WWE has done it again

[Honkey_Kong]

Expect John Morrison to win the Royal Rumble. Obviously, WWE is going to be investing a lot of their resources into promoting the new Tough Enough season. With the premier being the day after Wrestlemania it is logical for them to use John Morrison as the biggest draw for the show. Therefore the next 3 months will be huge for JoMo. I would almost bet he walks out of Wrestlemania with a title to help with the success of Tough Enough.

I don't expect JoMo to win the Rumble at all. I'm expecting HHH to return and win it.

I will say this though, After watching Miz/JoMo, it was clear that The Miz cannot work a decent match without somebody carrying him. Morrison made that match decent despite Miz and Riley. I'm hoping Morrison gets in the main event at the rumble, because I'm sick of Orton/Miz and we need something different. The problem is they need Orton in order to sell the main event. Let's face it, who aside from the IWC would buy a PPV headlined by miz/morrison?

 

[ForzaItalia]

I found it hypocritical when Cole said and I quote, ''there has to be a winner and a loser'' at the end of the title match. When do we ever see a clean win in any title match lol? Anyways, I think Morrison had a great showing in this match and at least he is very over with the crowd almost to Jeff Hardy status before he left. But I really do think he should be entered into the title match at RR because he needs the PPV main event exposure more than Orton does. Orton is in every PPV main event and we just saw Orton vs. Miz at TLC. Spice things up a bit and throw in Morrison or even King Sheamus and make a Fatal 4 Way just not those two for the third time.

The #1 Contender's match was such an insult to JOMO though. Yeah so Morrison lost and now it is time for a new contender 10 minutes later. To have a title match and a #1 Contender's match in the same night is just so stupid. Now, Stale Orton is back in the title picture. I would rather see Cena there instead of Orton. Hopefully something good will come out of this title match like maybe Y2J getting his revenge on Orton and costing him the title?

 

[shankit231]

I thinking this is a good thing because Orton being in the title match at the RR will mean Orton won't be in the RR it self and maybe JoMo might be a possible talent to be the one to win the RR. But i was hoping to see JoMo in a main event on a PPV for once instead of the same old people its always either Orton, Cena, or Sheamus. How is WWE supposed to make new main event talent if they keep booking the same people for PPV title matches. Why not trying throwing some new names for a chance. Thats why they can't sell PPV's for crap because why the hell would I pay over 30 bucks on matches I seen on previous PPV's or see for free on TV.

 

[WarMachine1890]

Well if Morrison doesn't win the Rumble this whole push will have been for nothing. They should have a little bit more faith in the Morrison to be able to main event by now. I know it doesn't mean much to most but he was an ECW champion, regardless the credibility of the title he's had great matches when it comes down to it. The creative team needs to keep giving out half assed pushes (excuse my language) and just push the trigger.

 

[The Eighties]

I think turning Orton heel would be an odd choice since he is getting the best pops of his career right now.

The thing I found interesting was the way they kept going back and showing replays of the Miz/JoMo match and putting over what a great performance he gave. It feels like they are setting his title chase up in the same way they did Jeff Hardy's.

I can't see JoMo winning the Rumble but by the same token I don't see any point in him winning MITB, he already won one ladder match to get a title shot, having him win MITB would just be a repeat.

 

[triple_b2k]

This was a great episode of Raw! Lots of good wrestling matches. I really wanted to see the Usos win the titles but sadly it wasn't a title match. Hopefully soon so they can add some kind of sanity to the tag team division.

Randy winning AGAIN is plain boring. It's like when Batista kept getting title shots over and over again but never won the match. Same people in the title hunt with the exception of Morrison who will once again, return to mid-card status.

Funny, Morrison and R-Truth seem to get the best reaction from the crowd but they're still not given the full chance they should. Lame.

