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Why did the WWE fire CM Punk?

Its a company who just spend millions on a huge risk that could kill the company if they muck it up.
As a owner, you cant have one of your workers doing whatever the hell he wants. Yes Punk is a great wrestler, yes he a draw, he is good. But as an employee, maybe he was an asshole. I dont know. Maybe Vince didnt like that he walked out when he paid him Millions.
At the end of the day, put yourself in Vinces shoes, just logically. If you have a company, you put all your egg in one employees basket, and that employee walks away with it during lunch since he doesn't want to go to work and wont come back. Fire him, as an owner Vince had all the right to do this.
Morally it could have been wrong, but WWE is a business. And just like Stone Cold said that every wrestler is a gear in a machine. And when they get used up a new gear takes their place.
 
Because he walked off the job and refused to work. That's pretty much something that gets you fired from any job.

He most certainly did quit- that's the essence of refusing to show up to work- but he used the word "fired" to describe receiving his severance papers. While he was, by the strictest possible definition, fired, it would be more accurate to say he quit his job and his former employer sent him the related paperwork.

.....on his wedding day, of course.
 
For those putting most of the blame on Triple H, how ironic that he was apparently the last one to try to contact Punk. According to Punk's own story, I think the way he treated that final attempt at contact was the last straw for everybody involved. I understand that he was days away from his wedding, but when Triple H sent him a text asking to talk, he also could have chosen to say something like "I have 10 minutes to offer you in which I need to know what you want, and then I have to get off the phone". Instead, he offered to talk a week plus later once the wedding and honeymoon would be over.

At other moments during his various interviews, Punk tries to claim that nobody tried to contact him, nobody expressed an interest in bringing him back, nobody let him know that his suspension was over, but then we have the admission that Triple H sent him this text but the opportunity for a conversation was blown off.

I am NOT arguing that someone about to get married should have been able to afford getting into an hour long argument on the phone. But there is a middle ground between that and kind of blowing off the issue and not offering to talk until he came home.

I have no doubt in my mind that if that final attempt at contact had gone a bit different, Punk might be back already. (Except now he is contradicting himself in other interviews by saying he already knew he wanted to go to UFC in January/February, in which case Punk is just a total liar and there is nothing anyone from WWE was going to do that could bring him back).

Imagine you're the WWE, specifically Triple H none the less, put in the position of reaching out to this guy who has walked away and gone home, and you try to extend the olive branch and ask if the guy has time to talk, and you're told "as soon as I'm home in a week". If I were in that position, I would no longer care about really having a conversation with that person either. And Punk probably knew what he was doing, let's see if we can push their buttons some more, let's see if I can humble them and put them on my timetable and tell them I'll make time for them in a week. I don't blame WWE for firing off some termination papers at that point.
 
While he was, by the strictest possible definition, fired, it would be more accurate to say he quit his job and his former employer sent him the related paperwork.

That's what I've been saying; that the termination papers officially cancelling his contract happened to arrive on Punk's wedding day was incidental....he wasn't fired, he quit.

As to whether or not he was being paid after he walked out....but before he was technically separated from the company....depends on the terms of his contract.

I work under a contract, with the terms specifically spelled out....and I can say this; if I choose not to work, the organization doesn't have to pay me.....in fact, I don't know why they would. If WWE continued to pay Punk after he walked, I presume it was because they had hopes of working things out with him. After it became apparent it wasn't going to happen, they sent through the separation documents.

They fired Evan Bourne. They fired Drew McIntyre. They didn't fire CM Punk.
 
judges have thrown out Punk and ADR's no compete clause

Oh please dont lie. They didnt even go to courts and it was an out of courts settlement with a clause where both parties agreed they cannot disclose what the settlement was.

Fact is Punk has said in interviews in 2013 that he will be retiring in near future (3-4 years time) Then in an interview with Helwani of UFC, he said he wanted to join UFC as soon as he walked out and that at 36 his window is limited.

It is obvious that Punk realized he will never be the top guy in WWE. Cena was always the number 1 guy with Bryan's rising popularity as a face and the rise of Roman Reigns ("Punk make Reigns look good") He would have been the number 4 guy as face.

By January 2013 Orton was the number 1 heel in the company (minus Authority of course) and with Brock in the ranks Punk would've been the number 3 heel by WM. Also given the card being stacked during WM season with top talent like Cena, Orton, Batista, Triple H, Brock, Taker - Punk knew he didnt stand a chance to headline WM.

