WWE fans arguments against TNA

[iamwrestling]

Here are most of the arguments against TNA that I have heard from all the WWE fans out there:
1. "WWE shows are 2 hours long and there are three of them. TNA only has one one-hour show. There's no way one one-hour show can compete with two one-hour shows and one one-hour show."
That's true. There is pretty much no way that can happen. However, we all know that Smackdown is the new WCW Thunder. Anyone that refuses to admit that is clearly in denial and is not worth debating. Smackdown may come to an end in the not to distant future if it stays in the direction it's in right now. ECW is doing a nice job (since ECW fans are idiots who don't realize that this ECW is not the real ECW. For the love of God, every match isn't even ECW rules! Why do you give that mindless crap ratings?! They're taking you all for idiots by feeding you that crap and you're buying right into it) however I don't think it will ever reach the point where it reaches two hours. Raw isn't going to fail in the ratings any time soon despite the fact that it's the same thing every week. Now, as for impact, that show will not be staying one hour long forever. Eventually the ratings will grow and they will have enough power to get to two hours long. After that, eventually, if smackdown folds it will be two shows v. one show. When TNA's two hour shows get big enough they will eventually add another one hour show to compete with ECW. Then it will be two against two. At the time when TNA's shows get to the point where they are two hours long, they will have more money and start having better pyros and bigger arenas. When they do, they will have the better wrestling (as they do right now), and the same arena sizes/pyros/music for all the idiots out there that would rather have a soap opera than a wrestling show. If they have that they will be more popular than TNA. These things just take time. Give them time and TNA will have more glamor and eventually be better than WWE. I give the plan for TNA to be in WWE sized arenas about 5-6 years.

2. "TNA is WWE rejects"
What about AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels, Jay Lethal, Senshi, Chris Sabin, Alex Shelley, Homicide, Hernandez, James Storm, Chris Harris, Abyss, Monty Brown, Eric Young, Bobby Roode, Andy Douglas, Chase Stevens, Jerelle Clark, Johnny Devine, Kazarian, Lance Hoyt, Sonjay Dutt, Petey Williams, and Sting? None of those guys were ever in WWE.
The guys that were in WWE, WWE had no idea how to use them:
The James Gang: Billy Gunn was turned homosexual since they had no idea how to use him. Jesse James was just taken out of the picture since they couldn't realize he was a huge fan favorite and they have no respect for tag team matches. That's why James didn't renew his contract.

Team 3D: They had NO idea what to do with arguably the best tag team of all time. And just like Goldberg, DDP, Scott Steiner, Spike Dudley, Mike Awesome, and many other good wrestlers that were from WCW or ECW (not saying that WCW was good, because it wasn't. I'm just saying there were some WCW wrestlers that were good) they almost ruined their name.

Jeff Jarrett: WWE did not reject Jeff Jarrett. Jeff Jarrett rejected WWE. He left them and went on to be one of the most hated heels in wrestling history.

Kevin Nash: Nash left them. WWE didn't let Nash go. McMahon even offered him a creative role backstage, but he declined that as well.

Rhino: Sure WWE fired him in the first place. But it was for the better. They had no idea what to do with him until he was just a jobber. He went from the last ever ECW champion to being a jobber in WWE. Also, Rhino rejected them eventually anyways. He rejected their contract they gave him.

Ron Killings: Just another guy with extremely great talent that WWE let go to waste simply because they had no ideas at all.

Scott Steiner: Steiner wasn't fired, he quit because of an injury.

Christian Cage: He rejected WWE and even let them know who was boss.

Where I'm going with this is, if Bret Hart joined TNA today, would you consider him a WWE reject. Well, based on the WWE fans opinions stated in the past, then yes, I guess you would call Bret "The Hitman" Hart a reject. See where I'm going with this?

3. "TNA is to cheap and has no good songs and bad acting."

Since when is Wrestling supposed to be more about the acting than the wrestling? Get it through your heads people, wrestling is better than acting.

4. "WWE's matches are better."

Anyone who has said this has been an ignorant fan that has probably never even seen a TNA match. Even most WWE fans on this board have admitted that TNA's matches are MUUUUCH better than WWE's matches.

