What Do You Expect Triple H To Do?

[PlayTheGame]

I know alot of people want HHH to lose to Orton at Mania, and thats just fine. I agree, that would probably be best if he lost. However, what do you really expect him to do after Mania? I mean, his whole charater is based off of being the best, and winning titles. Like it or now (and like him or not), thats his character. So, I'm not sure how everyone expects him to lose to Orton AND slowly fade away from the title picture and put others over from now on. I mean, the guy still has it, and he's still way over. He loves the busniess, and he'll probably be with it for some time still in an in-ring fashion, so do you honestly expect him to just start putting everyone else over? I don't. I see him continuing to win the big titles late in his career, a la Flair. And I really dont mind it either, because thats just his character, and he's damn good at his character.

 

[Queers and Steers]

i agree to an degree but i mean he had an 7 month reign from backlash to survivor series he doesnt need to be the champion for that long maybe just a couple months here or there. but i agree that that is his character because hes nothing without the belt hes not like Taker or Michaels who or great without the belt ( in my opinion much better than with it) so he almost has no choice but to be in the title hunt because his character has zero substance to it besides getting belts!

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

I respect the fact that you like HHH, but no one's character should be based around holding titles and rarely putting people over. "Bogarting" the title as HHH has done for the 5 or so years has not only been detrimental to WWE, but to his career as well.

HHH's refusal to stay out of the main-event while he has been active has resulted in what I will refer to as "HHH-Jarrett" paradox. Fans of HHH argue that the reason they keep on giving him back the title is because of how "damn good" he is. But, while it may seem this way, it is far from the truth. HHH isn't that "damn good"; it's just that the rest of the wrestlers that comprise WWE's roster are that "damn weak," precisely because HHH has refused to cooperate with said wrestlers in building them into future main-eventers. During this decade, HHH has really only put over two people: Batista and John Cena. And, if he could have it his way, something tells me he would not have put over Cena at WM 22.

Now, as for HHH, you make an interesting observation. I definitely agree with you that HHH's character is centered around him amassing title reigns. But, what are we left with without these title reigns? Pretty much nothing else. HHH's focus on titles has, ultimately, also ruined his career as it stands right now, as he is not "above the belt" like the greats have been before him. Without being in the title picture, no one is really interested in this man (they may be interested at him cracking jokes at foreigners and overweight people, but that's about it).

 

[The Todd]

I don't see him dropping the belt to Orton at Mania to be honest, especially not cleanly. So he will still be in the title hunt straight away anyway. At mania, the fans are wanting him to be the one who stops Orton in his tracks, and saves the WWE. If he loses, it will be a screwjob from Vince or Steph.

In the long run, HHH will keep winning titles, as will Edge, before a showdown in a few years time. Someone like Orton or Jeff Hardy will be champion, and Cena and HHH will be tied on 16 world titles each. They will have a match to decide who gets the chance to break Flair's record, or be placed in a triple threat to see who does it, with HHH inevitably winning it. he will then get another two or three reigns to ensure Edge never passes his record, before stopping at the top to become more hands on in running the company.

 

[Queers and Steers]

flair actually has 21 world titles the wwe is gay for only choosing to use 16 for storyline purposes. but man i hope cena dont gt that much and i honestly see edge is probally 12 or 13 time champion

 

[Rated R SuperFan]

I expect Triple H to win at Mania because he's the bosses son in law that's why he is where he is in his career . Triple H did what so many Diva's are accused of doing he slept his way to the top period and he gave Vince and Linda a couple more grand kids so Vince keeps him at or near the top . Vince likes Triple H becasue he's married to Steph. Vince Likes Cena becasue he thinks he has this generations Hogan in Cena and the fact of the matter is Triple H and Cena have always been force feed to the WWE fans they always have been and always will be ....

 

[C.M.]

