Triple H, Sheamus and the wider repercussions

[Dave]

As my signature might suggest to you. I have been awaiting the return of the King Of Kings for the longest time now. Every single Raw is a battle with tension and nerves as I think about how his return is going to be orchestrated. That being said, my estimations have all been wrong. With every passing Raw on a Monday night, I grow more and more frustrated by the lack of people playing The Game. With every Raw, I ask myself how Triple H is going to insert himself back into the workings of Raw and have struggled to work out what the best way to do that would be.

However, as I sat on the toilet last night, I thought about how I would bring him back and although I may be getting ahead of myself somewhat, I think I have come to the realisation that Triple H will be back on TV within the week.

You see, TLC is a great time to bring back The Game. With Sheamus and John Morrison set to battle it out for the number 1 contenders spot at TLC, it wouldn't make sense for Sheamus to win that match. A heel vs. heel feud for the WWE Championship has not happened since Sheamus and Randy Orton first battled for the Championship and even then Orton was on the road to becoming a face anyway. It would be very intriguing to have Sheamus pick up the win but I reckon that the status quo, in regards to the good guy/bad guy routine, will continue in that respect.

So, when you think about Sheamus losing to Morrison, I have trouble thinking that he will lose cleanly. There would literally be no point in him winning the King of the Ring tournament just to be beaten by Morrision, cleanly, a fortnight later. All that leads me to believe that Triple H must get involved in his match at TLC. I have a feeling that Triple H will return at TLC to cost Sheamus the opportunity to challenge for the title and things will pretty much work themselves out.

Sheamus will be freed up to feud with Triple H after the rubber match with Morrison.
Morrison will be feuding with the man whom he used to tag with and ha s along history with.

To me, it just makes sense to have Triple H come to the ring and cost Sheamus the match. Perhaps I am getting to excited about the possibility of my favourite wrestler returning but to me, it makes the most sense to have this be the outcome this Sunday night.

With all of that said, what do you think is the probablity of Triple H screwing Sheamus out of the match?

Furthermore, what does this mean on the wider picture for everyone? Will Morrison and The Miz feud until the Royal Rumble? Will Sheamus and Triple H feud until WrestleMania, or could one of them feasibly win the Royal Rumble and have the other tag on to him until WrestleMania?

You tell me!

 

[Daniel.Wood]

Morrison has to win cleanly surely? it's a #1 contendership match, if he doesn't win cleanly surely he won't seem worthy? and surely the whole feud is currrently based on who is the better man. Both men have already beaten eachother cleanly as well. It just makes sense that this match will be a clean win. TripleH can attack Sheamus afterwards but he shouldn't interfere in the match.

 

[mrbrownstone]

That seem's to be a very distinct possibility to me and seems to work in every aspect, although for such a high scale return to happen this match would have to be booked very high on the card perhaps straight before the main event as I don't think the return of a main event wrestler such as HHH would happen during a mid card match. The good thing is is wouldn't be too much of a stretch for this match to be booked so high on the card.

Apart from that though it would be perfect. It would protect Sheamus from losing clean to Morrison clean again just weeks after he won king of the ring which would make him look incredibly weak.

It also allows John Morrison to win, if such a win didn't/doesn't occur then this whole feud would be rendered pointless as the whole point of this feud is to push JoMo, if he loses to Sheamus clean for the third time then I would think that objective would be left un-acomplished.

Most importantly it would re-ignite the Sheamus/Hunter feud, while still giving it plenty of time for it to be over before Wrestlemania as I don't think they will want to do this match at Mania twice in a row. They can have a singles match at either the Rumble or EC (or both) as well as on Raw and have the feud over with plenty of time left to build up their individual Mania feuds.

Overall I think this idea is very plausible but it hinges highly on one unknown, are HHH's injuries healed to the point where he can return? If so then this scenario fits perfectly if not then he wont be returning at TLC.

