What went wrong with Wrestlemania 27?

[GW_Hart86]

Although I dont think the event was a disaster, I don't think it was anywhere a success either which seems to be the general opinion of most wrestling fans from what I have been reading. It had a mix of good matches and bad matches I thought.

The problem in my opinion was that, once again, the WWE brought back retired veterans to steal the show, while the younger superstars didn't get a chance to shine. Now, i complete understand and accept the point that if The Rock wasn't there then the WWE wouldn't have sold the amount of tickets that it did, but the WWE has to start over somewhere.

The WWE I think has to get worse before it gets better. Retired veterans need to stay retired and wrestlers who are still there that perhaps shouldn't still be there need to go. Now I'm all for having veterans around if they are going to help pass the torch to the younger stars. What happened to The Miz at WM 27 was a joke and I agree with points made in other threads that he was made to look weak because of this.

That highlights to me that the WWE keep repeating the same mistake of not allowing younger talent to shine and the business is suffering as a consequence.

But all this is hardly a disaster, because the WWE is still the most watched show in the world and still one of the most wealthy businesses in the world. So, point being, they are still in a position to sort it all out, but it will take time. I just hope that they rectify this years "mistakes" at WM 28 next year. Let Cena win next year and Rock pass the torch!

 

[The_Reptile_]

To much time for backstage skits, not enough time for the matches, the match placement was just bizarre, a few of the guys just don't have good chemistry with one another, there's a whole lot of reasons WM 27 went wrong.

 

[dude_d_dude]

You're right, they decided to cut the US title match, a match most of us wanted to see, and in return we got the Rock yelling at the crowd for 20 minutes.
I thought the event was flat out terrible to be honest, there was about 3 DECENT matches. not even good, DECENT.
I don't care what anyone says, HHH vs Taker was horrid because it was just big spot/rest/big spot/rest for about 20 minutes.
They opened with the championship match which was idiotic, the Miz vs Cena was a big let down as no one cared that Miz won because everyone wanted to see Cena vs Rock. The tag match was a joke, no one REALLY wanted to see Snooki bury LayCool.

This thing was just terrible all around.

 

[Azane]

I liked most of the card, the biggest disappointment wasn't even the matches, it was the main event's ending that made it look like a low class RAW ending. Rocky stealing the spotlight for a full year is going to bury the entire youth movement, it already made Cena/Miz look unimportant compared to him.

 

[Poop Master Flex]

Mostly I think it was just poorly planned decisions is what made the event lackluster.

1st off having 8 matches in 4 hours is a bad idea, that is averaging 30 minutes a match when most guys on the roster can go 20 minutes tops. With only 8 matches in 4 hours you are going to have to waste a lot more time than usual especially when 2 of those matches were a total combined 10 minutes, that leaves 6 matches with 3:50 minutes of time. If they left on Sheamus vs. Bryan and split the 6 person mixed tag match into 2 matches they would have been much better off I think.

I don't mind celebrity involvement and skits at Wrestlemania but this year was a little bit overkill and I don't think the celebrities were used well for the most part. Snoop Dogg was used pretty badly and even though I like the Rock, I have a bit of a problem with him dominating the show like he did. This could have been a great opportunity to open up a new era in WWE but instead it was dominated by a guy who hasn't wrestled in 7 years. This year it seemed the forefront of Wrestlemania was actually the celebrities and not the talent itself.

They had 2 solid matches, a good one, 2 decent ones and the rest of the card sucked IMO so really most of the card was utterly forgettable. This isn't anything new at Wrestlemania, their just wasn't alot to get excited about.

What I think really killed the show was the overall booking. I thought the show was booked terribly from beginning to end. The 2 really short matches, The WHC match being first, Snooki being in the semi main event (after Taker and HHH no less), a main event which fell flat (mostly because of stupid booking), it just didn't flow well together.

What it all comes down to is that bad decisions were made, for the most part I thought the talent itself did pretty good but the booking decisions made really nullified what could have been a solid wrestlemania.

