WWE Championship Tournament Discussion

[AngryCenaFan]

The Miz, no question, WWE has been burying Rey for weeks. if Rey wins ADR cashes in his MITB and becomes champion.

What made no sense tonight, was having ADR in the tournament, when he just won the briefcase.

 

[iwinulose]

-sorry but i dont believe that there will be a new wwe title , which is very upsetting, because we really do need a new one. the spinner was cool for awhile, but now it just doesnt make the cut.

-sadly i think the miz might win even though he sucks and doesnt deserve it... YEAH I SAID IT SO STHU!!! hopefully mysterio wins the title. knowing del rio he will most likely cash in on a weakened rey mysterio (mainly cause he cant win it any other way) and will most likely win the belt.


-sorry to burst anyones bubble, but its unlikely that we will see cm punk back in the wwe unless stone cold accepts a match with him, which could happen, but its kinda unlikely.

 

[itssoeasy123]

It's all irrelevant really.

In my honest opinion, who ever win's next week is going to lose the Championship to Del Rio, who cashes in his Money in the Bank briefcase.

The real question is, will there be a new WWE Chamionship design?

 

[Foshinzo]

I honestly think that Miz will win...and he and Cena will headline Summerslam in a boring WM rematch. I know I'm quite spoiled after this Punk angle, but I just hate when the WWE constantly rehashes these things. I know a lot of people will say that Cena v Del Rio is the Main Event, meaning that Misterio would probably win and Del Rio will cash in, but what's the point in Del Rio holding the belt for three weeks and then just dropping it right back where it came from? It probably will happen, but I surely hope it doesn't. While a Cena v Del Rio match sounds better than the WM rematch, Miz could have a three week run and no one would bat an eye at it because his first run was like, 6 months long, and it gives Cena retribution in a one on one match-up with Miz, which the WWE loves to do. I'd rather see Del Rio wait to cash it in and maybe he and Cena could headline Survivor Series. Give him a couple of chances to retain and see how he does. I don't think Del Rio's first run will be a waste, because they like him too much. Then again, crazier things have happened.

 

[Evenflow DDT]

SummerSlam is in Los Angeles which is home to quite a LARGE Latino population. So I see one of two scenarios...

1. Rey beats Miz and Del Rio cashes in that night and pins Rey, followed by a Summerslam rematch between those two.

or

2. Rey wins and he faces off against a returning Cena and we have the biggest Face/Face ppv main event since Austin/Rock at WM 17.

 

[darthrapture]

Miz wins, fighting through the injury of his leg. ADR comes out, busts up his leg real good, cashes in and wins. The following week, Miz comes out on crutches says he's going to be out for a bit, he tried to work through the injury but Del Rio made sure he couldn't. He then tells Cena to go get him, and keep his title warm until he can come back to fight for it. The Miz face turns, completes.

It's kind of a pipe dream, but I got thinking about it tonight. They played up that injured leg ALOT, and it's not often that the heel, especially someone like Miz fights through an injury like that. Tie that in with the huge pop he got Sunday night as he hobbled back into the ring on his injured leg to try and get the briefcase, and you may have a recipe for something just a little bit different.

 

[mayankeagle]

Well, if Vince's decision of firing cena can be stopped by HHH, surely Vince's decision of proclaiming a new champion next week can also be stopped by him. Punk will remain the champion and will hopefully return next week because without him, Raw will be very boring right now.

 

[Cena's #1 In My Heart]

Here is my prediction...

The Miz is going to win the WWE Championship for the 2nd time, R-Truth might screw over Rey setting up a Summerslam Match. (WWE has a hard on for Miz, they want him to rebuild after the Riley thing...)

HHH or the Raw GM will then announce the main event for Summerslam being... The Miz Vs John Cena in a Wrestlemania Rematch! John Cena will most likely win in that match, and you know why? Because The Rock wasn't there to screw him! Or will he be? Los Angeles... Hollywood... same thing? Ain't that like Rock's playground?

I hope I'm wrong... but sadly.. this is the most predictable WWE answer.

Miz Vs Cena; Truth Vs Mysterio (ehh..)

