Wrestlers that need a different finisher.

[Fuel The Fire]

Who do you think needs to change their finisher? TNA of WWE im sure there is someone out there that you think needs a different finisher.

My vote is going in for John Morrison. Don't get me wrong, the star ship pain does look sick but a lot of the times you can see that he does not land on the guy and to me it takes the belief out of it. I could see it as a signature move but as for a finisher I think that would help him get a bigger main event push. I like a finisher move that just comes out of no where. One example is sweet chin music.

I think something that looks more powerful for John Morrison would help him. Everyone says that he is like the next HBK but I don't know if he is or not but why not give him that same finisher? Of Course I'm not a export in the wrestling business so I don't know exactly what kind of move that should give jomo but I just want something that has that sudden surprise move for a finisher.

 

[Johnny Scumm]

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R-Truth - Lie Detector

Replace For:Anything that's not this. It has to be the WORST finisher I've ever seen in my life. I think maybe some sort of drop or top-rope move would be better for him for sure. His Axe-Kick that he used to use was great, but then Alicia Fox started hitting it better than he did, so that went down the shitter.

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I'd say any of his old TNA Finishers would work, they're pretty good.

 

[Uncle Phatso]

Ok, challenge accepted. For me right now its going To be Kozlov. His finisher the Iron Curtain is for the most part the same as when he was with Ezekiel Jackson. It works for Ezekiel but not so much for Kozlov.

Sure Kozlov is the power of his group, but if your billing him as a Sambo expert. Why not give him a Sambo finisher. I say let Santino do the funny, and re invent Kozlov as a Sambo expert. Give him more leg take downs as Sambo is famous for, give him more of a brawler type like he is, and drop the bullshit. He's funny when he's talking. But give him some sort of submission.

A kneebar would work, or anything. Its quite simple actually, Sambo has hundreds of different variation take downs that you could work a leg based submission out of that isn't and ankle lock.

Since the whole world is so high on MMA right now, and as we see we have a few wrestlers using a Submission Mma type finisher. Why not give the dude who's basically billed as a Sambo fighter a fricking Sambo submission finisher.

Call me crazy but when you have people using cross arm bars and ankle locks that aren't trained in any type of martial arts that’s not mixing well with me. But you have a giant Russian billed as a Sambo expert, and your not giving him anything more than headbutts and an inverted choke slam to beat opponents with? That’s not good booking to me.

 

[sXe_Factor]

I'd say 3 guys need to.
Big Show's KO Punch: Big Show used to punch people. Now it apparently does more damage for unknown reasons.
Should go back to the chokeslam.
Wade Barrett's Wasteland: It just doesn't look effective. It makes the F-U/Attitude Adjustment look strong in comparison.
He should try for more impact.
Ezekiel Jackson: This move is often a very weak looking half rock bottom, half chokeslam thing, that just doesn't work. He should at least do it like a Book-End.

 

[Freddy4190]

Man, John Morrison for sure. That Starship Pain, whilst 'pretty' isn't believable as a finisher. I remember when it was more of a signature move. He should incorporate some sort of sweet ass kick as a finisher, like a super kick type deal. That would be okay. Big Show needs to get rid of that boxing shtick as well. I agree with sXe_Factor. The chokeslam was loads better.

 

[JGlass]

I think Alberto Del Rio needs an ADDITIONAL finisher to compliment his Crucifix Armbar submission maneuver. I just got finished looking through the WWE roster and I must say, while there are a few guys I wouldn't mind seeing have a new finisher (Sheamus or Cody Rhodes perhaps) I didn't see anyone who had a finisher that I just hated.

Del Rio is the only one I saw that I thought could use a little something that's different. Right now he has a few limited ways to win the match: weakening his opponent's arm for the armbar or a typical heel victory like a roll up, tight grabbing, etc.

Del Rio is a pretty big guy, I think he could utilize some sort of swinging back breaker or a lucha libre inspired DDT so give him an additional dimension to his in-ring skills. He's already a solid wrestler, but if he adds a new finisher I think he will truly be ready for the main event.