 

[shankit231]

Well it only makes since that he will win the Royal Rumble because how are you going to have a ladder match at a PPV for the Number One Contender and then unannounced make it the first match on Raw you would assume it would be for the next PPV. So that why my only guess is they plan on having Jomo win the rumble I really don't see any other explination besides the creative team and/or Vince with there head up there ass. It quotes this from the TLC PPV results on wwe.com "With the 2011 Royal Rumble on the horizon and an opportunity for the WWE Championship in his grasp, John Morrison heads into a seemingly prosperous new year. The Shaman of Sexy may have already begun to pave his road to the Georgia Dome and the main event of WrestleMania XXVII."

 

[TheDogfather]

I think PPV's are dumb. I'm happy they showed that match on Television I never ever order them. lol. I think they really should of made the match more contreversial so that they'd have an excuse to give JMO a shot and then made the Steel cage a match for the last spot.

I don't like Orton but I think thats because I'm getting sick of Cole saying "Oh he's getting to the spot where he start's to hear voices in his head!" I wish I could punch him in the head constantly. He say's the most ******ed things I've ever heard. I hope he's GM so I don't have to listen to him on commentary anymore.

I hope at the Rumble they make it so "A-RY" Can't interfere I understand it's what makes money but i'm sick of that guy he's never colorful at all. Just the same thing weak after weak. they might as well make him scoot on his knees right in front of Miz All the time.

 

[UltimateHitman]

Some good scenarios coming out of this thread, one of which was the mention of Jericho coming back and costing Orton the title at the Rumble. Would love to see that one. After Orton turns heel again, that is.

Let's face it, Orton sucks. We all know it. But his whole I don't care about anything crap is played out . He sounded like he was going back to the despicable ways in his promo this evening, and I think he should. Hell, how do people cheer an obvious selfish, cold, hateful bastard character anyway? Isn't this supposed to be PG? Cheering a guy that gets pleasure out of brutalizing people shouldn't be "accepted PG behavior". But enough of the moral dilemma, it's apparent that Orton needs to be heel. His character just isn't right in a face scenario.

I agree that they better not drop the ball with JoMo. I'll admit, even though I like the guy, that he isn't the most spectacular mic worker and might not have that ME aura yet, yet is extremely over with the crowd. And like I said, I like the guy, but I can't see how he's gotten as big of a reaction as he has. He's kind of reminiscent of the WWE RVD run. Good in the ring, not much of a mic guy, kind of a "laid back" persona, yet the crowd flips for him. Remarkable.

I do believe they could have a couple of "unproven" stars be 2nd and 3rd from the top of the card on a PPV and come out better for it than by having the same old same old feuds like others have said. I could see a Miz/Morrison bout being 2nd or 3rd from the top, maybe a Swagger/Kofi or Ziggler/somebody being another one up there. Like somebody said, you have to showcase these guys that can put on a good show on the bigger ppv stage to start getting them solidified in the upper talent tier. Can't be hesitant or the people will sense that and you'll miss the boat on a lot of good, worthwhile product.

 

[ForeverRKO]

The john morrison & the miz match was just to see the reaction , the reaction is going good so he'll get another title shot soon . I believe orton will win the title again , then the miz & morrison feud will come into place for the title , just hold tight people .

 

[mral82]

The Shaman or The Essence will win the rumble as they are being groomed unless Christian returns and finally wins the Rumble. There is rumours of Punk-Orton, Barrett-Taker, Edge-Christian and Cena-Miz for Mania this yr but will wait and see what happens as its up to Cena's and Taker's health for a star powered Mania or is this yr going to be shades of WrestleMania XI, XII, or XIII go back and look at that card and you'll see what i mean on banking on the unknowns. Morrison or Del Rio will win A world title this as well as Christian

 

[Diamond Dallas Cage]

Let's face it, Orton sucks. We all know it. But his whole I don't care about anything crap is played out . He sounded like he was going back to the despicable ways in his promo this evening, and I think he should. Hell, how do people cheer an obvious selfish, cold, hateful bastard character anyway? Isn't this supposed to be PG? Cheering a guy that gets pleasure out of brutalizing people shouldn't be "accepted PG behavior". But enough of the moral dilemma, it's apparent that Orton needs to be heel. His character just isn't right in a face scenario.

