Which Is Better ECW Or WCW?

[TerrellCow]

is Better because well lok at its competetion with and look at how many of its wrestlers are still around. Now Think about it is RVD better than King Booker, is Sabu better than Sting, is Sandman better than Kevin Nash. Fell Free to post anything thank you

 

[5thHorseman]

ECW still, yes RVD is better than king booker, Sting is a legend sabu doesn't compare but change sabu with foley, austin, the steiners, and sting loses, kevin nash? now a days who isn't better than Nash, i would choose gillberg over nash, but it really doesn't matter in my opinion because its all owned by WWE, every "big" star with WCW was from WWf other than booker, goldberg and a few others, where ECW made unknown names stars and took wcw's and wwf's rejections and made them stars, and I was a huge fan of WCW in its prime, but WCW were glory days

 

[5thHorseman]

True but they should've had the best w/ Ted Turner as the financial backer. I will say though I miss WCW alot! WWE hasn't been the same without competition

 

[Tommatt]

Take all the wrestlers who started in ECW, that WCW bought out, and their talent roster is all of a sudden pretty damn big, and WCW's got really small.

 

[mordrid82]

It all depends on what you wanted at the time. ECW was more hardcore that is for sure. It had great high flyers. It was more intense. WCW before the bullshit with the nWo was great for good ol fashioned wrestling. Double A, Flair, Steamboat, Sting, Rude, Austin, Rhodes, Windam. It just depends on what you wanted at the time.

 

[Prophet]

is Better because well lok at its competetion with and look at how many of its wrestlers are still around. Now Think about it is RVD better than King Booker, is Sabu better than Sting, is Sandman better than Kevin Nash. Fell Free to post anything thank you

by far. I admit ECW is impressive none the less and I am glad to see that it's coming back, but I'm a fan for life and that was my show.

 

[Tommatt]

WCW just dosn't hold a flame. most of their stars were WWE rehashes. All of their technical wrestlers, and cruiserweights? Bought out ECW talent. ECW created new stars, and had the best pure wrestling of the time. WWE, nor WCW could compete with the matches that ECW was putting on at the time. And think about all the castoffs that ECW took in, and turned into hot commodities again. They took wrestlers nobody wanted, and changed their careers. WCW would buy them back and ruin them

WCW was good for one thing, the same thing the WWE is great at right now, misusing talent. WCW had some talented wrestlers, but they never gave them a push, never showcased them, nothing. So what good did it do?

WCW had a good run competing with WWE. They put on some great shows, and had some good storylines. The nWo was a great storyline... .for the first 4 months or so. WWE picked up their games, raised their attitude level and took some of ECW into it. And WCW had some great wrestling during its early days when it was pure wrestling, and no gimmicks.

But I'm sorry, nothing holds a flame to what ECW was. They took wrestlers who everybody though had no talent, and they put on great 30 minute matches. I'm not talking about barbwire, scaffold, hardcore pummelings, I'm talkinga bout the technical wrestling they put in the ring, the straight forward matches had better wrestling than WCW.

My baramoter? I look at the wrestlers who excelled in ECW putting on awesome shows, and look at how they went to WCW and were wasted.

I'm sorry, ECW was better. And for a period I preffered WCW to WWF.

 

[Kahn-chents]

I think that the fans make the organization. Sure, WCW had deep pockets and were able to "steal" a lot of the fans from the WWF/E. WCW was exciting to watch, especially with some of the storylines and it was sad to hear the "boring" chants at televised events.

With that said: I feel that ECW really had the best audience involvement. They would boo and cheer everything that went on in the ring. Hell, they would even go so far as to make no noise at the matches that really were boring.

The fans make the decision and the fans will always have their opinion.

Long live the WWE (hee hee)

 

[TerrellCow]

all righty then okay since ecw is better than WCW why was ecw the first of the 3 wrestling organizations to go out of business. another thing how many times did ecw sell out national arenas ohh yea never so before u say that they were better look at the stats and facts look at the star quality coming from each of the show such as Sting, Booker T, Goldberg, The Big Show who is now a ecw talent.

