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Well.... minus the ignore Bray incident in STL....

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He beats Cena clean at ER. Great. Stupid, but great.

And then what? He is doomed via "make everyone heel 2012."

I mean absolutely zigglered in the next year.

I blame the IWC, and anyone with a decent wrestling mind for this. Honestly, hating on Cena brought this stalemate on. Bray will not go over as a face, there are no viable heels outside of Orton or Batista, who should not job to Bray.

So, who does he feud with after Cena? I cant name one person. He seems dead to me already.
 
its hilarious how nobody has an answer, it really is. cheer on guys, cheer on.

another guy cena put over with zero future
 
Hey dude, i just made a account here, and i seen that you had this post.

I don't understand if your just being a troll here or not.

But Bray Wyatt is getting cheered cause people either like him or dislike cena.
Bray is not going to be a face i can assure you that.

If you don't realize that heels get cheered now then maybe you been asleep for the past 4 years.

Bray is called the false prophet his gimmick is to deceive the wwe universe which is what wwe is saying he is doing, in no way can i see this as a possible face turn.

Also please note that bray isn't getting much of a reaction and its mostly in the script that the crowd is behind him, the crowd is still more over with cena than bray in my opinion.
 
Outside of your last sentence I'm not sure what you want or even what you're trying to say so I'm just going to address that.

I don't see Bray/Cena being over after ER, it didn't end with Bray losing clean at WM so it doesn't end just because the other side gets a victory. But in any case after Cena they do have options for Bray. He can go after the WWEHC title, DB and Bray have plenty of history and Bray does have a clean victory over DB at their last match. If Bray goes over Cena that would make him a instant contender, so that there's that.

There's the Shield again. Their feud was short but they put on some truly epic matches. If the reports are true about Batista taking time off after ER having another stable for the Shield to feud with would be useful. Lots of potential heat if they show the Wyatts being allied with HHH too.

And I'm sure they can think of plenty other things for him to do as well, they do have a entire locker room of talented guys available after all.
 
Outside of your last sentence I'm not sure what you want or even what you're trying to say so I'm just going to address that.

I don't see Bray/Cena being over after ER, it didn't end with Bray losing clean at WM so it doesn't end just because the other side gets a victory. But in any case after Cena they do have options for Bray. He can go after the WWEHC title, DB and Bray have plenty of history and Bray does have a clean victory over DB at their last match. If Bray goes over Cena that would make him a instant contender, so that there's that.

There's the Shield again. Their feud was short but they put on some truly epic matches. If the reports are true about Batista taking time off after ER having another stable for the Shield to feud with would be useful. Lots of potential heat if they show the Wyatts being allied with HHH too.

And I'm sure they can think of plenty other things for him to do as well, they do have a entire locker room of talented guys available after all.


What he said ^

Bray Wyatt could face Sheamus Or even Big Show or Mark Henry.

Sheamus would make sense they could have a brawl type match of whos the best hitter in the wwe.

Big Show would be a big challenge for Bray wyatt but it would make some sense big show has nothing at the moment.

Mark Henry has nothing even more than the other 2 i named and this would be just something for mark henry to do for maybe a month and then go back off tv like he is now, Cause im thinking henry is about to retire
 
i cant do anything but laugh at the logistics of brays fans. sheamus? big show? henry?

if him vs cena is over as a feud, its hilarious to throw him to mid carders like everyone insists. doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of being put over by cena in the long run? (it does.)

anyone who is a bray fan is delirious in the truest sense of the word, its even more hilarious when people question why he is "dead to me" already.

think as a non bray fan, and realize he will be facing r truth on a RAW pre show within the next 6 months, because there is literally nobody else. DB is literally the only other face, and hes already been there and done that. shield isnt an option either.
 
the most over rated super star in the last decade easily, he thrives off of being awkward for the sake of being awkward in promos (thats never worked in wrestling), has never had even a 3 star match (with supreme talent), and is surrounded by absolute goons.

all of this is above the fact he has no future after cena puts him over. i DARE someone to explain why hes over other than the fact that hes in a feud with john cena.

im almost to ashamed to call bray wyatt (the broke ass) miz version 2.0.
 
he thrives off of being awkward for the sake of being awkward in promos (thats never worked in wrestling)
His promos can easily be described as esoteric, cryptic, enigmatic, abstruse, etc. But not awkward.
has never had even a 3 star match (with supreme talent)
Without even mentioning the Cena match from Mania(which was about 3.5 stars) or the six man encounters with The Sheild(the first of which actually flirted with the 4.5 range but isn't a singles match); if you rate the 4.25 star encounter he had with Bryan at the Rumble as sub-3 stars, its your rating criteria that needs to be seriously questioned.
and is surrounded by absolute goons.
Being "absolute goons" means they're playing their roles correctly.

