TNA=WWE rejects? HA!

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Kurt Angle is the first true WWE superstar who has jumped ship But there is no way he is a WWE reject. This is the first sign of TNA actully being competitve.

But being Envious?? Don't think so.
Not yet.

Kurt Angle may have been a WWE superstar BUT he was not the be all and end all of the WWE.

Good score for the TNA though.
 
There isnt any "rejects" in TNA.. Just people who were misused in the WWE like Raven, Cage, Team 3D etc. Calling them rejects is just like calling a free agent in another sport a reject.. Its just dumb. TNA just basically picks up what the WWE loses. Calling them rejects is disrespectful. I would like to see anyone here try to do a better job then the "rejects".
 
Frank Thomas was a reject of the White Sox I would assume, does that mean that his .271 avg. with 38 HR and 109 RBI don't matter. I guess by most WWE fans who call TNA wrestlers who used to be in WWE, "rejects" then yes, I guess they don't matter. See what I'm getting at.
 
loving the banter!!!
they ain't rejects - i side with those above who have said it - JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE FREE AGENTS AND RELEASED BY WWE DOESNT MAKE THEM REJECTS YOU BUNCH OF DISRESPECTFUL MORONS.
 
Man fuck this whole rejects thing. How about this for rejects... Kid Kash and Justin Credible were just released from WWE. And you know what?? I would fkn love to see them in TNA.

I dont give a shit what these TNA bashers would say. These two are some very talented dudes who got fired for voicing their opinions and giving Vince and his creative team shit, and let them know what a fkn awful job they were doing. That doesnt make them rejects. IT DOES make them the only guys in the company without shit on their noses (from all the brown-nosing for those who dont follow), and who actually have a set of balls and let WWE know when they are fucking up. This remind you of Kurt Angle and Kazarian (Kazarian walked out himself though) anyone?? Anyone else think that simply diagreeing with creative will get you fired??

Hopefully RVD has a huge falling out with Vince too. Paul London, Kendrick, Noble and CM Punk would also be a nice addition to TNA. But until then bring in Palaco (JC) and Kash. They are unique competitors with a shitload of talent and who have an original gimmick and charisma. And seriously to TNA - take that $500,000 your giving Sting and throw it at Punk to bring him over. Vince won't match it, he doesn't think the kid is worth that much. The dude is the future of this business, whether people like it or not.
 
Angle is NOT a reject because he was not with the WWE anymore.

Angle at that time HAS THE RIGHT to go to TNA if he want to
 
Ok if TNA= All WWE Rejects Thank WWE= All WCW and ECW Rejects...Because as soon as they won that war they took as much as they can get...So dont come with this bull shit TNA=WWE Rejects.
 
What it all boils down to is that the same wrestler can have or be given a different impact when in a different situation based on different conditions, needs, etc. It goes beyond a midcarder switching companies to become a main eventer, a main eventer switching companies and becoming a midcarder, etc . It even happens within the same company (WWE) simply by someone switching brands and suddenly having a bigger impact. The "reject" excuse is just another way for people to bitch and nitpick.

Sure, if someone is flat out released by a company that means that they were rejected but why throw out the term "reject" in an insulting fashion. I question whether or not people who continuously use that term as means of trashing tna call themselves rejects if they ever were to lose or quit a job and go to another one. If not then those people are hypocrites.
 
I think the move to get angle is great for TNA. Also their primetime spot on spike shows that even the network is behind their product. Spike probably pushed as much to get Angle as TNA did. I also could see Mike Awesome coming to TNA after seeing a recent post on myspace by him. Great to see another organization giving Vince a run for his money. Competiton forces a better product for everybody.
 
