Heartbreak_Kid_707
Championship Contender
I'm gonna give a list of 15 wrestlers/divas/managers/refs/announcers, etc. that should or should not gt a HoF nod sometime in the next 10 years. I'm gonna judge by highest t least votes. Let's vote!!
Who deserves a Hall of Fame vote the most to least?
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Aquaman6686
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Out of these choices, for me it's a dead even tie between The Rock and Triple H, so I flipped a coin and voted for Triple H. Both of them are Hall of Fame headliners and both will be in sooner rather than later (keep in mind that I don't want either of them in there now, I'm talking 5 - 6 years from now). Personally I'm against Daniel Bryan going in right now, I've always felt that inducting someone RIGHT after they retire or pass away is more disrespectful than respectful, it's like they're saying, "OK, let's do this now before people stop caring". I felt the same way with Eddie Guerrero, Edge, HBK, Paul Bearer, etc. I feel it's better to wait 3 or 4 years. But there's a lot of good choices there.
Based on the list.
Undertaker
The Rock
Vince McMahon
Triple H
Paul Heyman
Hart Foundation
DX
The Dudley Boyz
Daniel Bryan
Brock Lesnar
Kane
Big Show
Rick Rude
Michael Buffer
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Brutus The Barber Beefcake
It's really a toss-up between The Rock/Undertaker (I went with Undertaker though), same with Vince and Triple H, though since their authorities figures (though HHH by career alone deserves it just as much as Rock/Undertaker), I figure there is no rush. Heyman has claim to be in regardless, because of his contributions to the business.
I'm probably a little baised towards the Hart Foundation, but both them and DX certainly deserve it. The Dudley's follow simply because their one of the most dominate tag-teams in the business.
Daniel Bryan is low because I think it's a little too soon to let him in, while I agreed with Edge going in, it was far too soon to place him in. Brock Lesnar still has time ahead of him, so not in a rush.
No disrespect to Kane or Big Show, they were both big players in the business, but they don't really need to be rushed into it, both fantastic and had strong careers, but the people ahead of them had stronger ones.
I want to be biased towards Rick Rude here, because without question the guy was incredible and an amazing heel who had the potential to be more than what he became.
Michael Buffer, I'm mixed on, never cared for the celebrity wing, which is basically where he would technically fall.
Brutus, never, his career didn't amount of much of anything, he wasn't the good of a worker, he didn't have much of an upside to him.
Undertaker
The Rock
Vince McMahon
Triple H
Paul Heyman
Hart Foundation
DX
The Dudley Boyz
Daniel Bryan
Brock Lesnar
Kane
Big Show
Rick Rude
Michael Buffer
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.
Brutus The Barber Beefcake
It's really a toss-up between The Rock/Undertaker (I went with Undertaker though), same with Vince and Triple H, though since their authorities figures (though HHH by career alone deserves it just as much as Rock/Undertaker), I figure there is no rush. Heyman has claim to be in regardless, because of his contributions to the business.
I'm probably a little baised towards the Hart Foundation, but both them and DX certainly deserve it. The Dudley's follow simply because their one of the most dominate tag-teams in the business.
Daniel Bryan is low because I think it's a little too soon to let him in, while I agreed with Edge going in, it was far too soon to place him in. Brock Lesnar still has time ahead of him, so not in a rush.
No disrespect to Kane or Big Show, they were both big players in the business, but they don't really need to be rushed into it, both fantastic and had strong careers, but the people ahead of them had stronger ones.
I want to be biased towards Rick Rude here, because without question the guy was incredible and an amazing heel who had the potential to be more than what he became.
Michael Buffer, I'm mixed on, never cared for the celebrity wing, which is basically where he would technically fall.
Brutus, never, his career didn't amount of much of anything, he wasn't the good of a worker, he didn't have much of an upside to him.
Lord_Frish
Occasional Pre-Show
These guys could headline their own year:
Undertaker
Vince McMahon
Triple H
The Rock
Big Show
Kane
Brock Lesnar
Daniel Bryan
These guys definitely deserve it but probably won't headline
Paul Heyman
The Dudley Boyz
Rick Rude
Maybe...
DX
Hart Foundation
Nah:
Michael Buffer
Brutus the Barber Beefcake
The top ones go without saying, so I won't specify why exactly. I put Taker at number 1 not just because of his in ring career but everything he did in the locker room and the high esteem he is held by almost everyone.
