WCWF's 2016

God is only a gigantic cunt if you take the belief (which milenko did) that god is the cause of everything. Its too extreme a view and why organised religion is a problem. Using the logic of god is responsible for everything would mean god gave someone cancer or that he told a priest to molest a child (which I've literally seen a priest refuse to apologise for because he was only doing god's plan and god wouldnt have given him them thoughts if he didnt want him to do it)
I don't know why Frank N Stein thinks so. But I do the same as well. How could God TELL a priest to molest a child? I believe that everything is in the hands of Almighty and everything happens for a good reason.

There's God in everyone. Some find it but some don't. Those who find ain't like this dumb priest who's just making an excuse.
 
The sun will blast. It is a damn star. They all blast. It will not blast for another kabillion years but it will boom. Now say it does not boom, then why is god blowing up other stars? Extreme version of emptying the trash?

The Earth is gigantic. Does not mean he cannot make it bigger. He can. I mean he apparently is off making a ton of other crap that seemingly exist for no reason. The point of Jupiter is?
Lol. So God actually made you and you know more than God that what to do and what not to do? Who in the blue sky are you to judge God? Got offended? Let's spin it. Who in the blue sky am I to judge god? Do you know that there's only one earth? Are you sure that there's no other life? Some questions can't be answered by science. Try harder.

Give me some examples of god trumping science.
Okay. This is going to be fun. Tell me if fire can continue without any type of input given to it? Or if Fire can continue when water is run through it?

I mean the bible got the value of pi wrong (it is not just 3). So not off to a good start.
I would've told if I knew anything about Bible.

If god is a reasonable being, then he will understand why I do not believe in him. If he laughs at me then god might be sort of a dick.
Wow. Continue not believing in him. It's like you wana say that it's either your way or Highway? I will prefer highway still. If God would've been a dick, you wouldn't have disrespected him like this. That says a lot.
 
Okay. This is going to be fun. Tell me if fire can continue without any type of input given to it? Or if Fire can continue when water is run through it?

I don't understand what point you're trying to make, he asked you for an example of God trumping science. The example you've given can be explained purely scientifically.
 
I don't know why Frank N Stein thinks so. But I do the same as well. How could God TELL a priest to molest a child? I believe that everything is in the hands of Almighty and everything happens for a good reason.

There's God in everyone. Some find it but some don't. Those who find ain't like this dumb priest who's just making an excuse.

Have you never heard of people claiming to have spoken to by God?
 
Even if I did, I have a feeling you wouldn't believe it anyway. Are you honestly trying to tell me that it's purely God's will that both starts and extinguishes fire?
I guess that you misunderstood me. I didn't intend to say what you got. I just asked a question. Can fire continue without giving any input to it? Another is Can fire continue even if water is run through it?

Answer these two questions scientifically. I know the answer but still.
 
I guess that you misunderstood me. I didn't intend to say what you got. I just asked a question. Can fire continue without giving any input to it? Another is Can fire continue even if water is run through it?

Answer these two questions scientifically. I know the answer but still.

Define input. If you mean:

Can fire continue to burn without any outside interference?

Then the answer is yes and no, it depends where and how the fire has started. What's the source, is there plenty of 'fuel' to go through? Is the fire in an enclosed space?

In terms of water running through it, how much water are we talking about? If it's a slight trickle and the flame is substantial in size then a small amount of water isn't going to do enough. Fire also relies on oxygen to continue to burn, which is why in cases of small fires you can throw something on top of it to extinguish it, you are essentially 'suffocating' it.
 
Define input. If you mean:

Can fire continue to burn without any outside interference?

Then the answer is yes and no, it depends where and how the fire has started. What's the source, is there plenty of 'fuel' to go through? Is the fire in an enclosed space?

