Who do you think is going to the Superbowl?

[Sully]

Yell me who you think is going to the superbowl.


Jets.
Saints.
Vikings.
Colts.


I want it to be Jets Vs. Sants.

My luck it's going to be Vikings and Colts. Then vinkings are going to win, Idiot Farve is gonna be soo happy, then hes going to cry, retire, and come back.

 

[ImAStupidCuntWhoCantFollowRules]

Probably Minnesota and Indianapolis, though I'd like to see the Jets win.

 

[Leafy]

MINNESOTA!!

 

[rkofromhell]

First i will start by saying Colts vs Vikings..

If you would of asked me satursday i would have said i want the chargers to beat the Jets since admittedly i just dont like the Jets. But i also wanted the Jets to win becuase then i feel like the Colts could almost walk into the superbowl since IMO they are hands down better then the Jets. Flash forward to today and what i wanted to happen with the Jets winning happened and now i am not su sure the Colts will win. Although the Jets love to blitz and Peyton is better than any QB i have ever seen agaisnt the blitz appears to match up well you just never know.

On the NFC side i have gone back and forth a million times and have changed my answer to this post numerous times i just can see both of those teams in the superbowl. I will probably rout for the Saints, simply becuase i dont care that much for Favre that much but i honoestly have no idea who will the NFC. I will pick the Vikings just becusae the team i root for usuallys loses so there it is.

Colts Vs Vikings

 

[Jonnie Walker]

My pick goes to the Jets. And no, I'm not a prisoner.

 

[Sully]

First i will start by saying Colts vs Vikings..

If you would of asked me satursday i would have said i want the chargers to beat the Jets since admittedly i just dont like the Jets. But i also wanted the Jets to win becuase then i feel like the Colts could almost walk into the superbowl since IMO they are hands down better then the Jets. Flash forward to today and what i wanted to happen with the Jets winning happened and now i am not su sure the Colts will win. Although the Jets love to blitz and Peyton is better than any QB i have ever seen agaisnt the blitz appears to match up well you just never know.

On the NFC side i have gone back and forth a million times and have changed my answer to this post numerous times i just can see both of those teams in the superbowl. I will probably rout for the Saints, simply becuase i dont care that much for Favre that much but i honoestly have no idea who will the NFC. I will pick the Vikings just becusae the team i root for usuallys loses so there it is.

Colts Vs Vikings

Yeah, I wouldn't even watch it then. We all know the NFL is scripted to some extent, Brett Farve Winning the superbowl, crying, and retiring for good sounds most likely to happen. Colts don't deserve, they did before week 17. When they put in all their 3rd strings so they would lose, just so Pittsburgh doesn't make it to the playoffs, and they get their ass kicked again.

 

[Muffin Top Merkley]

Yeah, I wouldn't even watch it then. We all know the NFL is scripted to some extent, Brett Farve Winning the superbowl, crying, and retiring for good sounds most likely to happen. Colts don't deserve, they did before week 17. When they put in all their 3rd strings so they would lose, just so Pittsburgh doesn't make it to the playoffs, and they get their ass kicked again.

AHAHA.




Colts vs Vikings/Saints. ( I haven't made up my mind as to who will will between the Viks/Saints yet.)

 

[Sully]

AHAHA.




Colts vs Vikings/Saints. ( I haven't made up my mind as to who will will between the Viks/Saints yet.)

Is this a I agree you with Ahaha, or a year right Ahaha. Because the NFL may not be as scripted as shows live Big Brother or Survivor, But anything you see on TV is fixed to some extent. That's where those controversial plays come in.


I asked a question on Yahoo Answers about this. The best answer I chosse was pretty funny.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...XsVu_X7ty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20090911234959AAdajQg

 

[Muffin Top Merkley]

Is this a I agree you with Ahaha, or a year right Ahaha. Because the NFL may not be as scripted as shows live Big Brother or Survivor, But anything you see on TV is fixed to some extent. That's where those controversial plays come in.

Sorry, It's an "I'm laughing at you for saying that in public ahaha"

 

[Sully]

Sorry, It's an "I'm laughing at you for saying that in public ahaha"

Your right. The FBI is probably going to knock at my door, and bitch slap me a bit. Then tell me to never say that again.