I think DX deserves it more than the Hart Foundation. DX lasted much longer as a stable and had a bigger overall effect on the direction of the business. However, the Hart Foundation in 97 definitely had a strong influence on the business. I just don't know if the individual members deserve a HoF nod. I'd say Michaels, Triple H, and Chyna deserve it (she won't get it). Maybe Road Dogg, even less a maybe to Billy Gunn. Waltman doesn't deserve it but might get it anyway.
The Hart Foundation on the other hand, I feel like every member except maybe Pillman deserve a HoF induction. But less so than DX as a whole. I wouldn't be opposed to either faction making it in but just not sure if they belong there.
Michael Buffer didn't contribute much to wrestling. He did give main events an important feel to it, but he didn't really play a part in wrestling outside of that. His contribution is not much bigger than all the celebrity guest announcers WWE had in the 90s.
I am not sure if this is entirely out of bias against Brutus, I despise him like he has given me some personal insult. His career is nothing special at all, I doubt he would have done anything at all if it weren't for hogan. That being said, Koko B Ware is in the hall of fame, but I think WWE has tried to be more careful who gets in now. They play down Koko's induction.
Undertaker
Vince McMahon
Triple H
The Rock
Big Show
Kane
Brock Lesnar
Daniel Bryan
These guys definitely deserve it but probably won't headline
Paul Heyman
The Dudley Boyz
Rick Rude
Maybe...
DX
Hart Foundation
Nah:
Michael Buffer
Brutus the Barber Beefcake
The top ones go without saying, so I won't specify why exactly. I put Taker at number 1 not just because of his in ring career but everything he did in the locker room and the high esteem he is held by almost everyone.
I think DX deserves it more than the Hart Foundation. DX lasted much longer as a stable and had a bigger overall effect on the direction of the business. However, the Hart Foundation in 97 definitely had a strong influence on the business. I just don't know if the individual members deserve a HoF nod. I'd say Michaels, Triple H, and Chyna deserve it (she won't get it). Maybe Road Dogg, even less a maybe to Billy Gunn. Waltman doesn't deserve it but might get it anyway.
The Hart Foundation on the other hand, I feel like every member except maybe Pillman deserve a HoF induction. But less so than DX as a whole. I wouldn't be opposed to either faction making it in but just not sure if they belong there.
Michael Buffer didn't contribute much to wrestling. He did give main events an important feel to it, but he didn't really play a part in wrestling outside of that. His contribution is not much bigger than all the celebrity guest announcers WWE had in the 90s.
I am not sure if this is entirely out of bias against Brutus, I despise him like he has given me some personal insult. His career is nothing special at all, I doubt he would have done anything at all if it weren't for hogan. That being said, Koko B Ware is in the hall of fame, but I think WWE has tried to be more careful who gets in now. They play down Koko's induction.
That N Word
Actively evolving
Question: Why is Cena and Orton not on this list? They both deserve it more than majority of this list. I would personally feel the four that absolutely deserves it over anyone would be Undertaker,Cena,Vince,HHH. In that order. The Rock would be the fifth guy on that list, with Orton as sixth,and Kane at sixth. I would put Bryan as 7th,Show at 8th,and Lesnar at 9th.
The Hart Foundation, as great as they were will probably never go in. DX won't be in for a number of years. Atleast until after Trips is in there.
The Hart Foundation, as great as they were will probably never go in. DX won't be in for a number of years. Atleast until after Trips is in there.
I picked Taker mainly because this year will likely be his last Wrestlemania, and it`s in his some state of Texas.
The others on the list will all go in at some point in time, some deserve it sooner than others, but I can`t see Vince going in until he dies. Daniel Bryan not for a couple of years, same for the Rock.
With DX and the Hart Foundation, you have the problem with some of their members. You can`t induct DX without inducting Chyna and X-Pac, and HHH has already said Chyna won`t go into the HOF because of the porn. In that case X-Pac would be excluded as well.
As long as Martha Hart is alive, she won`t allow Owen Hart to go in either. The WWE could pull a fast one and induct the whole Hart Foundation against her wishes of course but she`s been relatively quiet lately and you don`t want to start her up again.
The rest of the list are as I said HOF worthy, and I`m sure each of them will make it in. When is up to McMahon and who knows what he`s thinking these days.
The others on the list will all go in at some point in time, some deserve it sooner than others, but I can`t see Vince going in until he dies. Daniel Bryan not for a couple of years, same for the Rock.
With DX and the Hart Foundation, you have the problem with some of their members. You can`t induct DX without inducting Chyna and X-Pac, and HHH has already said Chyna won`t go into the HOF because of the porn. In that case X-Pac would be excluded as well.