In terms of water running through it, how much water are we talking about? If it's a slight trickle and the flame is substantial in size then a small amount of water isn't going to do enough. Fire also relies on oxygen to continue to burn, which is why in cases of small fires you can throw something on top of it to extinguish it, you are essentially 'suffocating' it.
There's no fuel. I repeat. THERE'S NO FUEL. NO OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE. NO INPUT.

Water ain't of small amount. Suppose it's a stream. Will the fire continue in both cases?
If yes, then till how much time? Fire is also small, not tiny but significant.

Another question: Can you touch fire without getting hurt?
 
]There's no fuel. I repeat. THERE'S NO FUEL. NO OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE. NO INPUT. [/B]

Water ain't of small amount. Suppose it's a stream. Will the fire continue in both cases?
If yes, then till how much time? Fire is also small, not tiny but significant.

Another question: Can you touch fire without getting hurt?

Maybe if you'd specified in the first place I'd have answered the exact question you wanted answering.

I'm not answering anymore questions without you specifying. You can't ask me a vague question and then act like I'm at fault for not having the ability to read your mind.
 
Maybe if you'd specified in the first place I'd have answered the exact question you wanted answering.

I'm not answering anymore questions without you specifying. You can't ask me a vague question and then act like I'm at fault for not having the ability to read your mind.
I'm sorry for no specification. But when did I say that you're at fault? Okay then don't answer. As you wish. I was respectfully asking you a question. Already apologized for no specifications. But don't refer it to as vague when you don't know everything about it.

Already specified now what I meant.
 
I'm sorry for no specification. But when did I say that you're at fault? Okay then don't answer. As you wish. I was respectfully asking you a question. Already apologized for no specifications. But don't refer it to as vague when you don't know everything about it.

Already specified now what I meant.

Of course I didn't, you didn't explain yourself fully. You can't ask what a appears to be a simple question and then seemingly attempt to flip it around on me.

Just... UGH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fI7zm7RXHs
 
Lol. So God actually made you and you know more than God that what to do and what not to do? Who in the blue sky are you to judge God? Got offended? Let's spin it. Who in the blue sky am I to judge god? Do you know that there's only one earth? Are you sure that there's no other life? Some questions can't be answered by science. Try harder.

So god "made" the universe yet he cannot make a planet bigger? Odd rules there. I do not believe we are the only life (considering the amount of other galaxies, there is a good chance that we are not it). I'm not sure why god would make the galaxies a shit ton away from each other. Seems rather odd. I think it is reasonable to ask god why he keeps making pointless planets.

Also science is trying to find life on other planets. They are trying to find another inhabitable planet. They have found the building blocks of life in space but so far no actual life itself.

Okay. This is going to be fun. Tell me if fire can continue without any type of input given to it? Or if Fire can continue when water is run through it?

Someone else tried to answer this but I am also confused about what you're asking here. Maybe a cultural difference. I'll explain what I see the question as. You are asking can a fire exist without external causes. Answer is no. Fire cannot exist without oxygen. Some fires can actually get worse with water (I believe electrical fires do) but the answer is usually water puts out fire.

I would've told if I knew anything about Bible.

What?

Wow. Continue not believing in him. It's like you wana say that it's either your way or Highway? I will prefer highway still. If God would've been a dick, you wouldn't have disrespected him like this. That says a lot.

I skew towards factual evidence. There is no factual evidence for god's existence. Looking at this logically, I cannot say he exists because there is no proof. God would be a dick if he gets mad at someone for not believing in him despite there being no logical reason to do so. Your god doesn't sound like a nice guy.
 
I have heard. So?

So clearly this priest that i refer to believed god spoke to him and told him its fine to molest children

Honestly mate your rambling like a mad man trying to defend your beliefs, your welcome to believe in god, i personally believe there are multiple higher beings i dont believe they influence individuals actions like Milenko and WCWF have said they do, to blindly think God is the reason something happens is a dangerous view it absolves blame and so on (which is why organised religion is shit, they want you to blindly follow without questioning because god)
 
So god "made" the universe yet he cannot make a planet bigger? Odd rules there. I do not believe we are the only life (considering the amount of other galaxies, there is a good chance that we are not it). I'm not sure why god would make the galaxies a shit ton away from each other. Seems rather odd. I think it is reasonable to ask god why he keeps making pointless planets.
You didn't reply about who in the blue sky are you to question someone who created you? Don't imply that you know better than the creator.