I expect Triple H to win at Mania because he's the bosses son in law that's why he is where he is in his career

No, HHH probably is going to win at Wrestlemania because I like said in another a thread a week ago, it the current storyline he's in with Orton, he's going to get revenge on Orton for taking out the McMahon family

. Triple H did what so many Diva's are accused of doing he slept his way to the top period and he gave Vince and Linda a couple more grand kids so Vince keeps him at or near the top

that's why he was champion 7 times before he married Steph

Vince likes Triple H becasue he's married to Steph. Vince Likes Cena becasue he thinks he has this generations Hogan in Cena and the fact of the matter is Triple H and Cena have always been force feed to the WWE fans they always have been and always will be ....

Vince likes HHH & Cena because they draw & Cena helps WWE sell million of dollars in merchandise

 

["Cool Guy" Jensen]

Triple H's character is based on being the best (far from the truth) and winning titles, huh? His character had to be built on that because he had to be in the company for about 4 years before winning his first World Championship. Before that, he would hold the European Championship and between World Titles, he would hold the Intercontinental Championship and Tag Team Championships. Since his first World Championship win in 1999, he's won the title 12 other times and only 4 reigns that lasted 3 months or more. So the real question is: Is Triple H's career mostly based on winning titles or having long, dominatant reigns? It depends on what you people think, would you rather see Triple H continue to win title after title or would rather Triple H with the same title reign for months and months and months? I would think that Triple H, at his age would really want to think that his time as a wrestler is numbered and it's time to start putting some of the younger stars over, but nope.

How can you say that he is nothing without the championship or being in the championship scene? WWE has done a very horrible job of letting us know how he even is without being in the title scene. He's been in the title scene all of 2009 so far, all of 2008, was in DX in early 2007 before getting injured and when he returned, he won the title 1.5 months later without even being in the title scene, in 2006 he started the year in a fued with Big Show and then went to the title scene for months before re-uniting with HBK and ending the year feuding with Rated RKO. In 2005, he was champion, lost it to Batista had 2 rematches and returned in a feud with Ric Flair and it goes on for years prior... so it doesn't make sense to say that he's nothing without the title because we haven't gotten much of a chance of seeing it.

If you really think about though... Batista is the ONLY person that Triple H really put over. Batista defeated Triple H in 3 pay-per-views in a row and as of today, Triple H is still yet to pin Batista, but that can all change in the near future. Cena did defeat Triple H at Wrestlemania 22, but don't forget that HHH got his first one-on-one pin on Cena at Night of Champions. Triple H has pinned pretty much everyone else he's fueded with. So, I expect for Triple H to retain against Randy Orton at Wrestlemania and then they'll continue their feud that they had last year before Orton's injury and hopefully, Orton will become champion in the near future.

 

[Mr. First Name Basis]

What if they did a total swerve, and had Orton having an affair with Stephanie. I think this is the first time the WWE has ever used their marriage publically, in a story line. Have Stephanie turn on HHH at WM, as well as Shane and Vince.

 

[fallensaviour]

What if they did a total swerve, and had Orton having an affair with Stephanie. I think this is the first time the WWE has ever used their marriage publically, in a story line. Have Stephanie turn on HHH at WM, as well as Shane and Vince.

actually thats my problem with this angle. they HAVE mentioned it in a storyline and that storyline ended with hhh and steph getting divorced. that was the last time it was mentioned in a storyline (as best i recall). now hhh is feuding with orton because he hurt his wife...isnt that throwing the kayfab out the window?

 

[TheOneBigWill]

What did Hulk Hogan do after he stepped away from the Championship scene? What did Ric Flair do? What about Steve Austin, The Rock, or Shawn Michaels? They all found ways to stay in relevant storylines, without holding Championships. It's what made them truly great.

If Triple H. can't find a storyline, or a way to remain relevant without being a Champion, then he isn't great. Same with Edge.

There is two ways to look at this. From a business perspective, and from a fan's perspective.

Business: While most internet smarks and marks find every way possible to bitch and moan over Triple H. being the Champion, there are literally millions of people out there who love him, and love him as a Champion. Furthermore, he's the face right now. And in every situation, it's normally best to have one face Champion and one heel Champion.

Triple H. gets adored by the crowd, and you can't tell me he doesn't, because even as a heel he got huge ovations. In other words, people pay to see him, and don't mind seeing him in the Main Event. (ie. Champion) So why screw up a good thing?