But it should be pointed out that when given the opportunity to shine, Harper has shown flashes of greatness and should have a nice future in the company(which shouldn't surprise anyone who was familiar with his indy work, he's a very good worker for such a large man).

i DARE someone to explain why hes over other than the fact that hes in a feud with john cena.

Here's a few obvious reasons:

- Because he created and completely owns one of the best and most original characters that the WWE has presented in years.

- Because he shows no early signs of letting us believe the character will become stale any time soon.

- Because his mic work is exceptional.

- Because his entrance and music are both great(huge factors in a young star being over).

- Because he's wrestled the top stars in the company on the biggest stages so far this year, while delivering in the ring and having such a presence that he doesn't seem out of place and hasn't been outshined.

Just being the guy facing Cena has nothing to do with it. Doing such a good job of holding up his side of a feud against Cena does. Let's remember that feuding with Cena never got Miz or Del Rio anywhere as over as Wyatt is.
 
Another Wyatt hater. OK, but at least be fair judging his current work. Awkward promos never worked in wrestling? Warrior is smiling somewhere. Jake Roberts too. Wyatt has never had a 3 match star? Please, c'mon...........

Who does he feud with after Cena? Whoever he wants to mind-play with. While the mystique of the character is hot, would always be material for a good feud with almost everyone. Isn't necessary to rush things and make him world champion or so.
 
Bray can feud with Bryan for the title, The Shield (individually and together) and Cesaro just to name a few. I would love to see any one of those.

Bray should defeat Cena at ER then challenge Bryan for the title on a mission to destroy our "heroes". Plus Bray has a clean victory over Bryan.

The Wyatt Family has had some amazing matches with The Shield and I think it could continue to work well if booked right. Bray feuding with any one of the members of Shield would be great too.

If Cesaro can get built up enough I could really get into a feud between the two. Heyman alone would sell that match to the moon and both Cesaro and Bray are solid in the ring.

Not to mention Bray possibly getting his hands on Heyman leading up to Brock coming back to avenge him against Bray. Bray would obviously have to be face (or tweener) for that to happen which I can see happening.

Bray can definitely morph into an anti-authority tweener in the future which opens the door for a lot of other stuff like Triple H, Orton, Batista, and maybe Kane feuds.

Bray Wyatt is one of the best things going on in Wrestling right now with still a lot of potential. Sky's the limit really.

Cena can feud with Bo Dallas or something after this. Not really a Cena fan but I would find it hilarious seeing as how Bo is obviously a parody of Cena.
 
I see what this guy is saying, but I doubt he's going to be on any pre-show in six months. WWE is just not going to let that happen. The singing is getting annoying, that's kind of awkward. It feels like he simply wasn't supposed to sing it after the crowd did it for him on the Raw after mania. It was supposed to happen organically for him every couple of nights. I also see what you're saying with his direction after Cena? Where does he go? The only place imo he can go is facing The Shield again.
 
I understand that this guy says bray will run out of options, but ain't that the same for every wrestler thats why we have returning new superstars every now and then for feuds and stuff.

Bray's Gimmick doesn't in any way fit john cena so if he can't feud with cena why can't he feud with anyone else?

why can't he turn face and feud with orton or batista?

Theres endless choices for bray wyatt, but its not my choice or yours its the mcmahon's and the script writers choices to throw him in the direction they want, i for one don't like bray wyatt and i agree that he will most likely fail.

But at the same time i thought the same thing about daniel bryan last year at this time, so you never know whats going to happen. 1 month ago i though bad news barrett was over, and now i'm already ready for him to main event.

that's how the wwe universe changes their minds and i wouldn't have it any other way ;)
 
Believing that Wyatt is dead in the water with zero hoping going forwards seems like a bit narrow minded and exposes an individual with a personal distaste for the character or a complete lack of imagination or creative thinking.