 

[flyinbukta]

I know he's not really that important, and I know he's probably getting close to the end of his career, so it's something quite irrelevant, but Mark Henry. The World's Strongest Slam has the potential to look like a dominating finisher, but for whatever reason, I've never seen Mark actually put his weight into it properly. If he was to do that, like instead of just slamming them was to do the movement from a Big Splash or something, it'd look like a move that would devastate anyone. So maybe it's just a tweak, but a new finisher would work just as well.

Rey Mysterio. The first half of his usual finisher is perfectly okay, the 619 is awesome, but then he follows it up by jumping onto the top rope, and, well, to put it the best way I can think of, falling forwards. This is possibly the biggest lucha libre star in history, definately the most important high-flyer in the E right now, and you expect me to believe that the best way he has to follow the 619 is by falling off the top rope? I always find it a bit of a let down really.

Those are the only two I can think of who I have a problem with, that haven't already been mentioned. Well, except Santino, but I've just accepted that I won't be happy with Santino while the E has him as a comedy character.

 

[Long Island Iced D]

Juan Cena has the worst move. Best finishers are ones that can be done quick and out of no where like a rko, stunner, or rock bottom

 

[Oracular Spectacular]

I would like to see Daniel Bryan use a more inovative finisher. I was a big fan of Cattle Mutilation and his Tiger Bomb-into-Armbar submission. I also wouldn't mind seeing him use his elbow strikes to knock a guy out.

Truth needs an established finisher. Most people couldn't even tell you his current finisher.

I am totally OK with the Starship Pain, but if he ever goes heel you may need a new finsiher. The Moonlight Drive was cool but but his athleticism he could come up with a new finisher, then name it after some mildly obscure Doors reference that 12 year olds won't catch.

 

[bromandudeguy]

I def agree about JoMo.. starship pain is cool and all, but it should be a signature that he wins with sometimes.. why the hell did he stop doing the moonlight drive anyway?!?

also agree that R Truth probably has the worst one, hands down.

someone that hasn't been mentioned though is mcguillicutty. i mean.. a swinging neckbreaker? im sure at some point he'll realize and come up with something better. at least slater stopped doing his lame variation of a zigzag and started doing a lame variation of paydirt. heh

 

[The Five-Star Frog Splash]

In terms of finishers, I would say these guys need an upgrade:

R-Truth
Lie-Detector: This move couldn't catch me lying when I honestly say that its a horrible finisher. A spinning forearm smash? C'mon WWE...the guy is 38 years old, let him show his talents! He had some awesome moves in TNA back in the day, what's the big deal about not letting him use those moves? Get rid of the spinning forearm smash, stick to the Axe Kick.

John Morrison
Starship-Pain: A commonly complained about move, with good reason. He almost never lands on the opponent? It doesn't help that the camera zooms in on him whenever he does it. Spectacular visual indeed, but I almost feel bad for him seeing as it looks it hurts him more than his opponent.

John Cena
Attitude Adjustment: Not a hater, and to tell ya the God's truth, its not as terrible as I think everyone makes it out to be. But I do wish it was a Death Valley Driver a lot more than the over-exaggerated fireman's carry slam. The one redeeming quality about this move is that it is rarely kicked out of it seems, granted that's more because John Cena never loses and not so much because the move is devastating.

Dolph Ziggler
Zig-Zag: Not to high on the name, or the move. It looks sloppy to me and although im sure it would hurt to have ur neck slammed into the mat, I'm not crazy about it.

Alberto Del Rio
Cross Armbreaker: I actually like this move and am glad WWE is slowly putting more submissionists into the roster, but I feel not so much that the move is bad, but like a previous poster, needs an additional finisher. Besides this, I think that move Alberto currently uses as his "other" finisher is a jumping enzugiri on the top rope. That should be more of a signature move than a finisher. The same idea here should be applied to Daniel Bryan as well.

 

[Himura84]

I definitely agree with most in that Alberto Del Rio needs a new finisher to go along with his cross armbreaker. I think he could either start doing one of Eddie's old brainbuster or powerbomb or even a tiger bomb.

JoMo needs to either use his Moonlight Drive or a variation of his flash kick combined with HBK's superkick.

R-Truth should be allowed to use his facebuster finisher from TNA cuz the lie detector is a crappy one.