He's at what now, 12-13 reigns? Which means he's one step closer to Ric Flair's mark. At this moment in time, more people than most want him to now pass that mark, and pass it sooner rather than later. My personal guess is it'll happen (him passing it) at WrestleMania, either next year, or a couple years from now. It's just good business.

Fan: As a fan, it gets old seeing the same individual as Champion, unless that individual can keep you entertained. Hulk Hogan managed to do it. John Cena somehow did it for half a year, before it went south. Yet people bitch and moan instantly when Triple H. or now Edge win a title, and they don't even give them an opportunity to attempt another reign. (even if it's only a month or two after their last one)

Hey, Cena won his Heavyweight titles almost back-to-back. He lost then regaining his first title within 3 weeks. Lost and regained his second title within 3 months. So it's as bad as some make it out to be.

However, personally, if he wasn't in the title picture.. I'd let him turn heel, because as a heel in 2000 he stayed out of the title picture for most of the mid-portion, straight through til the following year, without being heavy in the title scene. He did it once, he can do it again.

Hell, bring back D-X, or give him another faction to attempt carrying. Anything is optional, it's all in what people want to happen.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

that's why he was champion 7 times before he married Steph

When did they start dating though? This argument would work if it could be proven that Stephanie didn't push HHH to creative before they married. However, Test's push in WWE only lasted during the duration of his relationship with Stephanie. Thus, there is evidence (albeit indirect) that shows that the overwhelming majority of HHH's title reigns are due to influence rather than merit.

Don't get me wrong, I thought HHH was at the top of his game from 1999 to 2001. However, every thing since then has been downhill, and, furthermore, there has always been another wrestler that is more deserving of his spot.

Vince likes HHH & Cena because they draw & Cena helps WWE sell million of dollars in merchandise

HHH's drawing ability is questionable at best. WWE has always had someone else besides HHH at the top to make sure that it doesn't totally discourage its fans from watching. And, without the brand split, HHH's alleged drawing power would have already been uncovered as the canard that it truly is.

 

[Tuck]

I like the idea of Orton having an affair with Stephanie - but that would have been back in the Attitude Era. I highly doubt WWE would have that happen in the PG Era. Although - I wish it would happen. I would be excited to watch RAW again.

As for HHH he'll never leave the title picture - but I do think he will lose to Orton. Legacy is going to become something bigger than what we have been seeing. Right now I think they look weak and after HHH is defeated with the help from Priceless - you are going to see them take the tag titles from Miz and Morrison and start running stuff for awhile.

HHH will stay on RAW and Cena will go to smackdown, then when Batista comes back - HHH and him Batista will fued it out into SummerSlam. Then he'll be back in the title hunt come SS and the Rumble. It's just a viscious cycle.

 

[Australian Punk]

I personally think he will retain at wrestlemania, get drafted to RAW then orton will continue fueding with him until maybe judgement day like last year. Then maybe he will fued with jericho for the title for a month or two and if he keeps it to summerslam (which would be unlikely) the time batista is scheduled to return face him and win then lose it to him at the next PPV.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

C'mon. Do you REALLY think HHH is going to lose at WrestleMania when he's begrudgingly lost at the last few he's participated in? There would be 3 things going on if that was the case:

1) He'd be LOSING a title...something he hates doing obviously, unless it means he can win it again the next night to get closer to beating Flair.

2) He'd be putting Orton over. And really...who wants to put over a guy that could be the top of the WWE? That's HHH's job.

3) He'd be losing AGAIN at WrestleMania

4) He just won the title. If you've forgotten, HHH has the immunity card when it comes to playing Hot Potato Title Reigns. Edge, Jericho, Batista, and Hardy have won and lost their titles in short time spans, and Cena didn't really have his for THAT long (although it was the second longest). HHH was champion from Backlash until Survivor Series. You think he's going to lose this title from No Way Out at the very next ppv that comes after that?

The only way he'd agree to it, I think, is if they make him lose it by some method that puts HHH over and NOT Orton (like Rhodes and DiBiase hit HHH over the head with a mac truck and HHH still kicks out at the 3-count but the ref was paid to fast count and ignore it and right afterwards HHH gives them all a fingerpoke of doom and all 4 of them, ref included, are injured immediately for the next year)...and/or if they agree to let him win the title back as fast as possible - if not the next night on Raw, then at Backlash, to give him championship #14.


