Who do you think is most likely winning Superbowl XLVI?
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That would have to be a first, a team with a 6-10 record, winning their division and advancing to the playoffs, and making it all the way to the Superbowl. There's only one problem with this unlikely scenario. In a word: Patriots
I've been pretty high on the Chiefs the past year or so, but man... their offense has looked atrocious in the preseason so far.
Anyways... the AFC is between the Pats and Chargers. Peyton's hurt, so you can't count on the Colts to do anything just yet, and the Steelers had a great year last year, which means they'll play mediocre this year, lol. The Ravens will have a bad season... mark my words on that one. The Browns will surprise a lot of people, as will Denver. But, it still comes down to New England and San Diego in the AFC.
As far as the NFC... there are only 3 teams worth a damn:
Packers
Saints
Eagles
Fuck the Falcons and Cowgirls... both will be mediocre throughout the entire season (especially Atlanta; last year the Falcons had the biggest fluke of a season I've ever seen any team have in any type of professional sport). The Vikings may be the sleeper depending on how much McNabb has left in the tank. My guess is nothing, but you never know with him. And Chicago will be Chicago... look unstoppable one week, and completely dreadful the next. Same goes for the Giants.
Cowboys aren't doing shit this year, they are dropping of the earth faster then Umaga. Especially because their in the same conference as The Eagles.
And even with a healthy Manning, the Colts are dropping pretty fast too. They are slowly fading out of the top teams, and I sure am glad I traded Manning away.
Can you believe I got this trade to work. I traded Manning, Benson, and Brandon Jacobs...for Michael Vick and MJD. Not only is this league complete shit, you get 13 points a touchdown, 2 a completion, 2 points every rushing attempt, 5 a reception, 13 a reception TD.
And you have a full defensive roster, and the scoring doesn't get better. 9 a tacker, 5 an assist, 13 for sacks and picks, 9 a deflection, and 7 a forced fumble, and I have hands down the best defense in this league. I also have a solid offense, I think this league's scoring is terrible, but that won't stop me from winning.
And even with a healthy Manning, the Colts are dropping pretty fast too. They are slowly fading out of the top teams, and I sure am glad I traded Manning away.
Can you believe I got this trade to work. I traded Manning, Benson, and Brandon Jacobs...for Michael Vick and MJD. Not only is this league complete shit, you get 13 points a touchdown, 2 a completion, 2 points every rushing attempt, 5 a reception, 13 a reception TD.
And you have a full defensive roster, and the scoring doesn't get better. 9 a tacker, 5 an assist, 13 for sacks and picks, 9 a deflection, and 7 a forced fumble, and I have hands down the best defense in this league. I also have a solid offense, I think this league's scoring is terrible, but that won't stop me from winning.
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That would have to be a first, a team with a 6-10 record, winning their division and advancing to the playoffs, and making it all the way to the Superbowl. There's only one problem with this unlikely scenario. In a word: Patriots
I don't understand what you're saying here. Getting to the Super Bowl two seasons after a horrible season is easily doable. On the other hand, you could be mistaken about what the Chiefs did last season (they won their division and went to the playoffs).
Mighty NorCal
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New England Patriots.
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You're right about the Chiefs offense not looking so hot, but I'm confident things will turn around once the normal season starts. That being said, I like the Chiefs mainly for their defense (Eric Berry's beast and I'd go so far as to argue that Tamba Hali will be the best OLB in the game after this upcoming season).
In regards to the Patriots and Chargers: the Pats defense is still suspect at best (Haynesworth ain't going to do shit, especially if he gets suspended for just today pleading guilty to simple assault) and the Chargers aren't going anywhere as long as AJ Smith and Norv Turner are around (I still think Rivers is the best QB in the game, though).
To clarify, the Kansas City Chiefs were awful two years ago and beyond. I realize exactly what they accomplished last season, and I was happy to see it, but frankly, they played well over their heads and I don't think they are capable of pulling a rabbit out of a hat again. The preseason would seem to support this (although admittedly you can't judge much from the preseason).
I predict they will be 6-10 this season, at most 7-9, and will be spectators again for the postseason. Patriots all he way.
Before Stormtrooper rips me a new one for not mentioning the Jets... I have no idea why, but they completely slipped my mind when writing up that post. Of course they're a MAJOR contender in the AFC. I definitely see them putting themselves in the position to win it all, though I think the loss of Brad Smith will end up being a devastating hit to their team.
So, yeah... I have to include the Jets along with the Pats and Chargers. While I give the Pats and Bolts a slight edge over the Jets, as the saying goes.... any given Sunday anything can happen. And the Jets are certainly the kind of team who can flip the switch and dominate the best teams in the NFL any given week.
