Which W.M. main event was worse?

[xcoN]

Wrestlemania 9's Bret Hart vs Yokozuna with Hogan winning the title, or this past years W.M. main event between Cena vs Miz with the Rock re-starting the match for 2 minutes just to interfere and end it?

 

[The Champ]

I've never seen WrestleMania IX, but this year's ending was a mess and should have never happened the way it did.

At the very least, the match should have had some kind of decisive ending before The Rock came in. For example: Miz wins via SCF, celebrates and leaves, Cena stands in the ring disappointed. Then Rock's music hits, he comes out and Rock Bottoms Cena. Simple. Miz gets his moment, and Rock/Cena is built for next year. But instead, they had to make Miz look like a complete bitch who just can't win without interference. It's not like it even helped to get more heat on him, since Rock obviously didn't do it to help Miz.

 

[tjfjr4488]

yea mania 9 was worse i think it was Vince trying to do all he could by keeping hogan from leaving the company so he said yoko will win n ur come out n beat him for the belt...however hogan still decided to leave n he drop the belt to yoko at KOTR month or 2 later

 

[Joup7]

I wasn't a Wrestling fan at the time so I can't say i've ever seen Wrestlemania IX. But this year's was absolutely horrible. I had a good feeling Rock was going to cost Cena the title somehow, and I was fine with this. But the combination of everything that went down was more suited for an episode of Raw, or maybe a minor PPV, NOT WRESTLEMANIA. A Double Count Out, Rock restarting the match and instantly costing Cena the title, and then Rock proceeding to beat down and humiliate and destroy the WWE Champ who just defended his title at Wrestlemania. As a result, you made the champion look SO WEAK.

 

[OlderFan]

I didn't order this year's event and after hearing this i'm glad I didn't. I dont' get why any of it happened the way it apparently did. The Rock had enough "pop" just because he was there. No one needed to pump up his fan reception. For what happened to happen the way it did made both Cena and Miz looked like the "second string." And then on Raw to announce that Cena/Rock is the main event for next year. I think the kids in my family could write this better.

 

[rjoconnell]

Wrestlemania IX for sure. What a joke. All this emphasis on Bret Hart v Yokuzuna and then Hogan comes out of no where to win the title.. with a clothesline and a leg drop. Ugh, that man's career has always 'urked' me.

I also don't understand what's wrong with some of you IWC people. You have got to understand something, WWE is not geared towards what what you guys wanna see. WWE is geared towards little kids; John Cena is geared towards little kids. Thats why we call him SUPER CENA. The Miz didn't necessarily look weak, but there was no way he was gonna go over clean on Cena to the disappointment of all those crying children.

Listen, I was there at Wrestlemania. I was cheering for practically every heel I could. I was disappointed when Del Rio lost, but the two 10 year olds in front of me loved it. I was psyched when Cody Rhodes won, that was actually a good wrestling match, the two ten year olds in front of me didn't really understand the point of that match. They didn't let me hear the end of it when CM Punk lost (I was wearing my CM Punk Nexus shirt). When Cena lost, these poor kids had tears in their eyes, but don't misunderstand me, i'm a total deush and let these kids hear it by yelling about how AWESOME the miz is.

I feel like i lost my point: Wrestlemania IX way worse than this year. There's simply no way SuperCena will ever lose clean, same goes for UltimateOrton.

 

[meeks32]

I think the reason why things happened it was it did on sunday was the fact The Miz was actgually hurt. I think The WWE winged it to buy some time and to let the match actually end. On Raw you can tell The Miz wasn't right because once they hit Stone Cold he ran out of the ring. It would of been a better showing if they got rid of the Coore match and had The Money In the Bank Match instead and have Sin Carra fight and win it.

 

[jellmoo]

Oh wow... Okay, so WM IX was technically worse. But the fact that this conversation exists should show you how bad this one was.