Also science is trying to find life on other planets. They are trying to find another inhabitable planet. They have found the building blocks of life in space but so far no actual life itself.
No problem in trying.


Someone else tried to answer this but I am also confused about what you're asking here. Maybe a cultural difference. I'll explain what I see the question as. You are asking can a fire exist without external causes. Answer is no. Fire cannot exist without oxygen. Some fires can actually get worse with water (I believe electrical fires do) but the answer is usually water puts out fire.
Can a small fire continue endlessly even if a stream of water is run through it?


Read it again.

I skew towards factual evidence. There is no factual evidence for god's existence. Looking at this logically, I cannot say he exists because there is no proof. God would be a dick if he gets mad at someone for not believing in him despite there being no logical reason to do so. Your god doesn't sound like a nice guy.
There are bunch of factual evidences on this earth. I will give one after you answer my aforementioned question.

Also, I didn't say that he would be mad at you. I said that he would laugh at you. Get the difference? Of course, you still can judge someone whom you don't know. Continue. If something is good, it will remain good irrespective of your opinion about it. Why? Because Opinions can vary but facts can't.
 
So clearly this priest that i refer to believed god spoke to him and told him its fine to molest children

Honestly mate your rambling like a mad man trying to defend your beliefs, your welcome to believe in god, i personally believe there are multiple higher beings i dont believe they influence individuals actions like Milenko and WCWF have said they do, to blindly think God is the reason something happens is a dangerous view it absolves blame and so on (which is why organised religion is shit, they want you to blindly follow without questioning because god)
That priest isn't deserving of being a priest. Because he's making lame excuses in name of God.

I'm mad. But I ain't rambling. Just trying to discuss with full respect. Not even defending my beliefs. The thing about religion is that it has become more of a business nowadays thus completely destroying the ultimate motive of a particular religion.
 
You didn't reply about who in the blue sky are you to question someone who created you? Don't imply that you know better than the creator.

If I had the power to design beings, I wouldn't have made us have to poop. I mean what kind of design is that? I'm fucking allowed to question god because otherwise god would be a ya know, dictator. I mean it's not like he murdered the entire earth except for 8 or so people right?...Oh shit, he did. Maybe your god is a dictator.

Before you say well we poop to get rid of food! That would assume god has to follow logic and for some reason can make Pluto just because and not be able to make a substitute for pooping.

No problem in trying.

You asked "are you sure there is no other life?" Then said "there are questions that science can't answer."

Well science is trying to answer that damn question.

Can a small fire continue endlessly even if a stream of water is run through it?

Endlessly? No. If there is no external source continuously providing fuel to the fire (such as oil pouring in) then water will eventually put the fire out.

Read it again.

Me "The bible says pi is just 3." That is wrong. This was in response to you saying religion has trumped science.

Your response had nothing to do with my statement.

There are bunch of factual evidences on this earth. I will give one after you answer my aforementioned question.

They have found things made during the time Noah's Ark was supposed to be happening. Things that would have been destroyed if the earth had been flooded.

Also, I didn't say that he would be mad at you. I said that he would laugh at you. Get the difference? Of course, you still can judge someone whom you don't know. Continue. If something is good, it will remain good irrespective of your opinion about it. Why? Because Opinions can vary but facts can't.

So god would laugh at me for not believing in something I have no reason to believe in? Still a dick. That would be like me saying 1+1=3, providing no evidence, then laughing at you once it turns out that 1+1 does equal 3. Shit thing for me to do.

