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O yeah and one last thing, worse than the main event was the little tidbit.....

during hardy v hardy they had to wipe matt's head cuz he was bleeding!!!! What the fuck I saw miss kittys tits on PPV 8 years ago or so, now I can't even see a smidge of blood. Fuck PG

Who cares about blood. A good match isn't determined by blood.. Yea it can make a match seem more "Brutal" but if it's a good match, you don't need it.

I recall some of the greatest matches of all time having no blood. Stone Cold and Bret had blood, but it was used for the storyline and the reason for him passing out.

There was no blood, but Jeff's ASS bump off the ladder made me cringe worse than a bloody forehead did.
 
Again, how is getting hit with a weapon while the ref is down a 'clean' win?

Ok let's take the CLEAN part out then and let's look at facts..

HHH went over on Orton.. AGAIN..

And made Orton look BAD again..

Yea HHH might have "Cheated" but the fact is, it still made HHH OVERLY dominant AGAIN.

I'll point out another point.

When has Orton beat HHH EVER?? Especially in a high profile match.

It's not really the wins or losses. It's how they are executed. And with Orton and HHH, it always makes Orton look bad.. Clean or not. HHH is still boasting that Orton can't beat him, and once again proves his point.

All the pushing WWE gave Orton, all the hype, was once again dethroned.
 
Who cares about blood. A good match isn't determined by blood.. Yea it can make a match seem more "Brutal" but if it's a good match, you don't need it.

I recall some of the greatest matches of all time having no blood. Stone Cold and Bret had blood, but it was used for the storyline and the reason for him passing out.

There was no blood, but Jeff's ASS bump off the ladder made me cringe worse than a bloody forehead did.

sorry but this is where me and you disagree blood in a match = wrestling tradition, for me anyway. the fact that they have to cover up for it is just despicable.

you don't need it for every match, that's not what I'm implying.
 
sorry but this is where me and you disagree blood in a match = wrestling tradition, for me anyway. the fact that they have to cover up for it is just despicable.

you don't need it for every match, that's not what I'm implying.

What tradition? ECW? Hardly..

It became tradition with the attitude era.. And then we saw HHH bleed every damn week basically. It's just the times.. Just like Blood was around a lot, it isn't now. Oh well.

And i'm not saying blood ISN'T important. I'm saying if its there, its fine, if it isn't there, than no big deal..

I mean, don't get me wrong, if some guy is getting his head scraped on the side of a cage for a while, than yea, throw in blood, makes it more realistic. But if it's not there, than big deal..

I can understand your point. If it is there, than leave it. It's real, make the match more real. But seriously, I think the less blood the better.. Which THEN, when blood DOES appear, it makes it into a "Wow, someones bleeding, this match must be really brutal!"
 
I agree Y4J. You don't have blood for a while it makes a match in which they do bleed into something that looks brutal. But I think if someone is bleeding they shouldn't wipe it clean...let him bleed.
 
Ok let's take the CLEAN part out then and let's look at facts..

HHH went over on Orton.. AGAIN..

And made Orton look BAD again..

Yea HHH might have "Cheated" but the fact is, it still made HHH OVERLY dominant AGAIN.

I'll point out another point.

When has Orton beat HHH EVER?? Especially in a high profile match.

It's not really the wins or losses. It's how they are executed. And with Orton and HHH, it always makes Orton look bad.. Clean or not. HHH is still boasting that Orton can't beat him, and once again proves his point.

All the pushing WWE gave Orton, all the hype, was once again dethroned.


I am not sure that we were watching the same match. Orton was dominating HHH throughout (counter onto the spanish announce table, thrown into the steel steps, rko'd twice). It seemed to me as though Orton would have won after the second RKO had the ref not been out.

I also don't think this hurts Randy at all. This storyline was about him picking apart the McMahons, and eventually getting to HHH. HHH winning at WM just makes sense storyline wise. The good guy defeats the psycho heel. I think people are focusing too much on WHO these people are. If the roles were reversed, would you still feel the same way? No, because you feel Orton needed this win.

He is a good enough character to rebound and still (at least in my eyes) seem a menacing challenge to whoever he faces in the future.

-On to other bad results...