I'll say this WM27 wasn't nearly the worst WM I've ever seen but it was certainly forgettable outside the HHH vs. Taker match.

 

[TheNewStyle]

Let's see what I liked and didn't:

HHH vs Taker - this is the big one and I thought it was pretty great, specially considering that they are past their prime. Great way to keep the streak and I can only imagine how great this would have been with blood, fire and all kinds of crazy shit from the early days of the past decade. I could see Taker winning despite three pedigrees and even the tombstone piledriver being used against him, not to mention an unprotected chair shot to the head and several to the back.

Randy Orton vs CM Punk - this was my favorite, both put on a great match and Orton sold the knee injury to perfection, following it by an excellent RKO.

Rey Mysterio vs Cody Rhodes - a great match that I didn't expect to be this good and Rey did a great job at putting over Cody.

Edge vs Del Rio - another great match with pleasing results where WWE realize they pushed Del Rio too soon and both put on an entertaining match with great pace and a cool ending with the "car assault".

Cena vs Miz - I thought Cena seemed kinda uninspired coming into this match. That happy, cocky confident face he always has was missing but other than that the match was much better than I remembered it being when I re-watched it. Plus, all Cena haters could see him trying out some different moves like jumping from the top rope instead of the "5 moves of doom" bullshit. The ending with Rock appearing was cool but the actual ending being a draw completely sucked, though I understand it set up for the rock bottom.

This is where the good is at, otherwise I thought the 8 man tag team match and the 6 mixed tag team matches were both filler and waste of time. Michael Cole vs Jerry Lawler was pure entertainment that was completely wasted on bullshit and cheap attempts at continuing this stupid feud when yesterday should have been the end of it with Cole separated from Lawler into Smackdown and no longer Raw. And it disappointed me to see some of the worthless tag team matches making it before the US champion one. It was an alright show in my opinion, what went wrong was wrong matches were prioritized and some were just terrible.

 

[HamSwissman]

For those of you complaining about the so -called "youth movement", just remember the best match of the night. Let us also remember who sold the tickets this year. I love when the young talent is given a chance to shine, but trying to push an entire roster of young guns at once makes everyone look second-class. You have to build for the future, but ripping up the foundation of success just so you can take a chance on a bunch of new talent isn't going to help. What is going to help is the rookies taking fucking notes from Rocky on how to cut a promo, or paying attention to Taker and Trips telling a story without a single word said. But yes, this Wrestlemania sucked. At least we get Rock and Cena next year.

 

[ilapierre]

What went wrong at Wrestlemania? Well, you have a green roster. I love all the theories from obsessed marks who really believe in guys like CM Punk and The Miz. They keep talking about all the old guys but really who is all that old? Triple H? Taker? Who else? Most of the old guys aren't even wrestling anymore. Michael Cole being in a wrestling match is one main reason Wrestlemania wasn't that good. The Miz is just not a headliner yet, he looks weak no matter what Cena and The Rock do. Cena vs Rock should have happened this year. CM Punk vs Randy Orton. Yippee, Punk is nothing and Orton does the same superhero bullshit every match. Yawn. Edge vs Del Rio. Yippee skippy. Morrison and Stratus take on Snooki. Wake me up. I'm sorry but the young guys are really green, some will work out some won't but regardless most of them don't have what it takes to make things interesting yet. WWE has its weakest roster in decades so Wrestlemania is obviously gonna be weak without its two best wrestlers of the past 5 years: Michaels and Jericho.

I'm all in favour of the youth movement, it's the right direction to go while mixing these guys with Stone Cold and The Rock to build for the future. But The Miz is not a credible champ, CM Punk is not a credible threat to Randy Orton, Michael Cole is not a credible personality, Dolph Ziggler and John Morrison get no crowd reaction although they look the part. If it weren't for Taker, Trips and the Rock Wrestlemania would have tanked even more. So all the old guys kept the event from tanking. It's not their fault the young guys can't cut it yet.

