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Which WWE Wrestler Has Improved The Most Since There Initial Debut?

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Weather it's in ring skills, mic skills or another aspect of there character. This can be a recent wrestler like Lashley or Kennedy. Or somebody from a few years ago, like The Rock or HHH.

Please give reasons.
 
For me, it would have to be Kennedy, because both his wrestling and mic skills have improved so much since he first insulted Funaki on his SmackDown! debut. I think WWE has wised up to this, which is why they drafted him to the "Superior Brand" (RAW).
 
Randy Orton and Batista.

If I'm wrong, feel more than welcome to correct me, but in one of his first television appearences with his shaggy hair, Orton was in a jobber tag match. He's got a lot of charisma now and his dropkick is awesome.

Kennedy is great now - I think he has what it takes.
 
Thorn has been really aggresive as of late. He has been tearing his opponets apart right when the bell rings. This guy has some talent, I jus wish he could use his talents against someone worthy unlike what ECW is givin him to work with.
 
Bobby Lashley - A man who came in with very little professional wrestling experience, and very little understanding of what it meant to have a good match. In the couple years he's been in the company, the guy has improved tremendously. He still has areas to improve obviously, but he runs the WWE babyface style well, he has a good connection with the crowd, and can hold his own in upper midcard matches, which is where he is at at the moment. He is a solid babyface wrestler and is even getting more comfortable on the microphone.

Bobby Lashley in the next couple of years will be a main-event mainstay. And he will be completely deserving of it.
 
I would have to say MVP, when he first debuted, the only heat he got from the crowd was for looking like a power ranger, however his fued with Benoit, and him studying tapes of the 80's have made him into perhaps, and I say perhaps the best mid card heel in the WWE period. The only thing I would change is his finisher, I really think the roll of the dice would suit him.

Hopefully he will keep the US title for a while, as JBL says about Matt Hardy, he is a mian event waiting to happen, and when he is done with the US title, the World title will be next.
 
Im gonna say Johnny Nitro has really inpressed me in the last few months. Starting off as Bishoffs personal butt kisser i gave him three weeks before he would be dropped. But ever since they gave him the make over and has been aloud to sharpen up his in ring skills i got to say in impressed he can hold a good match and keep me into his matches. His mic skills are still up and down but they are getting better the more they give him the mic. He honestly now reminds me of Shawm Michaels when he first turned heel. I think as long as Melina doesent get him in any more trouble he really has a nice singles futer ahead of him.
 
I'd definetly agree with Harrpau7 , MVP has elevated himself to a top player on Smackdown. When he debuted fans were less than impressed to say the least but even the most devout of skeptics has to be able to see the massive improvements he has made. The matches he had with Benoit were extremely entertaining and putting him in with such a great worker as Benoit seemed to draw the best out of MVP. Hopefully he'll just keep on raising his game coz he could very well be the next superstar to enter the main event picture.
 
Thorn has been really aggresive as of late. He has been tearing his opponets apart right when the bell rings. This guy has some talent, I jus wish he could use his talents against someone worthy unlike what ECW is givin him to work with.


i agree he should be moved to smackdown to fued with people like kane and the undertaker for me the undertaker could put him over the top when he returns from his injury personally i think kevin thorn has one of the best gothic/emo character WWE has had in a while
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i would say MVP, couse when he first arived he sucked to short thing up, now after hes work with benoit he has been 1 of the best hes matches with benoit where more then gr8 he really imroved after wrestlemania he the future of wwe if he can carry hes in-ring-work
 
i would say MVP, couse when he first arived he sucked to short thing up, now after hes work with benoit he has been 1 of the best hes matches with benoit where more then gr8 he really imroved after wrestlemania he the future of wwe if he can carry hes in-ring-work

I agree, with MVP, his programme with Benoit has really helped him a lot. He's taken a lot more seriously by fans now because of thoe matches. If only he didn't have that Malcolm X tattoo, because then he'd be able to have new serious ring gear. I think JBL's attitude change towards him reflects that of the average Internet fan.
 
I am going to go with Kenny Dykstra. Think about it. He's 20, sitting with the WWE creative team, and somebody says to him "we're going to give you a job, and you will be with 4 other dudes playing a group of male cheerleaders. You will do cheers to introduce yourselves before you wrestle." If I'm Kenny, I am thinking "ok, so I will go home tonight and start updating my resume..."