 

[coleminer4life]

I agree with darth rapture's scenario a little bit. But i see The miz remaining heel, having a rematch with Rey mysterio at Summerslam. I also see SS main evented by Alberto Del Rio defending the WWE title against John Cena, with The Rock screwing John Cena over

 

[ICanSeeTheFuture24]

My prediction is that The Miz will win the title. Not saying at that exact night, but I have a feeling Daniel Bryan will cash it in on him. Thus, bringing back the rivalry between the two. While Alberto Del Rio will cash in on Christian. Bringing back that rivalry as well. That way, it's all relevant.

Jack Swagger was on Raw when he won MITB and cashed in on Jericho the following Smackdown. Just saying. They do switch brands.


If this doesn't happen, then I'm content with CM Punk's reign if he ever comes back.

 

[mikeyado]

Everybody seems to be missing the big picture here, which is that CM Punk must still be signed to the WWE in some capacity.

There is no way on Gods green earth that they would have let him leave the arena holding with the WWE title, as WWE champion, if he wasn't. No way.

Therefore, I very much doubt that we will see a genuine WWE title (which appears to be what they're calling it, terrible name) decider next week. I think Punk will return to interrupt the match and string along the whole thing about him having left the company with the title etc. I foresee Triple H (who could end up being the the GM all along) then managing him to persuade him to 're-sign' and then defend the title at Summerslam against Cena and one other, possibly Rey.

A match I would be fine with after seeing their match at MITB.

 

[BASSER911414]

the funny thing is this thread is about rey mysterio vs miz for the wwe championship yet people are talking more about cm punk, alberto del rio and john cena than either of the two.

unless cm punk comes back wouldnt it be a bit nice to have a slight change in the program.

maybe give mysterio a decent 2 month long title run... lord knows he deserves it. hes probably the only true veteran left on the roster not counting booker t. and his match on whatever raw is usually the best match of the night. anyone remember his matches with punk and dont say punk carried rey in the matches. no one can make each other look as good in todays wwe... miz has had a 4 month reign... and yes he could do with another title run but not right now. adr can cash in anytime and adr cashing in on mysterio is too cliche. kane cashed in on rey just last year.

give mysterio a 2 month reign then have him face cm punk or whoever for a unification match which he loses. just because adr won the mitb doesnt mean he has to cash in as soon as possible

i honestly hope mysterio wins and starts getting the credit that he deserves

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

It's all irrelevant really.

In my honest opinion, who ever win's next week is going to lose the Championship to Del Rio, who cashes in his Money in the Bank briefcase.

The real question is, will there be a new WWE Chamionship design?

Why did that not make any sense? In essense, he was the number one contender, so if anyone HAD to be in, it should have been him. Plus it gave them a lot of storyline opportunities. I thought it'd be awesome if he wont the tournament AND had the briefcase. Kinda blocking any chance of a guy walking out and cashing in. Plus you could have had a scenario where he wins the belt it the tourney, loses in in a match, invokes his rematch clause, loses, cashes in, and wins it. He would have lost twice and eventually won it back within an hour.

That's not what happened, however, but now we get to wait and see when he will cash it in.

As for Mysterio vs Miz, I think it made a lot of sense to postpone it. From a kayfabe standpoint and from a "make them want to tune in" standpoint. It's not like they played half the match then cut it off. It's a title match main event to be hyped all show. I'm interested to see what happens next so they did a great job.

My guess is the same as everyone else's, Mysterio wins, ADR cashes in. Of course, because everyone thinks that, it probably won't happen.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

This is really lame but this is what WWE will do I think. Before the Miz-Mysterio match, Cena will say to Triple H it's not fair that he wasn't allowed to invoke his "rematch clause" and that he wasn't in the tournament so Triple H will make Cena fight in squash match, if he wins, then the title match on RAW becomes a Triple Threat - Miz vs. Mysterio vs. Cena for the belt and of course Cena wins.

Either that or CM Punk comes back next week (with Triple H saying that once Vince was gone, Punk agreed to re-sign) and so Miz-Mysterio- Cena becomes a #1 contender's match.

There's a small chance, IMO, that Mysterio wins the belt then ADR cashes in MITB to become the new champion and it's ADR vs. Cena at Summer Slam for the belt.

 

[tweedledee49]

but you gotta remember that when Swagger won the MITB, it was before MITB had its own PPV and before there were 2 cases.