WWE made so many mistakes with the booking of this show it just isn't funny. The fact that they went with the title match instead of HHH/Taker for the main event spot was misguided but somewhat understandable since they couldn't have known just how amazing that match was going to be. Still, it absolutely killed the flow of the show afterwards.

The problem with the main event was that the title didn't matter. The champion didn't matter. It was setup in such a way that the champ and his title were secondary. Now, I don't like The Miz, but that's not how you should book it at Wrestlemania. The fans were waiting for The Rock to show up, rather than paying attention to the match. And then finishing up the Wrestlemania main event with back to back screwjob finishes? Not the way to go.

 

[sislater69]

I don't think either is THE worst mania m.e ever, but choosing between the 2 then the utter total clusterfuck that was wm9 was a lot lot worse. The whole ppv sucked. The first ever wrestling event I watched was wm8, a year later, wm9 was so bad I nearly stopped watching then.

 

[Swamp D.]

I just think WM 27 was a bad mix. The young stars that were getting huge pushes all year Sheamus, Barrett, Del Rio, Ziggler, Morrison were all put in a backseat to the Rock and Stone Cold and that should not have happened! Yes, Those guys are HOFers, Legends, Icons but come on I tuned in to watch Wrestling not the every Monday's Soap Opera. It was not fair to the Wrestlers that pushed themselves all year and it wasn't fair to the fans for getting such lame matches do to time being taken up by Rock and Stone Cold. I would have preferred Drama in the ring and if your not wrestling then speak for 3 to 4 minutes not 45 minutes of the show. WM 27 as a whole was bad.

Cena and Miz Botched so many moves it looked silly, 3 matches were less then 5 minutes, Championship match first, Scrapping of Sheamus and Brian it was all just so bad. I know some Wrestlemanias were bad but since this one was 2 days ago then I will remember WM 27 as the worst.

 

[bigbootydaddyV]

The only problem with the WM 9 match was hogan's bitch fit at the end to get the title... but the Bret Yoko match was good and the end to that to set up hogan yoko was better than the stupid double countout... a better comparison to make would be wrestlemania 8 with hogan sid and the clusterfuck ending that had

 

[Rammsteinerteen]

Bret Hart vs Yokozuna WM 9 wasn't bad as everybody said it was. Their match at WM 10 was horrific though, I hated it. I'll list a bunch of terrible WM main events, and I'll bold the worst one, and give a reason. Hulk Hogan vs Andre, besides that one moment, was horrific. The match itself was poorly sold, with shitty moves. Hogan vs Sgt. Slaughter, King Kong Bundy, and Psycho Sid were all slow and boring, very overrated. His match with Yokozuna was ridiculous and very poitnless, since it was short. Lawrence Taylor vs Bam Bam Bigelow was also slow and boring, Undertaker vs Psycho Sid was the same, and Batista vs HHH was... okay. It was a bit slow, due to lack of good moves or memorable spots, especially for a WM main event. John Cena vs Miz was okay... but honestly, there was nothing memorable about it until The Rock came in, which is pathetic for Cena and Miz, because WWE SHOULD NEVER RELY ON A CELEBRITY TO MAKE A GREAT MAIN EVENT. Another terrible WM main event was Randy Orton vs Triple H, again, it was slow, with barely any moves or extremeness added. That was definitely worse than Cena vs Miz. But the worst WM match of all time would be:

Andre the Giant vs Hulk Hogan WWE Champion WM 3

If these two fought in Japan, the match would've been great, except they fought in WWE, and besides that one great slam by Hulk, the match had the most terribly applied moves, the slowest in ring action, and a stupid feud all together.

 

[The Perfect Max]

He benefitted enormously? "And I Quote," Really?

Miz's whole goal in the match was to prove that he belonged. He proved nothing. He beat Cena because of Rock's interference, and had his ass beat by The Rock afterwards. He looked like an afterthought instead of a victorious champion, which was exactly what shouldn't have happened. Tell me exactly, how did he benefit in any way from that?
QUOTE]

Really? Really? The Miz doesn't win clean. I put an emphasis on the doesn't. They are trying there absolute hardest to make him the greatest heel WWE Champion. How can they do that if he wins clean all the time?