 

[Malenko316]

Wow, a level of prediction on par with: 'i think John Cena might use five different moves in his match with Barrett at TLC'. The only reason to have Seamus win KotR was to set up the return fued with Trips. Making the match against JoMo for the contendership guarantees a JoMo win (heel v heel is herassy). Doing the set up now, means a) Trips v Seamus is over before WM b) Orton can get some time off and not leave a face void, c) JoMo vs Miz can be tested well before WM, so when it bombs, it won't do so at the biggest event of the yr. Well Done genius for spotting this!

 

[Wullief23]

I believe this is why WWE have made Shameless win the King of the Ring tournament! They didn't have any need to give him the title of King, he is already been in the main event picture and 2 time WWE champ, so i feel someone like Alberto would have been a better choice for King to give him the next step up...BUT I think they gave it to Sheamus so he keeps calling himself King Sheamus and Triple H finally returns with the King of Kings gimmick to come accross as the real king and battles Sheamus....KING vs KING.


Either that or he'll probably just return number 30 in the Royal Rumble.....YAAAAWWWWN

 

[Dzone]

I would be more happy if Morrison won cleanly and Sheamus was laying there in the ring helpless and then the King of Kings takes out Sheamus O.O. Thus starting a heel vs heel, High King vs King of Kings fued?! (I said heel vs heel because i've always preferred Triple H as a heel so for him to do so maybe he could take out Morrison too or even take out another face behind the scenes just to hint at a return? Maybe take out Rey Mysterio if it turns out he cannot wrestle due to injury *i.e. work it into the story, and make it something like he (Triple H) wanted to get noticed*.

 

[MVPBTU]

Yeah i believe this will happen very soon hopefully Trips' injury is healed up though or at least very close because if he cant wrestle for a month or so he can still mess with sheamus till the royal rumble and then have his first match back instead of being number thirty. But weve seen something similar to this before when trips got hurt at new years revolution and came back and fought King Booker at Summerslam, only this is more intense.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I could see Triple H returning at TLC and ultimately cost Sheamus the #1 contender spot for the WWE Championship. Both Sheamus & John Morrison have shown that they can beat the other as each of them holds a clean victory over the other one, so interference here won't hurt John Morrison. JoMo feuding with The Miz could be very interesting and entertaining and Sheamus would be free and clear to go at it with Triple H.

I'm just hoping that they don't just ultimately wind up making Sheamus Triple H's bitch. Sheamus has come a long way over the course of a year and just serving him up to Triple H on a silver platter just simply isn't going to do anyone any favors. Trips is a 13 time World Champion, he's headlined WrestleMania, he's HOF bound. I'm not saying he should lose every match in this feud, but just having him run roughshod over Sheamus will just be a setback to Sheamus.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

Sure but if they do let Sheamus win and he goes on to challenge The Miz at the Rumble and then Hunter interrupts...surely that would be more better storyline wise. Ye I see how it is too early for a heel vs heel match for the champ Miz but it wouldn't hurt his credibility. They both might put each other over with a good healthy verbal spar.

However I don't wanna see Hunter vs Sheamus match at WM again. There is nothing they can bring to the table even if it is done inside Dog Kennel Match (? that Al Snow match). Hunter needs to fight the real big guns at 'Mania. His time is drawing near and it would be smart move by the creative if they booked him with bigger names than Sheamus.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

Really I do not think that there is anything wrong with Morrison winning cleanly at TLC. I mean he is surely at an advantage with the stipulation catering to his strength. I would like to see Morrison winning cleanly and Sheamus attacking Morrison post match and The Game coming out to save Morrison's ass. That would be the way I would book things. Of course a lot depends on whether Triple H is actually ready to make a comeback or not.

I think we are going to see Triple H vs Sheamus at wrestlemania whether we like it or not. It would be interesting to see what HHH would do once the rivalry is over. Will he turn heel now that there is no HBK to reform DX with? That question is more intriguing to me.

