WWE makes major changes to 2 of it's PPVs

[Freddy4190]

- After sending out several surveys over the past few months, WWE has changed the name of a few upcoming pay-per-view events.

* The October 4th No Mercy pay-per-view is now called Hell in a Cell. This show is expected to have the top matches take place in a Hell in a Cell. At one point there was a plan to have Randy Orton vs. Triple H at SummerSlam in a Hell in a Cell match but that plan might be changed now.

* The Cyber Sunday pay-per-view on October 25th has been changed to WWE Annihilation. Presumably this will be the event with the top matches on the card having submission stipulations.

I guess this is pretty cool. Definitely looking forward to what they're gonna do with the supposed all submission PPV.

 

[Scotty]

I hope they don't do a PPV where the main events are in a Hell In A Cell because I'm afraid that it might diminish what is a already a good match. There have been what less then 20 in history? If someone could get an actual number then thanks. The submission PPV could be good but I thought I heard somewhere that it was gonna be called Breaking Point. I just don't know if a PPV of all submission matches would sell...maybe if they had like a submissions best 2-of-3 match that could be interesting.





I just looked it up and there have been 16 HIAC matches

 

[Spillz3000]

Yeah I'm not sure how great an all submission match PPV would be either. I mean especially if they view Cena as one of their submission experts than we are in deep trouble. I'm not quite sure if there are enough submission/technical experts who can move to PPV status in that short of time. The guys that can pull it off are too low on the totem poll to make it on a PPV.

 

[TwistofRKO]

They renamed Unforgiven "Breaking Point" which is my guess for the submission PPV, although that's just a blind guess.

I like the changes though, keep it fresh.

 

[CuddleBuns84]

The WWE can't do a all submission PPV, because well, they aren't MMA or UFC. I would like to see a 3 out of 5 fall match, or even 4 out of 7. Cyber Sunday got boring. Hell in a cell sounds like an amazing PPV, but a hell in a cell is only good, when that the cage falls apart and people go through it. I'm thinking a Tournament of Champions would be huge! The titles don't switch hands, it's more for bragging rights. The winner gets a trophy saying is the 2009 champion of champions. It would be the Superbowl of Professional Wrestling. So yes! Let's promote the champion of champions. 16 man tournament, and if a non champion wins it, he gets a title shot whenever he wants.

 

[Black Snow]

To me, the WWE giving themes to its PPVs is basically their way of saying they have too many of them. Instead of doing the logical thing and just cutting two PPVs a year they decided to add themes in order to make each PPV seem special.

The changes seem rather silly to me. I remember hearing that Vince McMahon believes that the WWE and MMA aren't direct competition. Then why create a submission PPV? That just screams as an attempt to cut into MMA viewership. Why not just use a theme you actually already have but decided to ignore? King of the Ring?

These names are also kind of sad. "Hell in a Cell?" We already have "Extreme Rules." Why not just rename "WrestleMania" as "Most Important PPV" with that level of creativity?

The oddest thing to me is that they'd axe "Cyber Sunday." That PPV already has a theme! How about adding a theme to "Backlash" or "Judgment Day?"

At the end of the day this isn't really a big deal. What matters the most is the wrestlers and the matches but decisions like this just make me scratch my head and continue to believe that Vince McMahon still doesn't have his finger on the pulse of wrestling fans no matter how much he may believe to the contrary.

 

[Phoenix]

Didn't fans complain when TNA did the single themed PPVs? So why is WWE trying to do it now. I feel the Hell in the Cell PPV takes the IT factor away from the Cell, it's used to end big time rivalries and were used timingly and effectively, now it just feels like we won't get that end of rivalry feel unless it's near the PPV formerly known as No Mercy! I just think that it's not the PPVs they need to think about, its how they use their gimmick matches as many threads have stated on here. It also says to me that the Creative lot are becoming more lazy. I can imagine this is how the meeting went down:

Vince: Right, No Mercy, we're going to change it, what will be special about it?
Nutmeg: Errr...Hell in a Cell?
Vince: Great, love it, we'll use it, any other suggestions?
Nutmeg 2: Errr...we should make Triple H and Randy Orton face off again?
Vince: Done!

Um, firstly, what the fuck? how about siting some sources for this information?

