Who will never grace the HOF?

[finneycom1]

Here's a question that I have thought about since this year's HOF ceremony: Who do you think will never be in WWE's Hall of Fame?

I have read the thread on who you guys think should be taken out of the Hall of Fame. I agree with almost everyone that Pete Rose and "The Fridge" should not be there. However, I wonder who may never be in the HOF that should definitely BE in the HOF. Here's a list of guys who may never get into the HOF, but definitely deserve to be:

The Ultimate Warrior- Now, I know he definitely deserves to be there, even though he was a crappy wrestler. (but I loved him as a kid) This guy is a former IC Champion, World Champ, headlined WM, Summerslams (among other PPVs), and the first guy chosen by Vinnie-Mac to win cleanly over Hulk Hogan. But, with the release of the Warrior DVD, along with the controversial blogs, speeches, and politics that the guy has shown over the years, we may never see him in the HOF.

Randy Savage- Without a doubt, this guy is what made me start watching wrestling back in '87. I'm not going to go into all of his accomplishments b/c if you know anything about wrestling history over the past 20 years, then you know "Macho Man Randy Savage." I just dont know if he and McMahon can bury the hatchet. He was left off of the Legends of Wrestlemania game for Pete's sake!!! He definitely deserves his place in the HOF, though!

Paul Heyman/Eric Bischoff- You know these guys. You know they deserve it. But, if my memory serves me right, neither of these guys left WWE on great terms. (I could be wrong, though)

Honorable mentions: Psycho Sid, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash

Sorry, if this has been discussed on here already. I am relatively new to posting on here.

So, do you think these guys will ever be inducted to the WWE HOF? Also, if you have any more people that come to mind, post it. I would love to see what or who you guys think may not ever make it to the HOF.

 

[Dr. Stinger A. Zoidberg]

Chris Benoit- I think we all know why

Lesnar/Lashley- Both of them had big thing goin 4 them but decided to be asses and leave

 

[finneycom1]

"Lesnar/Lashley- Both of them had big thing goin 4 them but decided to be asses and leave"

Gotta agree with you on Lesnar. I cant stand Brock Lesnar! Vince pushed him like the second coming of Hogan, and he quit to go play football. (which he failed. But, he is a legitimate bad ass in the octagon. Still dont like him though.)

 

[Jordan adams]

i dunno gillberg lol, out of big stars chris beniot is the only one i can think for sure because of his actions but the other people like savage , warrior, owen, paul heyman, and Eric Bischoff i would like to think they will get in manly because of the fact vince no matter is personal feelings never burns bridges complete the close he came doing that would be bret heart and he is in the hall of fame

 

[shafe_41]

Lesnar/Lashley- Both of them had big thing goin 4 them but decided to be asses and leave

Lashley did not decide to be an ass and leave. Michael Hayes had a problem with Lashley because he was black and Lashley was being treated unfairly. Get your facts straight.

 

[Joey B.]

With all due respect, as long as Bruno Sammartino and Bob Backlund are not inducted, the WWE Hall of Fame lacks all credibility, in my opinion. I don't know why Backlund isn't in yet...I don't know if he's got any bad blood with McMahon...but I know Bruno isn't inducted because he's not on good terms with McMahon, which is garbage. Good terms or no, the man was a two-time champ and had the longest continuous reign of any WWWF/WWF/WWE champ. And Backlund, if I'm not mistaken, has the second-longest continuous reign. They should both be in...but I'm guessing that, at the very least, Bruno will never get in.

 

[Jordan adams]

With all due respect, as long as Bruno Sammartino and Bob Backlund are not inducted, the WWE Hall of Fame lacks all credibility, in my opinion. I don't know why Backlund isn't in yet...I don't know if he's got any bad blood with McMahon...but I know Bruno isn't inducted because he's not on good terms with McMahon, which is garbage. Good terms or no, the man was a two-time champ and had the longest continuous reign of any WWWF/WWF/WWE champ. And Backlund, if I'm not mistaken, has the second-longest continuous reign. They should both be in...but I'm guessing that, at the very least, Bruno will never get in.

you i never even thought of Bob backlund good call. I think will be i never heard of him on bad terms with vince but im sure he will be. Bruno i thought was an hall famer but if he's not he should be.

 

[finneycom1]

With all due respect, as long as Bruno Sammartino and Bob Backlund are not inducted, the WWE Hall of Fame lacks all credibility, in my opinion. I don't know why Backlund isn't in yet...I don't know if he's got any bad blood with McMahon...but I know Bruno isn't inducted because he's not on good terms with McMahon, which is garbage. Good terms or no, the man was a two-time champ and had the longest continuous reign of any WWWF/WWF/WWE champ. And Backlund, if I'm not mistaken, has the second-longest continuous reign. They should both be in...but I'm guessing that, at the very least, Bruno will never get in.

