it would change a lot. From justifying his heat and having it fit within the story, to having him actually get over with the fans.
Heels are much easier to get over than babyfaces, ask anyone.
I remember when Rocky Maivia debuted as a smiling, hand slapping, cheerful babyface. Didn't work out so well. But when he turned heel..well, you know the rest. Turning Reigns back to face would be easy too.

 

[rge2010]

WWE treats the fans like idiots because a lot of them are idiots. The 10%'ers also known as the IWC over analyse absolutely everything. I'm sorry but WWE is not rocket science, it is about making money.

The difference in opinion from a website forum like this and comments you see on social media are staggering. This place is an absolute cesspit of smarks who WWE really do not care about. The only time they ever listened is regarding Daniel Bryan in 2014. Cesaro, Ziggler, Punk....all IWC darlings but mainly overlooked. WWE is about making money and if there isn't money to be made off the very superstars the smarks want then they won't bother because you don't matter.

WWE is a fun product and it should be treated as such. It is dumbed down light entertainment that millions and millions of fans worldwide enjoy. Remove the dirtsheets, remove the forums and WWE is much more fun for a viewer, trust me I have done it!

 

[NatureBoy3:14]

The one thing I think a ton a fans miss is that they are not treating the fans as "idiots". They are treating like a child. Because wait for it.......... You are watching a child's television show. Over the age of 18 you basically...... Wait for it ........ Don't matter. They aren't targeting you to each. That's why Wyatts character "hokie" character gets over. That's why the ridiculous use of lighting and fire last week is done. That's why the tournament is predicatable. If you are over the age of 18 you should be able to see the outcome before it happens. If im sitting down and watching Sponge Bob Square Pants in suspense there's an issue. The issue isn't with the writing the issue is...... Why am I this old watching a product that is targeted for children. If I get angry at the writers there's a bigger issue that I may need to go talk to a therapist about. You may need to start thinking that you may have outgrown the product. Start watching NXT. Start watching TNA. PWG, ROH,NJPW are all wrestling products that aren't targeted for my 6 year old. Butch RAW is. You may get a sprinkle of Lesner, the Rock, Jericho but that's a treat for older wrestling fans. And honestly let's be happy they give us that. Reigns will win the belt. Reigns be pushed as the next Cena.He will not be turning heel. Not now, not ever because they are marketing him as the face of this company. Commercials, endorsements, interviews are all being fed to this guys. Why would they waste that money to make fans that are going to watch no matter how bad the product is happy. There won't be any swerves. You don't have to swerve children. They only way to change the product is stop spending money. Stop watching. Stop going to events. Stop posting on websites. Just stop involving il yourself with the product. But we all know that's not going to happened. It's a vicious cycle that we all find ourselves in.

 

[Mustang Sally]

So why not have WWE finally stop treating fans like idiots and have Vince, HHH and Stephanie acknowledge that Reigns is there guy and help Reigns win the title.....

That's what Triple H was trying to do Monday night in his segment with Roman Reigns, no? Instead, they chose to have Roman reject the overture and keep the storyline exactly opposite of what's really going on. Still, while I understand what you're saying, it seems to blur the lines between kayfabe and reality a bit. Sometimes, that's the way to go. For instance, the elements of reality that crept into the Edge-Lita-Matt Hardy program kept me glued to my set to see to what extent art was going to imitate life........and you can think of many other segments in which we honestly wondered whether at least some of what we were seeing was 'real.'

It represents what is probably the best part of pro wrestling. On other filmed episodic TV shows (and movies) we know it's scripted and has nothing to do with real life. With wrestling, we can't be completely sure.

As to not treating fans as idiots, I would say WWE's decision to keep Reigns from winning the title in the lead-up to WM31 was a big step in treating us as adults. Roman was the pick, they had been grooming him for many months, yet in the end were willing to switch things up and acknowledge the guy just wasn't ready. It was a giant decision.

If the company wasn't responding to the fans, what were they doing? They did the right thing, and now Roman is ready (imo) to be what they want him to be.