CM Punk winning sort of disappoints me, but I can't say it wasn't surprising.

Matt Hardy winning just seems nice. Matt has been with WWE without much pause, yet Jeff left for a while and still he was the one who ended up winning the title. Matt going over his brother was a nice win for someone who hasn't had much.

Santina winning was hilarious, I don't care what anyone says. This was far better than what would have been a dull female match ending in a face becoming the queen bee of the WWE women's division.

The WORST result in my eyes was Cena dominately winning. Where does he go from here after having beaten one of the best heels in the WWE and the single largest athlete in the world? What more can he do that could seem like a challenge to him now?
 
O yeah and one last thing, worse than the main event was the little tidbit.....

during hardy v hardy they had to wipe matt's head cuz he was bleeding!!!! What the fuck I saw miss kittys tits on PPV 8 years ago or so, now I can't even see a smidge of blood. Fuck PG

Was it really because of the PG rating, or was it more because it was a legit injury that a medic was just checking up on real quick?
 
I must say that wrestlemania 25 was not that bad BUT the ending truly sucked. I know that heels arent supposed to close wrestlemania but come on randy winning at mania would have been great for the wwe.
 
Was it really because of the PG rating, or was it more because it was a legit injury that a medic was just checking up on real quick?

didn't think of that lol, you may be right...if so my only complaint is the crapfest that the call a main event and its finish.
 
Tonight's Wrestlemania was so bad that it would have made a mediocre edition of Raw of it was held on Monday insted.


Also come on, easily the worst part of the show was Kid Rock's brutal performance.
 
For one, it was total bullshit that the tag team unification match wasn't on the PPV. Why the fuck would I wanna watch it on the DVD when I already know what happened? They wasted 12 fucking minutes with Kid Rock's shitty performance. Add about 10 minutes onto that with the diva battle royal, about 5 minutes too long on Micky Rourke waiting to come into the ring and that's almost 30 minutes you could have used for the tag team title matches. On ECW and Smackdown we've been seeing these two teams going at it pretty much every week. While I wasn't that excited or anything, the fact that this was a unification match and they didn't even show it just really pisses me off. At least they did one thing right though, by making Carlito and Primo win. Now they can break up Morrison and Miz so Morrison can finally get a singles push!

MITB was alright. I really was pulling for Christian and I thought he had the fucking match! But I like CM Punk, so I'm alright with him winning. I just kinda figure that he's not gonna win a title this year. Someone has to be the first not to win when they cash it in, and I bet it'll be him after he got the shot last year.

The Diva Battle Royal was a total waste of time. I mean honestly, they didn't even introduce the divas? I have no idea who all of the 25 divas even were.

The legends match was actually better than I thought it was gonna be. While Piper and Snuka did literally nothing in the match, Steamboat really, REALLY impressed me. For his age he did such a great job. A singles match between him and Jericho would have been a lot better, but at least he got some time vs Jericho alone. But after the match, waiting for Rourke, it seemed like it took hours. It really killed the tempo.

The Hardy vs Hardy match was pretty good. I hope its not the last one in their fued. I personally think that they should have a ladder match at Backlash and have Matt win, to put him over even more. Then maybe bring them back together eventually.

Rey vs JBl was total shit. I don't know why they wasted so much time with that match. While I'm a huge Rey fan, it was so stupid having this match on there. JBL's promo, then the stupid 21 second match, then JBL's promo after the match made it seem so long. All for a 21 second match. What was the point in all of that?

I have absolutely NO complaints about HBK vs Taker. One of my favorite matches of all time already. I definitely thought that HBK had no shot in this match, but I was almost convinced he was the winner after the 2 Sweet Chin Musics'. I can't wait to watch this whole match again.

Cena vs Edge vs Big Show was a pointless match IMO. I saw absolutely no reason why Big Show should have been involved and why they made that stupid love triangle angle. I was really hoping for Edge to win this match and not let Cena win the title like he always seems to do.

