simple, have an 8 man MITB style match at Wrestlemania XXX, instead of a suitcase, their is the WWE Intercontinental title hanging from the rafters. At ringside,. all the living former IC title holders sitting ringside, guys like Bret, Shawn, Warrior, Steamboat, Jericho etc, make the match have a huge feel of importance. Obviously, going on current holders, Big E Langston and Dean Ambrose in the match, add Seth Rollins, The Miz, Dolph Ziggler, Kofi Kingston, Bray Wyatt and say Sin Cara or Bad News Barrett. Have this match be of improtance on the card, have the announcers selling the fuck out of the match, the title, its lineage, its improtance to elevating the champion to the World Title picture.......donme properly, and theyn have IC Matches only with guys who can wrestle, like a TV title, and get prestige back to the belt. Keep women, immoble prats etc away from the title scene
WWE Teasing Unifying US & IC Titles?
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Jack-Hammer
YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!!!!
If WWE ultimately goes forward with this idea, I see them keeping the Intercontinental Championship. As has been stated, the IC title is a WWE creation and, as a result, it's generally the one that's usually portrayed in a more important light.
Dean Ambrose's suggestion of merging the two titles, retiring them and then creating a brand new title is kind of intriguing, to me at least. Creating a brand new mid-card championship, possibly resulting in a secondary mid-card title at a later time, could give a sense of freshness however shortly lived. Since this new title will have been created by merging the mid-card titles of the top two promotions, both with decades of lineages, WWE could name it the Heritage Championship, or something along those lines.
No matter what, everyone will never be 100% satisfied with how this new mid-card title is portrayed or used. Even if it's the IC title that's kept, you'll still hear the usual complaints from time to time about the title not being defended enough, promoted enough, pushed enough, etc. Sometimes the complaints are valid and sometimes it's just the usual nitpicking.
Dean Ambrose's suggestion of merging the two titles, retiring them and then creating a brand new title is kind of intriguing, to me at least. Creating a brand new mid-card championship, possibly resulting in a secondary mid-card title at a later time, could give a sense of freshness however shortly lived. Since this new title will have been created by merging the mid-card titles of the top two promotions, both with decades of lineages, WWE could name it the Heritage Championship, or something along those lines.
No matter what, everyone will never be 100% satisfied with how this new mid-card title is portrayed or used. Even if it's the IC title that's kept, you'll still hear the usual complaints from time to time about the title not being defended enough, promoted enough, pushed enough, etc. Sometimes the complaints are valid and sometimes it's just the usual nitpicking.
Sid Schmid
Pre-Show Stalwart
To be honest I think they should unify the IC and US titles. When was the last time there was even a US title match let alone a feud over the belt ? At the moment it's just a prop that Ambrose carries around.
If they run with a Big E/Ambrose feud then I think Big E will win, he's the one that WWE see main event potential in
If they run with a Big E/Ambrose feud then I think Big E will win, he's the one that WWE see main event potential in
Softcore Holly
Only Holly to never hold HC title
Better question would be why not put the title in a feud instead of just getting rid of it? That way it stops being a prop and we get something great to watch instead of the...well absolutely nothing we would get if the title was gone.
Richard Blonoff
Make America Rassle Again
When was the last time Ambrose defending the US title? I can't recall it. Honestly that belt has been nothing more than a shiny prop for the last couple of years so it could be done away with no issue, though I don't think it will instantly restore glory to the IC title, which is the likely choice to stick around if they do away with a title or unify the two since it has the WWE history.
I can't help but feel any sort of unification storyline will just serve as a short term boost to the title, much like most recent wins. Each time the IC title has changed hands in recent years the winner gets a decent initial push before falling back into obscurity.
I can't help but feel any sort of unification storyline will just serve as a short term boost to the title, much like most recent wins. Each time the IC title has changed hands in recent years the winner gets a decent initial push before falling back into obscurity.
MizisAwesome
Occasional Pre-Show
I could go either way on it. As it is now, there's not too much allure with the titles and they get often forgotten about for PPVs and other storylines. With one title it could actually give some value to being the #1 contender for some good triple thread matches etc. Each one could get a PPV match for #2 contender and the current #1 gets a match on the PPV as well. However, I'm not sure if they can build up 3 or 4 non-title feuds at one time. 5 hours of TV time will help each week, but it might get too watered down.
I do agree that more than one midcard title is needed. However, in regards to the Intercontinental and United States Championships, they kind of have to be unified at this point.
Some will suggest that the United States Title be used as a tertiary belt similar to the European Championship or WCW's Television Championship, but the problem with that is The U.S. Title has been written into a corner. The current champion Dean Ambrose has been pushed so hard as part of the Shield that none of the lower midcarders who "should" be fighting for the title can be a credible threat to him. They'd have to rely on former world champions like Henry, Ziggler, and Miz to give Ambrose viable competition, so it would still be like having two upper midcard titles.
It's best to start over by bringing in a new title, or bringing back an old one like the European Title, so that the lower midcard guys have a belt that they can realistically win.
Some will suggest that the United States Title be used as a tertiary belt similar to the European Championship or WCW's Television Championship, but the problem with that is The U.S. Title has been written into a corner. The current champion Dean Ambrose has been pushed so hard as part of the Shield that none of the lower midcarders who "should" be fighting for the title can be a credible threat to him. They'd have to rely on former world champions like Henry, Ziggler, and Miz to give Ambrose viable competition, so it would still be like having two upper midcard titles.
It's best to start over by bringing in a new title, or bringing back an old one like the European Title, so that the lower midcard guys have a belt that they can realistically win.