So what did he do, he stirred some false drama and left the company with the hopes of joining UFC before his time ran out. He himself said he didn't pick up the phone when Vince called/he didnt reply, and then went on to say that WWE didnt bother to contact him hence contradicting himself.

So if you are working for a company and you walk out and doesnt return in 2 months, you are bound to be fired. Punk was never Cena, Rock-esque for Vince and Trips to go behind and kiss his butt. He was massively overrating himself and good riddance he left.

So after keeping quiet for all these time, he reveals his reasons for leaving just days before his UFC signing so marks will sympathize him and he can create a buzz before he signs. I know WWE are no angels but it is hard to believe WWE would force Punk to wrestle with a life threatening injury when it is them who forced the Orton vs DB RAW match to be stopped (against DB's protests) because they feared DB has suffered a concussion, forced Graves to retire because of concussions, Gave 619 enough time to rehab (though not releasing him), Gave Cena (their biggest cash cow) time off. Besides it is the same medic who diagnosed MP's life threatening disease which MVP didnt know about, so I doubt he is inefficient as Punk claims. Not to mention WWE is a public company where Vinnie is accountable to SHs. Had Punk died wrestling injured, it wouldve been massive black mark for WWE with tons of negative publicity and Vince would've been forced to step down as CEO

He was never in HHH's league and for him to say that HHH didnt deserve to wrestle him shows how delusional Punk was. Too bad some are stupid to take all of Punk's claims as gospel.
 
At other moments during his various interviews, Punk tries to claim that nobody tried to contact him, nobody expressed an interest in bringing him back, nobody let him know that his suspension was over, but then we have the admission that Triple H sent him this text but the opportunity for a conversation was blown off.

In all fairness though, why would they try to contact him? He is a self admitted pain in the ass, who doesn't listen to what those above him have to say. He also admitted that he butted heads with upper management almost the whole time he was there. He's the one who walked out, they didn't tell him to leave and go home.

And as for not telling him his suspension was up. Well he, if I remember correctly, stated in the podcast that he was suspended until one day after Wrestlemania. So really if he can't get a calendar out and work out when that is, he's got issues.

After all that they did try to contact him, not at a good time admittedly, but I don't think they had any recourse other than to do what they did.
 
And as for not telling him his suspension was up. Well he, if I remember correctly, stated in the podcast that he was suspended until one day after Wrestlemania.

But when explaining how he left, he said he told Vince and Trips he was leaving and how Trips didnt deserve to wrestle him, how Vince hugged him etc. He never mentioned about being suspended then. So if WWE didnt bother to contact him till his honeymoon, how did he know that he was suspended? Another contradiction by Punk
 
But when explaining how he left, he said he told Vince and Trips he was leaving and how Trips didnt deserve to wrestle him, how Vince hugged him etc. He never mentioned about being suspended then. So if WWE didnt bother to contact him till his honeymoon, how did he know that he was suspended? Another contradiction by Punk

No I firmly remember him saying in the podcast that they either told him he was suspended or he received something in the mail. The suspension was due to be up the day after Wrestlemania. So that meant even if he wanted to come back and wrestle at Mania, he wouldn't have been able too. That seemed to bother him, that they cut him off at the pass.

Considering it's the only time he's really spoken since he left, and I don't know the guy personally, the only place I could have heard that is from the podcast.
 
Remember after he talked with Triple H and Vince (where they hugged), Vince called him back a few weeks- maybe even a month- later and asked if he was ready to come back. CM Punk said no. He was then suspended and later terminated.
 
The reason why they terminated his contract is because he refused to work. Imagine hiring someone to do work on your house, they come over and let's say that they only do half the work. Would you want to pay them the full amount or only half? You would only want to pay him for the work that he did do, right?
 
Remember after he talked with Triple H and Vince (where they hugged), Vince called him back a few weeks- maybe even a month- later and asked if he was ready to come back. CM Punk said no. He was then suspended and later terminated.

Exactly what I said. Yet he LATER said no one in WWE tried to contact him and didnt care about him. The guy's story is full of contradictions.
 
I actually think that the WWE made a mistake in firing Punk. When they did, they gave him every reason to go ahead and put them on blast. They were the ones who then breached the contract and gave up every legal right they had.

