What the hell was the point of Eve's title reign?

CelticCorey

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Seriously, I would like to know. People on this forum at first defended the move saying that she could be squash fodder for Kong. Ok, that's the way I looked at it. Yet week, after week, after fucking week, Kong did not show up and Eve was prancing around with that little plastic butterfly. Made my eyes want to fucking bleed.

Why did they take it off of Natalya? The only thing I can think of was that they originally intended for Kong to debut then but they pushed it all the way back. I really fucking miss Natalya as champion. During her time with the belt, she managed to make the Divas division the most enjoyable for me in a very long time. It was way overude for her and she was putting on good matches. Hell, her and Beth Phoenix even carried Laycool to a good match at TLC.

Then Eve became champ and everything got killed. Seriously she gets no fucking reaction whatsoever. If they were just gonna have her be fodder for Kong, why didn't Kong debut after the Rumble or why didn't Natalya hold on for a few more months? What was the point of Eve winning? Now that I look back, why the hell did Natalya lose the damn thing in the first place?
 
Like you say, In my opinion the reason they gave it to her was because they were gonna debut Awesome Kong and wanted a barbie doll face as champion for her to crush. That didn't happen and now there is a heel (or 2) as champ. So we will see what happens now definitely after that interesting vignette Monday.

Maybe she'll come in face, which I don't agree with. But you never know.
 
possibly because you could hear crickets every time Nattie came out aswell?? and as much as i like Nattie, the storylines had run their course and i think it wasnt the right time for them to pull the trigger on Nattie vs Beth...Kongs Debut being the reason for this, Nattie and Beth are the two Divas who could stand up to Kong and not be completely overshadowed...so they need to keep them as a face for now.

It also gave Eve another chance to get over, i personally liked her reaction to Cole when he interrupted her match and wouldve liked to have seen that develop further, even to have Eve come out at Extreme Rules and help King/JR win the match. At least it wouldve given a Diva something to do and a decent storyline.
 
Maybe it was a way for them to make this wrestlemania stuff work best. maybe eve was the one they figured wouldn't be as mad about trish and snooki being in mania. If natalya or someone else was champ, maybe they would have been more upset about it.

Or maybe they felt like the bellas would be an even better squash opponent for knog than eve.

Or, they could be just burying the divas division like they seem to be doing and see eve and now the bella chick as a way of doing that.
 
I think you could have left it at "What the hell was the point of Eve".

Sure, she's nice to look at but she's got the personality of a waffle iron.

There's just nothing there.

It seems to me that they have no reali direction for the Divas or the championship. When they dropped the Women's Title and kept the Divas title instead, I had a feeling things were going badly.

The sad fact is that the company doesn't care about the divas so why should anyone else?

And letting Cole crap all over them is a disgrace, and in case they were unaware, helps to cheapen their own product.
 
Whoaaaa, turn the main down a tad there champ. I mean it's only the Diva's division after all. They hand out title rains like candy.

I'm not sure why they decided to throw eve in the match that won her the title. It didn't make sense to anyone. We were all thinking the 4th entrant would in fact be Kong but of course, it wasn't. At that time she wasn't even relevant. She was Prancing to the ring and dancing (If that can even be considered dancing) to R-Truth's god awful music. She was nothing. IMO she's not even that attractive for a diva.

But my guess is that they were debating Kong at the time, and knew that they were going to have to get the belt off of Natalya before that happened. They wan't to save a Nat/Kong match for another time because Nat is actually a good in ring performer. So I'm thinking they just needed to get the belt off of her and give it to someone irrelevant for a while; Enter Eve.

Now we saw Kong's first promo air this monday, as well as the title changing to a bella on monday. So I'm thinkin The bella's are going to feud over the belt for a month or so, and have a falling out, meanwhile Kong is just going to be dominating. My guess is that Kong will win the belt at Capitol Punishment in a 4 way match. 3 will team up on her, she'll decimate them all, then take the belt. Setting up feuds for Nat and Beth in the near future. I'm sure Laycool will have something to say here or there, but Laycool seems to be winding down...FINALLY.

So there you have it. Nat lost the belt so she wouldnt have to lose it right off the bat to Kong, and Eve was most likely a transitional champ.
 
You can make the argument that Eve gets almost little to no reaction from the crowd. Well it's hard to get a reaction from people who are at the concession stands or the restrooms.