 

[Sully]

So it turned out being Saints Vs. Colts.

I'd love to see New Orleans Win Superbowl 44. I'd hate to see Manning and his party of idiots win the superbowl. Maybe if Indy wasn't selfish, and didn't put their 3rd stringers in on the week 17 game, like said, thats only happened one other time, where the Colts could have gone undefeated the entire season. They just couldn't give that to their fans, they were just too scared Steel City was going to beat the crap out of them in the playoffs.

I'd love to see Manning throw the game losing interception to the house. Just like Dumba- I mean Brett Favre. This one is going to be a good Superbowl...if only it was pittsburgh..if only.

 

[Mr. TM]

I think this guy will be out soon enough.

 

[ImAStupidCuntWhoCantFollowRules]

I'd rather have the Jets and Vikings, but I don't really care either way. The last Super Bowl I watched was when the Broncos beat the Falcons. Hell, that's the last NFL game I watched, period. I prefer college sports.

 

[Fizzy]

How in the fuck can you script the NFL?

 

[ImAStupidCuntWhoCantFollowRules]

How in the fuck can you script the NFL?

I have no clue. I don't think it's scripted, I just don't like it.

 

[Jane]

Yeah, I wouldn't even watch it then. We all know the NFL is scripted to some extent, Brett Farve Winning the superbowl, crying, and retiring for good sounds most likely to happen. Colts don't deserve, they did before week 17. When they put in all their 3rd strings so they would lose, just so Pittsburgh doesn't make it to the playoffs, and they get their ass kicked again.

Well, now that they lost your plan has apparently fallen through.

How the fuck can you call a sport like football scripted? What, the players are told by the coach "alright, mess up this play." Are they payed extra money to keep their mouths shut? If you get drafted to the NFL are you forced to sign a confidentiality contract?

What else is scripted? Presidential elections, no doubt. I think wars are scripted too. Oh, and natural disasters of course.

Idiot.

 

[Mr. TM]

Jane! Come back to the sufface with me.

 

[Jane]

Jane! Come back to the sufface with me.

Sorry. I get caught up with the pathetic scum.

In the Jane World we will simply destroy any law breakers. By means of me and my pitchfork.

Death by Jane, if you will.

 

[Sully]

Well, now that they lost your plan has apparently fallen through.

How the fuck can you call a sport like football scripted? What, the players are told by the coach "alright, mess up this play." Are they payed extra money to keep their mouths shut? If you get drafted to the NFL are you forced to sign a confidentiality contract?

What else is scripted? Presidential elections, no doubt. I think wars are scripted too. Oh, and natural disasters of course.

Idiot.

There have been some very controversial calls that have affected alot of things, the one that stands out in my mind most was the infamous "tuck rule" game. and as we have learned later, the gaytriots did indeed cheat to beat the rams when they played in the superbowl, so it's not out of the realm of possibility to think that they might have payed the right people off to have an obscure rule used, that nobody had ever seen before (or since for that matter).

I suppose the fact that we still have "dynasties" this far into the free agency era does lend some creedence to the claim (I mean no such thing really exists in baseball anymore, in our current decade only one team has won multiple championships).

I can't really take the NBA seriously knowing how corrupted it is and how much cheating goes on. I think I would probably not watch NFL nearly as much just because part of the allure (for me) is that I feel it is one of the purest forms of entertainment (kind of the seminole permutation of reality TV), I mean, aside from several isolated incidents (The "tuck rule" game, Super Bowl XL, chargers v Broncos last year [when Ed Hochuli REALLY dropped the ball], etc) I think it's still just one of those sports where "any given sunday" (as the saying goes), so honestly, I think finding out the games were fixed or scripted or whatever would really make me lose interest...

 

[Jane]

gaytriots

Bant.

 

[Sully]

Bant.

I'm sorry. I was quoting an answer somebody gave me on another forum, and I quickly skimmed it, not seeing the offensive term.

Can a superior please remove it? As I cannot edit my own posts. Simply edit it to the correct term "Patriots". Once again, I apologize. It was in an answer on another forum, which I actulley gave a link to on the first page if you want refrence.

 

[Sully]

What else is scripted? Presidential elections, no doubt.

Remember our fantastic former president George W.? Remember 2004?

