Who agrees that only 6 or 7 Manias have the credibility of being called WrestleMania?

Alot of people are comparing WrestleMania to the Super Bowl on this thread and saying that just because a Super Bowl is bad doesn't mean it's not a Super Bowl. Just because WrestleMania is bad doesnt mean it's not WrestleMania.....Here's the big difference.....It is totally out of anyones control if the Super Bowl is bad because it's not scripted. A good Super Bowl game is a treat because there have been so many bad ones over the years....Wrestling is scripted therefore every WrestleMania should be able to deliver. And the sad thing is, they just simply don't anymore. I dont understand how you can hype the Hell out of this past years WM and deliver such an average event. Hart/McMahon was real bad. Cena/Batista felt like RAW. UT-HBK was the exact same match as 25. Edge/Jericho was boring. How does this happen? I think the WWE is far more to blame for a bad WrestleMania than the NFL is to be blamed for a bad Super Bowl...
 
I dont understand how you can hype the Hell out of this past years WM and deliver such an average event.

Considering this year's WrestleMania an average event is strictly an opinion. And even if the WWE writers sat in a room and tediously planned the worst PPV ever, why wouldn't the company advertise their biggest money producing event of the year??

Alot of people are comparing WrestleMania to the Super Bowl on this thread and saying that just because a Super Bowl is bad doesn't mean it's not a Super Bowl. Just because WrestleMania is bad doesnt mean it's not WrestleMania

The reason for the comparison is because both WrestleMania and the Super Bowl are traditional pasttimes in their own right. While WrestleMania is scripted, no one can always predict how good the match will be and if the audience will be into it.

And while I agree that not every match in any WrestleMania can particularly be considered a WrestleMania-worthy match (whatever that means), it's still a WrestleMania by every sense of the word. Like the saying goes, "if it quacks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, then it's a duck."
 
This thread shocks me. The first 15 manias were boring? That’s a pretty big statement. I’m with some others that think the thread starter has to be young. Probably around 15 years old I’m guessing. I’m not criticizing your opinion. If someone asked me to watch some wrestling from 1970 I’d probably find it pretty boring. If you’re not that young and were a fan during the early manias I can only wonder how you remained a fan all these years if you found the best event of the year boring every year.

I would separate the manias into four groups. Only manias 1 & 2 would be in the first group. 3-8 would be in the second group. 9-16 is the third. 17-26 would be the fourth. The WWF didn’t really find the right mania formula until WM3 as the first two were more experimental. 9-16 were composed of two brief eras in WWE history; the new generation and attitude. WWF was trying to find its niche post Hulkamania. 17-26 is WWE as it is today with the hype machine in overdrive. Mania was always hyped big, but the hype has gone to another level over the last ten years.

To me manias 3-8 were the golden years of WrestleMania. Remember what WWF television was like back then. Everything was squash matches with an occasional feature match. After always seeing matches like Tito Santana vs. Reno Riggins even a match like Hercules vs. Haku at mania was fun to watch. Other than mania, SummerSlam was the only event to give us a card full of feature matches. Even the three of the four SummerSlams during this time had tag matches as the main event. There were two other ppvs, but Survivor Series was always the tag eliminations and the rumble was the rumble. Also a lot of mania matches were built months in advance. Some feuds would start in October and not climax until mania. Now with five ppvs in between (one more on the whole yearly schedule back then) there’s no way we can get a build like that anymore.

The biggest difference between then and now is now everyone is overexposed. As I said back then you had mostly squash matches with no name jobbers. There were only four ppvs a year and two were gimmicks that didn’t feature singles matches. There was an occasional Saturday Night’s Main Event. Those were cool, but if Hogan was on it he would wrestle against someone to conclude his feud meaning they had already had their climax or a less worthy lackey of the person he was feuding with such as Bob Orton instead of Roddy Piper. For mania it was Andre, Savage, Warrior, etc. If raw was around in 1991 the last one before mania probably would have had Hulk Hogan & Ultimate Warrior vs. Sgt. Slaughter & Randy Savage. I don’t like how WWE does stuff like this now. I prefer television being used to advance the story and the opponents don’t meet up in matches until mania.

Now we have six hours of WWE programming every week with matches that all would have been considered features twenty years ago. There is also a ppv every month. It’s hard to keep things fresh. One of the best things about the old manias was how all the stars were together at one show. Now that happens every week. It’s also hard to get excited about one big show when there’s another right around the corner. I’m not saying I don’t get excited about mania now, because I do, but it’s not the same as the old days. Of course I was ages 7-12 during WM 3-8 so that has a lot to do with it. Everything is more exciting when you’re a kid. In my opinion no mania over the last ten years can match the excitement for the main events of manias 3, 5, & 6 in terms of big name matches.

I completely agree. Again, to the original poster on this thread, I am not belittling you. I have to think that you weren't around back in this era of wrestling, which isnt your fault. Back then, there were only 4 PPVs a year. Wrestlemania WAS the show. You didnt see your favorite superstar fighting a complete jobber with no wrestling name (not Santino Marella) very often. That made the magic of Wrestlemania that more special. There are way too many PPVs in a year now where storylines cant get to where they were back in the 80s/90s. The multitude of PPVs could work if creative got on the ball with extending feuds through several PPVs for some matches. Have the HUGE feuds culminate at Wrestlemania.
 
I can only assume that the person that started this thread was born around the time of wrestlemania X. Wrestlemania stopped being special a long time ago. Through the first ten they didn't have a pay per view every month so they had time to build some heat for a match. Now with a PPV every month, there really isn't anything they can put on that will be so much better others. I'm sure you didn't enjoy matches from the first few manias because you had no background. They were just matches to you. Take wrestlemania I. Watching the match now I'm sure most would say it wasn't very good. But back in 1985 the match was HUGE. There was so much heat going into that match that everybody wanted to see it and those who did loved it. The same can be said for wrestlemania III. Was the main event a great match? No. But it was the most anticipated match of all time. People absolutely loved that Hulk Hogan did what nobody thoght he could do. You put mania 16 on your short list. Aside from the championship matches the rest of the card was nothing but randomly thrown together tag team matches that would be boring to watch on Raw. I respect your opinion but there's no way you're old enough to truely appreciate the early wrestlemanias.

i agree. wrestlemania, and all ppv's actually, meant a lot more when there were only 4 or 5 ppv's a year. with a ppv every month like it is now, it's harder to separate wrestlemania from any other ppv. i would say of the first 15 wrestlemanias, only 2, 9, 11, 12, and 13 were not "worthy," and even those wrestlemanias had their moments. not to mention, you hardly saw wrestlers fight each other back then, as they usually just fought jobbers on tv. so even a match between two established wrestlers without much build up felt at least a little special.
 

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