Undertaker: Just Retire Already

[Henry Hill]

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Taker killed the Dudleys, Booker T's, Ortons, Heidenrichs credibility, KILLED DDP's career, killed all of Henry's credibiliy, and so on.. I am sure I am missing a hundred more.

Wha?????????!!! How is Orton not credible? he's the WWE champion! and the Dudleys? they got over in a company that barely has tag team wrestling and are (to some, not me personally) one of the greatest tag teams ever, and both members of that team have stated that they prefer doing the tag team thing than the singles thing. Booker T is a LEGEND and has always been regarded with good ring work, great mic work, and the ability to do well with anyone so i fail to see how he's not credible. I won't even bother with heidenreich or mark henry for reasons that should be obvious. And its been made clear that DDP's attitude killed his career, not the Undertaker pointing out his being completely inefficient, and having to script everything down the when the wear down holds should end.

 

[gd]

How isn't he one dimensional? Look at his feuds. Heel calls out Taker. Taker responds with bells and spooky lights. Taker doesn't come out. Heel shits himself. The heel attacks Taker. The announcers "I've never seen The UNDAKATAH like this before". First match, Taker either squashes the guy or the guy cheats 100 times to beat him. Last match in the feud, Taker wins... booo.

You could say pretty much the same thing about every heel/face feud ever.

So a guy with super powers is more believable than Hornswoggle beating Mark Henry? oooook.

Yep, a leprachaun is just as believable as a guys with superpowers. Even if they aren't beilievable at all, who cares? It's pro wrestling, it is about being entertaining, not realistic.

Wrestling is fake, but you have a hard time believing that Hornswoggle could beat Mark Henry? Yet you totally eat up Taker's corny super powers?

I don't get where you are going with this. I think Taker flicking the lights on and off is more believable that a leprachaun beating a 500 pound man in a wrestling match, but it doesn't really matter.

I only remember Koslov beating him once clean. Taker jobbing clean is rare.

Pretty sure it was twice, could be wrong. But, Taker isn't a jobber, so why should he job? He's a face main eventer, therefore, he shouldn't lose cleanly often. That's how it works.

Read my first post. Taker sucks.

I fail to see your reasoning, even if Taker did suck, which he doesn't, how would that change that Lesnar beat him in a Cell match?

It's called "sarcasm". Watch Survivor Series 2005. He beats them all up. He's done this at least a dozen times.

Actually, hyperbole is the term you are looking for. And considering Taker is a 7 foot monster, I don't think its crazy that he can beat up a lot of smaller guys.

That wasn't a clean victory. As always, Taker had to have a dumb ending to help protect himself because he is afraid of losing once.

Big Show knocked him the fuck out, that was clean. Taker certainly isn't afraid of losing either, he's lost plenty of matches.

So? He sucks. He is no Rock, Austin, or Hogan. He is below them. He doesn't deserve special treatment.

He may not be on the level of 3 of the biggest stars in wrestling history, but that doesn't mean he sucks. He is one of the top 5 stars in the WWE at the moment, he does deserve some special treatment.

Cause of his fake undefeated streak. Give the samething to Cena and it would be the same shit.

Why was he given the undefeated streak then? Maybe because he is way over with the fans and is a huge star.

The Dudleys. Weren't they fired after their fued with Taker? Boy, did they sure benefit from feuding with this old man.

The Dudleys career is alive and well.

Didn't FBI (all three) job to Taker and came out looking like idiots...

I don't know who FBI were, so I can only assume that they were worthless.

The following week, they jobbed to Booker T because they were "hurt" (yes, they were even wearing casts). That's how ridiculous Taker really is.

Buidling up Undertaker at the expense of a few jobbers street cred is perfectly reasonable.

Where is proof that he draws?

Thousands of cheering fans?

Taker killed the Dudleys,

They're doing fine.

Booker T's,

I thought that was HHH?

Ortons,

He's the WWE Champ

Heidenrichs,

He sucked.

KILLED DDP's career,

Refer to the other thread, and you'll find that this is false.

killed all of Henry's credibiliy,

Just because he beat him in a Casket Match?

and so on.. I am sure I am missing a hundred more.