There is a reason they’ve moved Wyatt along on a quicker pace than the other crop projected future standouts. Those in the know trust in his abilities and see, and plan for, a long prosperous future. His work with Cena has elevated him into a marque position, one of which will allow him to grow going forward and help others he is works with.

Just off the top of my head a few future programs for Wyatt:

- Obviously they could rekindle the feud between the Family and the Shield. Bray and his boys could begin doing the bidding of Triple H but not for money, fame or protection but simply for the pleasure of bringing pain and dismay to their opponents.

-Following a program with the Shield they could turn on the Authority claiming their previous work was just a reason to let them get closer to the true hypocrisy.

-They could chase Daniel Bryan for the strap. Raise the stakes and we have an awesome renewed war.

-Wyatt Family vs. Kane and the Ascension. Seems we never had any real wrap up between the two. The rebirth of the demon along with two minions of his own would be exciting.

-Wyatt vs. Taker. If the Dead Man has another short run in him this would be a serious money maker. A final casket match at Survivor Series could easily headline the event.

-Wyatt vs. Brock Lesnar. The mic work between Heyman and Bray alone would make this an epic program. With the Family by his side Wyatt is a believable threat to the monster and it would pit two of the biggest acts in the company against one another. Brock might be the 1 in 21-1 but there is no 1 like Bray Wyatt.

-“Rise of the Son(s).” This one is a bit outside the box as typical booking would suggest having Rowan and Harper break away to find success but Bray is a different type of leader. He is not intimidated by the good fortunes of those around him. Instead he embraces it and drives his followers upward. Bray could spend time using his skill set to help elevate his Family. This may cause him to briefly step out of the spot light for a moment but not so far away he couldn’t jump right back in.
 
Bray Wyatt boring and stale? Hello, troll/Cena fan. His promos have been amazing. They feel fresh and they work with his character. Bray Wyatt is creepy as hell. He has nowhere to go but down after this? Is Cena the ONLY main-eventer/established star in the entire WWE? Not the last time I checked.
 
i cant do anything but laugh at the logistics of brays fans. sheamus? big show? henry?

if him vs cena is over as a feud, its hilarious to throw him to mid carders like everyone insists. doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of being put over by cena in the long run? (it does.)

anyone who is a bray fan is delirious in the truest sense of the word, its even more hilarious when people question why he is "dead to me" already.

think as a non bray fan, and realize he will be facing r truth on a RAW pre show within the next 6 months, because there is literally nobody else. DB is literally the only other face, and hes already been there and done that. shield isnt an option either.
Right. Except for Beating Cena led to prominent runs for Edge, Punk, Orton, DB and many others. You really have no clue how this goes, do ya?
 
He beats Cena clean at ER. Great. Stupid, but great.

And then what? He is doomed via "make everyone heel 2012."

I mean absolutely zigglered in the next year.

I blame the IWC, and anyone with a decent wrestling mind for this. Honestly, hating on Cena brought this stalemate on. Bray will not go over as a face, there are no viable heels outside of Orton or Batista, who should not job to Bray.

So, who does he feud with after Cena? I cant name one person. He seems dead to me already.

I don't think he'll turn face. I think he'll stay heel. There's plenty of options for him.

I'd just prefer him to have some mid card feuds instead of being in the main event right away.

He could win the US title off Ambrose, to further the feud with The Shield/Evolution and a future feud between the two.

He could feud with Sheamus, they had a great match Wednesday. He could feud with Big E.
 
I don't care for Bray, I don't care for his style. I don't like the gimmick.
I have no idea why no one has noticed this....but he stole Luo Albanos look.
Every time he comes out all I can think about is the captain.
http://media.al.com/scenesource/photo/captain-lou-albano-deathjpeg-64ff6960c25b4a8d_medium.jpeg

I don't see him doing anything really breathtaking after Cena stuff. When he beats the No. 1, there is nothing else to do since he is NOT ready for a title.

But I don't think is that original, a mix of mankind and Luo Albano. The real stars are his helpers who are gonna shine over the years. Especially Harper. They are the new Kane and Undertaker replacements. Build them up for a couple of year, then let them lose on the mid card and keep moving up if over.
 

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