I really, really, really, really, really, (can't type or stress it enough) want Orton to simply beat HHH clean at WrestleMania, win his title, and look dominant in doing so. I don't care if the two feud for an extra ppv until Backlash, but I don't want HHH as champion. He deserves to lose. Its about time he does what's better for the business that he claims to love so much, and that means giving Orton a massive jumpstart push towards being a top talent, not beating him to simply prove some imaginary point that "HHH is God" or something.

 

[Phoenix]

I think that with how aggressive Triple H is being in terms of revenge, I think they could set it up to a point where Triple H himself takes it too far and Randy has a moment of thought and goes "No, I need to save this company", a likelyhood of it happening, probably not.

The only decent run that Triple H had outside of a title picture scene is his run with DX and he relied on Shawn Michaels for that! When he dropped out the title picture in last 2000/early 2001, he was having great feuds with Angle, Austin and Taker, even to a point where he was IC and Tag Champion again, his return in 2002 pushed him back and hasn't been down since, that is the point where you know he's truly dating Stephanie because he's always down our throats in the title scene since 2001!

Cena and Edge have been the same, but the problem is Cena, hasn't been in a feud outside the title picture (since winning it) aside from that god awful feud with JBL and then being thrown against Batista when we only 3 weeks to prepare for it, then he gets injured.

In short, injuries prevent decent non-title related feuds from working when your top guys use to be champs. I think Edge will slowly go into a feud section after the story of him and Vickie is done, at least Edge actually went from the title picture after his first and second win with his feud with Foley and teaming up with Orton for Rated-RKO.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

If HBK and Undertaker can have feuds that doesn't revolve around the title so can HHH. Assuming he loses at WM to Orton, I can see him having a feud with Chris Jericho. I don't think Y2J is going to be in the title hunt anytime soon and he is the 2nd best heel on RAW. Run with that for about four or five months and see where that goes and then he can move on to JBL or Orton again for the title. He's been in feuds without the title before and he can do it again.

 

[ulimate123]

After loosing to Orton after WM XXV I think HHH will be drafted back to SD! and then continue his feud with Edge and Cena will have a feud with Orton back at RAW. But I think the feud between Edge and HHH won't last for long and end at Backlash with HHH (AKA Backstage politic master) winning and having a feud with Christian after a Heel turn (And destroying his career).

 

[Scott Free]

What if they did a total swerve, and had Orton having an affair with Stephanie. I think this is the first time the WWE has ever used their marriage publically, in a story line. Have Stephanie turn on HHH at WM, as well as Shane and Vince.

Actually, I fully expect Shane to turn on HHH and Steph, watch out if they work him in as a special Ref at WM. Orton should win the title, but in no way he's going to be put over clean or even decently. In the end, it will be all about HHH and the McMahons surprisingly enough.

 

[timmy872]

To be honest, I think that there will be a good chance Triple H will win at Wrestlemania, because he either hasn't won or competed at the event for 5 years now.
The last person he beat was Booker T at Wrestlemania 19.
Randy Orton won at Mania last year, he is 2 wins and 3 losses at the moment. He had a three year dry spell, his only victories were with Flair and Batista against Rock 'n Sock connection. Then of course last year. He has also had a VERY good year this year, mind you Triple H's has been equally as good. But draw your own conclusions..

 

[XxHardyFan4LyfxX]

I think tht HHH will be in the title picture till the day he retires knowing him and how he does busines he will prob win the title in his last match to become the 200th time world champ lol with the rate he is going atm he will prob finish his career with at least 25 world tite wins.

 

[Mr. First Name Basis]

actually thats my problem with this angle. they HAVE mentioned it in a storyline and that storyline ended with hhh and steph getting divorced. that was the last time it was mentioned in a storyline (as best i recall). now hhh is feuding with orton because he hurt his wife...isnt that throwing the kayfab out the window?

Yea, your right. How did they end that storyline again? It escapes me.