Another hyperbole. Just because he beats people, that doesn't mean he "kills" their career. If they were really worth two shits, they'd be able to keep their job.

 

[wolvdog316]

I get so tired of hearing the same bullshit spewed by idiotic fans. This guy killed this guys career, or this guy RUINED this guys career. That's pure bullshit. Everybody hates on HHH cause he supposedly buried so many careers. Yet nobody seems to remember when he kept jobbing to Duke the Dumpster Droese, or The Godwins. Undertaker, gets the same rep, he kills careers. Really? He spent his best years jobbing to Austin on nightly basis. The rare win he did pick up at a PPV, it was with Vince's and Shanes help, AND Austin won it back the next night on Raw. He took a backseat to Austin cause it was the smart thing to do.

I can't even believe this thread is even happening. The man just put on a clinic at WM25 with Shawn, and people want him to retire? Nobody on the roster right now has had a better match than those two this year. This isn't a Flair issue, where Flair was limited to chops and flopping around . Taker can still go, and out perform everybody in WWE and TNA.

And another overused bullshit statement. "He didn't want to do the job". Haven't we already figured this out? No top star in the history of this business has ever had a moment where they didn't have a "selfish" act. Austin didn't want to job to Brock or Hall. HHH didn't want to job to Booker T or Jericho. Hogan didn't want to job to anybody. Savage didn't want to job to Rude. Sting, he hardly ever jobs in TNA.

And just because somebody loses, especially to the Taker, doesn't mean their career is over. Flair is a top 5 talent, and he jobbed probably more than anybody. Ted DiBiase was probably one of the most over heels in the history of this business. And he NEVER won against top guys. If you are good enough, if your skills are great, you can survive anything.

Look, I loved DDP in WCW. Fantastic story. But he never clicked with the WWE crowd. Thats not Takers fault. Do we really need to put the blame on somebody else? Never self responsibility?

 

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

Yeah Proof, you should really shut up because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Dudleys stuck around for ages after that fued with Taker, and they left because they became complacent, the same reason they left ECW.

Booker T was never buried by the Undertaker. If you're going to say that, then that means that Batista buried him as well, and guess what, during both fueds Booker T was the WHC, so how pray tell can you bury someone who's the champion?

And DDP also hung around for ages after his fued with Taker. He did the whole self help guru gimmick with Christain util eventually he had to quit wrestling becuase of his nagging injuries, just like Austin, but if you want to blame Taker you go right ahead.

You want to whinge that Taker appears and beats up 20 guys at once? I've seen Austin do the same thing loads of times. How many times have we been watching the Royal Rumble and someone comes in who hits his finisher on everyone in the ring and is the only one left standing? Because i can name lots of occassions. Kane is someone else that used to come out and beat down scores of people but you're not moaning about him are you?

And you also keep saying that the undead gimmick is lamer than Hornswoggle, because you don't believe in super powers etc. Except for when he does a run in, he doesn't fuckin use them during the matches does he for fuck's sake? It's the spectacle before and after the matches where that happens, and that's when it's ok to stop paying attention to what's going on, because the majority of it is stupid. Are we really to believe that HBK was working in a kitchen for the last 4 months? Or that Rumjin Singh is Khali's brother?

And people keep complaining that he's off TV all the time. That's because he's in his 40's having wrestled for nearly 300 nights a year, for the better part of 20 years, in some of the most violent and risky matches that WWE have ever produced. Earlier this year, he was not only in the Royal Rumble for ages, but he fueded with Big Show, fought in the EC until he was the last combatant eliminated and put on his best WM match as well, all while needing to have his hip surgically replaced. If you can have that sort of surgery and be back taking bumps within a week, i'd like to see you prove it.

He didn't pick the gimmick, so why should he retire? He had his best WM match this year, and the quality of his matches since 2004 have gradually gotten better, so why should he retire? He's happy to job to whoever Vince wishes and make them look good in the ring while doing it, so why should he retire? He's got the admiartion and respect of the whole locker room, so why should he retire? Fans will pay to see him, so why should he retire?