As long as Martha Hart is alive, she won`t allow Owen Hart to go in either. The WWE could pull a fast one and induct the whole Hart Foundation against her wishes of course but she`s been relatively quiet lately and you don`t want to start her up again.
The rest of the list are as I said HOF worthy, and I`m sure each of them will make it in. When is up to McMahon and who knows what he`s thinking these days.
Man, that is a tough list, Taker, Rock and Vince are all pretty big ones, Vince doesn't want to go in, so they'll do him postmortem, Undertaker should have an entire Wrestlemania event dedicated to him, not just a hof. Rock Deserves a huge spot, but that needs to wait until say Wrestlemania 50?
If we're going just flat out, on the list who deserves it -THE- Most, It's Vince, then Taker then Rock.
Brutus Beefcake or Michael Buffer on the low end of don't deserve, I admire Buffer's thing for WCW, but he's way down on the list. Beefcake didn't really leave much of a mark on wrestling, like almost everyone else on the list.
Names like Paul Wight, well he's been consistently a company man for 20 years now between both, been champion. I don't hold him far from Andre in regards to big men, I'd almost put him above Andre in some cases, but I think he's middle of the pack because his list of ACTUAL accomplishments is a bit low, he was World champion a few times, Tag Champion, was a part of the nWo etc...
I don't think DX needs to be inducted because HHH, HBK, and Road Dogg will all be inducted themselves, Waltman and Billy Gunn don't really need the nod, and WWE wants nothing to do with Joanie Lauerer. Then again, WWE decisions are usually really dumb, and they'd induct the HHH + HBK Shilling DX Gimmick revival.
I'm a big Daniel Bryan Fan, but I don't think he should go into the WWE Hall of Fame anytime soon. Let his run ferment a bit, and if it still smells good in a decade, vote him in, but right now, I think his WWE run was sort of a mess because of booking, even though he had quite a few awesome moments.
Dudleys are a no brainer, Their ECW, WWE runs alone are enough to be legends, but if you add in their TNA and Japan exploits, they're the longest successful tag team in Wrestling history.
Kane should go in with Undertaker, their careers have just been so inevitably intertwined.
If we're going just flat out, on the list who deserves it -THE- Most, It's Vince, then Taker then Rock.
Brutus Beefcake or Michael Buffer on the low end of don't deserve, I admire Buffer's thing for WCW, but he's way down on the list. Beefcake didn't really leave much of a mark on wrestling, like almost everyone else on the list.
Names like Paul Wight, well he's been consistently a company man for 20 years now between both, been champion. I don't hold him far from Andre in regards to big men, I'd almost put him above Andre in some cases, but I think he's middle of the pack because his list of ACTUAL accomplishments is a bit low, he was World champion a few times, Tag Champion, was a part of the nWo etc...
I don't think DX needs to be inducted because HHH, HBK, and Road Dogg will all be inducted themselves, Waltman and Billy Gunn don't really need the nod, and WWE wants nothing to do with Joanie Lauerer. Then again, WWE decisions are usually really dumb, and they'd induct the HHH + HBK Shilling DX Gimmick revival.
I'm a big Daniel Bryan Fan, but I don't think he should go into the WWE Hall of Fame anytime soon. Let his run ferment a bit, and if it still smells good in a decade, vote him in, but right now, I think his WWE run was sort of a mess because of booking, even though he had quite a few awesome moments.
Dudleys are a no brainer, Their ECW, WWE runs alone are enough to be legends, but if you add in their TNA and Japan exploits, they're the longest successful tag team in Wrestling history.
Kane should go in with Undertaker, their careers have just been so inevitably intertwined.
Heartbreak_Kid_707
Championship Contender
I guess I need to explain why I chose this list.
First Cena and Orton will be in the hall, I just ran out of room.
* Daniel Bryan. I personally don't think he has the credentials to be a Hall of Famer. I wouldn't put him in but I knew everyone would be asking. He was good, not great. If not for his connection with fans he wouldn't have got what he did. He's a solid B player at best.
* Rock, Triple H, Undertaker, Vince, and Dudley's all speak for their self.
* Michael Buffer, celebrity wing only.
* Kane and Big Show, in my eyes deserve it just as much as rock and taker do.
* Brutus, never loved or hated him. I added him because I heard a good rumor he's going in this year.
* Hart Foundation, they deserve it but won't make it. It would be a way to get Owen in, BUT the only way he ever would.
* Rick Rude, he deserves it. Some year down the line.
* DX, I've been pulling for all along. But only after HHH goes in his self.
