Wrestlemania 31: Lesnar VS Bryan

[HBK89Bill]

I've been thinking about this. What is the rush with Roman Reigns push? Do they think he is going to expire like milk if they don't pounce on him now?

I like the plan of ultimately turning Lesnar's conquering of The Streak and his dominate title run as a way to put someone over at Mania to build a new star. It is clear that WWE wants that star to be Roman Reigns. This is fine, but aren't they being hasty.

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Daniel Bryan is the one who had his title reign stripped from him. He technically never lost the championship. Shouldn't he get the big moment in the sun to continue where he started?

 

[Aeon Mathix]

Bryan already had his moment and it's been obvious since day one WWE never had any plans to push him intentionally. If they want Reigns to be the next big superstar than that is what we are going to get. Besides Bryan has been out since April with injuries, do you really think they are just going to throw him into the main event of Wrestlemania again after he was already in it and had to forfeit the title about a month later? I certainly wouldn't gamble on that. In a match with Lesnar no less.

Daniel Bryan was in that spot because it's what everyone on the planet wanted. Not because WWE wanted him to be. If it was up to them and the audience had kept their mouths shut we would have seen Randy Orton vs Batista for the title and Bryan would probably have been in that match with Sheamus or someone else.

It should be Brock dropping the title to someone they want to launch up as high as they can and whether that be Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, or anyone else for that matter is the right choice as Daniel Bryan had his moment and with circumstances beyond his control it didn't work out. Let someone else have a turn.

 

[Navi]

I've been thinking about this. What is the rush with Roman Reigns push? Do they think he is going to expire like milk if they don't pounce on him now?

I like the plan of ultimately turning Lesnar's conquering of The Streak and his dominate title run as a way to put someone over at Mania to build a new star. It is clear that WWE wants that star to be Roman Reigns. This is fine, but aren't they being hasty.

Daniel Bryan is the one who had his title reign stripped from him. He technically never lost the championship. Shouldn't he get the big moment in the sun to continue where he started?

The rush with the Reigns push is because really the only person they have at the top is Cena. And he's been at it for 12 years now. The WWE is looking for the next top babyface.

As much as I like Daniel Bryan, I truly believe that when they said they didn't want him to win, they meant it. It wasn't just kayafe it was the truth. CM Punk ditching his contract didn't help either.

If you put Reigns and Bryan side by side, Bryan wins out big time in the wrestling category, and marginally on the mic skills, but in the looks department Reigns wins hands down. With more experience he could come close to equaling Bryan in the other two categories as well. Reigns also has a presence, an intensity and a charisma about him that comes about naturally. It's something you can't force, and Bryan doesn't have it. In other words, when Reigns steps into the ring you know he's there, and he means business.

Besides we don't know when Bryan will return, or what kind of shape he'll be in, and whether he can reach the same heights as he did before. Yea sure he'll get a big pop, but wrestling fans are a fickle group, and a lot of the YES movement will have moved on to the ROMAN EMPIRE, as I think they are calling themselves now. Bunch of bloody sheep.

If Bryan can come back and remain healthy I'll sure he'll have another shot at the title, but it's clear the WWE wants Reigns in there, and what the WWE wants the WWE gets.

 

[Zycho32]

Bryan already had his moment and it's been obvious since day one WWE never had any plans to push him intentionally. If they want Reigns to be the next big superstar than that is what we are going to get. Besides Bryan has been out since April with injuries, do you really think they are just going to throw him into the main event of Wrestlemania again after he was already in it and had to forfeit the title about a month later? I certainly wouldn't gamble on that. In a match with Lesnar no less.

Daniel Bryan was in that spot because it's what everyone on the planet wanted. Not because WWE wanted him to be. If it was up to them and the audience had kept their mouths shut we would have seen Randy Orton vs Batista for the title and Bryan would probably have been in that match with Sheamus or someone else.

It should be Brock dropping the title to someone they want to launch up as high as they can and whether that be Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, or anyone else for that matter is the right choice as Daniel Bryan had his moment and with circumstances beyond his control it didn't work out. Let someone else have a turn.

Well...

Bryan already had his moment and it's been obvious since day one WWE never had any plans to push him intentionally. If they want Reigns to be the next big superstar than that is what we are going to get. Besides Bryan has been out since April with injuries, do you really think they are just going to throw him into the main event of Wrestlemania again after he was already in it and had to forfeit the title about a month later? I certainly wouldn't gamble on that. In a match with Lesnar no less.

As stubborn as WWE is, how often do you see someone with sustained pop, however strange and unnatural it seems, be snuffed out by the higher ups? By comparison, Zach Ryder and Dolph Ziggler were flashes at their peaks and it's arguable that the fans didn't keep them relevant. Unlike with Bryan, where the Fans were just not stopping for shit.