As for next week, I see HHH doing something and we wont have this match next week I get the feeling, that we wont have a champion until SS.

 

[Mr. Cash Cow]

There's only 2 things i can see happening next week.

1. Triple H brings back CM Punk and says that he is still the WWE Champion, therefore, the match is worthless.

2. If the match does go ahead, Alberto Del Rio will cash in his money in the bank contract.

The Miz has just had a long title run, and Rey will probably retire within the next few years, and his injury problems are well known within the WWE.

 

[Mustang Sally]

If the match does go ahead, Alberto Del Rio will cash in his money in the bank contract.

It's interesting to read how many of you feel C.M. Punk will be back next week. If he is, it makes me think that the seemingly "legitimate" feelings we thought Punk was expressing during his program were totally kayfabe. At the very least, I thought he intended to use his contract expiration as an excuse to take a few months off. Obviously, that goes out the window if he's back next Monday.

Last night's tournament disappointed me, in that I didn't want any of those guys to become the new champion. Did anyone seriously think Kofi or Riley had a chance? As it is, the two guys in the final match leave me cold. We've already had a recent title reign by Miz, and I was thrilled when it ended.

As for Rey, I think the company has indulged this guy far too long, having him defeat huge opponents (I still remember Drew McIntyre clotheslining Rey....and having to do it from his knees to make it look real). I believe having Rey beat these big guys strains credibility and makes the product look more make-believe than we already know it is. As a cartoon character, he's fine.....but not as world champion.

So I'm going with some of the others in this topic; I don't think either Miz or Rey will become champion. I don't know if Punk is involved, or if Del Rio will be cashing in his MITB.

But something is up and we won't know what it is until next week. The element of surprise is one of the things I love about watching WWE. I certainly never expected Cena's job to be saved by Vince McMahon being relieved of his position, so I presume something equally unexpected is in store for us next Monday.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I'm not sure that either guy will be WWE Champion after the end of next week.

Vince McMahon is the one that created the tournament and the WWE Board of Directors "relieved" Vince of his duties as WWE Chairman and appointed Triple H as his replacement. The tournament could be viewed as another one of those questionable decisions that led to the board voting to remove Vince. As the tourney was Vince's idea, maybe Triple H will show up next week and decide that there won't be a WWE Championship final.

I don't expect the WWE Championship to be seen on Raw for a little while. I might be wrong but I think that they'll ultimately wind up using Triple H to "resign" CM Punk to the WWE and he'll be the WWE Champion when he returns.

Last night's Raw was a chapter on this ongoing story with CM Punk. With Triple H as "WWE Chairman", it'll be seen as a "good business decision" to bring Punk back.

 

[byrnside]

My prediction/hope is that a new champion is crowned next week on RAW. I'm really hoping for a redesign of the title. That champion will likely hold the belt until C.M. Punk returns aka "invades" with the title somewhere down the line in some sort of an anti-establishment, Stone Cold type persona and for him to possibly move on to feud with Triple H.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

I really did not understand one thing. Punk has supposedly left with the WWE title hasn't he? That means that the winner of this tournament cannot be crowned as the WWE Champion, because, after all there is no WWE title. Now it is possible that the WWE has created another title belt but I think that WWE should have sold the impact f losing the belt much more and how the champion that is crowned will be a paper champion as he would not have beaten the original champion. The new championship will not be anywhere near as prestigious as the original one which is in Punk's refrigerator currently and I feel that that fact should have been emphasized more.

In fact I hope Punk shows up on Raw the next week either in person or by sattelite and says something along the same lines before the title match.

I do not really know who will win but I do hope that it is Mysterio. We have seen Miz vs Cena quite a lot of times in the recent past while we have never seen Mysterio vs Cena. I am, of course, assuming that Cena will face the winner at Summerslam as is often the case. Even if that is not the case I would like Mysterio to win as the heels on the roster are much better than the faces other than Cena and Mysterio vs Any Raw Heel would be a better match up than Miz vs Any Raw face.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

I think that Jackhammer brought up a very good point. The title match does not need to happen as the tournament could be seen as one more of Vince's loony decisions and be scrapped altogther.