Look, I get your point that The Miz is trying to prove he belongs, but, to me, I think he already has. Defeated John Morrison in a Falls Count Anywhere Match, Randy Orton 3 times (including a tables match) and Jerry Lawler twice (once in a Ladder Match). The Rock did what the majority of that Atlanta crowd wanted, John Cena lose.

People didn't want John Cena to win the WWE Championship, however, people don't want The Miz to retain the WWE Championship. How can you do it? Well, add The Rock into the mix, and let him cost John Cena. People went home happy, not that The Miz retained, but, The Rock cost John Cena.

 

[CuddleBuns84]

Well, I'm going to try to get creative here, and got a different route...

WrestleMania 20 had booked a triple main event if you will. They had the amazing triple threat match between Benoit, HHH, and HBK. One of the best matches in the business.

They had booked Guerro(Sorry for the spelling on that one) vs. Angle for the WWE championship. Great match. Went by smoothly. Those two can work so well.

Then, They had third Main Event.... Brock Lensar vs. Goldberg. For year or so, when Goldberg entered the WWE, people wanted to see that match. We all did. It would be destructive and amazing we all thought. Vince saved that one for WM20. He even got Stone Cold to ref it. But the two were leaving anyways, so they really didn't have a big care about the match. It was 20 minutes, the two walked around for at least 8. Grappled for 3. Goldberg did do an amazing gorilla press to Lensar, and that was it.

We were very lucky that wasn't that last match...

PS... This isn't a comparing a WrestleMania threads is. Because I thought we were discussing the worst WM main event. Then as I read other posts, I see we are have complaining about the PG era, the attitude era. It's the worse main event for WM thread folks.

 

[Los]

Well, I will have disagree on Hogan/Andre being the worst WM main event event. In fact, I'll go the opposite direction and say that match probably ends up in the top 3-5 for me. Clearly, you're not going to get a high-flying, athletic, or technical match from those two, but they certainly put on one of the great shows in Wrestlemania history. The single loudest pop in wrestling history is still that moment when Hogan slammed Andre. But you also had some great moments leading up to the slam: the epic staredown to start, the early near pinfall by Andre which looked very close to a 3 count, the first time Hogan drops Andre to his knees, and the dramatic imagery of Andre yapping at a victorious Hogan with Heenan burying his face in his hands in utter shame as they are carted away from the ring.

I do have to agree that this year's main event wasn't the worst by any means. As others have pointed out, that Hogan/Sid Justice match at WM8 was pure crap. The Bam Bam/LT match at WM11 was horrible as well. Miz/Cena doesn't even come close to those two.

 

[CuddleBuns84]

Oh wow... Okay, so WM IX was technically worse. But the fact that this conversation exists should show you how bad this one was.

WWE made so many mistakes with the booking of this show it just isn't funny. The fact that they went with the title match instead of HHH/Taker for the main event spot was misguided but somewhat understandable since they couldn't have known just how amazing that match was going to be. Still, it absolutely killed the flow of the show afterwards.

The problem with the main event was that the title didn't matter. The champion didn't matter. It was setup in such a way that the champ and his title were secondary. Now, I don't like The Miz, but that's not how you should book it at Wrestlemania. The fans were waiting for The Rock to show up, rather than paying attention to the match. And then finishing up the Wrestlemania main event with back to back screwjob finishes? Not the way to go.

It may not of been the way to go, but if you look at what the WWE did, they just set up Rock vs. Cena at WM28. It's going to be a year from now, and it's going to be in Miami. Rock's hometown. What a way to sell out that stadium, and get another million buys.

They sacrificed some of this year's WM, for just as big if not a bigger payoff for next year's WrestleMania. Setting up one more match from the Rock, is a pretty big deal. Every time we see Cena on TV. We think, he is going to see the Rock at WM28.