Joey B.- Gotta agree with you on Sammartino and Backlund. When I posted this, I tried to keep it somewhat current. (at least late 80's and later) Good call, nonetheless!! They both deserve it!

 

[Hulkster84]

To tell you the truth...i think everyone who deserves to be in the hall of fame will end up getting inducted!

Unless of course the wrestler refuses the offer.

Savage, Warrior, Sid, Nash, Hall, Bruno, Backlund, Lesnar, Heyman, Bischoff etc!

From a business perspective...think about it logically.

Hulk Hogan was inducted in 2005 - By far the biggest name in wrestling history.

In 06 it was Bret Hart, 07- Dusty, 08- Flair, 09- Austin!

Since Hogans induction, WWE have set a standard, that every year one 'BIG name' will get inducted!

Eventually they will run out of big names that are on 'good terms' with the company and they will make offers to those big names who aren't on best terms with the company. Its just good business.

And lets face it...the only superstars on the current roster who may get inducted in the next 5 years are HBK and the Undertaker.. as they may be retiring soon.

HHH, Cena have long stays ahead of them!

WWE will need a big name every year and if they dont make amends with those who are not on good terms with the company then the hall of fame will suffer, and wrestlers who lack 'star power' will be headlining hall of fame ceremonies, making fans lose interest!

In 07 Dusty got inducted, and lets face it - noone cared.

Guys like Jake Roberts, Honky Tonk Man, Ted Dibiase etc are very good Preliminar inductees - Like Steamboat, Mr Perfect and Roddy Piper!

But as far as big names are concerned, the Savages and Warriors will get inducted.

Make no mistake about it, Nash, Hall, Foley, Angle, Booker will get inducted, but only when they either retire, or leave TNA for good.

Foley, Angle and Nash are the only names big enough in that company to headline a hall of fame ceremony.

Sting - he will also get inducted, but again, when he leaves tna or retires. He can headline a hall of fame ceremony no doubt. But those guys will get inducted somewhere between 5-10 years from now...maybe more!

All of the names i have mentioned deserve to get inducted, and from a business standpoint, WWE will have to make them an offer eventually!

Whether the wrestlers accept or not is a different story.

Savage and Bruno are the only ones i could see knocking back an offer to get into the hall of fame!

Warrior will take it...he has an ego and is too proud!

The crucial thing here is not inducting someone too early!

Austin was inducted too early i think! Too many guys deserved to go in before Austin...purely because their run was years, in some cases a DECADE before austins!
Guys like Savage, Warrior, Jake Roberts, Honkytonk Man, Ted Dibiase, Backlund, Bruno...but when you think about it...WWE needed a big name to headline the event...Savage, Warrior are the only REAL big names that could headline a HOF event...and they arent on the best of terms with WWE...so Austin got the vote, not to mention the event was held in texas...so from a business standpoint it made sense to induct austin.
In my opinion it was way too early!

But you see...because big names are not on good terms, austins induction was accelerated to occurring way before it should have occurred!

Lesnar will get inducted, so will Heyman and Bischoff!
Lesnar could headline a HOF ceremony, but wont for another 10 years...he will refuse any induction from a 'phony' wrestling organisation while he is world champion in the real world of wrestling.

Heyman and Bischoff are preliminary guys!

Only so many wrestlers have the 'star power' to headline a HOF ceremony, and wwe has set the precedent that one will be inducted every year!

So EVERYONE who deserves to be inducted will be made an offer...otherwise youll have guys with limited star power headlining the event and everyone will lose interest.

Dont forget about Yokozuna and Earthquake!
Vader!
King Kong Bundy, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Legion of doom, Demolition, Powers of pain, Kamala, Brutus Beefcake, Bam Bam Bigelow, and all of the characters from the Legends of Wrestlemania game!

Goldberg too!

X Pac

Sable, Chyna, Torrie, Trish, Sunny!

And the list goes on!

Vince McMahon himself will also get inducted when the time is right!

and of course...the Rock!

But in my view its all about timing!

Too early...there is not enough build up, anticipation or nostalgia and that X factor that was there in Hogans induction and Brets induction will just be missing!

 

[Ben-Phillips]

Alright, this is subject to change, and definitely just going to change.. Or at least, I hope so...