I definitely wish Rey would use something different as a finisher, he's had the 619 for what seems like forever.

Last, I think if HHH does come back full time he should start using a new finisher too, just to vary things up. Plus he could do something different to take it easy on his knees. Maybe like the crossface he uses every now and then.

 

[LittleStevie]

There are a few people in WWE who could use a new finisher. Wade Barrett is someone who needs a stronger move with some more impact behind it. Wasteland just doesnt cut it for me, maybe he should go back to the spinebuster he used in FCW or some sort of submission.

John Morrison I think is almost a unanimous choice here. Starship pain is just awful, and makes him look bad more often than not. I do like his running knee smash though and with a catchy name it could become a very good choice for him.

Chris Masters is my final choice. The masterlock was a good move and helped him out a lot earlier in his career but its time has passed. He needs something with some flash and impact to help him get over if he's going to get past jobber status. I've always thought he could do good with a death valley driver for some reason, but thats just me.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Off the top of my head, I can think of a couple.

I think Wade Barrett could use another finisher. Wasteland just doesn't do it for me. It just doesn't really have all that much oomph in my opinion and it just seems kinda weak at times.

Kazarian's finisher just looks fake as all shit. Basically, it's a reverse tombstone pile driver in which the head of the wrestler taking the move doesn't look to even come close to hitting the mat.

I think Hernandez needs to retire the Border Toss. He really could've fucked Douglas Williams up on iMPACT! and it just looks like a disaster that's waiting to happen from a guy that's said ot have a rep for not watching out for other wrestlers inside the ring anyhow.

 

[Eupadrinho]

In my opinion it wold have to be 2 wrestlers... 1º Jonh Morrison,maybe the superkick would work for him,i remember he once beat HBK himself with the superkick... 2º Ezekiel jackson,for soome reason i just see him hiting a "pearl river plunge" type of finisher !!!!
Sorry if my english is bad!!!!

 

[Tech N9ne]

I would have to say John Morrison. There are others of note, but I think with Morrison, it is the difference in his career status. If he had that high impact, out of nowhere, exciting finisher, he would be more over with the crowd.

The moves he uses now are exciting and impressive (Star Ship Pain etc), but they are not that high impact move he should have to finish his matches. I think if he were to have a "Stunner", "Sweet Chin Music" or "RKO" type of maneuver, it would push him over that final hump into Main Event status.

 

[GI Cake]

As many said before me, John Morrison needs an impact finisher to compliment the Starship pain. And Christian needs a quicker finisher, as much as I love the Killswitch, it takes like an eternity for the move to be pulled off, give Christan either a Submission or a top rope move and he can get some major heat.

 

[THEGRANDSLAM]

Anyone with a submission basically, because if you go heel then you'll never beat a big Babyface as babyfaces don't tap.

 

[Zigglerfan227]

I definitely agree that John Morrison and R-Truth needs a new finisher. R-Truth's corkscrew thing is just awful. It is very cool as a regular move but not as a finisher move. John Morrison's starship pain is amazing, but alot of times Morrison never hits his opponent correctly. Morrison should go back to using the moonlight drive. Starship Pain could be used occasionally as a finisher and as a signature move for the majority of the time. I also think that Morrison could use the flying Chuck as a finishing move sometimes.

 

[The Eighties]

The interesting thing about JoMo is he has 4 finisher possibilities, he has SSP, the running knee strike, moonlight drive and the G4, but with his athletic ability I think he could come up with something snappier and more spectacular than any of them.

The Miz could use something new with a better name, the skull crushing finale is messy looking and takes way too long to hook up.

Anderson could use something other than the mic check as well, it takes too long for him to do the leg part of the movie and every time I see it I feel like the guy taking it looks like he has plenty of time to counter it.

I agree with those saying Bryan and Del Rio could do with adding a pin fall finisher to their arsenal.

 

[kronikfish666]

I'm going to have to say Mr. Ziggles sleeper hold, come on now serious? I mean that move worked in the 80's but everyone else uses it and can get out but not his?

 

[stylin'andprofilin']

The Miz, the skull crushing finale is just not something i could believe as a finisher. I liked the reality check!!!!!!!!!!!!! go back to it!