 

[Tommatt]

Sting was great. Booker T was a great wrestler. If you like goldber, well, yeah. You sure know wrestling. I mean, 100-0 what a streak! 2 moves what power! They did sell him.

Big show? I've yet to see him do ANYTHING impressive in the ring. Hes big. He can chokeslam. Hes, ummm, great.

Why did ECW go broke? They lost their TV deal which all their money was wrapped up in. And Paul E. Just couldn't manage the money, had to much responsibility and instead of passing off some of it, took it upon himself, and just cracked.

And WCW did have some great wrestlers, and they had a great legacy with the NWA. I remember watching it as a kid. They were far, far better than the WWF. WWF had the characters, the bright lights, but NWA had the wrestling. I'm comparing them from the ERA that ECW was around, and that is the bischoff era. And, well, it wasn't that good. They had some great storylines, but it was just stale. Every show, especially after the NWO came around, YOU KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN! Every week. You knew there woudl be screwjob ending after screwjob ending, and it got horrible. The only good matches they had were former ECW standouts. All the luchadores, the cruiserweights.

And I"m sorry, Big show is a joke. Goldberg was a joke.

 

[TerrellCow]

yea i know a littl about wrestling, but dont get me wrong i liked ecw its just that i feel it was overrated because yes they did make mid card wrestlers into main eventers like RVD, Sandman, Taz ,Rey, Eddie Chris Jericho and Beniot but when u talk about the heart and soul of wrestling WCW is the 1st in my mind not wwe and not ecw.

 

[Tommatt]

I had cut my post short because I had to leave, and updated it. WCW has a great legacy, but I really disliked the bischoff era, except for the first 4-6 months of NWO, and a few months before that.

Oh, and I used to go to halloween havoc every year when it was in vegas.

ECW just is something special to me. It pretty much made all other wrestling obsolete, I just couldn't believe it. I used to stay up late every saturday watching it. It would switch times, dates, sometimes even channels. Luckily there was a kiosk in the mall that sold tapes of ECW and FMW so I could get my fix. If they would have stayed afloat they would be the #1 promotion today.

 

[TerrellCow]

well ECW was trumendous for its time i just think that WCW was a lilttle more special but i just could'nt help but think that if ECW would have had the stars the WWF and WCW had then might have just been equally as powerful and would still be alive today as their own promotion.

 

[Tommatt]

WCW has that legacy, unfortunately its last, oh, I dunno, 5 years or so maybe. After the nWo got horribly stale, and that was all the show was about, about 5 months into it, the show was ruined for me. It was going downhill before that too, I blame that on hogan though. Unfortunately, ECW never had that legacy, because it was so shortlived. Had it survived we'd be talking about all the classic guy. I mean, think about it, how many guys primes were ruined by WWF when ECW went under. Sabu (although he mainly wrestled overseas where many of us couldn't see him) RVD, his prime was totally wasted in the WWE, creddible, sandman, dreamer, they're all still capable, but they've aged in these past 5 years. How many up and comers where there we never saw? The ECW hardcore dungeon, how many guys who were going through that would have been the next best thing. And I think the best thing ECW had, was they had an eye for up and ocming talent. Some of them moved on, some of them stayed, but they found talent like no other imo. And the guys other feds didn't want they took and turned into stars ( Would stone cold have been stone cold if not for his shortlived time in ECW?) or the ones whos careers were rejuvinated and given a whole new image (I still can't believe bigelow turned out as great as he was after ECW. ) I dunno, ECW was my favorite fed during the highlight of my wrestling fan days. I was a pretty hardcore fan, but ECW made me even more hardcore. I still hate I lived on the west coast all my life. I never got to see ECW in person. Now that i"m older, and have the money ( I would go to philly for a weekend for an ECW sho now) its gone, and will enver be.

It was better than anything out there. It changed the WWF, and WCW changed because of them too. They changed wrestling, whether vince admits it or not (as he dosn't in the rise and fall of ECW dvd. He dosn't admit that he borrowed from it for the attitued area) and unfortunately, it never got to what it could be. Mostly, because Paul was too much for paul

 

[TerrellCow]

Now dont forget WWE has it own stars that they made on their own HHH, The Rock, Kane, The Undertaker, Bret Hart, Kurt Angle, Shawn Micheals, and the factions like DX and Corperation the Heart Foundation, The Ministry.so all of their roster was not made up of stolen ECW/WCW wrestlers like Eddie or Beniot.