* Paul Heyman, defiantly in maybe 5-6 years. But not as headlining his self.
* Brock Lesnar, eeeeehhhhhhhh I'm on the fence about.
PERSONALLY I think Chris Jericho deserves to be in more than anybody I mentioned!!!
First Cena and Orton will be in the hall, I just ran out of room.
* Daniel Bryan. I personally don't think he has the credentials to be a Hall of Famer. I wouldn't put him in but I knew everyone would be asking. He was good, not great. If not for his connection with fans he wouldn't have got what he did. He's a solid B player at best.
* Rock, Triple H, Undertaker, Vince, and Dudley's all speak for their self.
* Michael Buffer, celebrity wing only.
* Kane and Big Show, in my eyes deserve it just as much as rock and taker do.
* Brutus, never loved or hated him. I added him because I heard a good rumor he's going in this year.
* Hart Foundation, they deserve it but won't make it. It would be a way to get Owen in, BUT the only way he ever would.
* Rick Rude, he deserves it. Some year down the line.
* DX, I've been pulling for all along. But only after HHH goes in his self.
* Paul Heyman, defiantly in maybe 5-6 years. But not as headlining his self.
* Brock Lesnar, eeeeehhhhhhhh I'm on the fence about.
PERSONALLY I think Chris Jericho deserves to be in more than anybody I mentioned!!!
Obviously b/c he did not want to include them. Your question is like going to McDonalds and asking why you cant get a Nachos Bell Grande or Curly Fries. They simply are not one the menu and you need to work with what is available........ of course I kid.
To pose a question of my own. Why was Pillman omitted from the list of Hart Foundation members? Also, while my memory might be failing me, was Stu ever an actual part of the Foundation? Family is a given but the actual Foundation?
While there are many deserving options I am casting my vote for Taker. Mainly on legendary status, longevity and his in-ring usefulness (or lack of) in the future.
That N Word
Actively evolving
I don't recall asking you a damn thing. So you just sit there and let the grown folks talk and stay in a child's place.
The question is basically asking who deserves the HOF most. And Cena and Orton are above majority of the list. I am allowed to respond to the thread and state my opinion. It was rhetorical. As in didn't need a response. I didn't need a response from him, and I certainly didn't need it from his bitch. Lol nah i'm kidding
Heartbreak_Kid_707
Championship Contender
Um I don't think Stu ever was an actual "member" per say... Just the founding father, teacher, etc. Not an on screen persona. But he was mentioned on screen every single time any hart was out there. Pillman I simply ran y of room.
louchratis
Occasional Pre-Show
I'll reiterate what other people have posted: Several of those names will eventually headline Hall of Fame classes (Taker, The Rock, HHH, Brock, and Vince) and several more are shoo-ins eventually (Kane, Big Show, Daniel Bryan, DX, Heyman, and the Dudley Boyz). Obviously the Hart Foundation should go in the next time Mania is in Canada but WWE won't induct them before first inducting Owen and I don't see that happening in the near future. The same can be said of waiting to induct DX until after first inducting HHH, but for vastly different reasons.
Personally, I don't think Brutus did enough to justify a HOF induction but then again, I didn't think The Buschwackers were hall-worthy either. I'm okay with Michael Buffer as a celeb, but there are other more deserving celebrities who I think should be considered first. Muhammad Ali is tops on that list, but I think WWE wants to wait and induct him posthumously rather than have fans see the current version of Ali. There are conflicting reports about what kind of shape he's in but letting Laila Ali induct him with visuals of him as special guest referee from WM 1 would, in my opinion, be better for all parties involved.
Personally, I don't think Brutus did enough to justify a HOF induction but then again, I didn't think The Buschwackers were hall-worthy either. I'm okay with Michael Buffer as a celeb, but there are other more deserving celebrities who I think should be considered first. Muhammad Ali is tops on that list, but I think WWE wants to wait and induct him posthumously rather than have fans see the current version of Ali. There are conflicting reports about what kind of shape he's in but letting Laila Ali induct him with visuals of him as special guest referee from WM 1 would, in my opinion, be better for all parties involved.
S.J. Maximus
Championship Contender
Why is Chris Jericho not on this list.