I like Trips a lot more than most of the IWC do. Randy Orton is probably my favorite wrestler right now too. I have absolutely loved the fued that they've had going on, and I was really excited for this match. While I definitely thought that the HBK vs Taker match would steal the show tonight, I thought RKO vs HHH would be a close second. I was so wrong. The match had no energy and was boring. I really thought Randy should be put over, and made to become the biggest heel in the WWE hands down. But no, they couldn't do it. I was at least hoping for a McMahon heel turn on Trips and aligning themselves with Orton. What a letdown...

All in all the night was okay. But the tag title unification, the Rey/JBL match, the 25 Diva Battle Royal, and the horrible ending to the night really kinda brought it down IMO. I would give the night a B-. The Taker vs HBK match salvaged the rating, or I might give it about a C.
 
Oh boo hoo. Orton fans didn't see their talentless hack win the Main Event. Who gives a fuck.

Anybody stop and think MAYBE WWE doesn't trust Orton 100% just yet? Remember he is 1 strike away from being fired. Or so it says in the rules blah blah. Did HHH hold Orton down by making Randy trash a hotel room? Must have been some Syler HHH shit there.

I said 2 years ago, and I'm saying it now. Randy Orton won't EVER be shit as long as the only people he destroys are people that ALWAYS gets abused and old people.

Now I know, why would I like the HHH win. Simple. I want to see HHH beat Randy a couple times, no DQ you name. Then bring in Hell in a Cell and allow Orton to beat him there. THEN it will mean something.

Besides, everybody talks about how wrestling is PG and it sucks, and I am guilty of that. But if a man ever put his hands on your wife, and then dared kiss her afterwards, you'd go bezerk. You'd go nuts. And the bad guy PROBABLY wouldn't come out of the situation as the better one.

And it's not like Randy is a fucking ratings grabber anyways. He isn't hot, plain and simple. Maybe to internet guys he is, but he's bland. He talks the same, moves the same blah blah. He doesn't even sell a ton of merchandise like Cena.

Orton will beat HHH, he will chase the cat. And when he beats him it will mean SO much more. If Orton can learn to speak in another tone that is.
 
I hate to be an a#@ about this but i personally think this was the worst wrestlemania i have seen in a while for a number of reasons



1.) well overall the only good parts on this wrestlemania was The mitb match and undertaker v. shawn michaels

2.) i was hoping hhh would pass the torch to orton. but come on now its hhh were talking about he wouldnt pass the torch to his own grandmother if he could

3.) havent we seen A tittle switch hands in less than a minute last year? come on get creative.

4.) i didnt like the result of the mitb ladder match. we saw that last year although it was a hell of a match this year

5.) i was hopping austin would make a surprise appearance on the jericho match
 
The finish to the Triple H/Orton match was pretty lame, but Triple H going over wasn't that bad of a move. Contrary to the popular belief here, Trips retaining isn't going to kill the WWE. As anyone else that was there can attest, Triple H was more over than anyone (save HBK/Taker but they're on a whole other level). This won't kill Orton's career, he's still young and will be in the main event for years to come. Orton will get the strap again eventually, and chances are good he'll take it off Triple H. Edge is considered legit, and when was the last time he beat someone clean or won at wrestlemania?
 
What didn't disappoint.. HBK/Taker, anything else?

The top two easily are CM Punk's MiTB victory and HHH's win.

CM Punk is being thrown down our throats more than anyone in recent memory. Yes, more than Cena, yes more than trying to make us believe Khali is a realistic world champion. CM Punk has been given all of these pushes, all failed, so instead of working back up the ladder you give him another shortcut? Negative.

HHH, I liked him before, I usually defend him, but this is terrible. "I am the game, and I'll make you look lame." Is there a face in the rivalry? Orton had more fans in this, and knowing multiple HHH fans they were even upset with this ending. At some point you have to put the guy over. You can carry the belt sporadically, but not constantly. Randy Orton had won the match CLEAN with HHH lying in the ring after the RKO.. why would you make him the clean guy now and have HHH cheat? Does HHH need to look weak to win? I think it was not only bad for Orton as everyone else pointed out, but it wasn't good for HHH either.

Again, fans of HHH, non members of the IWC, hated the ending.
 
