What was the point?

[OIL]

So, Triple H gets drafted to RAW, bringing the WWE Title with him. That leaves both champions on RAW, and since Cena won't be moving to SD!, that means he's going to lose the title to Edge at Backlash. Honestly, what was the point in Cena winning the belt at WrestleMania in the first place, for a month long reign? It's stupid. Sure, another win for Cena. But it's making the WHC look weak. It's changing on a constant basis, and there needs to be some consistency. Here's to a very long Edge reign. Anyway, anyone agree with this?

 

[Slyfox696]

You seem to be assuming two things. Cena's not going to Smackdown, and that Cena is going to lose.

I wouldn't be so certain on either of those facts. I could easily see a situation where Cena goes to Smackdown, taking the fight to Edge. Or, I could see Punk cashing in a MITB as well.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

What's to say Punk doesn't take the title of Triple H instead. A bit far fetched I know. Maybe Triple H loses to Randy Orton at Backlash, without getting pinned himself obviously, and Punk then comes down and beats Orton. That sounds slightly more probably to me.


Edit:

Read that statement to yourself one more time, and you'll understand why.

No way Triple H lays down for an unproven worker with no momentum and is not his friend.

My bad.

 

[Slyfox696]

What's to say Punk doesn't take the title of Triple H instead.

Read that statement to yourself one more time, and you'll understand why.

No way Triple H lays down for an unproven worker with no momentum and is not his friend.

 

[OIL]

You seem to be assuming two things. Cena's not going to Smackdown, and that Cena is going to lose.

I wouldn't be so certain on either of those facts. I could easily see a situation where Cena goes to Smackdown, taking the fight to Edge. Or, I could see Punk cashing in a MITB as well.

I assumed Cena would go to SD!, but I don't see them moving him on the supplemental draft. If they were going to move a huge name like Cena, they would have done it on TV. Not saying it won't happen, but it's highly unlikely now. Must say, SD! are lacking a big star with Cena, Batista & HHH all on the same show.

Punk cashing it in? Hmm. Possible, no doubt. I wouldn't put it past Vince to do that, as that's how they got the belts seperated last year off the same show. Well, time will tell. But still, if Cena loses then there was honestly no point of that title reign.

 

[Angleslammer]

to answer the question, there probably was no point to give cena the title other than to please the kiddies and the new pg rating push.

I'm sure they will think of something to get the title off him or HHH, could include punk, orton, or edge, i dont think the match gurantees edge winning the belt as everyone expects that. Much like NWO i'm sure they have something plan for the ppv or the week after to help explain the belt situation.

None the less, there was no, repeat no reason for Cena to lose the belt at NWO only to win it back at mania, (the only point was to have him chasing the belt to put him in the big show/edge match)

and in response to the post about HHH laying down to a mid carder, if he were to lose the belt to orton and and then have punk take the belt after beating the snot out of orton could very easily happen (all though I dont fully see this happening, i still expect either shane or batista turn on him at backlash)

 

[Chrisjeffers]

Punk is on SD now... What I think is going to happen is Edge is going to lose.... Only to have Punk cash it in right after and kick the crap out of Cena.... Both Punk and Cena are very much PG ratings!
Just my thoughts...
And I noticed that alot of you assumed punk was going after HHH... There is no point...
Cena on the other hand.... Possibly...

But this could be the first time the breifcase got cashed in and the person didn't get the Title...
Undisputed Champion?

 

[Shockwave]

If I were a betting man, I'd put everything I own on Punk cashing in the MITB Briefcase and pinning Cena because, as i've said in a previous thread, i think that RAW will become a show for the big stars of the company with SmackDown becoming more of a child aimed show with the lower rated Main Eventers such as Jericho and Jeff Hardy being the top stars for SmackDown. In no way would HHH drop the belt to Punk and even if Orton won the WWE Title at backlash, he wouldn't drop it to Punk either. I agree that if Cena was gonna move, it would have been on RAW last night though many would argue that meaning Edge is unlikely to move which would be a shame as RAW needs more top heels but for the sake of this thread: Cena beats Edge at Backlash, Punk beats Cena straight away afterwards, SmackDown has the World Heavyweight Championship

 

[Ruc_A_Buc]

I'm thinking that Smackdown will gain a champion on the new Superstars program. Anybody from any show can compete on there, so it makes sense that someone from Smackdown would challenge Cena or HHH and bring a title back home to Friday nights.