Go to wwe.com and see Upcoming PPVs box, they're listed there

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Um, firstly, what the fuck? how about siting some sources for this information?

Second...well, I guess its fine. No Mercy was a shit PPV anyway. HIAC being a once a year thing? meh, fair enough, I suppose. Its not like they had 8 of them per year anyhow. I think its a good idea though to make each of the shows have a different selling point.

Second, "Annihlation" is cool, but shit for two reasons. one, we dont need a damn PPV with the gimmick being two submission matches becuase we already have....A FUCKING PPV OF ALL SUBMISSION MATCHES....also, it sounds too much like Armageddon.

we can do all this dumb shit, but we cant have Halloween Havoc back? We cant have the Great American Bash be held in an outdoor baseball stadium?

Shit.

 

[Only watchh wwe for taker]

if the 'Hell in a Cell' PPV is an entire show of HIAC then they have killed it, simple as.
People have been complaining about 2 elimination chambers in one night. 6 or 7 cell matches are just gonna be destroy its appeal
As for Annihlation, as long as they keep the premise the same as cyber sunday-voting for the matches then it should be okay

 

[Paradox]

if the 'Hell in a Cell' PPV is an entire show of HIAC then they have killed it, simple as.
People have been complaining about 2 elimination chambers in one night. 6 or 7 cell matches are just gonna be destroy its appeal
As for Annihlation, as long as they keep the premise the same as cyber sunday-voting for the matches then it should be okay

I really don't remember anyone on this forum complaining about to EC matches in one night. I really don't think that they are to do 7 HIAC in one night. I think that they will do 2 maybe 3. No way will they do that many in a night unless a couple of them are going to be a multiple men in a match.

Annihilation does seem a bit to close to Armageddon. Though I think It could be decent.

 

[Cheech 72]

WWE has so many PPV's no one can keep up with them. Every year they change the PPV's names or add more. What the hell happen to the system of 5 PPV's a year. Back then you were actually excited about a PPV because there was enough time in between to have great buildup for matches. WWE puts out the best of Wrestlemania, Summerslam, Royal Rumble, and Survivor Series DVDs. How can they put out anymore if the PPV name changes every month. Plus a PPV with nothing but submissions or Hell in a Cell matches are redundant after while.

 

[Saritafan]

at least WWE is trying.for years,us as fans have been wanting something different and NOW,we got it,so why is everyone complaining but I agree,the HIAC PPV should only have 3 matches tops in HIAC other wise,it kills the HIAC history

what is WWE Annihilation anyway,i thought breaking point was the submission PPV,ughh,my head hurts.Submission PPV sounds soooo boring,i mean really,half the crowd goes to sleep during a sleeper hold,does Vince honestly think WWE fans can tolerate an ALL submission PPV,i'll die but like I said,at least there trying.most stars are going to have to think of submission holds because most don't use them,these are the ones I can think of

cena-STF
jericho-walls of jericho
edge-sharpshooter
triple h-crossface
big show-that lame sleeper hold he does

thats all i can remember

I bet WWE is going to change Armageddon to another theme PPV,I don't know about you guys,but i like theme PPV but it makes every PPV unique

 

[Zeedeevel]

I think what some younger fans might forget is that WWE's 2nd ppv event was a theme ppv called Survivor Series. Originally the event was made up of either 4 on 4 or 5 on 5 matches, and thats what made it unique. After that theme came the Royal Rumble. SummerSlam doesnt have theme matches but the last of the big 5 did and that was King of the Ring. So to say that giving each ppv a theme is something new to offset the fact that they have too many is completely false. It is just an old thing that they are bringing back

 

[shafe_41]

WTF are they doing? I purchased tickets for Cyber Sunday under the premise it's Cyber Sunday. I'm actually really fucking jacked right now that they may not even do the whole Cyber Sunday format. I don't even want to go now. Cyber Sunday is usually a somewhat decent PPV just for the simple fact that if there's a title match and your options for special ref are Chode A, Chode B, and Stone Cold... like it has the last few years, I will get to see Austin because nobody cares about Chode A or Chode B. Or another title match will be contested under a Singles match, pie eating, or Hell in a Cell, I'll get to see hell in a cell. I understand that "card subject to change" and all that. But how fair is it that "entire premise of the event of which you got tickets for is subject to change?" Wouldn't that be like somebody buying tickets for Mania and then they decide, ooooooo we're switching Backlash and Mania this year, then renaming Backlash, and whoever ordered tickets for Mania... tough. Of course that's a little bit of an extreme case, but I seriously think that's really unfair that the WWE announces an event as Cyber Sunday, sells tickets as Cyber Sunday (which they DO say on my tickets), and then totally switch it? That's pretty low. Yes I know I will still get to see a PPV of good matches, but the whole concept could be changed.