 

[Headman]

For 10 years John Cena has opposed every heel authority figure WWE has put on TV including Vince, Steph and HHH despite the fact that it is those 3 people who position him where he is and do everything within their power to keep him. This is one of the main reasons for the heat on him, because he is the companies pick despite fans, myself included thinking that there have been multiple guys more talented/entertaining who should have been given his spot.

In the past year Roman Reigns has been given this treatment, he was picked by the company to be their future leading man and as soon as fans read the first leak suggesting he was winning at Mania the crowd support began to change culminating in the Royal Rumble, since then he has done a lot to prove he is ready but will likely never win the support of the portion of fans who dislike the company guys who they deem unworthy of the spot.

So why not have WWE finally stop treating fans like idiots and have Vince, HHH and Stephanie acknowledge that Reigns is there guy and help Reigns win the title against Ambrose in the final turning heel and having Ambrose chase Reigns looking for vengeance similar to his feud with Rollins.

The authority figures in the company are backing Reigns massively off camera so why not acknowledge this on camera and instead of basing a feud off some stupid storyline have there be the realistic angle of Reigns being the guy the company are getting behind whether you like it or not. They will do everything they can to get him to the top and keep him.

So basically everything they've done with Rollins but with the guy they actually see as their future

First, how do you know that this doesn't end up with Reigns joining the Authority? Second, how does Reigns playing the role of baby face come off as treating us like we're stupid? It's obvious the WWE wants Reigns as a major player. And why shouldn't they? Internet fans aside Reigns does have all the qualities of a star. I think the bigger issue is the moment fans suspect a guy has been anointed "the next in line" they immediately turn on him. The same fans who went nuts for Reigns in the 2014 Royal Rumble booed the hell out of him in the 2015. Had Reigns won the 2014 Rumble instead of Batista fans would have loved it. So what changed in a year other than Reigns getting more experience, exposure, character development, etc? I know, I know. The heart wants what the heart wants. And this applies to wrestling fans too. But this irrational hatred for Roman Reigns is ridiculous. The WWE thinks they can make money with this guy or else they wouldn't push him. So they'd actually be stupid if they didn't try.

Now, with that said I do think they should have Reigns turn because that would be compelling television. It's not like fans who idiotically call for Cena to turn heel. A Reigns turn would make sense. Everything Triple H said resonates because it's true to Roman Reigns' story. Not being able to do what ever it takes has always ended up with him coming up short. And it's not like rule breaking and selling out isn't in his DNA. We're two years removed from a heel Shield faction that were hired henchmen. If Cena turns heel it has major ramifications that wouldn't be justified by the short term interest it would generate. But that isn't who Roman Reigns is. Not yet anyway. I personally believe an initial WWE title reign as a heel would give him a chance to show parts of his personality that the smarks could embrace. But that's just an opinion. Not a ridiculous declaration of my "All knowingness" that seems to plague internet forums.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I'm sorry, but considering the way a lot of wrestling fans act, they deserve to get treated like idiots. They're impatient, they're selfish, they complain all the time, they're perverted little virgins, they chant random shit during matches, they complain about the likes of Daniel Bryan, Sasha Banks because these foolish wrestling fans don't know how the business works.. They want WWE to strap a rocket to Sasha's back when they're normally against that type of thing, so i guess you can say they're hypocritical.. WWE should pay no attention to their fans, because these nerds will continue to follow the product and they don't deserve anything anymore... The fans have ruined WWE.. WWE doesn't care anymore because of you people.

Wrestling fans is the lowest of the low.

I do agree, to some degree, that a lot of wrestling fans do behave like idiots. Many are indeed impatient, selfish, spoiled and don't treat wrestlers or wrestling in & of itself with any real degree of respect. There are times in which the antics of the live crowd have been a total turn off and have made me genuinely embarrassed to be a wrestling fan. In this day & age, there seems to be this sense of entitlement to immediate gratification, to have every whim catered to and every little fantasy made into reality no matter how off the wall it may be. There also seems to be this jaded mentality that goes with unrealistic expectations. In his promo Monday night when addressing Roman Reigns, Triple H spoke some rock solid gospel when he said that people were going to criticize no matter what, that they were going to complain regardless of what went down and that's entirely true. That's not to say that there aren't genuine issues that deserve to be criticized or pointed out, because there are, but it's never going to be this perfect storm in which everything works out exactly as those fans want it to.