Chris Jericho as of late, it just wouldn't make sense for him to be a Hall of Famer down the line.. But I do suspect an eventual face turn and return to Y2J... I'm just saying, if he weren't to return to his face.. He might just be the most deserving man to never get there, unless they downplay his gimmick in 10-15 years..

Like I said, I expect this to change soon, and probably is a waste of a spot on this thread.. But if they didn't, how can you possibly say someone as all-around.. Well, spectacular, as Chris Jericho wouldn't make it? 5-Time World Champion, 8-Time Intercontinental Champion, 3-Time Tag Team Champion, former Hardcore and European Champion.. Arguably the King of the Ladder Match.. Then again, there are a few clear cut bests in that respect..

I always saw Jericho as the Shawn Michaels of new.. Performer wise, not so much gimmick wise.. Regardless.. I sort of expect to get bashed for that, but how would someone who is hellbent on ridding the WWE of it's Hall of Famers (Not to mention; some of the most deserving inducties) be put into that class?

 

[ChrisKessaris]

I would have to say as far as guys who DESERVE it but will NEVER get it...aside from that one obvious one...:

Jeff Jarrett: WWE will never recognize him as being anything other than the mid-carder he was with Russo pushing for him. They'll never recognize TNA

Sting: They'll never induct him because he never had anything to do with them.

Lex Luger: Despite a very successful carreer with 2 world title reigns, he'll never be in the WWE HoF

Vader: WWE will never recognize him as more than what he was when he came over after his Hogan feud in WCW.

Rick Rude: Despite being a great worker and a World Champion, his ending goes against what WWE would like to remember their stars as...unfortunately...since it's their fault.

RVD: One of the most exciting wrestlers of the past 2 decades...however I doubt WWE will ever induct him into their Hall of Fame

Sabu/The Sandman/Raven/Shane Douglas/Tazz: All 5 of these guys made ECW a household name. All of their contributions I say fall on even ground because they were all great at what they were great at. Whether it was hardcore or being an against the grain franchise player or just the biggest (smallest) badass in the company, they were all leaders of the revolution for many years and deserve HoF recognition...that they will unfortunately never get.

Macho/Elizabeth: Thought I seriously doubt they can have a Hall of Fame and exclude this pair, they just might try to get away with it. However...I will say this. There is NOBODY left who deserves Hall of Fame recognition more than the Macho Man and Elizabeth. How many DECADES did they entertain us? Yeah sure, Savage was batshit benoit crazy at the end of his career...and sure Vince hates him...but you gotta admit that since he didn't kill anyone and is still worshiped by marks around the world to this day...maybe Vince has a spot on reserve just for him...you never know.

Chyna: She revolutionized what a woman could accomplish in wrestling. Aside from Trish Status she was probably the best female worker the company ever had. However she got too full of herself when she was on top and fell off the map and into the twisted world of reality tv and porn. God...her snatch is nightmarish...but anyways, she still deserves to be in the HoF in my mind...but will probably never get there.

Demolition: Always considered copycats of the Road Warriors...however, they are still talked about to this day and one of the most dominant WWE teams of the late 80's.

Earthquake: John Tenta was a great worker for a guy his size. He was a total professional in and out of the ring and was always selfless when it came to his characters (he changed a tattoo he had for WCW's stupid shark gimmick for Christ's sake). I just don't think Vince remembers him. Unfortunately since he was one of the best of his era.

 

[Rabbid Wolverine]

owen hart- they dont ever seem to mention this guy on tv, i have a feeling it has to do with settlement with owens wife, but he should have def already be in there and in the game

vader- i'm not to sure vader would make it in, he was only a real force in wcw, his wwf stint was ok, maybe he was to old/big at that time, but he could still hit a moonsault...DAMN

sting- as long as sting never wrestles for wwe, i think he may be held out for a long time, if he were to do a one time thing, like a wrestlemania, i'm sure he would get inducted instantly

sid justice/vicious- i think he deserves to be there, his attitude probably wasnt the best, but he lasted very long in wrestling for a big guy until that nasty leg breaking accident

 

[Larceny]

i will list some names of the people who i think will never grace the HOF

RVD

big show

Chris Benoit

Cristian

the great kahli

matt hardy

and maybe milion dollar man ted diebiase

Matt Hardy WILL, because the Hardys will be inducted together someday.
He has enough achievements to be inducted by himself anyway.

