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What do you want? And WM32 Main Event

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Moan moan fucking moan. Smarky fans are never satisfied.

WWE are accused of relying on Cena, bringing back Rock, Taker, Triple H etc instead of building new stars but when they try and build Roman Reigns as a star the smarky fans shit all over it. What the hell do you want?

Why do smarky fans think they know best? Remember their ridiculous and embarrassing conspiracy theories about WWE holding Daniel Bryan back from returning as it may effect Roman Reigns push? Absolute bullshit and Bryans speech left them with egg on their face yet again! These were the same fans complaining about WWE forcing CM Punk to work injured….again, what the hell do you want?!

As for Roman Reigns, I fear the only way they can save him from a Mania onslaught is to put The Rock in his corner and make Stone Cold Steve Austin the guest referee who raises his arm at the end.
 
Moan moan fucking moan. Smarky fans are never satisfied.

WWE are accused of relying on Cena, bringing back Rock, Taker, Triple H etc instead of building new stars but when they try and build Roman Reigns as a star the smarky fans shit all over it. What the hell do you want?

Why do smarky fans think they know best? Remember their ridiculous and embarrassing conspiracy theories about WWE holding Daniel Bryan back from returning as it may effect Roman Reigns push? Absolute bullshit and Bryans speech left them with egg on their face yet again! These were the same fans complaining about WWE forcing CM Punk to work injured….again, what the hell do you want?!

As for Roman Reigns, I fear the only way they can save him from a Mania onslaught is to put The Rock in his corner and make Stone Cold Steve Austin the guest referee who raises his arm at the end.

I don't usually post, but I'll take a bite at this.

Yes they are trying to build new stars. The problem is, Roman is not liked by the majority of fans, smarky or not - when arenas (which I'd like to say has more casual then 'smarky' fans in attendance) is booing the hell out of Roman - who is supposed to be the TOP babyface, there is a problem.

Roman has issues in an of himself, his moveset is too repetitive, his mic skills aren't great at all, he doesn't know how to play his character because he always flops between stupid shit. I'll give you a couple examples. He ALWAYS does that stupid smirk of his in the most inappropriate times - it's like he doesn't have a story sense for acting. Another; I may be alone on this but back at the RR when he through Rusev out he acted a bit like a heel there, and again when he hit AJ styles with a samoan drop he did again and this time with the hand going across the neck which is a more heelish thing to do.

To further that point above thinking about it, the RAW after RR when he lost the title, he pulls out a new move. Why not do it while your the CHAMP - There is sense to be made here, but Roman just doesn't have common sense.

The problem isn't just the person, it's also the booking. He is booked to win majority of the time, never takes a clean loss and when he does lose its from interference. They try to make him look "strong" at literally every chance they can get.

Case-in-point tonight: Lesnar kicked out of a finisher. Roman kicked out of a finisher, and this was the 2nd one used on him I believe, Ambrose lost to the first finisher he got hit with, from reigns who just took multiple chair shots to immediately no sell get up and spear to win.

This will mark the SECOND year in a row Roman will be going into the MAIN EVENT OF WRESTLEMANIA while getting boo'd out of the building. HIS THE TOP BABYFACE APPARENTLY! That's bad, BAD decision making. Him beating Triple H will NOT make those Boo's become cheers, he will literally get eaten alive on the RAW after wrestlemania.

To comment on your Rock & Stone cold thing, let me remind you Rock came out to him last year at RR and that did not help the boo's at all. The same thing will happen here, and I suspect it will be even worse. I hope they keep them both away from the match.

They could of had this HHH VS Roman match without the title and without the main event and it would of done miracles for his popularity going forward, but now we are going to see Roman become a 3X World Champ in the span of 6 months.

Worst part for me, and this is just my opinion but the HHH VS Roman fued ended at RR in my eyes and also according to their storyline. HHH got his retribution for Roman laying him out, and Roman just took it and they never spoke about from that night onwards - The fued was ended, and it had a good ending point for them to refocus Reigns onto something else IMO.

Just another personal opinion for me, but Roman makes a good *supporting* actor, not the main actor and that's why I cannot see him as main event material.

EDIT: I'll just chuck in, but I always thought Roman winning the IC or UC title would of done wonders for him before going up to the WWEWHC title, but instead they skipped that option altogether.
 
Mynd Zero - Spot on!

There isn't just one problem with Reigns. While I do agree that he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, the truth is that Reigns is difficult to like.

As a fan, and not as a smark, I have trouble connecting with his character. I like Reigns. I want him to succeed. I really do. But everything feels forced.

I want the opportunity for him to come through the TV in a sincere manner. By being himself and letting me see the real Roman. Right now, this isn't happening due to his difficulty at accepting the role he has been given and those damn stifling scripts that he is forced to recite on a weekly basis. I feel like he comes across as the kid who bullied the geeky kids at school because he felt that he was 'better' than them.

As Mynd Zero rightfully said, the Rumble felt like the end of his fued with Hunter because it was, in fact, Hunter who was looking for retribution for the assault on RAW.

I, like many would love to see him as a heel purely because it may make him more comfortable on screen and help him develop a personality that I can relate to.
 
Moan moan fucking moan. Smarky fans are never satisfied.

WWE are accused of relying on Cena, bringing back Rock, Taker, Triple H etc instead of building new stars but when they try and build Roman Reigns as a star the smarky fans shit all over it. What the hell do you want?

Why do smarky fans think they know best? Remember their ridiculous and embarrassing conspiracy theories about WWE holding Daniel Bryan back from returning as it may effect Roman Reigns push? Absolute bullshit and Bryans speech left them with egg on their face yet again! These were the same fans complaining about WWE forcing CM Punk to work injured….again, what the hell do you want?!