I would feel quite content with my post stopping there because there's no need to elaborate, but I'll add some stuff in anyway. When I read this thread he was the very first person I thought of, and I feel like the fact that he doesn't even make a list that includes Michael Buffer and Brutus fucking Beefcake is an absolute travesty that actually adds to my point for why I think he is more deserving than everyone on this list:
Respect. I'm not entirely sure how the IWC feels about him, but IMO Chris Jericho is one of the best all-around performers in the history of professional wrestling. He has enjoyed immense success as a top heel AND as a top face, with several different gimmicks for each side of the spectrum. He has put on many classics with many different guys and has had many classic segments with others as well. Unfortunately, these last 5 years, he has willingly used himself as a "enhancement talent" that has put over plenty of people who simply didn't deserve it (such as Fandango). Looking at these last 5 years of Y2J's career is the exact reason why guys like HHH and Brock Lesnar should be extremely selective about who beats them. Beating Jericho almost means nothing anymore, because we have seen almost everyone do it. But look at his career, he is a bona fide hall of famer. In terms of non-hall of famers, I'd put him behind Rock, HHH, Taker, and Cena, but before Orton, Brock and definitely Bryan. I just personally think he deserves it more than these guys in 2016 because of the last 5 years of his career. The OP doesn't respect him enough to put him on this list, the fans don't respect him enough to take his matches seriously, and I don't even think the creative team respects him that much either. A HOF nod would actually improve Jericho's current standing in the company, while I think it would do absolutely nothing for the legacies of the guys that are still billed as "one of the greatest of all time" like the other people I mentioned in this post.
I would feel quite content with my post stopping there because there's no need to elaborate, but I'll add some stuff in anyway. When I read this thread he was the very first person I thought of, and I feel like the fact that he doesn't even make a list that includes Michael Buffer and Brutus fucking Beefcake is an absolute travesty that actually adds to my point for why I think he is more deserving than everyone on this list:
Respect. I'm not entirely sure how the IWC feels about him, but IMO Chris Jericho is one of the best all-around performers in the history of professional wrestling. He has enjoyed immense success as a top heel AND as a top face, with several different gimmicks for each side of the spectrum. He has put on many classics with many different guys and has had many classic segments with others as well. Unfortunately, these last 5 years, he has willingly used himself as a "enhancement talent" that has put over plenty of people who simply didn't deserve it (such as Fandango). Looking at these last 5 years of Y2J's career is the exact reason why guys like HHH and Brock Lesnar should be extremely selective about who beats them. Beating Jericho almost means nothing anymore, because we have seen almost everyone do it. But look at his career, he is a bona fide hall of famer. In terms of non-hall of famers, I'd put him behind Rock, HHH, Taker, and Cena, but before Orton, Brock and definitely Bryan. I just personally think he deserves it more than these guys in 2016 because of the last 5 years of his career. The OP doesn't respect him enough to put him on this list, the fans don't respect him enough to take his matches seriously, and I don't even think the creative team respects him that much either. A HOF nod would actually improve Jericho's current standing in the company, while I think it would do absolutely nothing for the legacies of the guys that are still billed as "one of the greatest of all time" like the other people I mentioned in this post.
I think Jericho's role nowadays isn't to be the winner, or just someone to get a win over. His role at this point is simply a means to 'showcase' talent. He makes people look good in the ring and puts on good matches, him winning or losing does have an impact on some perception, but wins/losses aren't as big a deal in someone of his position.
Making someone good in a lose isn't a bad thing, I kind of wish WWE would follow that logic a little bit more, but making someone look good in a win is something that's important as well. There may be a couple of blemishes of talent that arguably didn't deserve time with him. But there are many that did and many that came out looking better because of Jericho. I for one, am proud of just how much he gave back and how much he cares to build up talent, when there are so few in the business that do.
In any case, there is no question Jericho deserves it.
Making someone good in a lose isn't a bad thing, I kind of wish WWE would follow that logic a little bit more, but making someone look good in a win is something that's important as well. There may be a couple of blemishes of talent that arguably didn't deserve time with him. But there are many that did and many that came out looking better because of Jericho. I for one, am proud of just how much he gave back and how much he cares to build up talent, when there are so few in the business that do.
In any case, there is no question Jericho deserves it.
EastCoastFan
Championship Contender
First off, Vince absolutely deserves it, as there would be no WWE without him, but he has gone on public record as saying he does not want to be inducted into the WWE HOF. That said, I'm sure they will induct him after he dies anyway.
As for the rest, I have put them in order from most-deserving to least-deserving:
The Undertaker - He will go in as soon as he decides he's ready to retire. He's earned it.
The Rock - how can you NOT induct "the most electricfying man in all of sports entertainment"? I'm surprised he hasn't been inducted yet.
Paul Heyman - absolutely deserves it, but probably won't get it if there's any truth to the rumors about Stephanie McMahon hating his guts.