Let me refresh your memory a little bit.

During the 2004 United States presidential election, concerns were raised about various aspects of the voting process, including whether voting had been made accessible to all those entitled to vote, whether ineligible voters were registered, whether voters were registered multiple times, and whether the votes cast had been correctly counted. More controversial was the charge that these issues might have affected the reported outcome of the presidential election, in which the incumbent, Republican President George W. Bush, defeated the Democratic challenger, Senator John Kerry. Despite the existing controversies, Kerry conceded the election the following day on November 3.

There was generally less attention paid to the Senate and House elections and to various state races, but some of them were also questioned, especially the gubernatorial election in Washington, which was decided by less than 0.01% and involved several recounts and lawsuits. The final recount also reversed the outcome of this election.

In the months leading up to the 2004 election, both parties made efforts to register new voters. In some cases, Republicans challenged or prepared to challenge the validity of many new registrations, citing instances of fictitious names such as Mary Poppins appearing on the voter rolls. Democrats accuse the Republicans of using this as an excuse for vote suppression.

There were also complaints about the rejection of registrations by government agencies. College students encountered difficulties in registering where they attended school. Some officials rejected voter registration forms on grounds that were contested, such as a failure to use paper of a particular weight (Ohio) or a failure to check a box on the form (Florida).

Aside from such official actions, there were disputes about other voter registration activities. In Nevada and Oregon, a company hired by the Republican National Committee solicited voter registration forms, but was accused of filing only the Republicans’ forms and shredding those completed by Democrats, Nonprofit organizations, ACORN and the NAACP, were accused of submitting false voter registration forms and of carelessly or deliberately failing to submit some valid ones that they had received.

State efforts to purge voter rolls have led to disputes, notably in Florida. Before the 2000 election, Florida officials purged approximately 100,000 registered voters on the grounds that they were convicted felons (and therefore ineligible to vote under Florida law) or dead. Many of those whose names were purged were "false positives" (not actually felons). (See Florida Central Voter File.) A post-election lawsuit brought by the NAACP, the People for the American Way Foundation, and other organizations resulted in a settlement in 2002 in which the state agreed to restore eligible voters to the rolls and take other steps to improve election procedures.

The issue returned to prominence in 2004 when Florida announced another planned purge, again based on a list of felons. The state government initially attempted to keep the list secret. When a court ordered its release, it was found to contain mostly Democrats and a disproportionate number of racial minorities.Faced with media documentation that the list included thousands of errors, the state abandoned the attempt to use it. Some of the voters improperly purged in 2000 had not been restored as of May 2004.

Representative Dennis Kucinich commented on allegations of voter suppression in Ohio during the 2004 election:“ Dirty tricks occurred across the state, including phony letters from Boards of Elections telling people that their registration through some Democratic activist groups were invalid and that Kerry voters were to report on Wednesday because of massive voter turnout. Phone calls to voters giving them erroneous polling information were also common. ”


John Pappageorge, a Republican state legislator in Michigan said in the summer of 2004, "If we do not suppress the Detroit vote, we're going to have a tough time in this election." Pappageorge later claimed he was taken out of context saying, "In the context that we were talking about, I said we’ve got to get the vote up in Oakland (County) and the vote down in Detroit. You get it down with a good message."

Court injunctions were placed by the Franklin County Common Pleas Court against Moveon.org for verbally threatening and harassing individuals who identified themselves as Republican. On October 5, a Bush-Cheney campaign volunteer in Orlando had his arm broken when trying to stop union activists from storming the campaign office. The "storming" was part of a massive simultaneous campaign against 20 pro-Republican headquarters.

In every election, some voters encounter practical impediments to voting, such as long lines at the polling place. In 2004, however, the issue received increased attention. In many places, some voters had to wait several hours to vote. Ohio voters, in particular, were plagued by this issue. A study conducted by the Democratic National Committee in the summer of 2005 found that long lines forced three percent of the state's registered voters to abstain.

Among the factors thought to be at work were: the general increase in voter turnout; a particular increase in first-time voters whose processing required more time; and confusion about the providing of provisional ballots, which many states had never used before.

Distribution of voting machines proved to be a problem in some districts. In Ohio, some precincts had too few machines causing long waiting times, while others had plenty of machines per registered voters. Officials cited a late rush of registrations after voting machines had already been allocated as one source of long lines.