Ok in all seriousness...I have no idea. The same argument can be made for why Brie Bella now holds the "coveted" pink butterfly. If Awesome Kong (or whatever lame name WWE gives her character) is going to destroy the Bellas...I can't even keep going, I really just don't understand anything with the Diva's Division anymore. If WWE doesn't care about the Divas except as eye candy, why should I?
 
Funny how everyone here seems to know how the WWE works backstage. I mean the way people talk like "Kong's gonna debut and do this" you'd think they were part of the wwe's creative writing.

Anyway, maybe the reason for the reign was because at the time, WWE felt Eve deserved the title? Or maybe the WWE just wanted the title off of Natalya and Eve was the perfect candidate since her first title reign wasn't entirely disastrous. As for the Bellas having it now, I think that's kind of a nice twist on things. Bellas have been working on their ring skills and it shows. I can see them becoming the newer Laycool if Layla and Michelle are splitting up.
 
Whats the point of a divas division at all???

Since the introduction of the Divas title, Women in WWE are worth s*it!

I'm personal glad the Bellas have the title, they get more TV time then any diva in WWE at the moment besides Lay-Cool
 
Whats the point of a divas division at all???

Since the introduction of the Divas title, Women in WWE are worth s*it!

I'm personal glad the Bellas have the title, they get more TV time then any diva in WWE at the moment besides Lay-Cool

exactly my thoughts at first. but honestly having the bellas as champ is a new low. where are beth and nattie and gail, even mcool? the bellas are possible the worst female wrestlers on the roster. kong needs to debut quick so we can bet a real champ in here. and hopefully she will get rid of the butterfly crap.
 
That is what I was thinking, she was added into the match at Rumble, for what reason? Won it, for what reason? Should have just left it on Natalya.. nd now Eve has lost it to a barbie doll.. I jus hope that Kong comes in and squashes her.. and then we can have some interesting divas matches e.g. Kong vs Beth..
 
I think they want to make to want Kong look as strong as possible by destroying two divas for the title. I also think EVE dropping the title was done to create an underlying storyline within the divas locker room. You noticed how they hinted at turmoil between all of the divas. Kong will run roughshot on the divas until the divas realize they must all work together to defeat her.
 
Sorry, I cannot refer to the women of WWE as "Divas". It's absolutely wrong for women who can actually wrestle (Beth Phoenix, Natalya, ...) to be lumped in the same category with women whose only attribute is that they look good (the Bella Twins).

The decline and fall of the women's division went something like this:

1) The 2004 Diva Search begins, because Kevin Dunn and John Lauranaitis think the show needs more sex appeal.

2) The atrocious Diva Dodgeball game at SummerSlam 2004, with the Diva Search girls winning over on the regulars.

3) The WWE brass tries to groom Stacy Keibler to become Women's Champion, showing everyone that sex appeal was more important to them than being able to wrestle. Just one problem: Stacy had absolutely NO interest in learning to wrestle (she never considered WWE anything more than a way of furthering her acting career, which is what she really wanted to do all along) and declined the title offer.

4) Jazz, Gail Kim and Nidia get released so WWE can hire more of the Diva Search girls.

5) Lita & Trish Stratus get hurt and Molly Holly quits after spending her last year as a jobber, leaving Victoria as the only decent woman on the roster. By then, the women's division was so depleted that when Trish went down with a back injury for 4 months, they didn't bother to take the title off of her.

6) Trish Stratus and Lita retire.

There were still some great women in the company (Beth Phoenix, Mickie James, Victoria, Melina, ...) but none of them captivated audiences the way Trish and Lita did (Lay-Cool came close, but people started getting sick of them). WWE kept trying to find "the next Trish" by hiring models and hoping to train them (Kelly Kelly reportedly got hired after John Lauranaitis saw her picture in a Victoria's Secret catalog), but they were either totally untalented or viewed being a "WWE Diva" as a steppingstone to other things.

Hopefully, Kong's hiring will mark the beginning of a new way of doing things. Maybe now they'll give the women's matches some importance instead of using them as pee-break material.
 
i have been wonder that since she got it.

it was like she got WORSE with the title. the same happened with nattie. maybe bella will do better? i don't know. i know everyone hates mccool but i wish they would just give the belt back to her,than have her and layla feud over it. i just feel like they will do more with it and at least there will be a story. the raw divas have nothing going on right now to take any interest in.
 