That's almost like.... buying tickets for the Rolling Stones and instead of the Stones showing up... it's U2... singing the songs of the stones. Sure you get a huge show in U2 in a sense... but I paid for Mick Jagger and Keith to sing their own tunes. Not Bono and Edge to do the Stones tunes.

So if you can't tell... I'm jacked. I hate this idea. Possibly just because I'm a part of the change in a sense. Nobody is going to bitch that "No Mercy" got changed to "Hell in a Cell." That's a total upgrade...kinda. I agree they'll kill the HIAC idea if they do it for a whole night. Maybe they're trying to capitalize on the somewhat success of TNA's Lockdown concept. Every Lockdown PPV i've seen has been decent. 07 was absolutely amazing and I believe everybody should watch it. 08 was a stinker. The rest were very good. So maybe it will work. Maybe it won't.

However, I believe I have a legit gripe about the WWE selling tickets for "Cyber Sunday" and then totally changing the PPV concept (we think).

 

[TwistofRKO]

I'm pretty sure the Hell in a Cell match will just be the main event(s).

I hate the name of it, incredibly unoriginal. Couldn't they have made it the sub-title? Like No mercy: Hell in a Cell?

The concept though, is okay. I like not expecting big matches though. I'd rather have the non-Wrestlemania build-up be random and not predictable. Now we will be expecting match-ups for certain stars at certain times. 'Taker wrestling at Hell in a Cell? Pretty good chance of that.

As I said in my first post though, I like the changes. I just don't think it's a real solution. That being said the Submission idea is great, hopefully we see a new revelation is submissions, which have been drastically lacking in the past 5 years.

 

[RH23]

eh the names to me are kinda cheesy. It seems like WWE is really starting to do gimmick PPVS. Sucks Cyber Sunday is going away, it was a really good concept for a PPV but whats done is done.

 

[pyrusane]

I'm still waiting for No Way Out to be renamed Future Endeavors. Every match features a main event wrestler against an injury prone mid-carder, and the loser of each match immediately joins the TNA roster for a two-month push prior to jobbing for Abyss and/or Samoa Joe.

 

[Shocky]

So the WWE is trying to shake things up a bit apparantely.

Firstly, Unforgiven is gone, which truly sucks. I don't mind the idea of Unforgiven becoming Breaking Point (coincidentally the name of the first Pay Per View of Brock Lesnar in the UFC, hmmm), an all submission pay per view. I think the submission style adds a uniqueness to the night, seeing as pinfalls mean jack shit and the entire point of the evening will be to make your opponent tap. I like the idea myself, but really wish it would have been another pay per view. The Championship Scramble at last Years Unforgiven was bad ass, and would have loved to see that become the staple.

No Mercy now is Hell in the Cell. I get the timing of it, seeing as the two best Cell matches ever came in this month, the original at Bad Blood and then the No Mercy 2002 Cell match. However, the thing I enjoyed about the Hell in the Cell match was the sporadicness of it coming. A GM or Vince out of nowhere saying "Hell in the Cell" was freaking awesome, and now the chance of seeing it twice in one night takes away from the mystique of the structure. I hate No Mercy the pay per view, and simply feel this pay per view should be scrapped instead of restructured.

Cyber Sunday is Annihilation? What the hell. Cyber Sunday sucked ass, but Annihiliation is a terrible name for a pay per view. I'm with norcal, I need sources before I go any further.

 

[Muttley]

I just don't understand who has been coming up with these PPV names...Extreme Rules, Hell in a Cell, Annihilation...Breaking Point is the only one that is somewhat creative to me.

And what happened to WWE going PG and wanting to change the name of "Hell in a Cell," now they want to make a whole PPV named that??