Orton is under the same pyschology that Austin was under when he first began to draw fans in 1996. He was a jerk, he used the Austin 3:16 saying (which you would assume would anger people enough to turn them away), then he became more of a face as he interacted with the crowds, etc, but at the beginning he was still a full fledged bad dude that went after the heel Bret Hart. That's what began his climb as one of the biggest names ever in professional wrestling

I am a huge fan of Orton and have been since his evolution days ... the thing about Austin, he involved you in his matches with emotion. You either loved him or hated him, and when he performed you were drawn to him. I think it's a little like that with Orton.

 

[retoocs]

i think this was a good move to show the fans that yeah mizz can get a clean win, and now that orton won the cage match means that sheamus will probably begin a feud with triple h and that the wwe can move barret to smackdown

 

[Heartachetonight926]

Forgive me for sounding rude....But what a bunch of Cry-babies!!!!!!!!!!


Wow, Morrison lost his first WWE title match, Big Fuckin deal, it's not the end of his push. Morrison is going to get more and more WWE Championship opportunities as the year goes on, possibly even winning the Royal rumble. They Didn't make Morrison look "Weak" in any way, he competley dominated the match but took an unnecesary risk at the end that cost him the match, simple as that.

I swear people will find anything to complain about in this ******ed community called the "IWC". I just watched one of the most entertaning RAW's I have seen in a long while, and then I log onto my computer and see this crap? Stop trying to be a Booker, and just watch thing's unfold, it's much funner and stress-free that way.

Randy orton is just another victim of the IWC's inability to be pleased, Last year around this time he was getting praised by EVERYBODY!!! now everywhere you go people call him "Bland" and "Boring" ....what a crock of shit. He was the only baby-face in a Triple Threat cage match, your really that shocked he won? Sheamus vs The Miz at the rumble is a terrible idea, same with Wade vs Miz, Who would the crowd cheer for? You need to have a balance of Boo's and cheer's in a title match.

Sorry If I sounded a bit "Dickish", But damn.....

 

[atownthegreat]

what your missing sir is that, royal rumble isnt till the end of the month, therefore every year at this time, they do a champion match on TV cause im sorry but they cant build up john morrison and miz in 5 weeks, they have no big story line to build up from, besides they are both not 'main eventers' to begin with to be on a ppv main even like the rumble, if it was like extreme rules then maybe but they both aren't skilled enough sale out rumble, no one would buy it, its not eye catching!

 

[The Eighties]

Forgive me for sounding rude....But what a bunch of Cry-babies!!!!!!!!!!


Wow, Morrison lost his first WWE title match, Big Fuckin deal, it's not the end of his push. Morrison is going to get more and more WWE Championship opportunities as the year goes on, possibly even winning the Royal rumble. They Didn't make Morrison look "Weak" in any way, he competley dominated the match but took an unnecesary risk at the end that cost him the match, simple as that.

I swear people will find anything to complain about in this ******ed community called the "IWC". I just watched one of the most entertaning RAW's I have seen in a long while, and then I log onto my computer and see this crap? Stop trying to be a Booker, and just watch thing's unfold, it's much funner and stress-free that way.

Randy orton is just another victim of the IWC's inability to be pleased, Last year around this time he was getting praised by EVERYBODY!!! now everywhere you go people call him "Bland" and "Boring" ....what a crock of shit. He was the only baby-face in a Triple Threat cage match, your really that shocked he won? Sheamus vs The Miz at the rumble is a terrible idea, same with Wade vs Miz, Who would the crowd cheer for? You need to have a balance of Boo's and cheer's in a title match.

Sorry If I sounded a bit "Dickish", But damn.....

I agree that people tend to jump the gun, I also think personal bias is coming in with Orton, I mean he was getting a huge reaction tonight so it's not hard to figure out why the WWE keep pushing him.