The case of Daniel Bryan is a unique one in the sense that he's had about as close to universal appeal as it's possible to get. Casual fans, average fans, hardcore fans, men, women, kids, all age demographics, etc. rallied around him in such huge numbers that not pushing him meant derailing WrestleMania itself. What sidelined Daniel Bryan was injury related, it had nothing whatsoever to do with any sort of business shortcomings as his matches/segments were often the most watched part of Raw or SmackDown and his merchandise was second only to John Cena. Some fans aren't into Bryan, that's a given for ANY wrestler no matter what, but he had the talent, the passion, the work ethic and, most importantly, the connection with fans.

Vince McMahon has long felt that only a certain, specific "type" of guy should be at the top of the heap; what many fans have railed against is that they're not as interested in Vince's "type" as they may have been 15+ years ago. Roman Reigns has all the cosmetic tools that Vince himself deeps of upmost importance, the problem is that the roster is packed with other professional wrestlers that are, in my opinion and the opinion of a lot of people, simply much better than Reigns is. Many of those fans see Reigns as Vince's attempt at the next John Cena and said fans don't want another 10+ years of seeing virtually the same sort of formula as their tastes have changed while Vince's hasn't.

As for John Cena, I agree with others that his schtick is stale and has been for quite a while. However, I've enjoyed him far more in the US title picture than I have in years and as much as it absolutely kills some people to admit it, John Cena's one helluva professional wrestler. All the "you can't wrestle" bullshit is simply that, 100% Grade A bullshit because he's proven that he can in fact wrestle near incalculable times with as broad a variety of opponents as possible. I do believe that Cena has been overexposed at the top spot, I do believe that Vince should've put more of his eggs in a variety of other baskets instead of putting nearly all of them with Cena and that's the sort of booking mentality that some fans are railing against.

A lot of fans don't necessarily want to be told who they're supposed to embrace and who they're not. As someone that's a fan, it does strike me as good business to embrace those who fans have embraced because fans are where the money comes from. It strikes me as counterproductive as a promoter to push someone that you prefer instead of someone that more fans are invested in.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

Everyone is missing one crucial thing... Trips has earned a "let's try this!" moment...

Everyone assumes Reigns is gonna get it cos we've been told ad nauseum that he is the pick... Vince's pick...

Look at who is left in the tourney - ADR wins, he's a Trips pick since day one... Owens... same... Ambrose, ditto... indeed the only ones who ain't are Ziggler and Cody... wake up call neither are winning...

This is the perfect time for Trips to go out on a limb and say to Vince, "that guy who you said didn't connect? Cesaro...lets try it... like you tried Bret...if the live crowd shit on it, send Sheamus in... but if they DON'T... go with it for 3 months... we can always do a Rumble screwjob..." Right now, in honesty, Cesaro is a bigger favourite than you think..

 

[FreezeIzGAWD]

First off I want to say What's up to my Girlfriend Mustang Sally.

I love U Baby.

It's been a while but I am back to enlighten you guys as ALWAYS. I see that it is hard for you to understand but Vince has become MEGA RICH promoting a certain type of athlete or star. Bruno, Billy Graham, Bob Backland, Hulk, Savage, Warrior, yep even Stone and the Rock are all his type of star.

Huge muscles with movie star looks.

Two guys fit that role right now Cena and Reigns.

Sorry but the people who root for Ziggler, Ryder, and all the spot monkeys are actually the MINORITY and you can't make money by making the minority your PRINCIPLE MARKET.

The funny thing is Reign has not done anything to warrant so much hatred. It's rather amusing. You guys say he is Cena 2.0 but why? There is absolutely no comparison. I have always said let the kid get his chance and see what he can do.