Heres whats laughable, the whole 5 years ago crap. 5 years ago HHH stole the spotlight from Orton, won the title from him in no time, 5 years later HHH is still holding him down, cough cough Triple Hulk H Hogan lol
 
I agree with everyone here, Triple H shouldn't have won the main event...shouldn't even had been the main event. They really made Orton look like a big time joke and now I don't think you can ever fully repair that gimmick. The true main event of Wrestlemania 25 was Shawn Michaels vs Undertaker. That was the match of the year in my opinion and for a split second I really thought HBK was going to win the match. I guess I should know better by now but I'm glad they didn't kill the streak. The rest of the card wasn't too bad although the diva battle royal was a disgrace and Kid Rock should not have been on for that long when the tag title match (which they built up for weeks) doesn't even make the PPV. If I was Miz/Morrision and The Colons I would be pissed. Ricky Steamboat showed his love and passion for the business by showing at 56 he can still put on a show. I thought it was a joke that 58 year old Mickey Rourke knocked out Jericho because that made Jericho look like a fool when he, Orton and Edge are the top 3 heels right now. But overall, it was a pretty good Wrestlemania.
 
For some reason I can't edit my post. Anyways, did anybody PRAISE HHH for being the one who tapped out to Benoit when it could have been HBK? What about tapping out to Cena? Tapping out is 10x worse than how Orton lost. HHH was fine. What about last year, Orton went over, I guess he got NO rub from HHH or Cena then either right? What about when he beat Foley, no rub then? HHH lost to the Godwins in a damn pig pen match. He lost to Duke the Dumpster Droese. He didn't whine, or trash hotel rooms, or treat the divas like shit

He busted his ass, worked hard, and had some excellent matches with Taker, Rock, Austin and Manind. If Orton wants the ball, he has show he can carry it.
 
I think CM Punk winning back to back Money in the Bank matches was the worst result of the night. He did not need it and has already had his turn with the briefcase last year and he didn't do much with the WHC so why do the writers and Vince feel that this time things will be different? Unless he loses the case to someone else which I highly doubt. It should have gone to MVP or Christian. I like CM Punk and all but I don't agree with him being Mr. Money in the Bank 2 years in a row.
 
All Im really saying is that the MITB ladder match result was terrible - Yes I'll agree and say that CM Punk is great - very talented - can't wait to see him have amazing fueds with other awesome talent BUT!! I seriously don't like him being Mr. MITB AGAIN!

Im REALLY hoping he looses it to someone like Christian or even Jericho - complete brutality if such happens.

and of course I gotta complain about Randy Orton jobbing to HHH - digusting - the full package loosing yet again to a power hungry son of a bitch.
 
triple h get a clean win over orton is the worst way to end wm. the only bad decision here was not having the taker/hbk match close wm in the main event
 
oh and one more thing - come on people the Big Show is the man. Now the story with him and Edge and that creature Vickie was/is complete shit but Big Show deserves a dominate title run and he definitely deserved to be in the world heavyweight title match at WM25. I mean for goodness sakes he jobbed to that Floyd asshole regardless that he JUST returned a month earlier. He gives alot to the business and he should of won hands down.
 
The worst result of wrestlemania, by far, were two things. One was the 25 diva battle royal. They put so much emphasis on this and even brought back past uber-divas such as Torrie Wilson, Victoria, Sunny, and Jackie only to have Santino win it. Utter nonsense. I laughed, but this is the stuff they should dave for Raw, not the biggest show of the YEAR! The other is the pulling of the Miz-Morrison/Carlito-Primo UNIFCATION match in favor of possibly.....Kid Rock. A world title unification would headline the show, yet a tag title unification cant even make the actual card? This shows how far the tag ranks have fallen in WWE, and its their own fault. They make no effort to push it, then try to add flavor to it by making it a lumberjack match(stupid idea, imo), then make it a pre-card match so Kid Rock can sing, and Autin can drink 23 beers. This is the reason WWE loses viewers.
 
Homo ***** Humper Hunter is the biggest cancer in wrestling history. He can't work for shit and he needs to f'n hang it up. This is by far the WORST main event since Bam Bam and L T but at least that match didn't put people to sleep. The rest of the show gets a B while the last match gets an F for an Overall B- grade for me. Taker/HBGay should have been the main event.
 

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