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Week 1: Rob -versus- hiphopa-pokemon

Mr. TM

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Women in Wrestling: Beauty or Brawn? Should women be eye candy or great in-ring performers?

hiphopa-pokemon is the home debater, he gets to choose which side of the debate he is on first, but he has 24 hours.

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Ladies and Gentlemen,readers,judges,my esteemed opponents,I sit before my laptop today to explain to you why I feel women wrestler'sshould focus on being great in ring performers instead of being eye candy,and I urge you to agree with me,based on the following criteria.

Wrestling is about in ring performance,plain and simple.You can say that charisma,mic skills,the ability to cut a promo are important,and they are,but
not the be all and end all.And in order to become successful,you must be a
good in ring performer.The legends of the business such as Steve Austin,The rock and hulk hogan are all great performers,in ring and out.So I ask you this,why shouldn't women wrestler's be.

Women wrestlers are WRESTLERS,it's in the names.If you think of the most recognisable names in american wrestling female wrestling.Trish Stratus.Lita.
Mickie James.All good in ring performers.In TNA,their knockout division is one of the best in america.Well certainly better than the wwe's divas.And from that division,who are the two most notable names you can think of.Gail Kim.Awesome Kong.

Gail Kim was the first ever TNA womens champion,and Kong was the longest reigning.They are both excellent in ring talents.Now,and I'm not sure about your different tastes,but I wouldn't consider either of them gorgeous,well not Kong at least.Especially not compared to women like Maryse and Kelly kelly.
But in a wretling match.You know when two opponents starts actually wrestling,Kong and Kim would totally destroy them in every apect of wrestling.

If you look at Japan,they couldn't give a damn at how you look.Do you think
GAEA Japan ask you to wear a bikini before they decide to hire you.No.Some of the best Joshi wrestlers,such as Manami Toyota,Aja Kong,Dynamite Kansai and Mayumi Ozaki. You cannot say they got where they are now because of beauty,but because they are incredible in ring competitors.Aja Kong's uraken could take out a man,because she's an absolute beast.Manami Toyota is considered by many to be the best female wrestler ever.

The only women in wrestling that need beauty over in ring prowess are valets,.The women who accompany men to the ring.Who take off their jackets.And you know why?Because they need relatively no talent whatsoever.All they need is to stand there,cheer,and look pretty.Any good looking woman can do it.SoCal val in TNA did this,she just sat there.Nowadays,valets,along with managers,are gone.And I do't really see the point in them,except for generating interest in a boring wrestler.Valets don't need any talent,just a pretty face.They're the Batista of this world,but with boobs intead of biceps.

In conclusion,we watch wrestling to be entertained by in ring competition,by wrestlers.We want to see 2 or more wrestlers,male or female,squaring off in the ring.IF you wanted to just see gorgeous women,which a lot of men do,you can pick up a playboy.Look at some pornography.Because I don't know about everyone else,but I watch wrestling for WRESTLING.

It's in the name.
 
This will be my first debate judging of the day for you The Hiphopapotamus and Rob. Hopefully it will be my easiest.

Clarity of debate- 1 point
Hip, I must say that this is an easy point to give to you. However, in the future, I would ask that you format your posts better. Is there a spacing issue on your computer? Still, point to Hip

Punctuality- 1 point
You were of course the only one to post in here Hip, so you obviously win this point. rob seems to have missed the entire debate. Point to Hip

Informative- 1 point
Hip, you gave us a great wealth of information, from Japan and TNA, with the contrast some would say of them and WWE. Good job. Point to Hip

Emotionality- 1 point
Hip, the emotion started going later on in the post,a nd I liked that, you should keep it up, point to Hip.

Persuasion- 1 point
Hip, at the end of this, I was agreeing with what you were saying. You persuaded me. Point to you.

Clarity of debate- 1 point
Hip

Punctuality- 1 point
Hip

Informative- 1 point
Hip

Emotionality- 1 point
Hip

Persuasion- 1 point
Hip

TM rates this 5 points Hip to 0 points Rob.
 
Hiphopapotamus, as TM said, definitely work on your post's format (this could easily lose you points on clarity and persuasion in the future). Overall though, you made a solid showing. By default, you get all 5 points.

tdigle's Score
Hiphopapotamus - 5
Rob - 0
 
By default since Rob no showed, Hiphop gets all 5 points. Like TM and Tdigle mentioned, try work on your posts format. Notably the spacing since next time it will cost you a point most likely.

Hiphop- 5 points
Rob- 0 points
 

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