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Undertaker: Just Retire Already

I watched smackdown on 11-20-09. Undertaker is just not the same. He aged it seemed like overnight. Yes he's 44 but he always managed to look good for his age, that is until the last few years. He use to weigh about 325 or so. He now looks like he's about 260. He looks extremely frail and sick. His chest is caved in and you can see alot of his bones. I don't understand why he's not covering up his chest, but would expose such frailness. He walks even slower than he use to. Just 4-5 yrs ago he looked healthy and was the Undertaker I always remembered but something happened with this guy.

He's limited in the ring now, he's taken a beating over the years and in a twinkling of an eye it dramatically caught up with him. He's definitely not the same and should hang em up before he tarnishes his legacy like hogan, flair and Michaels are doing.

Byrneside, Get it right buddy.

Booker T and Kurt angle both asked to be released. Goldberg, Lashley, and Lesnar all "walked away" from offers.

Triple H has caused WWE to lose a lot of talent, which is why the roster looks so bare. It's amazing he still has a job. He's old and flabby now so he really shouldn't have the kind of leverage he use to have. If he wasn't married into the company, at this point in his career he probably would be on ECW. I'm not going to go into who he ran off but i'll list some of the ones he held down. KANE: huge one, y was it triple h had to be the one to cause kane to unmask? Goldberg: Trips beat him like 2-3 times, no way he should've beaten Goldberg that many times. Jericho: Look how many times it took Jericho before he finally beat triple h. Ahmed Johnson: He was never the same after triple h beat him. Big show: Can't count how many times big show lost to him: Edge: If it wasn't for triple h, edge would have won the title before cena even came around: Umaga: Dominant heel who lost a lot of steam after triple h somehow pedigreed him, bs.: Booker T: Had a ton of heat with his best gimmick ever in king Booker, and for some stupid reason was made to lose at Summerslam after triple h was out for an eternity. BS. Randy Orton: up until his feud with Kofi Kingston, Orton was still getting buried by a 40yr old flabby triple h. It's ridiculous. Vince McMahon must really love his daughter like seriously.
 
Taker can go fuck himself. He's always been boring as fuck when it comes to character. Whether it's being a "human zombie that knows MMA" or "I ride bikes to Limp Bizkit songs". Now that he can't work a match over 8 minutes anymore he's 100% useless. He already buried the hottest act in the company cause he didn't wear a suit. The irony about that is Taker has a character that almost causes him to no even be seen by the fans in public. What a hypocritical bitch!
 
Taker can go fuck himself. He's always been boring as fuck when it comes to character. Whether it's being a "human zombie that knows MMA" or "I ride bikes to Limp Bizkit songs". Now that he can't work a match over 8 minutes anymore he's 100% useless. He already buried the hottest act in the company cause he didn't wear a suit. The irony about that is Taker has a character that almost causes him to no even be seen by the fans in public. What a hypocritical bitch!

He's not 100% useless. Injuries have plagued him just like it has most superstars so he can't work as many matches anymore. Undertaker was just trying to tell Punk to better represent himself as a champion and there is nothing with that so maybe you need to think what you say before you call someone hypocritical.
 
Hold on a minute..... Taker out of his time, really? Due to some regulations I am not aloud to say what I really want to say...lol...jk...please dont give me an infraction.....anyways when taker's around the WWE is a whole different story. Just because he is 44 yrs old doesn't mean crap. tons of wrestlers have wrestled into. Saying your tired of Taker is like saying your tired of HHH or HBK. i know they haven't been here as long as Taker but they have been here since the mid nineties. The Undertaker has been a work horse for many of years and the WWE is just giving him the title because he deserves it. And to answer your question on why the WWE isn't pushing the young talent is because.....

Ziggler, McIntrye, Escobar: to soon
Morrison: great talent just not main event material yet
Yang, Hart Dynasty, Haas, Cryme Tyme: not a chance ever!
Knox, Truth: maybe, both need the right push like Truth is getting with Punk

If the WWE is going to push someone over Taker it would be someone who has done the time for years like Mysterio, Matt Hardy, Khali. But in my opinion Taker not injured is pound for pound the best wrestler out there.
 
Yeah im kind of starting to lean towards that belief as well. Taker seems to be banged up a lot and he's 50+ years old, it's time to hang it up. And I really don't understand why Taker is holding the title, he's held the championship so much lately, the idea is just stale by now. How does having Taker hold the title help the company? Just seems like another case of WWE's unoriginality and inability to move on.
 
Yeah im kind of starting to lean towards that belief as well. Taker seems to be banged up a lot and he's 50+ years old,

No, he's 44, can you read the post above of you?

it's time to hang it up.

Yup, one of the top draws in the company should just hang it up cause he isn't as awesome as he once was.

And I really don't understand why Taker is holding the title, he's held the championship so much lately, the idea is just stale by now.

Taker actually doesn't have that many world title reigns in his career, at least compared to guys like HHH and Edge.

How does having Taker hold the title help the company?

He's one of their biggest stars, isn't half bad in the ring, and is completely over with the fans. That could be why.

Just seems like another case of WWE's unoriginality and inability to move on.

I would've liked them to keep the title on Punk a while longer, but if they were to take it off him, Taker was the best choice. What other faces were ready for the title on Smackdown? Morrison? Nope. Mysterio? Been there, done that. Matt Hardy? Good one. Taker was the only choice WWE had on the face side of things, hopefully some of the younger guys will step it up ove the next year or 2 to take over that spot.
 
I'm glad Undertaker has the title. All he needs is a really good heel to fued with and that could build for a big match at Mania. Other than Punk (who's heel push is still young) and Jericho, Smackdown doesn't have any heel that will build up a big time match with undertaker.
 
Taker wasn't in shape for this title reign, putting on a good match once every couple of months isn't good enough to be champion (insert generic jab at Cena here). Pardon the pun, but he effectively buried Punk, whose main event status was one of the best decisions by WWE in years, and while I love R-Truth, Punk should still be at the top.

Undertaker has a position that is effectively beyond championship status, and programs where he's motivated by revenge and hatred of someone are far more compelling when he's after a championship. There was no reason to hate Punk, so why did Undertaker want him to 'Rest In Peace'. And why is the Deadman enamoured with the gold? I think he still has a lot to offer in the WWE, (see: WM25) but not in the championship picture
 
Taker wasn't in shape for this title reign, putting on a good match once every couple of months isn't good enough to be champion (insert generic jab at Cena here).

I disagree, he'd been putting good matches everytime he steps into ring. Granted Punk should have held the title longer, but he didn't and once it was decided for him to drop it, Taker was the only logical choice. If anyone else had beaten Punk, it'd have been far worse for him, at least people expected Taker to beat him.

Pardon the pun, but he effectively buried Punk, whose main event status was one of the best decisions by WWE in years, and while I love R-Truth, Punk should still be at the top.

No... Creative and Vince buried Punk, Taker was just doing his job, what he was told to do. For some reason Punk lose creative's support and they took the title off of him, Taker did nothing wrong. However I do agree R-Truth is not ready to move past Punk.

Undertaker has a position that is effectively beyond championship status, and programs where he's motivated by revenge and hatred of someone are far more compelling when he's after a championship. There was no reason to hate Punk, so why did Undertaker want him to 'Rest In Peace'. And why is the Deadman enamoured with the gold? I think he still has a lot to offer in the WWE, (see: WM25) but not in the championship picture

I agree with most of this, but Taker is enamoured with gold, because all wrestlers are supposed to be. They are here to win championships, and even Taker will not let that chance pass him by.
 

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