I'd guess Jericho taking Cena's belt. Then Punk could later challenge Jericho, since Jericho's the one who ended Punk's reign last year (still bothers me that Punk last his belt in a match he wasn't even in).

 

[Mark0820]

Cena won't drop the title, HHH will to Orton at Backlash. Shane will cost him the title leading to a feud there.

 

[slayerofpanda]

Cena won't drop the title, HHH will to Orton at Backlash. Shane will cost him the title leading to a feud there.

Yeah if Its 4 on 2 at the end of backlash and Punk cashes in to run out there and help HHH and Batista then take the newly won title off of Orton everybody is a winner in my book.

 

[Louie Lips]

Okay, so now that both the WWE title and WHC are on Raw this leaves several options:

A) John Cena gets drafted to Smackdown! (which would be stupid to do in the supplemental draft as he is the biggest name in the company and if he was drafted it should have been last night)

B) John Cena loses the title to Edge at Backlash or to CM Punk who cashes in the MITB briefcase really early, which would make this not even month long title reign a joke.

C) Both titles stay on Raw for a while, and have superstars fight on all shows.

D) Unify the WWE TITLE AND WHC!?!?!

What are your thoughts?

 

[smalltownfan]

As I posted in a different thread, I think Cena will move to SmackDown to continue his feud with Edge. I've heard a lot of people say that the SmackDown schedule is easier than the RAW schedule in terms of a more traditional work week and it allows more flexibility which Cena needs right now if he is going to continue to do movies.

 

[Pimpin]

The way I see this. This situation only has 3 solutions.

Solution #1: John Cena loses the World Heavyweight Championship to Edge at Backlash.

Solution #2: CM Punk cashes in MITB on John Cena after the Last Man Standing match, Punk wins that match & brings the World Heavyweight Championship to Smackdown.

Solution #3: CM Punk cashes in MITB on either Randy Orton or Triple H after the 6 man tag team match, Punk wins that match & brings the WWE Championship back to Smackdown where it was in the first place.

 

[Wrestling_No-logicX]

I have no idea what wwe is thinking but what ever idea they have i'm sure it will be good. I would have a qualifying matches for both titles. as for the women title, they need to use that to there own extent, the tag team titles are unified and that just stupid it sucks, What they need to do is combine al 3 brands like they did, and have tag teams that are great and not just a reason to split them, bring back the hardy's cryme time and edge and christian, undertaker and kane big show and mark henry, primo and colon, shelton benjamin and charlie haas, codie roads and debiasi lets see old vs new, these are some really good tagteams and i would love to it,,but then again it's wrestling entertainment and anything can happen

 

[SJM12492]

YEAH! That has to be it, at Backlash, I think Orton's going to win, THEN CM PUNK will cash in. Think about it, it'll be fronteir justice after Randy Orton made CM Punk lose the chance to defend his title. It's so simple!

 

[daniel_4tw]

No it's simple what is going to happen. In the Edge v Cena last man standing match, both will go down, and it will be a double count out with neither answering to the count of 10. So Cena will retain. Punk will run out, and pin Cena, winning the title and bringing to Smackdown.

 

[JTS32]

I really like the Punk cashing in against Orton as payback idea. Orton continues his usual whining the next night on Raw and HHH comes out tells him "its no longer about titles, or glory, or being the man, it's just me ending you." They have a match like Hell in the Cell or Steel Cage something like that to end this chapter of their fued.