But what I'd like to see is for the match to actually happen and for The Miz to win that match. Then HHH comes out and says that he is sorry that he was late( again!) but he has to announce that the tournament has been scrapped and that Miz is not the WWE Champion. I read somewhere that WWE intended to set up a HHH vs Miz feud for next year's WrestleMania and there couldn't be a better place to start than next week's Raw. This could be a good storyline wherein Miz gets screwed in time and again by HHH till he finally snaps.

But the more pressing issue at hand is that of the WWE title. Punk has the real WWE title and the new champion will be nothing more than a paper champion. Nor will the title be anywhere as prestigious. WWE have not mentioned it so far and I do hope Punk shows up next week on Raw, maybe via sattelite and touches on these things.

 

[Wolf Pac]

Punk will be back, I could see this tournament leading to 4 options.

1) We might get a Triple Threat match for the WWE Championship at Summerslam. Mysterio or Miz wins the WWE Championship on Raw then Cena comes out & says he has a rematch clause, so he cashes that in for SS then Punk comes back the next week claiming to the real WWE Champion and we get a Unification WWE Championship Triple Threat match at Summerslam with Mysterio/Miz's WWE Title & Punk's WWE Title.

2) It could be Cena vs. Mysterio/Miz for the WWE Title at Summerslam, Cena wins then Punk comes out right after, claiming to be the real champion and we get Cena vs. Punk in a WWE Championship Unification match for Night Of Champions.

3) Punk can interfere in the Miz - Mysterio match causing a No Contest and says he's back for good, so there's no need for a new WWE Champion then Cena comes out and cashes in his rematch clause, so we get Punk vs. Cena at Summerslam but then again if this option is done then this tournament is absolutely pointless.

4) WWE Championship Unification between Punk & Mysterio/Miz at Summerslam. But with Summerslam being the 2nd biggest WWE PPV, I think WWE needs it top draw (Cena) on the card.

I think I would like to see the 2nd option. I like the idea of Punk vs. Cena in a WWE Title Unification match at Night Of Champions, it's fitting for the PPV. Plus I would like to see Mysterio vs. Cena on PPV, they've never faced off one on one before, so I would pick Mysterio to win the WWE Title on Raw then go onto defend it against Cena at Summerslam. And with CM Punk taking one month off until Summerslam, it would make sense for this whole storyline of Punk leaving with the WWE Title, I mean if he came back after like one or two weeks, would take some credibility away from the storyline.

 

[KettleFace]

Not liking the way this is being done one bit. Pretty much agree with everything Myriad said, however I can see Miz winning the title next week and then Del Rio cashing in his MITB briefcase afterwards and winning the title, therefore setting up Del Rio vs Cena at SummerSlam.

 

[xsKiitz]

What I don't get is where there even was ANOTHER championship decider. Del Rio already won the triple threat a couple of weeks ago, which was for absolutely NO reason now. I don't care if he now has the case, he won a damn #1 contender's match. Does that mean nothing?


And even though he won both that, and the MITB match, he still gets booked to lose to fucking Kofi? KOFI KINGSTON. I can't decide whether WWE are trying to throw swerve balls or are just being lazy with Alberto. Either way, for some reason there was a tourny and Miz and Mysterio are going at it next week.
I personally found it stupid, but then again I loved seeing Miz defeat 2 guys while injured.

Just give Del Rio the belt for fucks sake. I am in no way an ADR mark, but I mean, you give him so many high-profile wins, and major title related wins (rumble, MITB, #1cont) and now there's 2 completely new guys going for the title in front of him. Okay.
I just want something interesting to happen next week and for neither Mysterio or Miz to hold the belt for the time being. And I fucking love Miz.

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[spinningtorturerack]

So I see lots of ideas being thrown about. I definitely think that CM Punk won't be back for the summer. Maybe he'll make some public appearances at football/baseball games with the belt etc but he won't go anywhere near wwe for a while. Which is very good.

In the meantime, a new title will be created for RAW, defended over the summer by whomever, kind of putting things back to normal a bit. I see CM punk returning, in an anti-establishment type thing as a face against a "chosen" type champ (like Alberto or Miz) by HHH or the Raw GM. This would lead a to unification battle between the two wrestlers, maybe at survivor series, giving that PPV a real boost and reason to watch rather than previous years.