I hope that you're saying this just because you want Punk as champion, people will understand that, because if those are your real reasons why Taker should retire, then you should retire from this forum.

 

[Davey McBoy]

The Undertaker fucking built all of this. His blood and sweat built the business you ignorant critics enjoy today. He leads that locker room, he's been the constant foundation of the company through thick and thin and has kept it afloat during trying and uncertain times before helping to attract new audiences with an ever evolving gimmick. In fact gimmick doesn't even do him justice. He's not just some wrestler on a roster, he IS wrestling.

Yeah I know, you've watched 3 raws, heard the word "work" a few times and now you think you have a fucking Wrestling degree with which to educate us on your oh-so intelligent opinions on who should be fired/pushed/hired. Not this time, you are in over your head, go back to Seinfeld and seek solace in the fact that the idea of Taker retiring because of the internet would have carried as much weight as a fart in space.

Also - The British Bulldog was scared of him and FUCKING COLLAPSED EYE SOCKET.

 

[MARYSEPHOENIX]

You are wrong on this one. Undertaker has been and will be a huge part of WWE. Unlike other people on the roster, he is dedicated to making WWE better. He gives everything he has. Undertaker can stay for as long as he wants, because he is THAT good.

 

[666_The_Game_666]

The Deadman is still one of the most dominant men in the WWE it proves he can still go for a few more years. For being 44 he can do alot i mean his match with HBK at WM25 proves that both of these men are in their mid 40s and can put on a match like that shows they still have more in them Undertaker more than HBK with all the HBK retirement talk. But with Hardy gone Edge injured Taker and Punk will now carry the Smackdown Main Event and who knows maybe Taker will work with the younger guys in the future and get them to ME with him

 

[THE SWAG]

what makes taker good is he is one of the most mature guys on the roster always has been always will be, unlike hbk back in his day, and taker is a company guy, i could see him being a booker down the road, if he still wants to stay in the co.

 

[GOD]

The Undertaker will be a part of the WWE until the day he dies!

If you're begging The Undertaker to retire then you sure in the fuck have NO right watching the WWE!

Hulk Hogan & Andre the Giant might have layed down a foundation for the WWE, but The Undertaker has been the glue that kept the foundation together for the past 2 decades!

You don't deserve to watch the WWE!

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

The Undertaker will be a part of the WWE until the day he dies!

If you're begging The Undertaker to retire then you sure in the fuck have NO right watching the WWE!

Hulk Hogan & Andre the Giant might have layed down a foundation for the WWE, but The Undertaker has been the glue that kept the foundation together for the past 2 decades!

You don't deserve to watch the WWE!

So I guess Taker is going to die in the ring because I don't see that happening.

Undertaker is not the only superstar to have been the glue as HBK can hold that honor too.

I didn't know you were the end all be all when it comes to people watching the WWE. Come to think of it, I do want the Undertaker to retire so I can see him inducted into the Hall of Fame next year. Do you think I deserve to watch the WWE now because I will be watching it tomorrow?

 

[Deus1138]

The Undertaker was a great gimmick from the beginning. One of the great things about the character is how with slight changes over the years, the character has endured. I never did care much for the "American Bad Ass" incarnation of the Undertaker, so I'll just pretend it never happened.

The really GREAT thing about The Undertaker...no...scratch that...the really great thing about MARK is he's always been so reliable. Look back over his career. He's ALWAYS been there for WWE no matter what. Now you can say what you want about Vince and his questionable decisions over the years. But Underta....MARK never got caught up in all of the questionable politics of the professional wrestling. He has ALWAYS been there as a solid, dependable performer who was ALWAYS willing to do whatever was asked of him to put on a good show for the fans. He's never gotten into any trouble. He's never been arrested for after work activities. He's never had a wellness policy violation. He went through a divorce and it didn't end up making headlines on any of the tabloid tv shows. Compare that to a lot of other wrestlers, past and present, who have gone through divorces.