 

[Phoenix]

I was thinking about this, this morning, and I thought of a few other theories to add to the mix:
- Cena wins at Backlash, rematch on Raw, Edge wins
- Cena wins at Backlash, somehow gets fired by Vickie (for beating up her husband) or signs a contract with Teddy Long, goes over to Smackdown
- Cena wins, a stipulation comes up on Raw that there can't be two World Champions, Cena vs. Triple H, loser goes Smackdown (Cena obviously)
- Someone screws Cena out, don't forget Big Show is still around and got drafted, meaning a possible feud with Cena if he lets Edge win.
Orrrr
- Triple H wins at Backlash, he gets the hell beaten out of him after the match, meaning the WWE title gets vacated, and after a battle royale or something, somehow Edge wins again

Just a few theories, I think Big Show will somehow be involved with the LMS match, either way, I see Edge returning to Smackdown as WHC or WWE Champion

 

[Steve_G87]

I'd go with CM Punk cashing in after the Last Man Standing match.
I like Punk, but putting him over Orton would not play well as they are trying to build Orton pretty strong, and I personally think it'd make him look weak.
I know it's off-topic, but I'd love to see CM Punk cashing it in after the 6-man tag match after Orton's won the title, but has had a beatdown and is out in the ring. Punk comes down and picks him up, but Orton, instinctively hits an RKO out of nowhere and pins Punk, and there we have our very first MITB cash-in that doesn't win the title. It'd be interesting as it'd be a double-swerve.
Back on topic, I think CM Punk over Edge after the Last Man Standing at Backlash would be best, then Edge can fued with Punk, as he never really seemed to have it last year when CM Punk did him over for the title.

 

[Lithium66]

Would cm punk turn heel if he pins cena and brings WHC to smackdown or just say sorry but i had to do that while i had the chance.
I rather like it to be orton losing it to cm punk as it would be fair.
Does add that little bit extra to tv/ppvs when someone has the briefcase.

 

[Cerebral_King_of_Kings]

I really hope Punk doesn't cash in soon, he did that last time he won and it was just dumb. He needs the case for a while, I would love to see both titles on RAW foe a while and then Teddy and the SMACKDOWN superstars get frustrated and start showing up on RAW. Start a small SMACKDOWN V.S. RAW thing and eventually one of the titles go to SMACKDOWN. I just really don't like that PUNK has the title and the fact that it possible for him to cash it in as early as he did last year. Also, Edge doesn't need to win, i hate Cena but titles need to stay on people for awhile not just change hands ever 2 months back and forth between stars. Isn't Edge like an 8 time champ or something? that's too much too quick.

 

[Cerebral_King_of_Kings]

Here's another idea. Edge is the ultimate opportunists. He could easily figure out a way to steal Punk's case liike he did with Kennedy's (i think?). Then after losing at Backlash he realizes that he doesn't want to face Cena again so he steals it from HHH after Legacy beats him up at some point. IDK, just an idea.

 

[hhhfan14]

Not tryin to be mean, but the title of this forum made me laugh, becuse it is extremely true with alot that wwe has been doin. What are they doing, no one will ever know for sure, JR and King(the pair that were born to be together) not put back together this year on the draft as i had hoped, a bunch of useless draft picks, that really had no impact on the business and actaully were bad for business, such as Christian and Morrison staying on ECW, wtf, Cena staying on Raw with Edge staying on Smackdown, WTF, and then like u said that whole point of having Cena lose the title at NWO and win it again at Mania, WTF, ok now lets go back to some last year times, Punk losing that title match he was never in was messed up, along with how they made Orton look like a big pansy, which in my mind still sticks when i look at him, what is their point they are trying to get across, championships mean nothing, half of thier wrestlers are punks, and they really dont care about storylines, and what is good or bad for the business, as when the Fans ask for something to happen here lately, the opposite usually does, is it a way to punish us for watching their show?? No one will ever know

 

[Omega]

I know its far fetched but lets say with cena and big show now on raw and vickie calling the shots i can see a steel cage match between cena and show with vickie and edge looking on, just so they can see cena get decimated, then after the match lets say cena wins looks like a bloody mess afterwards punk comes in cashes in MITB and after cena kicking out finally hits a gts victory wins world title again, thus making backlash a triple threat match, i was originally thinking triple threat last man standing if thats possible (if it was it would be an epic match) or some other kind of triple threat match with punk retaining. So cena after losing ends up back on raw and the world title back on sd, this could alos lead to some feuds for punk with edge and jericho to build punks legitamacy

i know its far fetched but it would be decent if done correctley