 

[rowdy ruben]

jimmy wang wang, shannon morre, justin credible, the goon, kizarny, duke the dumpster drosse, mideon, gangrel, blue meanie, nd all jobbers that never held a tittle or had a match at wm. sad part is these guys deserve it more then pete rose nd william perry

 

[The Dewbliners]

Here's my list of people who will probably not be inducted (and believe me some will are painful for me to list)

1. First and Foremost- Brian Fuckin' Pillman- Ok, I might be prejudice, as I'm from the same area of Ohio, and I've been a Pillman mark since 89. But he should be inducted base on his godliness alone, not to mention his work as a Horsemen, the Loose Cannon, and the first ever "cruiserweight" champ.

2.Owen Hart- Probably won't get in until the widow passes on and his kids say ok.

3.Ted Sr.- Even with all his NWA credentials, his WWE career was as an upper mid-carder, a tag team with Mike Rotunda, or a manager. Overall, most modern fans know him as a glorified jobber, which is a shame.

that's only three, but it's Zombie Jesus day, and I'm more than a little intoxicated, so I'll leave it at that. Mostly, the point is INDUCT BRIAN FUCKIN' PILLMAN!!!!

 

[schaeffershawn]

pk the million dollar man will get in so will Rude some day expecially looking at how the von erichs got in. Hall/Nash/pac will all get in some day as will sting and Backland.

The onbly people likely never to get in our
Luger, any ECW guy not named dreamer or RVD, Foley at this point, Savage, and Bruno will not get in till he is in the box.

 

[speedy316]

I dunno if this has been said because i havent read every post in the whole thread but Vince should not control who goes into HOF, its another way of fowarding his own ego, "you can be in the HOF only if me and you are cool!" I think HOF inductions should be decided by a comittee or a board that looks at the achievements of each individual wrestler under scrutiny, rather than Vince "i built wrestling with my own spit and brawn" Mchmahon

 

[speedy316]

Oh yeah my votes will go to Kevin Nash, Mick Foley and Booker T, all fantastic (in my opinion) but now they have affiliation with TNA, Vince would only bring these guys into to job to Kung-Funaki or Jimmy Wang Yang

 

[BIGJUICYNIPPLES]

big show will get inducted LOL he is one of the greatest big man ever

 

[Sean Valjean]

It's early, I'm tired, and I'm at work. Thus, I won't explain why these people won't get in because I'm too lazy. I'm sure you can figure it out yourselves.


Scott Hall
Chris Benoit
Randy Savage
Bruno Sammartino
Ultimate Warrior
Owen Hart

Those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head without stating the obvious ones like Kizarny, Braden Walker, or Mike Adamle.

 

[BIGJUICYNIPPLES]

on a side note i also belive andre the giant should get a proper HOF induction insted of a lame video clip played and no one speaking on his behalf, ive actully been asked by ppl why hasnt he been inducted, ppl dont even know he was sadly.

 

[LokiCobain]

Why is Lashley even mentioned in this? At least Lesnar was the center of the company and wrestled some of the biggest names in the business, while Lashley defended Donald Trump's hair.

Hall and Nash will be inducted, just not until Nash is done with TNA. Remember the Kliq? Now tie that in with HHH being son in law to the man who makes the decisions. I wouldn't be surprised if HHH has already talked to Vince about having a Hall of Fame where he, Michaels, Nash, Scott Hall, and even X-Pac are all inducted. The two of them will most definitely happen due to their connections.

Ultimate Warrior will if he wants. When people mentioned Bret Hart, the only reason he got inducted wasn't because Vince wanted to, but because Bret accepted. At the end of the day, anyone that gets thought of has to agree to show up, or else it looks bad. This may be the case with the Ultimate Warrior. Just like Bret Hart, if the Ultimate Warrior is left out, it's not legitimate, and Vince has to move in that direction. Randy Savage is on the same boat in regards to wanting to be inducted. "Bad Blood" works both ways, and if Savage or the Warrior don't want to make an appearance, then for Vince it's not worth inducted them. So they'll wait for the dust to settle and then once everyone comes down, they headline. Same deal, and probably most especially for, Bruno Sammartino. The guy still openly insults Vince McMahon for ruining the sport.

Heyman and Bichoff will definitely both get in, but not before all the other "territorial" promoters. They just inducted the Von Erichs family, it'll be awhile before the ECW or the modern-WCW, (perhaps one day Jeff Jarrett for TNA) gets inducted, but again, to keep it legitimate, you can't just include your little circle of friends. Heyman and Bischoff contributed greatly to WWE as being a big time competitor forcing WWE to change their product, and an innovator who gave WWE ideas on what people would buy into (Attitude and violence).

I do agree with the Hulkster though, that it's just a matter of time before every single wrestler one can remember will pretty much get in, or at least every major champion in WWE. Which leads me to this...


Here's food for thought:
Sting.