TNA in a few years time,will surpass wwe.As soon as the wrestling fans notice that theres a greater talent pool and a hell of a lot better matches,there will be no turning back
 
This New timeslot will do wonders with the addition of Angle and more airplay that Spike is putting towards TNA!
 
the new timeslot is a one time thing then it will go back to thursdays at 10 pm cdt

Untill tna goes to 2 hours they shouldnt get anymore talent becase theres not time for every one who wants air time to get air time. WWE encouraged angle to go to tna becase of the lighter work load. Tna should however make angle seek treament for his pain pill addiction
 
iamwrestling said:
To those of you that call TNA the bin of the WWE because they have some wrestlers that used to fight in WWE, think about this:

WWE's TNA midcard rejects:
Shannon Moore. Formerly Prince of Punk Shannon Moore. He's now one of the top wrestlers on WWECW, and he was nothing more than a TNA midcarder.

Paul London & Brian Kendrick: Two more TNA midcarders who are now holding a belt in WWE!!!!!!!

Jeff Hardy: Another TNA reject that was nothing more than a midcarder when TNA got rid of him (That's right, they got rid of him. That's a real reject, not like Christian who left WWE on his own.)

Kid Kash: Another TNA midcarder who was fired and then went to WWE and won gold (specifically Cruiserweight gold).

Sabu: Anothe TNA midcarder that is now on top of a WWE brand. He's basically one of ECW biggest wre...extremists when he couldn't even get a title match in TNA.

Tony Mamaluke: Another TNA reject in ECW.

Now, most of those guys I mentioned are receiving huge pushes in the WWE while they were getting no attention in TNA. Same thing goes for Christian. Does this mean that simply because they received no attention in a certain company that they're any worse of wrestlers because of it? No. Does it mean that because WWE released the outlaws that they're still not one of the best tag teams of all time (Same goes for the Dudleys). Just because WWE didn't pay attention to Rhino, does that mean that he's not possibly one of the best wrestlers to ever come out of ECW. Bret Hart was a reject of WWF at one time, did that make him any worse? Does that mean he wasn't the excellence of execution any more? No! Just because of what one company thinks of someone isn't good, that doesn't mean they're not good.

You're an idiot. Shannon Moore is a jobber in ECW. He was never a star in WWE. Hell, he was never even in midcard. Most of his push was in cruiserweight division and now he's stuck jobbing to CM Punk or whoever else VInce wants him to job to.

How the hell is Tony Mamaluke a TNA reject when he was in ECW first? Plus, when was the last time WWE used him for anything?

London and Kendrick? Are you kidding me? Don;t ever connect the two of them with TNA. They were born and made in RoH where both of them played big roles. And also they are both very talented and charismatic int he ring.

Jeff Hardy? WTF, how can you connect him with TNA? He wrestled what, 5 times there? He was born and raised in WWE where he got a spotlight and runs with IC title and even a feud against Undertaker. Jeff was big in WWE until he started doing drugs and quit. And then TNA picked him up trying to use him as a big draw by having him feud for X division title right of way which didnt work. Then he feuded Jarrett for TNA world title and started noshowing. TNA didn't fire him because his shit was selling and when his contract ran out he cleaned himself up and decided to come back to WWE.

Kid Kash? Hello, X Division champion? Ring a bell? How was he ever a big star in WWE and when does WWE give a fuck about cruiserweight division? He won the strap there and dropped it. Then he got stuck in a creativeless tag team with Knoble until he got fired.

And man, you should really not talk about things you know nothing about. How the hell can you call Bret Hart a reject. He held WWE title 5 times. he beat the best there including Austin, Undertaker, HBK, Flair,...What the hell? He was in WWE for 14 years and for the last 5 the company revolved around him. Vince screwed him over because he couldn't afford him.

As long as who is the "best" goes, we will see about that. Will Rhino draw high PPV buyrates? I doubt so. When TNA starts getting pressured to make money instead of lose it by millions/year they will have to think about who can make money for them and draw the fans into the seats. And when that happens we'll see where all of the WWE guys that they got will stand. But if you want a real reject lift, I'll give you one.

Jeff Jarret
Kevin Nash
Scott Hall
New Age Outlaws
Jerry Lynn
Shane Douglas
X-Pac
Raven

What is TNA, a pre retirement home?
 