Before 2004, the increasing use of electronic voting machines had raised several issues:

Security- Without proper testing and certification, critics believe electronic voting machines could produce an incorrect report due to malfunction or deliberate manipulation.

Recounts- Voting machine recounts include auditing of hardware, software and the comparison of multiple vote records. Nevada was one of several states which insisted on electronic voting systems that create a paper trail.

Partisan ties- Democrats noted the Republican or conservative ties of several leading executives in the companies providing the machines.

The state of California ordered that 15,000 of its Diebold voting machines not be used in the 2004 elections due to flaws that the company failed to disclose.

In September 2005, the Government Accountability Office released a report noting electronic voting systems hold promise for improving the election process while citing concerns about security and reliability raised by numerous groups, and detailing specific problems that have occurred.

In the 2000 election, especially in the disputed recounts in Florida, there were issues concerning the ambiguities and uncertainties that arose from punch-card ballots, such as the hanging chads (incompletely punched holes). In 2004, the punch-card ballots were still widely used in some states. For example, most Ohio voters used punch-card ballots, and more than 90,000 ballots cast in Ohio were treated as not including a vote for President; this "undervote" could arise because the voter chose not to cast a vote or because of a hanging chad.

An analysis of Florida voter rolls in December 2004 alleged that over 64,000 registered voters had names that also appeared in a Social Security database of death claims, according to the Chicago Tribune. In response, the Brennan Center for Justice found reason to believe that the undisclosed methodology of the source article may have been inaccurate, and further noted that there was no allegation of anyone voting in someone else's name.

A New York Daily News article alleged 46,000 were people registered to vote in both New York city and Florida. A Cleveland Plain Dealer article found 27,000 people registered in both Ohio and in Florida, with 400 voting in both states consistently in the previous four years. The article attempted to match voter rolls to each other, which likely yielded significant errors.

Provisional ballots are for would-be voters who assert that they are registered but whose names cannot be found in the list available at the polling place. The voter completes a written ballot, which is placed in a sealed envelope. The ballot is opened and counted only if the voter is subsequently found to be registered.

In 2004, there was contention over the standards for determining whether to count provisional ballots. In Ohio, Secretary of State Ken Blackwell ruled that Ohio would not count provisional ballots, even those from properly registered voters, that were submitted at the wrong precinct. This ruling was ultimately upheld by the United States Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit.

Absentee ballots were also an issue. There were reports of absentee ballots being mailed out too late for some voters to complete and return them in time. In some instances, officials argued that last-minute litigation over Ralph Nader’s ballot status or other issues had prevented them from finalizing the absentee ballots as early as they wanted to.[citation needed] In Broward County, Florida, some 58,000 absentee ballots were delivered to the Postal Service to be mailed to voters, according to county election officials, but the Postal Service said it had never received them.


The 2004 election brought new attention to the issue of exit polls.Discrepancies existed between early exit poll information and the officially reported results. These discrepancies led some, including British Prime Minister Tony Blair, to prematurely conclude that Kerry won the election. Expert opinion was divided concerning what inferences should be drawn from the cited discrepancies.

Mitofsky International, the company responsible for exit polling for the National Election Pool and its member news organizations, released a report detailing the 2004 election's exit polling. At issue were the early release of some poll information, issues regarding correcting exit poll data using actual voter totals, and differences between exit polls and official results.

The NEP report stated that "the size of the average exit poll error ... was higher in 2004 than in previous years for which we have data." It concluded that these discrepancies between the exit polls and the official results were "most likely due to Kerry voters participating in the exit polls at a higher rate than Bush voters". Polling expert John Zogby later called this explanation "preposterous".

A study performed by the Caltech / MIT Voting Technology Project concluded that "there is no evidence, based on exit polls, that electronic voting machines were used to steal the 2004 election for President Bush." This study was criticized for using data that had been corrected to match the official count, and thus "essentially analyzing rounding error". On December 5, 2004 Charles Stewart III of MIT released a revised report which, he said, used pre-corrected data. Two days later, however, Warren Mitofsky, who had overseen the exit polling, stated that the pre-corrected data were proprietary and would not be released.