 

[Tommatt]

Oh this I know. WWE ( I still hate calling it that) has made some amazing wrestlers. And, it wasn't just making them by their story lines, they brought in tremendous wrestlers. Shawn Michaels is one of the greatest wrestlers ever. I mean, not only can he work a crowd, is exciting in the ring, but the guy can sell a match!

Undertake is possibly one of my favorite wrestlers of all time. DX was one of my favorite factions/storylines. I wasn't discounting it, not at all. Maybe the stone cold line did it. I just wonder if he would of become what he did. He just kinda became himself in ECW when he wans't held back, and developed his future stone cold personona (SP?)

I've never been a fan of kane though

Heart foundation, I remember the oringal. Still pissses me off about the screwjob, but vince did what he had to do.

Vince has done great evolving which is why hes still around. WCW I felt borrowed to heavily, had one great storyline, and let it go too far which was its downfall.

I know the WWE wasn't built off of ECW tallent, the better parts of nitro were IMO ( I though their cruiserweight division was the best they had, they should have showcased it more)

I don't discount WCW's legacy. They shouldn't have died, just were mismanaged.

I do however think that if ECW had that money backing them, they'd be alive and kicking and be a strong competitor with the WWE.

 

[Steve]

Both had their good sides.

ECW was better for the real hardcore wrestling, whereas WCW was good for having stars and building characters.

ECW was also good for the Lucha Libre action

 

[TerrellCow]

I have to disagree because wCw was good at putting on a good quality match. Some their matches were considered some of the best of all time where as ECW may only have a Few exceptional matches.

 

[Tommatt]

I'm going to disagree with you there cow, especially when you take the ammount of great ECW matches in its timespan, compared with the ammount of great matches and take into account how long they were around.

 

[OzzyMac]

I'm not sure why everyone seems to think WCW was around for SOOOOOOOO Long...It became WCW in 1991 or 92....ECW started in 94 I believe! It was just more popular...

ECW was cool for the novelty of Hardcore, but their roster was limited and they had too much of the same 2 guys going one on one constantly......I think RVD fought Jerry Lynn about 900 times for the TV title....

Gimme some Sting and the nWo anyday over ECW....and who could forget the double and triple cages that they've done in so many variations of...(Hogan + Macho vs. Dungeon of Doom) (War Games) (That crazy cage for the Ready to Rumble) etc...

 

[rkolover09]

Ecw is better b/c of the matches and everything else

 

[JohnnyRodz]

"True but they should've had the best w/ Ted Turner as the financial backer."

They did have the best when Ted was backing them. Once the AOL/Time Warner merger went through,Ted lost control of it and that's when things started going downhill.

 

[3rd eye]

Bar the nWo storyline & the creation of Big Poppa Pump ECW shit's on WCW purely cos they produced classic wrestling matches (Eddie vs Benoit) as well as hardcore slugfests

 

[TNAWCW]

ECW was impressive because of the passion the wrestlers had but they just didnt have what i took to be "pro wrestlers". WWF was just a stupid bullshit way of making people watch RAW and SD!. WCW was by far the best promotion for so many reasons I don't think I have time to name them all. I really didn't care for the "politics" backstage.

P.S. If WWF had any brains at all about real wrestling they could have ended the "glory" era (90's) the right way.

Goldberg vs. Austin
Rock vs. Hogan
DDP vs. HBK
Savage or Luger vs. HHH
Sting vs. Undertaker
Flair vs. Mankind

 

[Chloe B]

There Really isn't any comparison,Why is this even a topic?WCW had a top flight show for years and from 94-98 they had a much better league then WWF.If you wanted to watch ECW then you had to stay up to like 12 o'clock on a saturday nite just to see it.Who stays home on saturday nite to watch wrestling.And how the hell can you compare Sandman to Kevin Nash. Question=who is the best ECW champion Ever and how good of a career did he have in the actual Major Leagues?