But no! The squad got over, thanks in part to Kenny's athleticism and creative maneuvers, and he has even gone on to decent singles and tag action - a feud with Ric Flair and teaming with Johnny Nitro? Not a bad spot to be in for a former male cheerleader!

And second, are we missing out with Candice Michelle? She was a damn liability when she first showed up, but her matches with Melina as of late give women's wrestling fans an inkling of hope that even with Trish Stratus and Lita gone, there still may be something here worth watching.
 
Quote*If only he didn't have that Malcolm X tattoo, because then he'd be able to have new serious ring gear.*Quote


as i live in england and i am not much on history, can you please explain about malcom x and why he cant have decent ring gear.

as to answer the question i think mr. kennedy, he is awesome on the mic and would be world champoin right now if he didnt get injured. i so hope he gets the strap of cena soon
 
malcom x was a black civil rights leader in the 60's. Kind of like Martin Luther King. The main difference is MLK was christian, and preached tolerance, and forgiveness and building communities with whites. Malcom X was muslim, and in nutshell was anti-white. They both were assasinated, however MLK is revered to this day by whites. Where as malcom X..i'll use the best analogy i can think of...got buried like warrior...made in impact..but politics will never give him full credit..Made too many enemies
 
The most improved wrestler would have to be Triple H.

From the snobby, blue-blooded Hunter Hearst Helmsley, who if this persona had remained, would have been a mid-card jobber until being released, into HHH: the King of Kings, the Game, the man who will definitely surpass Flair's record #titles, that's quite an improvement as I see it.

And don't give me the bullshit that it's all because he's married to the boss's daughter, I don't buy it for a second. He did it because he's that damn good. He has done it as both a face and a heel. He's done it solo as well as in factions (DX, Evolution, etc.,). He's elevated other guys to stardom (Orton and Batista). And he's done it with passion, something sorely missing from today's wrestlers. And he's done it despite serious injuries. And he's done it for a long time, from back in the Attitude era, when he had real competition, to today, where he virtually stands alone.
 
I realy think that Matt Hardy has improved.

Now he is ready to move up to the main event i think he could do a title rivalry with obviously Edge keeping the title.
He isnt ready to defend or have rivalrys with guys like Batista or Shawn Michaels but could make a great US or Intercontinental Champion
He constantly works hard and had kind of taken Randys old status as the top mid card guy.

Recently id say Candice Michelle has improved and so has Randys attitude i think he probly deserves a title run or at least a decent rivalry so we could see John Cenas ass get kicked.
Batista kind of as i saw it got to go to main event status were as Randy Orton lost out and has had to kind of take a back seat sometimes.
 
Id have to also go with MVP....the guy was nothing short of a joke that I didnt think was going to last when he first showed up, but since has improved vastly into someone i tune into the matches to see what HE will do...he is beginning to be put into matches with people such as Batista, and flair (wrestling gods forgive me, but comon all he does is chops now) becuase he is showing ability to CARRY people with his skills..now this is all in big thanks to chris benoit, I think MVP's program with him paid huge dividens to his development

Everyone is seeming to forget that EDGE used to just be a guy who ran in thru the crowd, did a flippy thingy, a spear, and the "downward spiral" (whoa thats taking it back for ya haha) and yell a lot...now he is one of the WWE top 5 guys id say...thats improvement...he is to the point were, like a kurt angle or a triple H, no matter if he is face or heel he still gets cheered becuase of his in ring skills...THAT is a huge improvement...
 
I would have to go with Carlito. He almost seems like a completely different wrestler in the ring now then he did when he first started. He still is far from perfect but he's come a long way since his debut IMO.
 
I think Carlito ... when he debuted, all he had was Jesus interfearing from the outside. He was sloppy and was painful to watch. Altho Im not a fan of his, I do admire his new moveset. He flies, he twists, he turns, and hes got a great finisher. Well dun :-p

Others include Umaga who is now a lightweight compared to the overweight, barely able to move Jamal. Hes actually made Cena look good in recent months and that is huge

oh and Johnny Nitro. He can do anythin in the ring now, whereas at first, I thought he was another scrap heap wrestler. I enjoy him now, whereas I use to really dislike him
 

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