To those of you that call TNA the bin of the WWE because they have some wrestlers that used to fight in WWE, think about this:

WWE's TNA midcard rejects:
Shannon Moore. Formerly Prince of Punk Shannon Moore. He's now one of the top wrestlers on WWECW, and he was nothing more than a TNA midcarder.

Paul London & Brian Kendrick: Two more TNA midcarders who are now holding a belt in WWE!!!!!!!

Jeff Hardy: Another TNA reject that was nothing more than a midcarder when TNA got rid of him (That's right, they got rid of him. That's a real reject, not like Christian who left WWE on his own.)

Kid Kash: Another TNA midcarder who was fired and then went to WWE and won gold (specifically Cruiserweight gold).

Sabu: Anothe TNA midcarder that is now on top of a WWE brand. He's basically one of ECW biggest wre...extremists when he couldn't even get a title match in TNA.

Tony Mamaluke: Another TNA reject in ECW.

Now, most of those guys I mentioned are receiving huge pushes in the WWE while they were getting no attention in TNA. Same thing goes for Christian. Does this mean that simply because they received no attention in a certain company that they're any worse of wrestlers because of it? No. Does it mean that because WWE released the outlaws that they're still not one of the best tag teams of all time (Same goes for the Dudleys). Just because WWE didn't pay attention to Rhino, does that mean that he's not possibly one of the best wrestlers to ever come out of ECW. Bret Hart was a reject of WWF at one time, did that make him any worse? Does that mean he wasn't the excellence of execution any more? No! Just because of what one company thinks of someone isn't good, that doesn't mean they're not good.

dude what ? Kid Kash held X Division belt and was an X Division pioneer. As for Moore wasent he only in the Company for a little bit ? and For Hardy, He was in main events i dno what the fuck your talking about with that one.
ANd if their TNA rejects, well their in ECW a shit company so i really dont consider that successful.
 
Kid Kash: Another TNA midcarder who was fired and then went to WWE and won gold (specifically Cruiserweight gold).

Fired.


Shannon Moore is a horrible wrestler and will hopefully soon be fired.
 
Oh yeah and how the hell can you call Sabu a TNA reject. He had a great career before ever coming to TNA. He was the original ECW champion, he held a belt in FMW and was famous on more continents than any TNA wrestlers.
 
Considering Kurt, Christian, Team 3D, Rhino, etc all actually asked for a release, how can they be rejects? They rejected WWE, not the other way around. And then how about Abyss, Styles, Joe, etc who all REJECTED WWE contracts.
 
Tna cant afford to have a jackass like kid kash in their lockerroom.again,now that their making strides to be something other than "the new wcw"
 
[ WALKER ] said:
And then how about Abyss, Styles, Joe, etc who all REJECTED WWE contracts.

Do you have any proof that shows us that these people actually refused WWE Contracts. It was reported on a news site right? That doesnt make it true. They often post untrue stories to get more hits, just like news papers, print "exaggerated" stories so do Wrestling News Sites. Dont state something as if it were fact if you dont actually know it is in fact true.

I'm really sick of these WWE/TNA debates, there have been so many, I really hope the mods get rid of these Threads, and soon.
 
you try to get around the fact that tna is not another wcw well it is
people call there wrestlers rejects thats the wrong word maybe washed up wrestlers will fit you have people like jarret who is there top guy he was nuthin but a shit european ic mid carder in the wwe with crap storylines he went to wcw when it was failing and now is at tna he cant even hold down a job
then you have sting i have loads of respect for the guy but tna are killing him and his legacy u talk about the edge and cena feud goin on for months lt me see since sting has been back he has feueded with jarret no one else acept jarret wow that is exciting
then someone said that aj styles abyss and joe truned down wwe contracts well i can bet they will be there in a few years
you talk about wwe not using there talents properly well wtf is tna doin there gie christian the strp and have feud with some boring people and lose it to oh let me guess jeff jarret wot a surprise christian is a pile of shit in tna then you have rhino who turned down goin back to wwe wtf is he doin now he is feuding with christian with the most boring story line to date omfg
then they use kevin nash in the x devison now wtf ye lets use a 6ft sumthin bloke agaisnt peopl at the height of 5ft now thats gonna draw ratings ut doesnt matter how you look at it but tna doesnt draw ratings heck even smackdown is beating impact it doesnt make much money it pays 4o sumthin wrestlers to wrestle for them it rips off old sotry lines from wwe and wcw and employes some of the most shittest people in wrestling today i.e vince russo, and jim cornette
 