So, yeah... I have to include the Jets along with the Pats and Chargers. While I give the Pats and Bolts a slight edge over the Jets, as the saying goes.... any given Sunday anything can happen. And the Jets are certainly the kind of team who can flip the switch and dominate the best teams in the NFL any given week.
Mighty NorCal
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Saints Vs Patriots is what im gonna go with right now. I think the Sproles aquisition is going to be huge for them, along with the addition of Cam Jordan and Mark Ingram
Cena's Little Helper
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Not to mention that they have two seriously fat-assed nose tackles as their DTs now. Well, I don't know if Aubrayo Franklin will come back in time from the MCL sprain, but Rogers is one hell of a big boy.
Mighty NorCal
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Franklin was a beast for us out in SF, he will be a great pick up for the Saints, along with Rodgers. Flying under everyones radar, they are. Good place to be.
Everyones knee jerk is to pick the Eagles, ignoring the fact they are full of red flags
1. Never, ever depend on Micheal Vick
2. the team who makes the biggest splash in Free Agency never wins the super bowl. Never.
3. Its the fucking Eagles. That alone shoud let you know to stay away.
Everyones knee jerk is to pick the Eagles, ignoring the fact they are full of red flags
1. Never, ever depend on Micheal Vick
2. the team who makes the biggest splash in Free Agency never wins the super bowl. Never.
3. Its the fucking Eagles. That alone shoud let you know to stay away.
Franklin got hurt against the Texans on Saturday. Those fuckers were going after his and Rogers legs and they finally got one to stay down. If I was Payton I'd file a complaint with the league... you're not supposed to be able to pull shit like that. It was a disgrace. Hopefully the Saints return the fucking favor when they play the Texans in week 3.
Mighty NorCal
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I wouldnt fret if its simply an MCL sprain. Be out for a month, tops.
Mighty NorCal
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The Lions. Yeeaahhh boooyyyy...
Hey, fuck that. If Fairley can come back and Stafford stays healthy, I think they knock the Bears off. I have zero faith in Chicago.
The Lions. Yeeaahhh boooyyyy...
Hey, if Stafford can stay healthy, they should definitely end up taking a Wild Card spot. And in the NFL playoffs, as I'm sure you already know, it's anyone's game.
The fact is, in sports today, MATCH-UPS wins games more than anything else, if you know what I mean.
Stormtrooper
Championship Contender
That's funny, because the D-Line got VASTLY better. Muhammad Wilkerson, Kenrick Ellis are WAY better then Shaun Ellis at his advanced age. Plus the coaching staff has loved DT Ropati Pitoitua, who tore his achilles in training camp last year. Plus the guys they already had last year (Sione Pouha and Mike DeVito, who both had good years) are back with more experience. They only lost one piece on the D-Line, and he was old as hell (note, Kris Jenkins was injured 6 plays into the season, I don't really count him).
They got Jim Leonhard back from his injury, and still have one of the best corner tandems in the NFL (ONE of, not the).
Yes they did lose 3 of their receivers. Cotchery was good, but demanded to be released. And as good as he was, no need keeping him around if he doesn't want to be there.
Brad Smith is not a very good wide receiver. He was the 4th receiver for the Jets. In fact, it was the one thing he did that he wasn't great at.
Braylon Edwards was very good. No question.
And you are pretty much wrong with all 3.
Plax brings a completely new dynamic to the Jets passing game. Height. Sanchez has never had a guy he could just throw the ball up to. Now he does. Was it at the expense of Braylon? Yes, but the new added dynamic was worth it.
Cotchery was very good for the Jets. However, Derek Mason is a better receiver, and has always been. Since their breakout years (Mason: 2000, Cotchery: 2006), Mason AVERAGED 200 more yards, 2 TDs, 13 receptions. Oh, and in that time, Mason has played 100 more games. AND Cotchery had offseason back surgery and isn't ready.
Finally, Jeremy Kerley has one thing on Brad Smith. He's actually (get this)... A WIDE RECEIVER! Brad Smith was a college QB who turned into a Wide Receiver. In his entire career (5 years), he has 64 receptions. In the past 2 seasons? Try a whopping ELEVEN. Yeah, that's some chemistry with the Sanchize.
You're not COMPLETELY wrong. In some instances, you are right. Is Braylon more talented then Plax? MAYBE (but Plax is better for the Jets). Do they lose some familiarity? Of course (but that's irrelevant with Plax, as he can catch anything in a 2394823465 foot radius, and Mason is just way more talented.