There was no real point to the title reign. The only thing could of been what everyone else was saying about having her have it to get crushed by Kong.

Now I like Eve, if she would work a little more she could really become something which could be said about a few others. But WWE managment just dosn't care about the divas like they use to. They only focus on LayCool which ran it's coarse and seems that they don't know what to do with them. They seem to start a break up story line between those two and then just stop it cold which they have done that like 5 times now.

As for Eve dropping the title to the Bellas( I say that because you know they are going to do the switch so both of them have the title), but I see two things coming from this. First is that they wanted someone weaker then Eve to just have Kong crush.

Now the idea that no one really said and is really out there and would depend on the writers and creative actaully knowing what they are doing. That is Gail has been having a feud with the Bellas for a little while. So they could pick that back up having Gail win the title which would actaully show her more respect then she has had since coming back. But then after that fued has ran it's coarse which would only be a few weeks have Kong come and having a feud start up between Gail and Kong seeing they already have history. It's way out there but you never really know.

But back to the Eve title reign, it's just like I said WWE high ups just don't care about the women. Which really shows over the last few months with having Cole just yelling over the matches, the whole Eve thing where she never really got a story and then having posiablly the most popular Diva EVER come back for wrestlemania and having her over shadowed by the Umpa Lumpa known as Snooki.

WWE just needs to re do the whole Divas devision. I said it before in over post, bass it around Gail, Kong, Meilina (when she works off ring rust) Beth and Natalya. Then sending Eve, Kelly, Michelle, Layla, Maryce and the others down the FCW to fine tune their skills so the ones that actually want to become their best can become something and the ones that can't or just don't want to make mangers or just fire them.

On another note, have to see if the division gets any worse (if that is possible) with Finley being fired.
 
Honestly my opinion is that now that the Bella's have the Title things might get a little bit more interesting in the divas devision. But what i don't think was a good idea was unifying the titles. Because now all it is on Smackdown is Laycool and we don't really see beth dominate anymore hell we barely see Melina or Maryse wrestle anymore (Divas that actually have talent). I think what they need to do is bring back the WWE womens Championship and WWE writers give a crap about the Divas devision.
 
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING MYSELF SINCE JANUARY!! Eve has improved a lot and she is somewhat talented. But come on, the best that they could do was Eve? Why not have a respectful match between Nattie and Beth? But they have Eve take the belt? My guess is that Kong will go after every Diva and then come across the likes of Beth and Nattie and then win the divas title. Then after a long time, Nattie wins it back, hopefully she won't lose to someone like the Bella Twins. Eve's title reign was just something to fill the time with until Kong debuts
 
What is the point in any Diva Title reign.

WWE really do not give a toss anymore which is a shame considering you have talented women like Gail Kim, Beth Phoenix, Melina(to some extent) and Natalya.

The Bellas, Eve and the rest of the ones only there for thier looks need to be released and lets re-focus on an actual womens division.
 
I think it was more to help the Bellas. I know people on the internetz aren't big fans, but during the Superstars run, the Bellas got some pretty good face response to their matches and by the end of NXT, Nikki was getting some good heat. Oh, and the crowd did kinda react to Nikki telling them to screw off on Raw. Not bad considering most people just view them as Bella 1 and Bella 2. Look at LayCool, they should be among the top heels reaction wise, but when is the last time the crowd even stood up for them?


I don't think Eve is totally bad, but she just seems to confiscate having no natural 'oomph' with a bunch of flashy movez. She is suppose to be the babyface of the divas, but she is just as uninteresting to watch as Nattie, Beth and Gail. Did anyone ever feel for her when she was being beat up by anyone? Did anyone feel any excitement (err..) when she won a match?


And on a side note, I think people expect too much out of the divas. They aren't the only group of people on the roster that get consistently 'anti-responses,' little variation in their characters/gimmicks (minus the Bellas), and get short matches.
 
Maybe they did want Eve to have the title so she could lose it in a squash match to Kong to debut her as a monster heel. But with all the good hype Kong is getting, they probably want her to be face so they had to change their plans and give the title to a heel so kong can take the title from a heel in a squash match and turn her face.

Just a theory.
 

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