iamwrestling said:
To those of you that call TNA the bin of the WWE because they have some wrestlers that used to fight in WWE, think about this:

WWE's TNA midcard rejects:
Shannon Moore. Formerly Prince of Punk Shannon Moore. He's now one of the top wrestlers on WWECW, and he was nothing more than a TNA midcarder.

Paul London & Brian Kendrick: Two more TNA midcarders who are now holding a belt in WWE!!!!!!!

Jeff Hardy: Another TNA reject that was nothing more than a midcarder when TNA got rid of him (That's right, they got rid of him. That's a real reject, not like Christian who left WWE on his own.)

Kid Kash: Another TNA midcarder who was fired and then went to WWE and won gold (specifically Cruiserweight gold).

Sabu: Anothe TNA midcarder that is now on top of a WWE brand. He's basically one of ECW biggest wre...extremists when he couldn't even get a title match in TNA.

Tony Mamaluke: Another TNA reject in ECW.

Now, most of those guys I mentioned are receiving huge pushes in the WWE while they were getting no attention in TNA. Same thing goes for Christian. Does this mean that simply because they received no attention in a certain company that they're any worse of wrestlers because of it? No. Does it mean that because WWE released the outlaws that they're still not one of the best tag teams of all time (Same goes for the Dudleys). Just because WWE didn't pay attention to Rhino, does that mean that he's not possibly one of the best wrestlers to ever come out of ECW. Bret Hart was a reject of WWF at one time, did that make him any worse? Does that mean he wasn't the excellence of execution any more? No! Just because of what one company thinks of someone isn't good, that doesn't mean they're not good.
you sure like to talk alot, i think the word you are looking for is free agent in sports there is no turncoats/rejects you see someone that could help your team and you pick them up tna is doing what wcw did get the good free agents you can't blame them for that and the same gose for wwe now i will admit that tna has more former wwe stars then wwe has ever had but wwe's been around forever and most every guy in tna has work for wwe in dark matches are in someway and i don't see it as a bad thing,another thing you can't say wwe did a bad job for picking up guy who "couldn't cut it" in tna and prise the guys who "couldn't cut it in tna".
 
iamwrestling said:
To those of you that call TNA the bin of the WWE because they have some wrestlers that used to fight in WWE, think about this:

WWE's TNA midcard rejects:
Shannon Moore. Formerly Prince of Punk Shannon Moore. He's now one of the top wrestlers on WWECW, and he was nothing more than a TNA midcarder.

Paul London & Brian Kendrick: Two more TNA midcarders who are now holding a belt in WWE!!!!!!!

Jeff Hardy: Another TNA reject that was nothing more than a midcarder when TNA got rid of him (That's right, they got rid of him. That's a real reject, not like Christian who left WWE on his own.)

Kid Kash: Another TNA midcarder who was fired and then went to WWE and won gold (specifically Cruiserweight gold).

Sabu: Anothe TNA midcarder that is now on top of a WWE brand. He's basically one of ECW biggest wre...extremists when he couldn't even get a title match in TNA.

Tony Mamaluke: Another TNA reject in ECW.