 

[Blizzard]

Kazarian was in WWE for a short time jobbing on velocity.

 

[iamwrestling]

So there's another guy they didn't know how to use. Instead they'd rather give a push to a cross dresser. Brilliant.

 

[cmiller9291]

u have some very good points. however about the soap opera stuff. i think they over do it sometimes too, but it helps hype up matches in a way that tna doesnt. also ppl can complain about wwe not pushing ppl but they have infact pushed a lot of wrestlers and created big big stars like the rock, stone cold, triple h and michaels. you might say that some of those guys arent good wrestlers but overall with the mic skills and fan hype thrown into the mix, those wrestlers have done very well. lastly, i understand ur predictions are definatly possible but that stuff is way too far away to think about, i mean theres so many things that have to happen. i understand all u points though, and u have a good argument. im a big wwe fan, but i admit there are things that tna has edges over and vice versa. we'll just have to wait and see what happens

 

[DarkAngel19]

Thank you for seeing my view of the WWE compared to TNA and especially the alleged ECW. But if you don't mind, I'd like to add some points of my own in the mix.

1) Scott Steiner may have been good at some point but it's hard to say considering he was world champ during a time where WCW was handing the titles off to almost anybody including the nachos guy. Ex: David Arquette. His matches sucked in the WWE and his mass has made him slow, sloppy and all in all painful to watch.

2) Ric Flair has no business in an ECW ring and the same goes for Big Show. And the fact that he holds the ECW belt is an insult. And landing on thumbtacks or taking shots with a 2 x 4 wrapped in Barbed Wire doesn't make you extreme. Tommy Dreamer, Terry Funk, Sandman, Sabu, RVD, etc. They are extreme because they earned that right.

3) WWE matches are better than TNA matches. I got two words for you on that one: X DIVISION. And what the hell, two more words: ULTIMATE X. In fact the first match I watched from TNA was the Ultimate X match between Petey Williams AJ Styles and Chris Sabin. After that, I was hooked. Not to mention TNA does moves WWE doesn't have the guts to try and does innovative things like Lockdown or the King of the Mountain match which WWE has become too gutless to try.


Bottom line, besides that I agree with you totally.

WWE=End of Pro Wrestling.
TNA=The Evolution of Pro Wrestling.

 

[cmiller9291]

the reason that tna can do more high risk is because they have less to lose as opposed to wwe who have no reason to risk big big injuries. look back on when they were pushed to the limit on the monday night wars. they went pretty far as far as risk goes

 

[thecruiser]

Well, if WWE wants to continue to reel in new fans, they should go BACK to the Monday Night Wars style shows. If they do that, since they WON'T be able to go off-air due to the ratings, they would DESTROY TNA and TNA would be done. the attitude needs to come back to the WWE. Bring in the REAL DX, and let them loose. Make Angle a heel on RAW. Bring Chris Benoit back as a shoot-fighter. Edge needs to become a face again. Have Cena a heel, and have him either rap against people, or just be a normal amateur-style WRESTLER. Have an enormous faction, that just takes over the WWE. Maybe McMahon's Corporation, and have Shane as the leader. Bring in an Austin-like character to just rile up the crowd. it would be great.

 

[salomon4evr]

Just so you know, This weeks Raw scored a 4.2 rating, which was up from last week. You guys can make all the complaints you want about the wwe and how TNA would dominate, but as long as this continues, your wishes won't be granted. The only pure way that TNA can win is to get their ratings up, and so far, they haven't done much.

 

[RonaldMcdonald]

christain cage is the worst at promos and he doesnt even look like a good legendary wrestler.

 

[gamehead]

christain cage is the worst at promos and he doesnt even look like a good legendary wrestler.

Does the McDonalds you eat have drugs in them you fucking clown? Christian is one of the best in promos he's better then your champs Edge, Big Show and Booker T. Who said he was a legend in the first place? I bet if WWE buys TNA you'll think TNA was the best just because your boyfreind (Vince McMahon) told you it was. You'll just posting hate against TNA cause you're scared that it will overpower the WWE like WCW almost did. What arguments do you have? I see everyone in this thread besides you put up good arguments and you come up with one gay sentence? Until you don't PROVE WWE is better then TNA with more then one fucking sentence then we won't take you as a joke. (yes WE do take you as a joke cause you don't know shit about wrestling and your a fucking clown!)