People may think, 'Well, will that heat last that long?' The answer is yes. I mean, we got 'fruity pebbles' being chanted through the Arena now. Which is just priceless.

 

[Calderownz]

Obviously, it's Yokozuna/Hogan. I mean, if you're looking at the match itself, it's definitely WrestleMania IX. If you're talking about the booking, it's obviously WM 9.

This is, quite frankly, a ridiculous comparison.

The Miz is the bad guy. He doesn't have to win clean. He's a heel. Winning is winning. Did he win? Yes. He came out fine in this situation.

The Rock needed to get involved with all that's gone on between John Cena and himself. He got involved and stalled for time when The Miz was legitimately injured. Did that get worked out? Yes. He came out fine.

John Cena lost without looking weak as he and Miz both kicked out of high-impact moves. Then, The Rock forces him to lose. Cena doesn't look bad as it took more than one person to beat him. He comes out fine in the end.

This type of ending makes sense. It helps build towards next WrestleMania. It helps The Miz win at a WrestleMania, which DOES legitimize him. In a few years, all that will be remembered is that The Miz retained. How it happened will be less focused on.

Cena looks like a good guy for not attacking The Rock on the next's nights Raw. The Rock isn't getting boo'd any time soon and The Miz actually got some big time responses from the Raw crowd.

I honestly don't see how any more could have been done.

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

I wouldn't call this 1 worse.. But it has to be WM9.. Yoko wins the world title and then were did Hogan come from?? How does he even get into the match? That's ridicolous!! Soo its WM9 and I don't think there has been any worser!!

 

[SuperSteve16]

I dont even know why we are comparing the two. Yokozuna Vs Bret Hart was a pretty bad match and Hogan winning the championship was just stupid and a way to keep Hogan in the company nd send the fans home happy. The Miz VS John Cena wasnt a bad match, but it wasnt really good at the same time. After the Triple H Vs Undertaker match, the fans were expecting something big but the match itself didnt live up to the hype. The match wasnt really given enough time and the count out ending was terrible, the restart of the match just for the rock to kill cena was just predictable. But when you compare the two matches, Cena Vs The miz is miles ahead of Yokozuna Vs Hart.

P.S Bam Bam Bigelow VS Lawrence Taylor (I think thats his name) is easily the worst wrestlemania main event of all time

 

[xcoN]

I don't know about miles but again, its was still better of the two but seriously not by much. I compared the two for the simple fact that this W.M. was that bad and could and probably will go down as one of the worst ever. You don't see how anymore could have been done? Ummmmm well if you look at the quality and the feud itself ALOT more could have been done. The Miz vs Cena wasn't long at all, nothing really happened wrestling wise, it ended at first in a double count out (something TNA would do heh) and then re-starts for a minute or so and ends a ridiculous way. Its just for debate, just sayin'. Don't take comparing them too personally.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

Booking wise, the WM IX main event was much worse than the WM 27 main event. Here Rock screwing Cena actually made a ton of sense because Cena had FU'ed Rock on the previous episode of Raw. Hogan drafting himself into a match against Yokozuna made no sense. Hogan had had zero interaction with either Bret or Yoko prior to WrestleMania. What should have been a Bret Hart moment became a Hogan moment. It showed how little faith the company had in Bret at that point. It also did no favours for Yokozuna to lose in less than 30 seconds to a man who had not been wrestling for some time.

On the other hand the WM 27 actually made Miz look good. He kicked out of an FU, something which a heel has not done for a long time and actually defeated John Cena at WrestleMania which has also not happened a hell lot. He managed to do something that even HHH, HBK and Batista have not done. Cena obviously looked good too and has the excuse of getting screwed to fall back upon.

In short, both the competitors of the WM 9 main event were made to look bad while both the competitors of WM 27 were made to look good. It's an easy decision, to be honest.