Now, most of those guys I mentioned are receiving huge pushes in the WWE while they were getting no attention in TNA. Same thing goes for Christian. Does this mean that simply because they received no attention in a certain company that they're any worse of wrestlers because of it? No. Does it mean that because WWE released the outlaws that they're still not one of the best tag teams of all time (Same goes for the Dudleys). Just because WWE didn't pay attention to Rhino, does that mean that he's not possibly one of the best wrestlers to ever come out of ECW. Bret Hart was a reject of WWF at one time, did that make him any worse? Does that mean he wasn't the excellence of execution any more? No! Just because of what one company thinks of someone isn't good, that doesn't mean they're not good.

That just like talking about Stone Cold Steve Austin who was a mid card wrestler in WCW. ECW and WWE made Stone cold what he is because WCW did not see his value. The lack of understanding who your talent is not a plus but it is a damn shame. Maybe they should of pushed Sabu instead of Double J. Jeff Jarrett made his name in WWE. Just because TNA could not capitalize on the "Charismatic Enigma" is not good.
 
iamwrestling said:
You just answered your own question. The people who left WWE are anti-wwe. And don't say that TNA is all WWE rejects, because Paul London, Brian Kendrick, Kid Kash, CM Punk all held title in WWE after leaving TNA. And Jeff Hardy and Shanon Moore and Sabu aren't far from holding a title in WWE either. So, yeah, all wrestling promotions steal other wrestlers, but that doesn't take away from their ability. Bret Hart left WWE, does that mean that he's a bad wrestler? If you say yes to that question you should never watch wrestling ever again.

No, but alot of wrestler were having problems getting over with fans that WWE release or let go with the exception of Angle who was let go to heal. WWE are not using main eventers of other brands that often. It cheaper that way. If TNA signs Bret Hart, it be like Bret in WCW. Popping for a bit and then falls out. How many times can we watch Bret vs. Sting. Or Jarrett vs. Sting. Or Jarret vs. Bret. Or those three vs. Angle. I admit the first King of the mountain match I would watch with those four, but after that is become repetitious. Because no one else will get over in TNA.
 
iamwrestling said:
Shut down. By the way, TNA fan's getting on their high horse? TNA fans just back up their arguments with facts. TNA offers a major announcement and they give a new time slot and Kurt Angle. WWE offers a major surprise and they give the lights being out at the beginning of the show. Wow! TNA sees the fans are growing restless of the storylines, so they bring in Vince Russo to shake things up. WWE sees fans are growing restless of the Edge v. Cena feud so they keep them in a feud for nearly a year now. TNA pushes their top young talent like LAX or Chris Sabin by giving them title matches. WWE would rather put Vince McMahon in a match with two veterans than push their top talent.

WWE fans are the one's who get on their high horse after baiting TNA fans. EX: The thread entitled:TNA=The Bin of the WWE. What about people like you coming over on the TNA threads only to argue about how WWE is superior. Or, people calling the entire roster of TNA "WWE rejects." Get my point?

Hey I like TNA. I one of those guys that looks at all Wrestling except Smackdown. They suck. My point is that using legends only gets you so far. I don't really think they push their young talent. Vicnce Russo is responsible for the demise of WCW. Also TNA has let Russo go so many times because he is not like. Russo has not been a hot writer since he left the attitude era.
 
mysticx0 said:
you act as if wwf never had a record of stealing other wrestlers lol..almost every guy they had in the 80's came from the awa. in the 90's they stole many such as lex luger, ron simmons, kevin nash, brian pillman, the giant and so many more. so if your gonna diss tna for using old wwe talent then diss wwe for building everything they have on the backs and creations of other organizations.

then when you get to be in your 30's like me and you've "seen it all" in wrestling you'll see that wrestlers always come from, go to and bounce around from place to place.

Who were they before they came to WWE. The giant was a jobber by the time he left. Lex Luger was frustrated with his usage in WCW. To be honest, Luger a big baby in my opinion. Kevin Nash was nobody to Shawn Michaels took him under his wing. The Ultimate Warrior and Sting team were hardly famous. The Warrior became a legend through WWE. Shawn Michaels was classified as a Tag Team Specialist. Thanks to Vince and Sherri, he became the icon, showstopper, main event. .
 
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