I agree totally. They need to make the mid card mean something again. I believe the last time I recall Ambrose defend his title was in OCTOBER against Big E which is ridiculous how the title turned into a decoration rather than something that means something.
Unification match at Royal Rumble is needed.
Funny thing is, Big E was booked to face Curtis Axel for the IC title he later won on RAW, Axel got injured before the PPV show and Big E was moved to a program with Ambrose instead.
Right now,the US title is a prop and either needs to be taken off or given a story and what better way than to use it when the Shield break's up to elevate Roman Reigns.
Softcore Holly
Only Holly to never hold HC title
I'm sure they're saving it for Reigns. Of course that's no excuse for ignoring the US title the way they've did, but a US title feud between Ambrose and Reigns should be great. And of course while that's going on if Big E is doing worthwhile things with the IC title at the same time then that's just great for the titles and for us.
Cody Trail
Occasional Pre-Show
I like the idea of WWE creating a brand new secondary championship from scratch. In my opinion, they should create the WWE Television Championship, and use it as the title most prominently defended live on Raw or tapings of SmackDown, whereas the WWE World Heavyweight Championship is solely defended on PPVs. If TNA,WCW, and ECW could all have a Television Championship, I don't see why WWE couldn't have one as well.
Just my two cents.
Just my two cents.
As has been said, both Big E Langston and Roman Reigns seem to be the ones getting the major pushes, as can be observed even by the Xmas shows. Whilst both Ambrose and Rollins were hit with finishers and were pinned, Roman Reigns has been left looking strong each show.
So the thought of them both having the Mid Card titles around their waist makes sense if there is any chance of them being elevated, and in the event of the titles being unified eventually as has been teased, the thought of a Post-Wrestlemania feud with Big E and Roman Reigns being given the responsibility of merging the titles is quite interesting I must say. If done right it can bring the WWE programming and storylines up a few notches, I have to say whilst still allowing the 2 guys to grow rather than being thrown into a Main Event scene already containing John Cena,Batista,Randy Orton, CM Punk,Daniel Bryan and Sheamus and a couple others who flit in and out.
WWE has no reason to rush either Big E or Roman Reigns into the Main Event just yet, in light of Batista's impending return.
Landen Swain
Dark Match Jobber
This would be an excellent move by WWE because, lets be honest, its lost a lot of legitimacy. Santino Marella is the best example of how illegitimate the mid card titles are, the guy is a joke and a disrespect to what wrestling used to be. If WWE wants to legitimize it again the unification would be excellent, but its not only that, its who holds it. Winning the unified title would help the career of whoever got it, why not any member of the shield, Cody Rhodes, Ziggler, Christian, Wade Barrett, Swagger, Cesaro, an NXT talent like Zayn, Neville, or Mason Ryan, or a returning guy like Ezekiel Jackson (all he needs is a push and he could pull it off, probably as heel). WWE revived the tag division, now it needs to revive the mid card picture.
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
Poor idea. now that the WHC is gone, there is less for people to work towards as it is, and I think the roster and amount of TV time there is to fill supports keeping two upper-mid card titles.
Now to make these INTO "upper mid card" titles, that is another question.
Now to make these INTO "upper mid card" titles, that is another question.
rocksaviour
True Champion!
There is a lot of TV time to fill and I wouldn't want them to unify the mid-card titles. If they did that would mean 3 male titles across the board, 4 is the right sort of number. The IC title should be for the guys that have main event potential or the utter highlight of a wrestler's career (see Perfect or Piper) and the US title can be for real newcomers, like it was when Cesaro or Bryan won it or even for a comedy act who will and never should be near the IC title.
jsnsince89
The Heartbreak Kid!
With out doubt the IC Title has every chance to regain its former glory as WWE's Secondary Championship and a Title for future stars to don. However, in order for it to claim its past recognition, it needs to be defended in matches/storylines like the following...
[YOUTUBE]http://youtu.be/ZDhSV-_nGLw[/YOUTUBE]
As for the U.S Title, what's with the hate? Why can't this be the low-mid card title that can be defended in them matchcard fillers on SuperStars, NXT and RAW/SD?
[YOUTUBE]http://youtu.be/ZDhSV-_nGLw[/YOUTUBE]
As for the U.S Title, what's with the hate? Why can't this be the low-mid card title that can be defended in them matchcard fillers on SuperStars, NXT and RAW/SD?
I think the US title could be on the same level as the IC needs to be, that's how it was in WCW. Ambrose is a talented wrestler, no need to hold him back as exposure as champion.
Marshyishere
Occasional Pre-Show
I think you've all been played by this interview. The interview has done exactly what WWE wanted it to do...get everyone talking about the US & IC titles...
The whole point of unifying the 2 big titles is for 2 reasons. 1 is to make the champion more prestigious, and 2 is to dilute the amount of talent in the upper pool. By doing this, they can once again make the US & IC titles relevant.
The whole point of unifying the 2 big titles is for 2 reasons. 1 is to make the champion more prestigious, and 2 is to dilute the amount of talent in the upper pool. By doing this, they can once again make the US & IC titles relevant.
To be honest with you, I don't want to see the mid-card title to be unified yet. I feel like it's too early seeing they have just unified the two world titles. Give it some time, even if both mid-card titles don't have as much prestige as they use too, I think it still gives the younger guys great opportunities to prove themselves to the locker room and directive, and why take that away from them? Both titles have successfully discovered stars, and have even identified those who don't have the 'it' factor. Eventually unify the titles and keep just the IC title, but for now I just don't see the point.
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