 

[Rampage Bentley]

Although I dont think the event was a disaster, I don't think it was anywhere a success either which seems to be the general opinion of most wrestling fans from what I have been reading. It had a mix of good matches and bad matches I thought.

The problem in my opinion was that, once again, the WWE brought back retired veterans to steal the show, while the younger superstars didn't get a chance to shine. Now, i complete understand and accept the point that if The Rock wasn't there then the WWE wouldn't have sold the amount of tickets that it did, but the WWE has to start over somewhere.

The WWE I think has to get worse before it gets better. Retired veterans need to stay retired and wrestlers who are still there that perhaps shouldn't still be there need to go. Now I'm all for having veterans around if they are going to help pass the torch to the younger stars. What happened to The Miz at WM 27 was a joke and I agree with points made in other threads that he was made to look weak because of this.

That highlights to me that the WWE keep repeating the same mistake of not allowing younger talent to shine and the business is suffering as a consequence.

But all this is hardly a disaster, because the WWE is still the most watched show in the world and still one of the most wealthy businesses in the world. So, point being, they are still in a position to sort it all out, but it will take time. I just hope that they rectify this years "mistakes" at WM 28 next year. Let Cena win next year and Rock pass the torch!

The fact that Miz was even in the main event was a joke. I've watched every Wrestlemania since I was two years old and my Dad ordered Wrestlemania 3. I haven't missed one since then, and up until Rock got added into the Cena/Miz equation, I had no intentions of ordering this one.

I hate all this "Miz is getting buried" crap. It's almost as stupid as people bitching that "Triple H got buried by Warrior at Wrestlemania 12." You can't get buried if you're a nobody. Miz doesn't belong in the same ring as Rock or even Cena, his title run is a quirky little expirement and I'll be surprised if he can hang onto his spot.

 

[BobbyDigital]

Wrestlemania 27 would have been a really good Monday Night Raw, but not a PPV. Especially not a $55 PPV.

I wasn't too thrilled with a lot of things. The matches all seemed too short. I would have took the 8 man tag off the main card and done it preshow. Opening with the World Title match was stupid.
The US title bout should've opened the show. At least that would have been an exciting 5-8 minutes.
The ending to Punk vs. Orton was disappointing considering what a good match it had been up until then.
Rhodes vs Mysterio was my favorite match. Cody Rhodes is turning into one of my favorites but knowing the WWE they'll change that soon enough.
The Snooki match was when I decided to drop a deuce. I know better than to watch that shit (no pun intended)
HHH vs Taker was ok. Am I the only one who thinks Taker should've just not worked. I mean, I know its the streak but I think we would understand if you're too banged up to go.
Cole vs Lawler was as good as it was going to be when one of the combatants is Michael Cole.
Cena vs. Miz- I loved Miz's entrance with all the Real World stuff and Hate Me Now playing. He should've came out to that song. Cena's entrance blew. The match sucked. It really did. Don't keep watching it in order to get it to grow on you. The ending was stupid but it made sense if Miz did really suffer a concussion. The way things are nowadays, you would have to just end it quick.

What pisses me off the most, and I'm sure most of you will agree is that I talked myself into beliving this would be a good Wrestlemania beforehand. I should've just gone with my first instinct which was that it will suck. We'll never get those 4 hours back people

 

[Rammsteinerteen]

This is easy, I'll list what I liked and did not like and state a reason:

HATED
Daniel Bryan vs Sheamus: Could have easily been the match of the night, but WWE rather add other shitty matches.

Team Big Show vs Corre: Many reasons why I hated this, 1, they buried The Corre, 2, the match was fast and unexciting, 3, No proper build up, 4, ruining Kane's character, and 5, the fact that Justin Gabriel and Wade Barrett didn't even get one move done in the match.

Jerry Lawler vs Michael Cole: I wanted to see a 5 minute beat down, but instead, WWE attempted to make a long WRESTLING match, when that could have went to Daniel Bryan vs Sheamus or even Corre vs Team Big Show.