I think the main issue many have is that there have been two Orton vs Miz title matches in the last fortnight, and now yet another one is going to be on PPV.

 

[drobs85]

When John Morrison became #1 contender, I was hoping that the match would be on PPV, NOT FREE TV. And then they just throw it out on RAW tonight in a curtain jerker spot and now we're back to Miz/Orton for the Rumble. Who wants to see Orton in ANOTHER WWE Title Match?

Nice job WWE. You fail again.

Most people always complain that the same matches happen constantly on Raw or Smack-down, so when WWE finally has a different match for a change and it's a title match at that, people still complain that it's "Free TV". WTH which is it? Truthfully that match would've stunk up a pay-per view so it made sense to have it on "Free TV" as you put it. By the way, if it was free, I wouldn't have a cable bill every month. My guess is that Morrison from here will challenge the winner of the Orton, Morrison rumble match. Maybe Morrison Miz next match will have enough build for both of them that a pay per view match between the two would be warranted but who knows.

 

[Heartachetonight926]

I agree that people tend to jump the gun, I also think personal bias is coming in with Orton, I mean he was getting a huge reaction tonight so it's not hard to figure out why the WWE keep pushing him.

I think the main issue many have is that there have been two Orton vs Miz title matches in the last fortnight, and now yet another one is going to be on PPV.

As long as Miz and Orton work on making the matches better and different each time, I really don't see the problem. I can understand people getting tired of seeing the same thing over and over again, but I really don't think people should be so quick to jump the gun.

 

[wwefan101x]

Forgive me for sounding rude....But what a bunch of Cry-babies!!!!!!!!!!


Wow, Morrison lost his first WWE title match, Big Fuckin deal, it's not the end of his push. Morrison is going to get more and more WWE Championship opportunities as the year goes on, possibly even winning the Royal rumble. They Didn't make Morrison look "Weak" in any way, he competley dominated the match but took an unnecesary risk at the end that cost him the match, simple as that.

I swear people will find anything to complain about in this ******ed community called the "IWC". I just watched one of the most entertaning RAW's I have seen in a long while, and then I log onto my computer and see this crap? Stop trying to be a Booker, and just watch thing's unfold, it's much funner and stress-free that way.

Randy orton is just another victim of the IWC's inability to be pleased, Last year around this time he was getting praised by EVERYBODY!!! now everywhere you go people call him "Bland" and "Boring" ....what a crock of shit. He was the only baby-face in a Triple Threat cage match, your really that shocked he won? Sheamus vs The Miz at the rumble is a terrible idea, same with Wade vs Miz, Who would the crowd cheer for? You need to have a balance of Boo's and cheer's in a title match.

Sorry If I sounded a bit "Dickish", But damn.....

I totally agree with you here. The only face out of Barrett, sheamus and Orton was Orton so it was kind of obvious he was going to win. I don't mind a Miz/Orton match at RR but IMO I think it would be more epic for a Orton/Miz/Morrison match at RR. Why? With Orton being in the mix who is already a main eventer he could put Morrison and Miz "over" as main eventers possibly.

 

[dr.j.zoidberg]

orton deserved to win only cause he was screwed twice in a row by miz as far as im concerned miz aka the jizz doesnt deserve to hold the belt lets see him win a match while wwe champion on his own while alex riley stays in the back then ill be impressed seamus is doing a program with triple and wade barrett will go to smackdown so that smackdown can have a new superstar to have storylines with
ps the miz will never be in the hall of fame

 

[RKOx7]

I agree with Heartachetonight926, even though sometimes I am one of those crybabies.

I didn't expect Morrison to win tonight, on top of that, it being the first card on the match really made me mad. It was like the WWE was just rubbing it in my face that they were gonna put Miz OVER Morrison as their first action of the new year. Personally I would have liked to see this match occur at the Royal Rumble but now that it is over, I'm glad that it is over. Now we have 3 weeks time to watch Morrison pick up the pieces.