 

[Hazard]

Does the McDonalds you eat have drugs in them you fucking clown? Christian is one of the best in promos he's better then your champs Edge, Big Show and Booker T. Who said he was a legend in the first place? I bet if WWE buys TNA you'll think TNA was the best just because your boyfreind (Vince McMahon) told you it was. You'll just posting hate against TNA cause you're scared that it will overpower the WWE like WCW almost did. What arguments do you have? I see everyone in this thread besides you put up good arguments and you come up with one gay sentence? Until you don't PROVE WWE is better then TNA with more then one fucking sentence then we won't take you as a joke. (yes WE do take you as a joke cause you don't know shit about wrestling and your a fucking clown!)

Word,

I also agree with iamwrestling, it just going to take time before TNA starts to compete with the WWE.

 

[Banned Dysturbed]

Does the McDonalds you eat have drugs in them you fucking clown? Christian is one of the best in promos he's better then your champs Edge, Big Show and Booker T. Who said he was a legend in the first place? I bet if WWE buys TNA you'll think TNA was the best just because your boyfreind (Vince McMahon) told you it was. You'll just posting hate against TNA cause you're scared that it will overpower the WWE like WCW almost did. What arguments do you have? I see everyone in this thread besides you put up good arguments and you come up with one gay sentence? Until you don't PROVE WWE is better then TNA with more then one fucking sentence then we won't take you as a joke. (yes WE do take you as a joke cause you don't know shit about wrestling and your a fucking clown!)

Warning for flaming!!!! Keep up that behavior and you can add yourself to the list in your sig. You've above this. How about asking the guy why he feels the way that he does or giving your insight as to why you disagree instead of acting like a little kid and resorting to the kind of behavior that's likey to get you banned, only for you to return and start a generic "why was I banned thread?" like other supposedly innocent posters that dont' know how to treat others. Like I said you're above this.

 

[iamwrestling]

u have some very good points. however about the soap opera stuff. i think they over do it sometimes too, but it helps hype up matches in a way that tna doesnt. also ppl can complain about wwe not pushing ppl but they have infact pushed a lot of wrestlers and created big big stars like the rock, stone cold, triple h and michaels. you might say that some of those guys arent good wrestlers but overall with the mic skills and fan hype thrown into the mix, those wrestlers have done very well. lastly, i understand ur predictions are definatly possible but that stuff is way too far away to think about, i mean theres so many things that have to happen. i understand all u points though, and u have a good argument. im a big wwe fan, but i admit there are things that tna has edges over and vice versa. we'll just have to wait and see what happens

Finally a classy post by a WWE fan. See, you're actually man enough to admit that TNA has some stuff over WWE. I'm man enough to admit that a lot of the guys in TNA don't have good mic skills (still, a lot of guys are coming along). I'm man enough to say that J.R. is 40 times better than Mike Tenay will ever be. I just can't see why WWE fans can't just admit that TNA has better wrestling matches or that Joe is a good wrestler. Anyways, on your Austin, Rock, HHH, Michaels thing, that was in the ninties when Vince McMahon actually had his head on straight. Now he's giving the pushes to people like Booker T, Umaga, Spirit Squad, etc. By the way, the four guys you listed, they were some of the best in-ring performers of all time, especially The Rock and Shawn Michaels.

 

[steveo]

steiner WAS FIRED by wwe

 

[iamwrestling]

Why are you bringing back a thread that dies a long time ago just to say that Steiner was fired. Who cares, Steiner never even shows his face any more. By the way, Bret Hart was kicked out of WWF. So by your logic Bret Hart isn't one of the best ever because he was ran out of WWF and by your logic is indeed a WWE reject.

 

[Jonny B]

There was no need to even respond to this Thread, if you think it was pointless the only thing you responding to it is going to do is keep it up the page for longer. Remember there is a Sticky Thread for this crap now.