Team Snooki vs Team Laycool: Terrible match, the worst part was, JoMo or Dolph Ziggler wasn't even tagged in. JoMo got one move at least, but did Dolph? No...

Miz vs John Cena WWE Champion: The match itself was... okay. But for a WrestleMania main event? No, not even for a PPV main event. Poor wrestling display by Miz mostly, IMO. John Cena, we all know, can make great matches, but The Miz is still yet to prove himself, if ever.

The fact that they wasted so much time with Promos and Segments, is the reason why they didn't add Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan: I'm sorry, but I really didn't care for The Rock as a host, I had enough of him TALKING on RAW.

Christian being excluded: Should have had been part of the ME, but Vince McMahon is too far up his own ass to recognize his drawing power, and his talent on both the MIC AND THE RING.

LIKED

Edge vs Alberto Del Rio: The two put on a good match, and I'm glad the overrated Del Rio didn't win, because fast pushes, such as Swagger, Sheamus, or even Miz failed to draw my attention.

Cody Rhodes vs Rey Mysterio: They played the feud perfectly as the match was just the beginning of a great feud to develop.

CM Punk vs Randy Orton: Randy Orton is definitely overrated as he failed to impress me. He won after doing nothing but selling an injury... pathetic. I almost put this on hated because of him. CM Punk was mega impressive though, he was able to do fucking awesome moves. He was unpredictable, and he saved the match.

Undertaker vs HHH: One of the best matches in WM history, IMO.

Theres a lot of reasons why this WrestleMania sucked for me, I named a few...

 

[laddclan]

Wrestlemania should have been put in this order:

Rock comes out to Electrify the Crowd. 7-7:15
Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan: 7:15-7:35 : Sheamus retains.
Backstage Segment: 7:35-7:40.
Rhodes vs. Mysterio 7:40-7:55. Rhodes wins.
Backstage with the Rock: 7:55-8:00
Michale Cole vs. Jerry Lawler: 8:00-8:15 Cole defeated, decision NOT reversed.
Video Segment:8:15-8:20
Team Morrison vs. Team Ziggler 8:20-8:35. Morrison and Ziggler actually wrestle. Snooki gets the pin.
Video Package 8:35-8:40
Orton vs. Punk 8:40-9:00. Punk takes out the leg with a "Randy Savage ring bell from the top rope". DQ, and the Viper is on the bench for a period of time.
Video Package: 9:00-9:05
Edge vs Del Rio: 9:05-9:30 Del Rio wins.
Video Package: 9:30-9:35
Undertaker vs. Triple H 9:35-10:10 This match stays the same.
Backstage with the Rock 10:10-10:15
Money in the Bank Tag Team Ladder Match: Santino & Kozlov vs. Gabriel/Slater vs. Kane & Big Show vs. Zack Ryder & Primo vs. Mark Henry & R-Truth vs. Evan Bourne & Kofi Kingston 10:15-10:35 ~ Give the nod to Mark Hernry and R-Truth as they turn heel and win the belts. Hopefully keeps the crowd pumped from the Undertaker match.
Video Package 10:35-10:40
Cena vs. Miz: 10:40-10:55. Miz retains.
Rock Bottom and Celebration 10:55-11:00

The Corre vs. other people match gets pulled in favor of a MitB match. Give the belts to Mark Henry as a thank you, and R-Truth. Turning them both heel in order to better play Henry as the monster, and they can take on the face Kane/Big Show team.

Better order of matches as we build to the highlights of the night, which should be Undertaker but has to be Cena due to the Rock's interference, and that is what people wanted to see.

Personally I would have preferred a few backstage segments with the Rock building between Miz and Cena until the match was changed to a no disqualification match. Then he could have dropped the Miz first, Cena goes to shake his hand, the Rock extends, pulls Cena into a Rock Bottom, with enough time elapsed for the Miz to throw an arm on Cena for the 1-2-3.