The WWE Hall of Fame has already proven that it'll induct guys that have never actually wrestled in WWE. However, these guys are mostly promoters or "founders" or innovators. There's no real bad blood between WWE and Sting, he just didn't want to be used the wrong way so never joined. There's no doubt to the star power and contribution Sting has made to the wrestling business. In any legitimate Hall of Fame, Sting would be a first ballot Headliner. Eventually, Vince McMahon is going to have to make his Hall of Fame a legitimate one (not just something to hype up Wrestlemania), and guys that dominated in other companies will have to be recognized. The problem is it all comes down to Vince, and even if he'll have to do that, if he won't want to, it won't happen.

Will we have to wait decades to see Sting inducted, or will it just simply never happen?

 

[Savage1]

So the obvious choices are Savage, Warrior, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Jake Roberts, and Chris Benoit.

I hate that Vince McMahon will be so stubborn and stupid to carrie a grudge for so many years and not just say fuck it its been way too long and the fans and the wrestlers deserve it. Regardless of what may have happened between him and Savage, the Macho Man was one of the top 5 or 10 best wrestlers ever in my estimation. He should be inducted and he should have been in the video game. I didnt buy the game strictly based on the fact that he was left out. He was one of the biggest reasons i watched wrestling in the early 80's, more so than Hogan. If he doesnt get inducted it would be a complete and utter fuckfest by Vince once again because he let his big ego and pride ruin something for the fans.
We all know the history between Vince and Hall and Nash, not to mention all of Hall's issues. These two helped shape the attitude era as much as Rock and Austin and DX did. If not for them and the nWo there would have been no need for Austin to flip people off and curse all the time or drink beer in the ring. If not for them the volume wouldnt have had to be turned up as high as it was with the Rock's character. They played a significant role in the Monday Night Wars which was one of the best times for wrestling fans. They deserve to be inducted but I doubt that Vince will allow it. Thats a shame!
There is a list of guys that will prob never make it in who absoutely deserve to and I, as a wrestling fan, will be very very disappointed if I never get to see all these guys headline a HOF ceremony and give a great speech. I would love to see Hall and Nash together talking about it being too sweet to be inducted, or Savage yelling Oooooohhhh Yyyeeaahhh one more time but it's highly unlikely and very unfortunate that it will prob never happen.

 

[Leeds Guy]

Matt Hardy

World Wrestling Federation / World Wrestling Entertainment
o ECW Championship (1 time)
o WCW Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Jeff Hardy
o WWF European Championship (1 time)
o WWF Hardcore Championship (1 time)
o WWF/E World Tag Team Championship (6 times) – with Jeff Hardy
o WWE Cruiserweight Championship (1 time)
o WWE Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Montel Vontavious Porter
o WWE United States Championship (1 time)

Yeah i think hes in

 

[SavageTaker]

Everyone that deserves to be in the hall of fame will at one point be inducted in it. if hogan was able to get into it then most people will be abe to get in it. For god's sakes hogan testified against McMahon in the steroid trial and went to the competition. when he was in WCW he nearly drove vince out of business. He did two things that people would have thought would never be forgiven by vince. but look at what happened, vince forgave and forgot and he brought him back because he is the biggest superstar the wwe has. meaning that vince will put personal problems and bury the hatchet with just about anyone as long as it is good for business and it will make him money.

Bruno Sammartino will be in it. Vince doesnt have a problem with him whatsoever, the one with the problem is bruno, and as long as he is alive and doesnt stop being stubborn then he wont be in the hall of fame. but when he dies he will be inducted, unfortunetly most people wont know who he is and wont care.

Bob Backlund will be in the hall of fame too. the reason bob isnt in it is because he feels like he can still go in the ring and has one more run left in him. he has been offered a spot but has refused because of the reasons mentioned above.

Sting will be in it. just because he was never in the wwe doesnt mean that he wont get inducted. gordon solie is in it yet he was never in the wwe. so why should sting not be in it. the only thing keeping sting from the hall of fame is TNA, as long as he is involved with them, Vince will not even think twice about inducting him. so he is definitely going to be in it if he accepts a spot.

for the people who say RVD will never be in it, well it's too early to decide that as he is still pretty young and he has rested alot and has healed and restored his body so he can comeback for one more run.

Randy Savage will one day be in it too. No matter what, vince will want him in his Hall of Fame because he knows it is good for business and will make him money. it is what is good for business. I think if Randy picked up the phone and gave vince a call and buried the hatchet than vince will accept.

To finish off, again if hulk hogan was able to get in it after all he did then most people will be inducted as long as it is good for business and it will make vince money.