One paper concluded that discrepancies in the exit polls were evidence that the election results were off, though others alleged this paper was unscientific.


Some of the issues described above have created problems for voters generally. Others, however, by accident or (it is charged) by design, have disproportionately affected racial minorities. For example, the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights determined that, in Florida in 2000, 54 percent of the ballots discarded as "spoiled" were cast by African Americans, who were only 11 percent of the voters.

Ralph Nader requested a recount of 11 wards in New Hampshire where vote totals for Bush were 5–15% higher than predicted by exit polls. The Nader campaign reports: “In the eleven wards recounted, only very minor discrepancies were found between the optical scan machine counts of the ballots and the recount. The discrepancies are similar to those found when hand-counted ballots are recounted.”


In Ohio, two minor-party candidates, Michael Badnarik (Libertarian) and David Cobb (Green, though not on the ballot in Ohio) cooperated in requesting a recount.

According to Ohio recount rules, 3% of a county's votes are tallied by hand, and typically one or more whole precincts are selected and combined to get the 3% sample. The 3% must be randomly selected, and all hand counts are to be performed in public (with observers). After the hand count, the sample is fed into the tabulator. If there is no discrepancy, the remaining ballots can be counted by the machine. Otherwise, a hand recount must be done for the whole county.

The Cobb campaign claimed that the precincts were not randomly selected and the ballots were pre-sorted. They suggested that this indicates that precincts were selected that would match the machine count, in order to prevent a county-wide hand count, i.e. that it was "staged". Two poll workers were convicted of preselecting ballots for the recounts.

Around the country there were also recounts of races for state and local office. Most of them reflected simply the closeness of the official tally, but some also raised issues of election irregularities. These included the elections for:
Governor of Washington, between Dino Rossi and Christine Gregoire. Issues raised included the mailing of absentee ballots, the counting of provisional and absentee ballots, correction of improper marks on optically scanned ballots, and alleged tampering with electronic voting machines. The first tally and the first recount gave the election to Republican Dino Rossi. However, after two statewide recounts, Gregoire, the Democrat, had a narrow lead of 129 votes out of 2.8 million cast. A Republican lawsuit seeking to overturn the result and force a re-vote was rejected by the court, after which Rossi conceded the election. See Washington gubernatorial election, 2004.
North Carolina Commissioner of Agriculture, between Britt Cobb and Steve Troxler. The number of votes lost due to a voting machine malfunction in Carteret County (over 4,000) exceed the reported margin of about 2,000. A new election was called for by state election supervisors, but was mooted when Cobb conceded.

Governor of Puerto Rico, between Anibal Acevedo Vilá and Pedro Rosselló. Aníbal Acevedo-Vilá was declared the winner after several months of disputes The two candidates were separated by just under 4,000 votes.


On 6 January 2005, Senator Barbara Boxer joined Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio in filing a Congressional objection to the certification of Ohio's Electoral College votes. The Senate voted the objection down 1-74; the House voted the objection down 31-267.It was only the second Congressional objection to an entire State's electoral delegation in U.S. history; the first instance was in 1877, when all the electors from three southern states were challenged, and one from Oregon. (An objection to a single "faithless elector" was filed in 1969.)

Which just simply goes to show, anything..ANYTHING can be fixed. We are living in 2010. Open your eyes Jane. Anything.

This is very controversial, many controversial things have happend. Any sport, any "Reallity" Tv show, Shows like Judge Judy, Dr. Phil, Jerry Springer, Cops? Yeah, they say there all real, but we don't know that.

How about how the NFL changed around the game schedules for Week 17, making the Pittsburgh Steeler game first, just incase we do (and did) win, teams like the good ol, Patriots can fake a rib injury and lose.

 

[ImAStupidCuntWhoCantFollowRules]

Copy and paste FTW!

 

[Jane]

I'm sorry. I was quoting an answer somebody gave me on another forum, and I quickly skimmed it, not seeing the offensive term.

Can a superior please remove it? As I cannot edit my own posts. Simply edit it to the correct term "Patriots". Once again, I apologize. It was in an answer on another forum, which I actulley gave a link to on the first page if you want refrence.

It's alright, I don't really care.

 

[Jane]

Remember our fantastic former president George W.?

I'm Canadian. Therefore I didn't read the rest.