They did lose a bit on the O-Line. Robert Turner (the 6th lineman) is out til November. Wayne Hunter played very well when Damien Woody was injured last year, and now we get a full year of him.
I like LT, don't get me wrong. However, lets be fair. He's 32, and proved he couldn't last the entire season last year and that his best games are in warm/indoor games.
However, you're forgetting that LT is officially the 3rd down back. Shonn Greene is officially the #1, and Joe McKnight is the backup, and he looks like he's finally ready to play pro ball.
THIS times 109873426.
So,do I pick the Jets, of course. I'm a Jets fan, and they have not proven that they aren't worthy of the pick. I think they'll end up playing the Packers. Or the Eagles.
Stormtrooper
Championship Contender
I agree the lions are gonna be better then last year.
However, The bolded statement is a HUGE, HUUUUUUUUGE if, and it has a better chance of not happening then it does of happening.
Thing is Fairley may not have even been a starter had he been healthy. Corey Williams is underappreciated with Suh right next to him. Yes, he'd be a huge piece, but they need secondary to show up more then anything. They have some talent, obviously, but if there's a weakness on D, it's that.
And I have a feeling Stafford will be healthy all year. The guy's gotten stronger on his shoulders, and he's making quicker decisions. This last preseason game vs. Cleveland he scrambled out and just flipped the ball out of bounds twice, instead of taking a one or two yard loss, which I loved.
If this team can stay healthy (which early on isn't looking like the case at some of our skill positions) I think this is a 9 or ten win team. I do think they need another draft class/free agent period to be thought of as a complete threat to teams like Philly, GB, and Atlanta in the NFC. These guys will be able to compete against anyone, for sure, but they're lacking the depth that the teams at the top have the luxury of having. The only places where they have great depth is the Defensive line and QB position, and somewhat of our LB core (Bobby Carpenter could fill in a spot should one of the 3 starters go down). Our secondary will need some improvement in the offseason (most likely via the draft) and then I can boast and say this team should be a playoff team.
They'll be over .500, but I think they'll be the first or second team out of the WC picture.
And I just said the Lions because for some people, they're just gonna say the Lions are shit until they make the playoffs.
Mighty NorCal
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Never said anything about him being a starter. Surely a strong, difference making part of a rotation.
Yes, definitely. Hopefully some of Suh's angryness for QB's wears off on him.
And for the record, I'd probably say it's the Pats vs. Packers, although that was my prediction last year, so I'm not repetitive, Pats vs. Eagles. With the Pats winning. It'll take another playoff loss for me to not be picking the Pats, although I do like Rivers and co. in SD.
And for the record, I'd probably say it's the Pats vs. Packers, although that was my prediction last year, so I'm not repetitive, Pats vs. Eagles. With the Pats winning. It'll take another playoff loss for me to not be picking the Pats, although I do like Rivers and co. in SD.
And that's bullshit. Stafford isn't some Bob Sanders who can't last a game or two without getting hurt. He didn't miss a SINGLE game in college or HS. He missed a few games his rookie year b/c of knee injury (which hasn't been bad since). The second injury was a shot to the shoulder by Shaun Rogers and he STILL played two games after that and the Lions didn't wanna risk it any further since they were only 2-10 or something and shut him down. And last year it was a total blindside hit with very little time for Stafford to get ready for it. ANYONE would've had that injury with the way that play developed. Backus got blown right by and Stafford had no time to see what his blindside was doing. He came back, but during the game against the Jets some of his facial expressions even rolling around in the pocket made it appear that he wasn't completely healthy from the injury and rushed back. He got surgury, is recovered/stronger, is making quicker decisions in the pocket (from the preseason perspective) and will be able to absorb blows.
To say he'll get hurt b/c of two injuries that would've hurt any QB is ignorant. Obviously you can never predict injuries, but there doesn't appear to be any lingering effect on the ones he suffered, so I don't see why you'd say his chances of getting hurt are better then his chances of not.
Mighty NorCal
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Er, did you see any of his games in College? If anything he is worse already
The only game I payed attention to him was the National Championship. And yeah he was good, but it was only a one year thing. Suh was beastin it up and destroying McCoy in the Big 12 championship game and then kept it going in the NFL. It'll be interesting to see if he brings the same motivation he had last year (since people are saying he was a one year wonder, which is true). I think he will, but you just never know until he's out there.
And if he becomes as dangerous to the QB as Suh is I'll be tickled pink.
And if he becomes as dangerous to the QB as Suh is I'll be tickled pink.