That said, Bryan's return will likely be a barometer for who gets said push- if the crowd is just as insanely for Bryan they may not have a choice... again.

Daniel Bryan was in that spot because it's what everyone on the planet wanted. Not because WWE wanted him to be. If it was up to them and the audience had kept their mouths shut we would have seen Randy Orton vs Batista for the title and Bryan would probably have been in that match with Sheamus or someone else.

We've discussed Batista to death. And I've maintained that what they did with him- coming right out of the gate and taking the top babyface storyline, the one set since Summerslam- was so utterly unprecedented that it's hard not to smell Galactic Swerve on the whole move. This wouldn't be WWE stupidly thinking it knows the best way to go, this would be WWE KNOWING the right way to go, going with the wrong thing, and telling everyone to open their mouths to swallow their piss. It's a Heel move. It's a Kayfabe Heel move in Real Life. It defies every rational explanation possible (Movie Star appeal works MUCH better with someone like The Rock, but that's the lone exception).

It should be Brock dropping the title to someone they want to launch up as high as they can and whether that be Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, or anyone else for that matter is the right choice as Daniel Bryan had his moment and with circumstances beyond his control it didn't work out. Let someone else have a turn.

And yet, had Bryan not been injured, would the plan simply be to have him lose to Brock at Summerslam and fade meekly out of the picture?

I tend to think of Reigns as the backup plan if Bryan can't go, or if the pop from this past Road to Wrestlemania doesn't materialize. That's simply not changing.

 

[kadroan]

Well...



As stubborn as WWE is, how often do you see someone with sustained pop, however strange and unnatural it seems, be snuffed out by the higher ups? By comparison, Zach Ryder and Dolph Ziggler were flashes at their peaks and it's arguable that the fans didn't keep them relevant. Unlike with Bryan, where the Fans were just not stopping for shit.

That said, Bryan's return will likely be a barometer for who gets said push- if the crowd is just as insanely for Bryan they may not have a choice... again.



We've discussed Batista to death. And I've maintained that what they did with him- coming right out of the gate and taking the top babyface storyline, the one set since Summerslam- was so utterly unprecedented that it's hard not to smell Galactic Swerve on the whole move. This wouldn't be WWE stupidly thinking it knows the best way to go, this would be WWE KNOWING the right way to go, going with the wrong thing, and telling everyone to open their mouths to swallow their piss. It's a Heel move. It's a Kayfabe Heel move in Real Life. It defies every rational explanation possible (Movie Star appeal works MUCH better with someone like The Rock, but that's the lone exception).



And yet, had Bryan not been injured, would the plan simply be to have him lose to Brock at Summerslam and fade meekly out of the picture?

I tend to think of Reigns as the backup plan if Bryan can't go, or if the pop from this past Road to Wrestlemania doesn't materialize. That's simply not changing.

I can't see Bryan facing Lesnar at WM. However, I could see him being Brock's final opponent before he faces Reigns/The Rock at WM to make him look even stronger.

It's unfortunate but I guess main eventing Royal Rumble against Brock wouldn't be that bad of a feat

 

[FreezeIzGAWD]

LOL.....

I love U guys Man....

If they keep booking BROCK as a BEAST INCARNATE there is absolutely NO WAY A MATCH WITH BRYAN EVEN MAKES SENSE....

PERIOD!

If he dismantled Triple H, beat the Undertaker, DESTROYS JOHN CENA, Beats up the Big Show and then gets by Bryan I will throw up in my mouth

I know U guys hate it because y'all always want some INDY guy that no one but people on obscure countries and websites to HOLD THE WWE, INTERCONTINENTAL, US, ROH, AND Whatever other corny independent company you worship BUT ITS ROMANS TIME....

He looks the part. He feels the part...

Oh and most importantly...

HE IS GETTING THE PART....

I honestly can't imagine why U guys hate him soooooo much...

It's actually funny....

But it doesn't matter....

Roman is the NEXT GUY....

BELIEVE THAT!!!!

 

[pepentorresHHH]

I believe in Bryan over Reigns because of one simple fact. The fans are being led, not forced, into cheering for Reigns. On the other hand, people have gone out of their way to cheer and support for Bryan. They got him to the main event of Wrestlemania. Those little boos that Reigns has started encountering when facing opponents with loyal fans like Rollins could potentially lead to bigger boos.

John Cena was the man with 100% fan support by August 2005 but he entered a long feud with Kurt Angle, and the crowd was booing him by the end of the feud. Someone as new and unproven as Reigns cannot afford to start getting booed this early. And that will happen if he faces Daniel Bryan or fans perceive "Reigns is stealing his spot".

Reigns comes off as a badass and it seems like WWE wants him to have a long and successful career but they have to be careful with Daniel Bryan`s fans and his yes movement.