D-Generation X (HBK, HHH, the New Age Outlaws, X-Pac and Chyna) - if you're not going to induct all of them, don't bother.
Rick Rude - deserves it, but many feel he won't get it as Vince never forgave him for jumping to WCW the way he did (appearing on Raw & Nitro the same night)
Triple H - even though he has a bad reputation for backstage politicking, he's had a good enough in-ring career to justify a HOF induction.
The Dudley Boyz (Bubba Ray & D-Von) - Arguably the greatest tag team of the last 20 years. If they want, Spike can give their induction speech.
Brock Lesnar - You know he'll go in, regardless of how fans feel about him only being a "part-timer".
Daniel Bryan - due to his recent retirement announcement, WWE may fast-track him into the HOF.
The Big Show - as much as some fans don't like him, he will get in. He's had a good, long career and deserves to be inducted.
Kane - even though he has largely spent his career permanently linked to the Undertaker, Kane has done well enough to merit his own spot in the HOF.
Brutus Beefcake - eh. If he had gotten one of the IC title reigns he was supposed to, maybe, but he's largely remembered more for being Hulk Hogan's buddy than anything else.
Michael Buffer - only as a celebrity. He probably deserves it more than Drew Carey did, which isn't saying much.
The Hart Foundation stable - no. They were only together less than a year. Pillman, Owen and Davey Boy are more worthy of going in on their own (or Davey goes in as one of the British Bulldogs with the Dynamite Kid), while Neidhart only deserves it if the Hart Foundation tag team is inducted.
As for the rest, I have put them in order from most-deserving to least-deserving:
The Undertaker - He will go in as soon as he decides he's ready to retire. He's earned it.
The Rock - how can you NOT induct "the most electricfying man in all of sports entertainment"? I'm surprised he hasn't been inducted yet.
Paul Heyman - absolutely deserves it, but probably won't get it if there's any truth to the rumors about Stephanie McMahon hating his guts.
D-Generation X (HBK, HHH, the New Age Outlaws, X-Pac and Chyna) - if you're not going to induct all of them, don't bother.
Rick Rude - deserves it, but many feel he won't get it as Vince never forgave him for jumping to WCW the way he did (appearing on Raw & Nitro the same night)
Triple H - even though he has a bad reputation for backstage politicking, he's had a good enough in-ring career to justify a HOF induction.
The Dudley Boyz (Bubba Ray & D-Von) - Arguably the greatest tag team of the last 20 years. If they want, Spike can give their induction speech.
Brock Lesnar - You know he'll go in, regardless of how fans feel about him only being a "part-timer".
Daniel Bryan - due to his recent retirement announcement, WWE may fast-track him into the HOF.
The Big Show - as much as some fans don't like him, he will get in. He's had a good, long career and deserves to be inducted.
Kane - even though he has largely spent his career permanently linked to the Undertaker, Kane has done well enough to merit his own spot in the HOF.
Brutus Beefcake - eh. If he had gotten one of the IC title reigns he was supposed to, maybe, but he's largely remembered more for being Hulk Hogan's buddy than anything else.
Michael Buffer - only as a celebrity. He probably deserves it more than Drew Carey did, which isn't saying much.
The Hart Foundation stable - no. They were only together less than a year. Pillman, Owen and Davey Boy are more worthy of going in on their own (or Davey goes in as one of the British Bulldogs with the Dynamite Kid), while Neidhart only deserves it if the Hart Foundation tag team is inducted.
King Patrick Star
K. O. T. R. 2007 - Team Undisputed
In my opinion, using only the selections from the poll, starting from least deserving and ending with the most deserving of a WWE Hall Of Fame vote are:
15. Michael Buffer
Celebrities, to me, will always be the least deserving, but I understand why some get inducted.
14. The Hart Foundation
13. DX
I believe Stables deserve a nod, but only after the members, or at the very least, the leaders, of the Stable are already in. That would be like inducting the 1992 USA Dream Team before inducting Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson.
12. Brutus The Barber beefcake
11. Rick Rude
Mid-Carders deserve as much respect as Main Eventers, but at the end of the day, they were still mid-carders. If Koko B. Ware is in, which he deserved, then everyone on the poll should be in.
10. The Dudley's Boyz
Tag Teams definitely must be in, and the tag team on this poll is the top Tag Team of all time in my opinion.
9. Paul Heyman
Managers play as big of a role as who they are managing, and the manager on this poll could have his own wing full of Champions hes managed himself.