Nope we are going to destroy him BEFORE he gets a shot and then complain that there aren't any knew stars. You guys are talking you don't want ten more years of a Cena clone. Well sorry but the 8 year old kid in the stand draped in all his merchandise might.

I think Reigns should win the title AND stay a baby face.

Why keep changing plans because a bunch of Nerds cry that some obscure guy from Nobody cares Wrestling Association doesn't get a World title in his first 6 weeks. I am laughing that people are still mad and screaming KO got buried and he is IC champ less that 6 months of his WWE debut.

You nerds will NEVER be happy. So why appeal to you NERDS?

 

[Navi]

Everyone is missing one crucial thing... Trips has earned a "let's try this!" moment...

Everyone assumes Reigns is gonna get it cos we've been told ad nauseum that he is the pick... Vince's pick...

Look at who is left in the tourney - ADR wins, he's a Trips pick since day one... Owens... same... Ambrose, ditto... indeed the only ones who ain't are Ziggler and Cody... wake up call neither are winning...

This is the perfect time for Trips to go out on a limb and say to Vince, "that guy who you said didn't connect? Cesaro...lets try it... like you tried Bret...if the live crowd shit on it, send Sheamus in... but if they DON'T... go with it for 3 months... we can always do a Rumble screwjob..." Right now, in honesty, Cesaro is a bigger favourite than you think..

Do you really think they would do something like that this close to the Rumble and Mania though? With a lot of the top names out Orton, Bryan, Rusev, Rollins and Cena (for the next few weeks), I'm thinking that now is the time for them to put their ducks in a row and get ready for the big event in April.

Tickets are already on sale, and would a Cesaro win right now ensure that people would continue buying? I'm not so sure. If this had happened earlier in the year and they had time to build it, then maybe, but this close to Mania yea maybe not.

 

[Noshowers]

You'd have thought the WWE would have learned from what happened with the Rock to see how to proceed here. Rocky Maivia utterly and completely failed despite his big push to the point of extreme anger, so he was repackaged and became heel...which essentially saw him as the corporate champ.

Just do something similar with Reigns. Heck even acknowledge his cousin did that so he is taking the shortcut, etc etc. Get him exposure and gives him a chance for redemption down the line and a match with HHH or even the Rock himself to snap him out of it.

The difference here is Dwayne ended up being fairly charismatic and entertaining enough in his own right (especially on the mic which Reigns still needs work on) but that didn't hurt Rocky one bit.

Reigns being the face of the company can still happen in the future, but he experienced Maivia type rejection here. There shouldn't be a coronation, there should be a struggle here. He got so close so he snapped and took that shortcut. He'll hold the be;t for a while, eventually a fan favorite will take him down, then he can redeem himself.

I would much rather see this then a Star Wars Medal ceremony at Survivor Series with the WWE thinking we will just welcome him as a hero

 

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This tournamet is a way to generat interest in a declining prodcut and what better way to do that then to have a huge angle at the end of the show.

The tournament should go as planned with Roman Reigns facing Ambrose n the finale with Reigns getting the clean win.

Out comes HHH who states that Roman has one more match before he is crowned champion and that match is against someone who understands what it is like to be champion and who was smart enough to take hm up on his offer and that man is John Cena.

Out comes Cena who has made a deal with the devil in HHH and they shake hands and Cena goes to the ring to face an exhausted Reigns. Towards the end of the match there is a ref bump, and HHH gets in the ring and hits CENA with a chair and pedigrees him and looks at Reigns and they both smile and Reigns pins Cena for the title and is not the uncompromised champion who wwen thru the tournament on his own and defeated Cean for good measure.

Cena leaves again to finish his responsibilities and comes back in mid December hell bent on getting even with HHH and Reigns.

This would also leave an interesting dynamic between the fans and Cena since he theoretically turned his back on them to join forces with HHH only to be screwed over.

Monday Night Football ends in late December so the WWE needs people to start taking their product seriously again or the road to Wrestlemania will have a lot less people traveling on it.