When it gets right down to it, Undertaker is an all around good guy who has always done the right things. He may not be as nimble as he was 20 years ago, but who cares? He's still very damn relevant, very damn entertaining, and very damn needed in WWE right now. You know who needs him the most?? People like Randy Orton. Orton has a lot of potential, perhaps more than anyone else in a long time. But he's done a lot of stupid crap. Orton needs someone like Undertaker to show him the way. Undertaker is an excellent role model for all in the industry.

Undertaker has ALWAYS done the right things. He's been a loyal employee for two decades now. He's never screwed anyone over. He's never done anything questionable. He's never been arrested or suspended. In the wrestling world, the guy is a saint!

 

[GOD]

So I guess Taker is going to die in the ring because I don't see that happening.

Undertaker is not the only superstar to have been the glue as HBK can hold that honor too.

I didn't know you were the end all be all when it comes to people watching the WWE. Come to think of it, I do want the Undertaker to retire so I can see him inducted into the Hall of Fame next year. Do you think I deserve to watch the WWE now because I will be watching it tomorrow?

Did I say The Undertaker is gonna die in the ring??? Do you know how to read ????

HBK can hold part of that honor but The Undertaker has been more important! Taker has been a draw within the first year of his debut in 1990-1991. That's almost 2 Decades.

HBK didn't become a main eventer until around 1994-1996. & he retired for 4 years. All in all that's only around 1 Decade

HUGE difference!

 

[gd]

Did I say The Undertaker is gonna die in the ring??? Do you know how to read ????

HBK can hold part of that honor but The Undertaker has been more important! Taker has been a draw within the first year of his debut in 1990-1991. That's almost 2 Decades.

HBK didn't become a main eventer until around 1994-1996. & he retired for 4 years. All in all that's only around 1 Decade

HUGE difference!

What about the fact that Steve Austin, the Rock, Triple H, HBK, Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart all of whom have main evented more Wrestlemania's than Undertaker, who is tied with Yokozuna. If Undertaker was such a big draw, why hasn't he ever been the top star? Undertaker is a main eventer and has a very unique and interesting gimmick, but he certainly isn't anywhere near the biggest dreaw or most inmportant guy in WWE history.

 

[Deus1138]

So who is the better wrestler? The man who was in the main event of two, three, or four Wrestlemanias?? Or the guy who was a solid performer and put on some of the best matches ever at 20 Wrestlemanias??

There's a lot to be said about consistency, loyalty, and dependability!

Taker may have never headlined a Wrestlemania like the Rock. But where is the Rock now?? Not wrestling. Taker may not have had the cult following like Austin did. But where is he now?? Not wrestling.

Taker has been the WWE's reliable work horse for 2 decades now. How many of you remember when he debuted??? I doubt many of you were even wrestling fans then! Through good times and bad, through the WWF vs WCW wars, Taker was always there for the WWF/E.

 

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

What about the fact that Steve Austin, the Rock, Triple H, HBK, Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart all of whom have main evented more Wrestlemania's than Undertaker, who is tied with Yokozuna. If Undertaker was such a big draw, why hasn't he ever been the top star? Undertaker is a main eventer and has a very unique and interesting gimmick, but he certainly isn't anywhere near the biggest dreaw or most inmportant guy in WWE history.

What's that got to do with what GOD said? He didn't say 'big draw', or 'biggest draw'. He said that from the beginning of his WWE career, Undertaker has been popular. He became the champion in less than a year and they had him go over a veteran at WM between '90-'91. No one said 'big draw' or 'biggest draws' but you can't argue that he draws. You don't get to be a 20 year veteran in the same company if the fans always take piss breaks during your matches.

He also never said that Taker was the most important guy ever either did he? He repied to LJL's remark that HBK is just as reliable and dedicated to the 'E' as Taker has been, which GOD doesn't agree with. It's not HBK's fault that he had to take 4 years out with a back injury, but at the same time you can't say he's been consistantly reliable for 20 years like Taker has either, which was GOD's point.

Moving on to your point, if we're talking World title matches, Rock and Austin have had the same number of ME WM matches as Taker, with 3 each, just thought i'd point that out.