8. Daniel Bryan
7. Brock Lesnar
6. Kane
5. The Big Show
4. The Undertaker
3. Triple H
2. The Rock
Now while the order may differ from others, all of the World Champions on this poll undoubtedly will be Hall Of Famers one day. That goes without question. Each one of them could headline a class.
1. Vince McMahon
After all that said, there is only one man who deserves to be in the WWE Hall Of Fame more than whoever is already in it and whoever is going to be in it.
Looking at the pool, this would make one hell of a Hall Of Fame class if they were all to be inducted in the same year.
15. Michael Buffer
Celebrities, to me, will always be the least deserving, but I understand why some get inducted.
14. The Hart Foundation
13. DX
I believe Stables deserve a nod, but only after the members, or at the very least, the leaders, of the Stable are already in. That would be like inducting the 1992 USA Dream Team before inducting Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson.
12. Brutus The Barber beefcake
11. Rick Rude
Mid-Carders deserve as much respect as Main Eventers, but at the end of the day, they were still mid-carders. If Koko B. Ware is in, which he deserved, then everyone on the poll should be in.
10. The Dudley's Boyz
Tag Teams definitely must be in, and the tag team on this poll is the top Tag Team of all time in my opinion.
9. Paul Heyman
Managers play as big of a role as who they are managing, and the manager on this poll could have his own wing full of Champions hes managed himself.
8. Daniel Bryan
7. Brock Lesnar
6. Kane
5. The Big Show
4. The Undertaker
3. Triple H
2. The Rock
Now while the order may differ from others, all of the World Champions on this poll undoubtedly will be Hall Of Famers one day. That goes without question. Each one of them could headline a class.
1. Vince McMahon
After all that said, there is only one man who deserves to be in the WWE Hall Of Fame more than whoever is already in it and whoever is going to be in it.
Looking at the pool, this would make one hell of a Hall Of Fame class if they were all to be inducted in the same year.
Terry Gyimah
Championship Contender
Undertaker
The Rock
Vince McMahon
Triple H
Paul Heyman
Hart Foundation
DX
The Dudley Boyz
Daniel Bryan
Brock Lesnar
Kane
Big Show
Rick Rude
Michael Buffer
These guys could headline their own year but out of these guys definite headliners would be The Undertaker, Triple H, Vince McMahon himself, Rock definitely and definitely Bryan as well as Brock Lesnar they could all headline their own classes
Kane and Big Show they would be Hall of Famers but them actually headlining a class I can't see that happening because at best they would be second ballot WWE Hall of Famers at least
Dudley Boyz as far as tag teams go they definitely would be first ballot probably one of if not the greatest tag team of all time their accolades are next to none and not to mention they helped revolutionize the Tables match but also helped revolutionize TLC as well
DX if you induct them as a stable you would have to induct all members that being Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Road Dogg, Billy Gunn and X-Pac but then where does that leave Chyna? She was also in DX and same with Rick Rude he was also in DX too
Heyman if he were to be inducted then definitely Brock would be the one to induct him if not then it would probably be Vince inducting Heyman I would have said CM Punk if he were still around that he would be the perfect guy to induct Heyman
Hart Foundation as for them it is long overdue if you ask me but then by inducting the Hart Foundation you would have to induct all members that being Bret, Owen, Bulldog, Neidhart and Pillman because Pillman was in the Hart Foundation but if Owen were to go in with the Foundation would Martha be okay with it? And then there's Bulldog too if he were to go in wouldn't Diana have a problem with it?
The Rock
Vince McMahon
Triple H
Paul Heyman
Hart Foundation
DX
The Dudley Boyz
Daniel Bryan
Brock Lesnar
Kane
Big Show
Rick Rude
Michael Buffer
These guys could headline their own year but out of these guys definite headliners would be The Undertaker, Triple H, Vince McMahon himself, Rock definitely and definitely Bryan as well as Brock Lesnar they could all headline their own classes
Kane and Big Show they would be Hall of Famers but them actually headlining a class I can't see that happening because at best they would be second ballot WWE Hall of Famers at least
Dudley Boyz as far as tag teams go they definitely would be first ballot probably one of if not the greatest tag team of all time their accolades are next to none and not to mention they helped revolutionize the Tables match but also helped revolutionize TLC as well
DX if you induct them as a stable you would have to induct all members that being Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Road Dogg, Billy Gunn and X-Pac but then where does that leave Chyna? She was also in DX and same with Rick Rude he was also in DX too
Heyman if he were to be inducted then definitely Brock would be the one to induct him if not then it would probably be Vince inducting Heyman I would have said CM Punk if he were still around that he would be the perfect guy to induct Heyman
Hart Foundation as for them it is long overdue if you ask me but then by inducting the Hart Foundation you would have to induct all members that being Bret, Owen, Bulldog, Neidhart and Pillman because Pillman was in the Hart Foundation but if Owen were to go in with the Foundation would Martha be okay with it? And then there's Bulldog too if he were to go in wouldn't Diana have a problem with it?