 

[Theo Mays]

Honestly having Hunter return at TLC to cost Sheamus would be better in terms of booking than having Hunter return at the Rumble to cost Sheamus. If Hunter would return at the Rumble and screw Sheamus it is likely that we'll see Hunter/Sheamus at Wrestlemania again and personally I'm not sure I'd want that to go down. Having Hunter return at TLC however sets up a potential showdown at the Rumble in which Hunter could win. Now that may seem like Sheamus is Hunter's bitch, but that can be easily reversed by having Sheamus eliminate Hunter at Elimination Chamber. Boom, end of story and both guys could move to bigger and better things at Wrestlemania.

 

[LSN80]

I think its a very high possibility. In my match prediction under the official match thread, thats actually what i suggested would happen. Despite being King of The Ring, I think it would hurt Sheamus to lose cleanly to Morrison, even in a ladder match. With the inevitable feud with HHH looming, I think it would be a momentum killer heading into a feud he ultimately won't win.

Enter HHH. Obviously, noone would have more of a beef with Sheamus then HHH, and seems to be the only logical way for Sheamus to lose and still retain credibility. It also wouldnt hurt Morrison either, as getting a win and heading toward his first title match on PPV is never a bad thing, tainted or not. HHH was never able to finish his speech to HBK, kayfabe wise, due to Sheamus. Between that attack, and the brutal attack at Extreme Rules, costing Sheamus the opportunity to become WWE Champion once again would obviously be the best way to enact revenge. Waiting until the Rumble for HHH to return would be too long, both for Morrison and Sheamus.

The perfect thing for both would obviously be you would have two ready made feuds that practically write themselves. I think the probability is very high that Miz retains on Sunday, so a feud between former tag partners that havent crossed paths much would make for entertaining television, especially for the WWE Championship. And obviously, you have a long awaited grudge feud between HHH and Sheamus along the lines Cena and Barrett in a way. Barrett cost Cena his job in a way, and Sheamus did the same for HHH. As I said, this pretty much writes itself. And the ladder match at TLC is the time to start the first chapter of that story.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

It wouldn't surprise me if Triple H returned at TLC. He could cost Sheamus the match, and then the feud between Triple and Sheamus would resume. Although, I don't think I could see something like this happening. I think Triple H will return at the Rumble. Sheamus could be on a roll as he tosses out wrestlers, and then The Game's music hits. Triple H would end up costing Sheamus a chance at main eventing Wrestlemania, and of course, this would piss off the Celtic Warrior.

But we're getting closer and closer to Wrestlemania, so it's hard to tell how WWE will handle this. I doubt Triple VS Sheamus will be a one time thing. Sheamus has kayfabe put Triple H on the shelf for months, so I think we're going to see a lengthy feud between these two.

Sheamus really needs to look strong when this feud resumes. Sheamus put Triple H on the shelf for months, and having Triple H dominate him in a feud would make the attack at Extreme Rules look like a waste. Triple H has many accolades in the world of pro wrestling. Sheamus has had an impressive rise to the top, but he needs to be able to hold his own against Triple H.

 

[JGlass]

There are a few problems to your logic Dave, and none of prevalent than this...

Why TLC when you can return at Royal Rumble?

The Royal Rumble has provided for some phenomenal returns the past few years. Cena's return in '08 was magical, and Edge went from the most hated man in the WWE to one of the most popular simply because his return was totally unexpected at the 2010 Royal Rumble. The only people who are expecting a Triple H return right now are the hardcore Trips marks who have been foaming at the mouth ever since he left. The majority of the WWE fans are too busy thinking about Cena, Orton, The Miz, and the Nexus right now to be concerned with when the King of Kings makes his triumphant (and it will be triumphant) return.

Have him return during the Rumble immediately after Sheamus comes in, so if Sheamus is 23, Triple H is 24. Sheamus should eliminate some talent enhancement whom has been in the ring for like, 3 minutes, and then hear the music hit, and just get that "Oh fuck..." look on his face. Triple H runs full speed to the ring, pushes someone out of the way, and he and Sheamus start trading punches. Sheamus lands a couple blows, but none that really stick, and Triple H overpowers him in mere seconds. Triple H backs him up against the ropes and takes both himself and Sheamus out, and the brawl continues outside the ring. Triple H doesn't want the title shot at Mania, he wants Sheamus dead.