Rock - WM15, WM16, and WM17
Austin - WM14, WM15 and WM17
Undertaker - WM13, WM23 and WM24

He and Austin also hold the shared record for most World title wins at WM. If we're talking the last match on the card, then yeah Austin and Rock beat him, but it's not really fair seeing as he was in the SD ME for WM23, they just decided to have it in the middle of the card for some reason instead of in the last 3 matches.

And if we're talking in the last 3 matches of the card at WM then i think you'll find that Taker's score suddenly surpasses both Austin and Rock's.

Furthermore, you can't really bring Hogan up since most of his WM ME were before Taker even joined the company, and no one is likely to ever headline more WM than Hogan. It was more or less HIS PPV.

As for HHH, well, he only ME's WM so often because more often than not, he's been the champion since mid-spring the previous year (or since the previous month as this year shows) and hasn't dropped the belt since, only to lose at 'Mania (or not as i think he's retained at Mania more than anyone with 3 title retentions, but i'm not sure on that one)

 

[jrocc4dub]

I just really can't begin to describe how amazing it is to me someone has the audacity to say the undertaker is done and needs to leave the main event scene if not the wwe all together. Besides hbk and jericho, nobody has better matches than the deadman. He consistently puts on quality matches and makes who he works with look like a million bucks. Taker and hbk stole the show at wrestlemania. Now, half a year later he's done and needs to go away. I just think that's a ridiculous statement. Taker will be around as long as he wants to. The guy still is better in the ring than most of the guys on the roster. When he was in hardys place when the lights came on, youre a liar if you didn't mtfo for that. Takers a rare legend in the biz that puts over the younger talent. This feud with punk will make punk a huge star. Hes on his way anyway, but, takers rub will complete him being legit. anyway, taker should stick around as long as he wants. Hes still a top notch in ring worker, can bring it on the mic, and never seems to get old. I'd personally love to see a heel taker again but hes so over that won't happen. It's also why hes still in the main event scene. He deserves to be cuz he can still get the job done. Ziggler, Morrisson, who ever else that's the so called next star, they aren't ready to main event and honestly cant hold takers jock. Theyll be there sooner than later but as of now takers the biggest star on smackdown. Sorry bout the rambling but silly shit like taker needs to go away is just plain moronic and gets me goin a bit. Bottom line, taker deserves the main event cuz hes a legend and can still put on excellent matches and further feuds with his mic work.

 

[spinningtorturerack]

I think this time is a good time for him to come back, however much I have enjoyed the whole hardy/punk/ morrison (although he hasn't had an actual shot yet), it just seems like it was starting to get stale and he can make a good interim feud for punk before a significant challenge steps up thats younger and has a more personal feud.

It seems like unless he can radically change his gimmick it might be time to retire because although its great and a spectacle to watch, he has to make a big entrance so he dissapears for a while and comes back so he gets a great reaction. Bascially everyone gets tired quite quickly with all the gimmicks etc even though he always has great matches, and the WWE can rely on him to pull in crowds still, I don't think they want to let go yet, even though it might be time.

 

[Prolific]

WOW... who in there right minds would argue that Taker needs to retire?!
There are soooo many things to devour that thought, but I'll only mention a few:

- He still is a HUGE draw
- He "makes ppl famous," which in layman's term means that he has the ability to put ppl over without them even winning!
Case and point: during the alliance era, he had a match with "Rhyno", and the angle was that if he beats Taker, he would "put the nail in the WWF coffin."
Here is the match:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGVjj2rPOmk
-WMXXV: need I say more?
- He has shown over the years that he is not a Champion hog. He has only been World Champ in the WWE 6 times in 20 years, as compared to 13 by HHH, 9 by the Rock, and 9 by Edge (who has all wrestled less time in the WWE than him).
- He is very much needed now to fill the void of Jeff Hardy, and to groom stars like Morrison and Ziggler, to name a few.

 

[kingdirrtysouth1]

I think he has another good year & few big draw matches left in him. He can still draw and can more than hold his end of a feud and deliver solid matches. No gimmicky cartoon character has ever lasted this long with it's mystique still intact. He can still go and as long as his body hasn't broken down to the point of where he can barely move around the ring, I don't see a reason for him to retire just yet!