Facts? Don't bring facts into a for religion argument. It doesn't work out well. People used to believe that god put a barrier around the earth (if we tried to fly out, we would hit the sky). They said god told them this. Or they didn't understand science nor understand what any of this shit is and made something up to try to explain it.
 
That priest isn't deserving of being a priest. Because he's making lame excuses in name of God.

You may say its a lame excuse but yet so many priests have molested children and instead of being shamed they were moved and the acts covered up. Murder, rape, theft and more has all been carried out in the name of God they arent lame excuses they are either a problem with the religious system or god. Either way its not really something that you should one to be involved with
 
You may say its a lame excuse but yet so many priests have molested children and instead of being shamed they were moved and the acts covered up. Murder, rape, theft and more has all been carried out in the name of God they arent lame excuses they are either a problem with the religious system or god. Either way its not really something that you should one to be involved with
It's the same with everything. There are numerous people out there who will continue taking unfair advantage of their position or power. It's the same for those priests. Becoming a priest doesn't mean that he won't do something bad. Which is ridiculously wrong as well as unfortunate.
 
If I had the power to design beings, I wouldn't have made us have to poop. I mean what kind of design is that? I'm fucking allowed to question god because otherwise god would be a ya know, dictator. I mean it's not like he murdered the entire earth except for 8 or so people right?...Oh shit, he did. Maybe your god is a dictator.

Before you say well we poop to get rid of food! That would assume god has to follow logic and for some reason can make Pluto just because and not be able to make a substitute for pooping.
Continue questioning and judging just because you can. But no God is a dictator, right? Also, he's not MY God. He's the God. Yours as well. Your opinion doesn't change the facts.

You asked "are you sure there is no other life?" Then said "there are questions that science can't answer."

Well science is trying to answer that damn question.
Wow. What did I say wrong here? I just said that there's no problem in trying. But continue making a mountain out of a molehill just because you CAN.

Endlessly? No. If there is no external source continuously providing fuel to the fire (such as oil pouring in) then water will eventually put the fire out.
What if I tell you that fire can continue endlessly and won't be put out even if a stream of water is run through it?

Me "The bible says pi is just 3." That is wrong. This was in response to you saying religion has trumped science.

Your response had nothing to do with my statement.
Again a mountain out of a molehill. My response had everything to do with your statement. I know nothing about Bible so can't discuss about it. Unlike you, I don't discuss about something i don't know anything about and i don't even try to show that I know everything like you.

They have found things made during the time Noah's Ark was supposed to be happening. Things that would have been destroyed if the earth had been flooded.
Again something I'm unaware of.

So god would laugh at me for not believing in something I have no reason to believe in? Still a dick. That would be like me saying 1+1=3, providing no evidence, then laughing at you once it turns out that 1+1 does equal 3. Shit thing for me to do.
Nopes, God would laugh at how you naive are. Not for believing God or something. That's your prerogative. It's just that you behave as if you know everything and that God ain't existent. Keep calling him whatever you want to. Because that describes you, not him.

Facts? Don't bring facts into a for religion argument. It doesn't work out well. People used to believe that god put a barrier around the earth (if we tried to fly out, we would hit the sky). They said god told them this. Or they didn't understand science nor understand what any of this shit is and made something up to try to explain it.
You wana talk about people? Lol. People even believed that Earth was a square. Does that make them true? Taking name of God for justifying your actions is damn easy as it doesn't have repercussions very soon. Like God won't end you just because you think so "good" about him. Some people believe that all Muslims are terrorists. I can't and don't believe such pathetic things.
 
ヒュー G. レックション;5670161 said:
I'd say hurry up and make your fucking point.

Patience is good.

Well, there's a temple nearby my state. Where fire continues endlessly. Scientists have researched and hot nothing. Some hundred years ago, a stream of water was passed through it and fire still continued. It's Jwalamukhi Temple. Jwala is a hindi word meaning fire. I have visited it dozen times and have actually touched it. That's it. There's no answer by science.
 

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