How Vince McMahon isn't the first name on everyone's lips is beyond me. He created the Hall of Fame and pretty much everything that goes along with it. Would there really be characters like The Undertaker and The Rock without Vince McMahon? He's the person who deserves it the most by a clear margin. I also like when people are rewarded for their work as they do it. Vince said that he would go in when his work with WWE was over. But he also said he would never retire whilst he was still able. So, for my money, he deserves the nod before he is a vegetable or dead.
Man, nah. There was wrestling before Vince, and there will be wrestling after Vince.
And yes, there would be characters like "The Rock" and probably many more of them.....since "The Rock" was basically being a trumped up version of himself. If more people were given the freedom to do that, we'd have many more compelling characters. Vince had "The Rock" being a complete cornball. To his credit, he listened to the people, realized "Rocky Maivia" sucked, and let the man cut loose. He should do that more often.
Vince struck gold with the Undertaker character, but the misses(usually in ridiculous fashion) are much more numerous than the hits in that area.
Sure there was wrestling. But we're talking about the WWE Hall of Fame not just wrestling. He created the WWE Hall of Fame. Without him, we wouldn't be having this discussion, would we?
Also, no one really remembers the misses that Vince gets. People remember the massive names. People remember Andre, Hogan, Savage, Rock, Austin and Cena. He might get it wrong sometimes but you don't hear about Kizarny that often when you're referring to Vince McMahon.
I mean....creating a Hall of Fame isn't that groundbreaking, is it? If he didn't do it, someone else would have.......and honestly I feel like someone else could've done a better job creating a much more CREDIBLE Hall of Fame than Vince has. I mean, he basically puts in whoever he wants to. There's no process. It's why someone like Rick Rude isn't in, and Koko B Ware is. It's why Randy Savage went in about 15 years too late(and after he was dead). The WWE Hall of Fame is a joke.
Vince's track record of "creating stars" in the 2000's, quite frankly, sucks. Cena is the only one you named that has done it in the 2000's. In fact, he actually seems to cool the guys off that the fans like. Bryan and Punk happened organically and in spite of Vince. And Andre the Giant was a STAR when Vince was a nobody, Vince didn't have squat to do with that. He's massively overrated in "making stars". He had Hulkamania, and then he let guys cut loose in the Attitude Era. Beyond that, he's done more harm than good IMO.
out of all the names on that list, the most deserving of a hof spot would be vince mcmahon himself because without him, their no WWE as we know it today and all those other guys on that list wouldn't have had the success they had without WWE. The only problem is that until Vince dies, he won't nominate himself as an inductee so it will have to be a post mortem induction which is sad because i would have love to hear vince's speech.
i have to disagree with you on this, i've been watching wwe since the beginning of hulkamania and let face it, Yeah, there was wrestling before vince and it drew really good money during the terretories era, but let's face it, you might not like it but vince took a wrestling territory and was able to make it a global promotion by finding the best talents that others promoters didn'T use properly and signing them to contract.
Hogan was pretty much a wasted talent in the AWA and he became one of the biggest name in wrestling because of vince, you could say the same thing about Piper, savage, warrior, undertaker, austin and the list goes on of guys that were nobodies in other companies and he made them stars. Austin wouldn't have been that megastar he became without vince and he said it on his podcast many times over the years. The rock wouldn'T have become the movie star he became without vince because of 2 simple reason, first he wouldn'T have gotten the exposure of being on national t.v every week and second, he wouldn't have gotten somebody like vince that believe in him so much that he put some money into the rock first leading acting gig in the scorpion king.
The fact is that vince might have lost his touch today and let's face it, i don't blame the guy too much since it's becoming harder and harder to please everybody right know. something that might have work 10 or 20 years ago won't work today because the fans are becoming smarters and it's easier to complain when you don'T like something. A guy like roman reigns or Kevin owens would have been a main event talents back in the 80's or mid 90's because fans still believe in babyface and heel. Now, it's all about the wrestling moves and performance, that why guys like daniel bryan have to retire at an early age. So personally, i think that vince deserve a spot in the WWE HOF mostly Because if he didn'T risk everything back when he bought the company from is dad, there wouldn'T be a WWE today and all the major stars that he created would have existed.
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