 

[X]

Why the hell should the Undertaker retire? He can still do his thing. 'Taker has always wrestled the same style of match (though he's added some very nice moves to his repertoire over the last few years with the variations of the triangle choke). It's not as though he's really any worse now than he was 10 years ago. I'm quite excited to see what happens with him and CM Punk, I think those two could have some downright excellent matches with each other.

There are plenty of cases in wrestling now where I'd agree that they need to "Just Retire Already", but the Undertaker isn't one of those cases. Talk to me about Hulk Hogan and maybe we'll get somewhere.

 

[GOD]

What about the fact that Steve Austin, the Rock, Triple H, HBK, Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart all of whom have main evented more Wrestlemania's than Undertaker, who is tied with Yokozuna. If Undertaker was such a big draw, why hasn't he ever been the top star? Undertaker is a main eventer and has a very unique and interesting gimmick, but he certainly isn't anywhere near the biggest dreaw or most inmportant guy in WWE history.

I don't care how many main events they headlined. The Undertaker could main event Wrestlemania 26 & it would still draw. He's actually one of the main selling points of Wrestlemania. He just steps aside so others get their shine! Just about everybody watches his match at Wrestlemania!

Why hasn't The Undertaker ever been a top star ??? Are you slow??? The Undertaker is one of their main stars for the past 2 decades almost now! Why did he go over Hogan during Hogan's run??? Becuz he was over. He's been one of their major stars since then! You weren't even watching wrestling then! I could tell just by your comment!

Explain to me who has been a MAIN EVENT star for the WWE for 2 decades straight ....... Explain that one ....

& Yes The Undertaker is one of the WWE's biggest draws of all time! & Yes we could argue that he has been one of the most important wrestlers to the WWE of all time! You're wrong!

It would be huge for the WWE if The Undertaker to just up & retire becuz some pimply faced kid behind a computer feels like finding something to bitch about!

 

[SSJPhenom]

I don't care how many main events they headlined. The Undertaker could main event Wrestlemania 26 & it would still draw. He's actually one of the main selling points of Wrestlemania. He just steps aside so others get their shine! Just about everybody watches his match at Wrestlemania!

Why hasn't The Undertaker ever been a top star ??? Are you slow??? The Undertaker is one of their main stars for the past 2 decades almost now! Why did he go over Hogan during Hogan's run??? Becuz he was over. He's been one of their major stars since then! You weren't even watching wrestling then! I could tell just by your comment!

Explain to me who has been a MAIN EVENT star for the WWE for 2 decades straight ....... Explain that one ....

& Yes The Undertaker is one of the WWE's biggest draws of all time! & Yes we could argue that he has been one of the most important wrestlers to the WWE of all time! You're wrong!

It would be huge for the WWE if The Undertaker to just up & retire becuz some pimply faced kid behind a computer feels like finding something to bitch about!

I love 'Taker aswell, probably one of the biggest 'Taker marks that you will find on here, but please. If you are going to argue a point about 'Taker do it better than this.


With that said, GOD is right. 'Taker is a main sell for WM every year. Everyone is interested in what 'Taker does every year and he certainly could have main evented every single Mainia since his return as the Deadman. For me, outside of the 'Taker match, everything else is extra.

'Taker has been a main event star for nearly 20 years, consistantly, and is probably the only star in WWE history that could make such a claim. However, I wouldn't even venture so far as to say that he is or even was a huge draw for WWE. Sure he sells some merchandise, but buyrates and rating really don't change that much when he is around as opposed to when he is gone.

 

[GOD]

I love 'Taker aswell, probably one of the biggest 'Taker marks that you will find on here, but please. If you are going to argue a point about 'Taker do it better than this.


With that said, GOD is right. 'Taker is a main sell for WM every year. Everyone is interested in what 'Taker does every year and he certainly could have main evented every single Mainia since his return as the Deadman. For me, outside of the 'Taker match, everything else is extra.