I don't know if Morrison will win the Royal Rumble... there are many factors that are still floating around. Christian will return soon. Alberto del Rio has been on a major push and WWE even named him the #1 Breakout Star of 2011... wouldn't surprise me if he won the Rumble, everyone has had their heads up their asses about Triple H returning to fight Sheamus, and while its a high possibility, it isn't set in stone. This time of the year is unpredictability to the max ('cept two years ago when Randy won Rumble, that was oh so predictable).

The match itself on RAW was a great match but what fucking bugs the shit out of me is the IWC members who really love the Miz. I'm sorry I've tried to like the Miz but for god fucking sake what do you like about someone who just screams I'm AWESOME from week to week. HIS PROMOS ARE A BROKEN RECORD. I never hear anything besides "I'm the Miz and I'm Awesome, or REALLY? REALLY?, or his sad SOB story about how no one liked him and he showed them. It's not even his over the top cowardlyness that bothers me its just his overexposure as an annoying heel. I liked him better when he actually won his matches when he was U.S. Champion.

Everyone has carried the Miz on their backs in their matches and tonight was just another match for John Morrison. However, it was John Morrison tonight that MADE Miz look good... NOT the Miz.

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Last part of the discussion. Randy Orton won his #1 Contendership tonight. I noticed a lot of the IWC is angry about seeing another Orton title match. What no one seems to understand though is that the Royal Rumble title match is most certainly like another feud ender. Only one competitor leaves out of the RR title match to go towards the WrestleMania main event... while the other one goes on to other endeavors. This match, whether you wanna see it or not, needs to happen, because there is an unresolved feud between Randy and the Miz. Personally, win or lose, I'd rather have this match gone and over with NOW, before Elimination Chamber and definitely before WrestleMania.

 

[The Eighties]

As long as Miz and Orton work on making the matches better and different each time, I really don't see the problem. I can understand people getting tired of seeing the same thing over and over again, but I really don't think people should be so quick to jump the gun.

The thing is this will be the 3rd in around 6 weeks and it wasn't as if the other 2 were that great. I think if they spread them out a bit or even made a triple threat that threw another element into the mix it would leave people feeling less bored and is if they are getting the same thing repeatedly.

 

[Diamond Dallas Cage]

personally i would've preferred to see miz/morrison at the rumble to allow orton into the rumble match to create more intrigue and possibilities within that match itself because let's face it ... just about EVERY year we can narrow it down to about 6 guys that will win it ... i think the more "big names" in the rumble, the better. jmho

having orton in the match would allow for some interesting eliminations to happen or what have you. just my opinion

 

[triple_b2k]

I knew Morrison wasn't going to win but I was still pulling for him. I never buy PPV's so seeing his title match on TV was awesome. It's just disappointing it was done so quickly. It was basically filler to give Orton a chance to win a #1 contender match.
Most people on here probably believe Morrison was going to lose, but the way he got a title shot so quickly and than thrown out of the title picture stinks. Some other statements are also right, Morrisons push isn't over just because he lost but he's automatically out of the title picture for another month. Most of us are just disappointed WWE used him to bridge another rivalry instead of giving him a real chance in the spot light.

 

[RKOx7]

The thing is this will be the 3rd in around 6 weeks and it wasn't as if the other 2 were that great. I think if they spread them out a bit or even made a triple threat that threw another element into the mix it would leave people feeling less bored and is if they are getting the same thing repeatedly.

Nothing with the Miz in my opinion is that great. I'm not gonna complain about the Miz anymore, there's a thread for that. But Randy Orton and Miz do have a feud thats ongoing. Orton, as many feel like the Miz Girl, was cheated out of his Title. And like all of the champions before him who have been victims of an assault by a MITB winner, need to end their feuds with them. Miz's first win over Randy was controversial. Miz's second win over Randy was controversial, followed by a raging train wreck, and was dumb. This needs to happen and I'd rather it happen now then later.