As for Roman Reigns, I fear the only way they can save him from a Mania onslaught is to put The Rock in his corner and make Stone Cold Steve Austin the guest referee who raises his arm at the end.

Haha! You think that Stone Cold and The Rock can save Romania Reigns from being booed at the end of this year's Mania? You, Sir, are the delusional one.

Getting onto the crux of the matter, I'll keep it short and sweet. It's not that the WWE fans don't want to see new stars being built. What they do take issue with is that the WWE doesn't listen to them. There are natural fan favourites in their ranks that don't need to be forced down the throats of the audience. Dean Ambrose would have been a much better choice, given that the WWE fans cheer for her regardless of what the WWE do with him.

The WWE have did a great job of building new stars over the last few years and are relying less on the old guard. But it doesn't take away from the fact that the WWE have a voice and they deserve to be heard.
 
I just wanted better booking of Roman. I get why Vince wants to push him so much but he has been horribly booked since December of 2014 and it really isn't taking. I think they need to do a hard reset of his character by turning him heel and aligning him with the Authority for a while but they've also missed their chance to do that on the grandest stage of them all. He should be fighting Brock Lesnar for the WWE Title (he also should never have won it for a second time) and his desperation to finally get a world title run and beat the unbeatable Brock Lesnar could have caused him to accept Triple H's offer of help from last year to win the title.
 
What do I want? WHAT DO I WANT? I want to stop being told that I'm not allowed to have an opinion. Contrary to popular belief, the fans know what they want and it's not Roman Reigns. Deal with it and accept the fact that it's NOT WORKING. Shit on a stick.
 
What do I want? I want a wrestler who got themselves over in the main event of WrestleMania instead of a wrestler who was forced down our throats by WWE because he has the look and is related to The Rock.

Fans have to connect with the character. How do you connect with Roman Reigns' character? He has a great look and he has been handed numerous accomplishments on a silver platter. He was basically born into the business. How do you connect with Reigns? They have tried to make him an underdog when he has literally everything going for him. That is not going to work and it hasn't.
 
As for Roman Reigns, I fear the only way they can save him from a Mania onslaught is to put The Rock in his corner and make Stone Cold Steve Austin the guest referee who raises his arm at the end.

Because it worked the first time they tried that at Royal Rumble 2015.

If a wrestler needs two part-time legends to keep him from getting booed, he doesn't deserve to main event WrestleMania.
 
What do I want? WHAT DO I WANT? I want to stop being told that I'm not allowed to have an opinion. Contrary to popular belief, the fans know what they want and it's not Roman Reigns. Deal with it and accept the fact that it's NOT WORKING. Shit on a stick.
If WWE still wants him as the top babyface, I am ok with you. It can be still done in two ways: One being his heel turn into a badass guy and other being that let him accomplish midcard titles for a year or so. This will surely make crowd take interest in him and make him their hero which atlast is the ultinate goal of Vince.

:devil:
 
If WWE still wants him as the top babyface, I am ok with you. It can be still done in two ways: One being his heel turn into a badass guy and other being that let him accomplish midcard titles for a year or so. This will surely make crowd take interest in him and make him their hero which atlast is the ultinate goal of Vince.

:devil:

Unless he can start connecting with the crowd on an emotional level, it won't matter what they do with him. It goes deeper than just turning him at this point.
 
Unless he can start connecting with the crowd on an emotional level, it won't matter what they do with him. It goes deeper than just turning him at this point.

Oh he has connected on an emotional level, hatred is an emotion :lmao:


OYDK is otherwise spot-on.

What I (and the majority of the audience, it appears) want is for the WWE to listen to its nightly feedback and realize this isn't working, through no real fault of Reigns himself.


You fucked this up, WWE. Accept it, and make changes. The guy who looks like a greek god isn't being accepted as a plucky underdog. Imagine that.
 
Oh he has connected on an emotional level, hatred is an emotion :lmao:


OYDK is otherwise spot-on.

What I (and the majority of the audience, it appears) want is for the WWE to listen to its nightly feedback and realize this isn't working, through no real fault of Reigns himself.


You fucked this up, WWE. Accept it, and make changes. The guy who looks like a greek god isn't being accepted as a plucky underdog. Imagine that.

Ding, ding.

This has been the biggest problem with him all along. He is NOT an underdog and they keep trying to make us feel like he is. They are giving him the EXACT same storyline as Daniel Bryan, and the fans are shitting all over it. Why? Because it is not believable.

It makes no sense at all for me to think of this guy as an underdog. He has everything. If you has just played him as a monster, hard worker. Someone who was unstoppable and going after the top of the company. It would have been believable and worked a ton better.

That is why Cena is so over. He was believable as EARNING everything. And then, when Lesnar came around, you could write a somewhat believable underdog persona.

This underdog, who has literally NEVER lost a one-on-one match clean, it is just not believable and makes everyone roll their eyes.

Which, in turn, makes everyone boo the shit out of your TOP FACE. It is not working, and the E has nobody to blame for themselves.

A buddy of mine asked something yesterday that was interesting ... what if Bullet Club came in an interfered last night on Roman Reigns behalf ... Doc, Finn, Anderson, AJ, and even the Young Bucks ... all of them ... and Reigns was the one who brought them in to battle the authority ... would THAT get him over with the smarks?

Nope ... it would destroy the Bullet Club and piss the entire wrestling world off.

That is how much Reigns can't get over.
 

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