'Taker has been a main event star for nearly 20 years, consistantly, and is probably the only star in WWE history that could make such a claim. However, I wouldn't even venture so far as to say that he is or even was a huge draw for WWE. Sure he sells some merchandise, but buyrates and rating really don't change that much when he is around as opposed to when he is gone.

Everyone from Shawn Michaels to Bret Hart to even Hulk Hogan himself have commented on Taker's overness and that does means something coming from Hogan since Hogan doesn't really seem to like giving guys their props unless it's himself when he talks about them. Ric Flair has said it also that Taker is just as responsible as anybody else is for this business .....

Hell even with Wrestlemania 25 this year, many wrestling fans have bought it just for the historical HBK/Taker match but HHH will get the credits for the buyrates becuz he's in the main event ....

 

[SavageTaker]

I really don’t think he should retire. So what if he is out for a few months a year and is 44 years old, he can still go and go better than a lot of the wrestlers in the roster. So, he can put on good/great matches that still entertain people…that should be enough reason for him not to retire.

However, other than still being able to put on good/great matches at his age there is another thing very important thing he can do before he retires and that is to put over up and coming wrestlers. Guys that they are building up to be future main eventers like John Morrison, Dolph Ziggler, and others could use the rub from Undertaker. He can also put over wrestlers further, like CM Punk for example.

So the fact that he can still put on good/great matches that entertain people and the fact that he can give the younger wrestlers a huge rub is more than enough reason for him not to retire yet. Once he can’t do either one of those things and doesn’t really have any value left then maybe he should retire…but for now the answer is no, he shouldn’t retire.

 

[gd]

I don't care how many main events they headlined. The Undertaker could main event Wrestlemania 26 & it would still draw.

As big as a match with Cena or HBK? I doubt it.

He's actually one of the main selling points of Wrestlemania.

Yep, the streak is good stuff.

He just steps aside so others get their shine!

That doesn't even make sense.

Just about everybody watches his match at Wrestlemania!

That is true, if someone spends 60 bucks on Wrestlemania, they will likely watch all of the matches.

Why hasn't The Undertaker ever been a top star ???

Because he hasn't. He's consistently been a main eventer, but he's never been the number 1 guy.

Are you slow???

I'm not the one using 3 question marks and useless smilies.

The Undertaker is one of their main stars for the past 2 decades almost now!

If you take out all of the times he's disappeared it's really closer to 12.

Why did he go over Hogan during Hogan's run???

Taker may have beaten Hogan, I don't recall, wasn't watching then, but Hogan was still the bigger star.

Becuz he was over.

It's actually "because", are you slow. Of course he was and is still ever, have I ever said otherwise.

He's been one of their major stars since then!

Obviously.

You weren't even watching wrestling then!

So?

I could tell just by your comment!

Which comment, the one that was more logical than any of yours.

Explain to me who has been a MAIN EVENT star for the WWE for 2 decades straight ....... Explain that one ....

He hasn't been a star for 2 decades straight, he's taken lots of breaks. Even so, longevity doesn't always mean you are the best, just look at Dreamer.

& Yes The Undertaker is one of the WWE's biggest draws of all time!

You're just repating yourself.

& Yes we could argue that he has been one of the most important wrestlers to the WWE of all time!

Undertaker has been important to the WWE, but not as much as Flair, Hogan, Austin, the Rock, Triple H, or Cena.

You're wrong!

No, you.

It would be huge for the WWE if The Undertaker to just up & retire becuz some pimply faced kid behind a computer feels like finding something to bitch about!

Pimply faced kid, what an original insult. Have you seen my face? It is perfectly clear. If you can randomly make stuff up about me, how about I call you a 500 pound Portuguese woman who hasn't walked in 4 years.

I also never said that Undertaker should retire, if you would've read my first post in this thread you would've seen that. Heck, I argued with someone who thought otherwise.

However, you have brought this thread to a new level of crap with you awful and inaccurate post. Undertaker is certainly not the most important superstar or the biggest dreaw in WWE history, and he is definetly not "the glue that has held the company together."