As far as Bryan vs Lesnar. I could see it happening. What I would have a problem seeing is WWE actually letting Bryan be the one who conquers the man who conquered the streak.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I believe in Bryan over Reigns because of one simple fact. The fans are being led, not forced, into cheering for Reigns. On the other hand, people have gone out of their way to cheer and support for Bryan. They got him to the main event of Wrestlemania. Those little boos that Reigns has started encountering when facing opponents with loyal fans like Rollins could potentially lead to bigger boos.

That's a big factor. While a lot of fans do genuinely like Reigns, like me, he's nowhere near as over as Bryan has been. Whether or not Vince ever intentionally decided to push him as big as he was is incidental, Bryan's popularity with fans was something that couldn't be ignored. Whether it be casual fans, average fans or hardcore fans of men, women or kids, people WANT to cheer for and LIKE cheering for Daniel Bryan. If Vince ultimately wants Reigns as the next John Cena, that doesn't automatically mean it'll happen. Because Reigns fits the "type" of guy that Vince prefers to be THE guy, namely this big ol', muscular stud, some fans will turn on Reigns just because he's that type and because Vince likes that type.

Besides that, having the look won't be nearly enough in this day & age especially. If fans don't want or accept Reigns in that role, it won't happen because they won't invest time in him. Or, I should say, they won't invest the time and interest in him that would be required for the next "face" of the company. Cena's also tirelessly devoted himself to WWE with a work ethic and sense of loyalty that can't be questioned by even the most vehement Cena hater. Plus, fans also want to rally behind guys who they can not only connect with, but who can put on classic matches with great storytelling. Compared with guys like Cena, Bryan, Punk, Ambrose, Rollins, Cesaro, Wyatt, Ziggler, Barrett and a few others, Reigns just isn't in the same league right now whether it be inside the ring, on the mic, as a character or some combination of any or all of the above.

as for Bryan vs. Lesnar, it's a match that pretty much writes itself. Lesnar is one of the few guys in WWE right now that can genuinely put Bryan in the role of underdog. Lesnar's been dominant over the past year or so. Probably CM Punk's last truly great, classic match in WWE was against Lesnar at SummerSlam 2013, Lesnar decimated Big Show & Mark Henry early this year, he broke The Undertaker's 21-0 WrestleMania undefeated streak and he gave John Cena the most dominant and decisive loss of Cena's entire career. It'd be David vs. Goliath and it's a role in which both men can shine. Heyman as Lesnar's mouthpiece has given, arguably, the best promos of the year and Bryan can deliver intense & passionate work on the mic, especially with someone that he can bounce off of like Heyman. I think people would rally behind Bryan and would want to see this "normal guy" rise to the occasion. Whenever WWE's given Bryan a genuine opportunity, he's taken it and made the most of it whether it be his push/heel turn as World Heavyweight Champion in 2011-2012, his feud with CM Punk during the summer of 2012, forming Team Hell No with Kane or his push as a singles main eventer beginning last summer.

If Bryan is as popular as he was, and I see no reason to believe he wouldn't be as there's no one that's come along that's gotten anywhere close to his level of popularity since he's been out, I see more money in Bryan vs. Lesnar than in Reigns vs. Lesnar.

 

[Bruno's Sanctimony]

If WWE truly has no intention of keeping Bryan in the title picture long term, or in even considering him to overtake Brock, then their best bet is to have him make his comeback at the Royal Rumble...win...and, over the course of the next month, have him demand his title shot "sooner" since he "never lost".
Then...he can challenge Brock at Elimination Chamber, lose, and no one can claim that he was "denied" his opportunity.
Meanwhile, Reigns wins the chamber match and begins his Wrestlemania program with Lesnar.

 

[hbkhhh44]

If WWE truly has no intention of keeping Bryan in the title picture long term, or in even considering him to overtake Brock, then their best bet is to have him make his comeback at the Royal Rumble...win...and, over the course of the next month, have him demand his title shot "sooner" since he "never lost".
Then...he can challenge Brock at Elimination Chamber, lose, and no one can claim that he was "denied" his opportunity.
Meanwhile, Reigns wins the chamber match and begins his Wrestlemania program with Lesnar.

This a decent scenario. I think the potential issue with any kind of brock bryan match is if bryan loses even if hes completely destroyed I think it will just get him more sympathy ... last year all over again

 

[MERPER]

Do you want to see Bryan paralyzed?

No, no, no, no, no. This match cannot happen. You can't build Lesnar into a total physical force and feed Bryan to him. Bryan can't logically do anything well in that match and all it takes is for 1 Lesnar missed move or wrong slam/suplex for Bryan's career to end.

I hate to say it but I think Bryan's days of headlining or fighting for the heavyweight belt are over. He's too valuable to risk another long-term or, god forbid, career-ending injury.