From everyone else's posts on here, it seems as if they are doing gimmick PPV, so WHY get rid of an original idea/gimmick like Cyber Sunday? I agree with shafe because I purchased tickets to Cyber Sunday EXPECTING to see Cyber Sunday type PPV...I dunno if I want to be a guinea pig for some new PPV that I don't even know what I'm getting until a couple months or even weeks before the event.

 

[Tastycles]

WWE Breaking Point will be a massive let down, in my opinion. I have zero desire to see Randy Orton put on even more headlocks than he usually does, and I can't see anybody else doing so either. I predict it will take over from No Mercy as the shittest PPV. Hell in a Cell is a crap name for wht could be hit or miss. A Hell in a cell with the right wresters can be a dream match, but I do fear that something ike a potential Smackdown main event of CM Punk vs Jericho wouldn't really work in a cell, so you basically have to have Undertaker in it, which could be good, or could be a disaster. Annihilation is another dogpoo name, but maybe it'll grow.

I'm of the opinion that all of the PPVs that aren't a part of the big four, or directly following one of them need some sort of gimmick, otherwise they are stale. See No Mercy and Judgement Day in recent years as proof of that, completely poor for the most part.

No Mercy therefore, could strongly benefit, Unforgiven I'd have liked to see go for the scramble every year, but maybe they'll give that to anhiliation.

 

[Sean Valjean]

Who comes up with these names? Hell in a Cell? Just because it may have a couple of cell matches doesn't mean you name the ppv after the match. That's like the Royal Rumble being called "Battle Royal".

I don't like the name Annihilation either; it just doesn't roll off the ppv tongue for me. If they wanted a name that had to do with mass destruction/extinction (as if Armageddon wasn't enough) they should have named it "Genocide". That sounds cooler than Annihilation, at least to me.

Even if HIAC only has one or two cell matches, that will kill it. Like Shocky said, cell matches should happen sporadically, and should never have a pattern or schedule. They should only be used in the REALLY intense, personal fueds. Having one a year means that most likely we'll get a cell match built around a fued that isn't even worthy of the match. Cena could randomly become number one contender and have to face Orton in a HIAC with plain, normal build up just because he got his shot around that time. A ppv for HIAC is stupid to me, and they should've just brought back King of the Ring or Halloween Havoc instead.

What's the point of Annihilation? Cyber Sunday already had a theme, a pretty good one too, so why change it? Is Annihilation going to have a theme? Maybe they'll go with my Future Endeavor ppv idea and have jobs on the line, so if you lose, your career as been "annihilated". Yeah, they should've just kept Cyber Sunday.

 

[Motor City Mayhem]

I think the two new WWE PPVs are gonna be cool. I like the Idea of having all the Main Events in a Hell in A Cell it will be really cool to watch.

As for WWE Annihilation I dont like the the name I think its dumb. I think my poop is more original then that. I like No Mercy better but whatever Vince wants Vince get right.

 

[TheGreatSPAMbino]

Who comes up with these names? Hell in a Cell? Just because it may have a couple of cell matches doesn't mean you name the ppv after the match. That's like the Royal Rumble being called "Battle Royal".

Actually its like the Royal Rumble being called Royal Rumble, because the main event is a Royal Rumble match.

But anyways I am not a fan of the Hell in a Cell ppv because i agree that it should be used for big rivalries only and should not be put on a rigid schedule like the elimination chamber at No way out.

As for Annihilation, i feel very indifferent about this name. It is a generic name which will probably produce a generic pay per view. It seems very much like an "In Your House" type pay per view, which in case you were wondering is not a good thing.

 

[HBK-aholic]

I think Hell in a cell only works when it's worked into a storyline - someone like The Undertaker it works with. Especially when a competitor is booked as being afraid of him, as it gives him no room to run. I think having a PPV where a HiaC is used simply to fill the name requirements will definitely take away from the 'magic' of a HiaC match when they do happen for reasons stated above.

 

[Sivsyboi]

I'm not sure whether to be annoyed or just pissed off.

Unforgiven to Breaking point. 3 hours of sleeper holds. Not buyin it in.

No Mercy to HIAC. If this match is used more than once a year, then not buyin that in.

Cyber Sunday to Annhialation (I can't spell it). So no more voting...not, buyin, that!

Well that's another three that I'm not watching, well done WWE