If Triple H returns at TLC, it'll be a return that fewer people will see, and it won't have the same significance as a Rumble Return. If he screws Sheamus out of the match at TLC, it's not that important, it's just a title shot at Rumble. If he screws Sheamus out of the Rumble, he screws Sheamus out of main eventing Wrestlemania, every wrestlers dream.

Sorry Dave, but you're going to have to wait until 2011 to see your beloved Triple H come back.

 

[Dave]

There are a few problems to your logic Dave, and none of prevalent than this...

Why TLC when you can return at Royal Rumble?

The Royal Rumble has provided for some phenomenal returns the past few years. Cena's return in '08 was magical, and Edge went from the most hated man in the WWE to one of the most popular simply because his return was totally unexpected at the 2010 Royal Rumble. The only people who are expecting a Triple H return right now are the hardcore Trips marks who have been foaming at the mouth ever since he left. The majority of the WWE fans are too busy thinking about Cena, Orton, The Miz, and the Nexus right now to be concerned with when the King of Kings makes his triumphant (and it will be triumphant) return.

Have him return during the Rumble immediately after Sheamus comes in, so if Sheamus is 23, Triple H is 24. Sheamus should eliminate some talent enhancement whom has been in the ring for like, 3 minutes, and then hear the music hit, and just get that "Oh fuck..." look on his face. Triple H runs full speed to the ring, pushes someone out of the way, and he and Sheamus start trading punches. Sheamus lands a couple blows, but none that really stick, and Triple H overpowers him in mere seconds. Triple H backs him up against the ropes and takes both himself and Sheamus out, and the brawl continues outside the ring. Triple H doesn't want the title shot at Mania, he wants Sheamus dead.


If Triple H returns at TLC, it'll be a return that fewer people will see, and it won't have the same significance as a Rumble Return. If he screws Sheamus out of the match at TLC, it's not that important, it's just a title shot at Rumble. If he screws Sheamus out of the Rumble, he screws Sheamus out of main eventing Wrestlemania, every wrestlers dream.

Sorry Dave, but you're going to have to wait until 2011 to see your beloved Triple H come back.

Possibly, I am not saying that Triple H definitely will return tonight. What I am saying is that it would make just as much sense, if not more sense, to have him return tonight.

Think about, the Royal Rumble was won by Edgre last year and he was a surprise entrant. The same goes for Cena in 2008 was the exact same. 3 surprise wins in 4 Royal Rumble matches? Come on, man! That is so predictable that it is completely untrue. Here is a novel idea, why not have someone come in early and have a dominant performance to pick up the win? That would put the person over way more than coming in at number 29 and eliminating 3 people to pick up the win, even if it their glorious return. I mean, look at what happened with Edge last year. He won the Rumble, being the surprise entrant and it killed his momentum. He was put in the main event of WrestleMania and no one bought it.

Personally, I think that bringing Triple H back tonight would give him enough momentum and credibility to be dominant in the Rumble without having to rely on coming in to the game very late. Sheamus will be looking for something to do over the next month, if your guess is correct. Why not just have Triple H come back tonight and then Sheamus doesn't need to get lost in a limbo until Triple H comes back. Have him return tonight, cost Sheamus the title opportunity and then the feud is ready to go right off of the bat.

The WWE fans will have the same things to concentrate on when the Royal Rumble rolls around. The Miz will still be the WWE Champion. The Nexus will still be feuding with John Cena and Orton will still be looking to go after the title. Sorry, but that defence just doesn't gold up in my eyes. This is as good a time as any to have him return and I personally see it happening. If he doesn't return tonight, then Royal Rumble it will likely be. My hopes are pinned on it being tonight though.

 

[bubbaking94]

I would rather see Triple H return tonight instead of at the Rumble, which is when everyone is expecting him to. He should come out tonight during the Sheamus-Morrison match and costs Sheamus the match. Then him and Sheamus can feud and Miz and Morrison can start feuding.