Let's face it, CM Punk had all but left the WWE. He can put any spin on it that he wants but, at the end of the day, he had no intentions of going back to the WWE. I don't know why so many people think that he was fired, when he openly admits that he went into Vince's office and told him and Triple H that he wasn't going to be wrestling any more. They share a hug and Punk leaves the building. He is then asked if he wants to go back to work and he tells his boss “no”; albeit for really good medical reasons. Then, he is contacted by Triple H to talk about his status in WWE and tells him that he can't talk right now...

Honestly, if this were any of us, is it any wonder that he was fired? If you work in a call centre and you tell your manager that you can't and wont work for however long you deem to be necessary, do you actually think that they are going to continue paying for you? Nope.

Punk needed medical attention and I appreciate that. But he was also a world class cunt about leaving. He should have made it clear that he was coming back to the WWE when he had gotten his treatment. But he didn't. And actually, he made it seem as though he would never be back. I don't blame the WWE for firing CM Punk but they should have sued him for breach of contract. You can't just walk out on your job and then take the high road, it's a dick move.

Actually, yes if I worked in a call center and had legitimate health reasons that required time off to heal properly, my employers would be legally REQUIRED to give me the time off. Depending on where you live, this could mean up to 9 months paid time through workers comp, or as long as doctors require, possibly not paid, but the company would not be allowed to refuse me the time off needed, or permanently replace me without confirming that I would not be returning to work.

And you exposed a very biased take on what Punk was talking about, completely ignoring the timing of the so called talks with HHH and the notice of his firing. It's no accident that it happened on his wedding day, of that HHH and the office people ignored Punks calls for weeks or months before making a call at a time Punk didn't have the time to talk to them and requested to arrange a more appropriate time to talk. They also tried to refuse to pay him money that was owed, though it was kind of stupid of Punk not to cash any checks when he got them instead of waiting, I think he said a year?, before calling to have it reissued.

I just had a similar issue in some ways at my work. Finally got full time as person in direct line ahead of me was promoted to manager, broke my foot and was off for a month, call in to find out schedule for when I return, the person who was promoted was demoted as work decided they didn't need a manager for the tasks involved, which means I come back from broken foot and am back to part time. Union actually hurts here, as our union rules mean that when someone is promoted, they can be demoted or choose to self demote at any time within the first 6 months. But if they had asked me to come back before I could work and I told them no, of if I had extended time off request as doctor wanted me too, they could not fire me and hire a replacement. When I return(or returned if extended) they can not put someone else in my position and I maintain my senority.

Punk had every right to tell them no when they tried to order him back before he was healthy enough to do so. He could have done so at any time during any of his injuries but was lured back by false promises fed to him by Vince. Eventually he had enough and decided to take what he had the right to take.

As for the issue of the comp paying him, wwe contracts as we learned with issues with Rey, almost all have a clause in them that basically means that if someone is injured and needs time off the contract is on hold. They don't pay you while you are injured but also no time on contract passes. So injured with say, 2 months left on contract, but are out for 6 months, when you come back unless renegotiated you still have 2 months on contract.
In your call center scenario (which happened to me a few years ago- I had to take a few months stress leave, they couldn't just fire me and had to hold my job until I returned) the comp might not pay directly, but where I live we have Employment insurance that pays at least a partial amount of salary while you are hurt depending on what you were making and what bills you have to pay.
 
Agreed, everything in Punk's interview I am sure he believed, he is also a deluded egomaniac who believes in a fantasy world where he is right, blameless and virtuous ALL THE TIME.

This sounds more like HHH or Vince McMahon then Punk. Take credit for all the good that happens, but blame everyone else (mainly the wrestlers) when something goes wrong instead of themselves or the idiots they hired to write the storylines that the fans hate.
 
Good for WWE. I cant believe Punk. He was champion for over a year and yet he still complains. So what if he had to wrestle hhh whats so bad about that after being champ for over a year
 
He quit and he was fired. Regardless of the he said she said stuff he walked off the job and could have been fired there but Vince I guess was going to give Punk some time too cool off and when he said no to returning Vince had to can him. Pretty simple.
 
What an Ego he has. Champ for over a year and complains cause they wanted him to wrestle HHH at WM, even if he was supposed to lose so what. I also dont beleive the doctor thing. WWE takes injuries seriously. look at reigns he just came back and they are waiting for Bryan to be 100 pecent.
 

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