Theory... Hollywood + Fourtune = "The Deception"

[Rasha]

Alright, hear a brother out.

If the Hogan/Bischoff heel turn is coming, then how will they enforce their power? What good are heel bosses without guys to do their bidding? I've been wondering for a while who will be the muscle if/when Hollywood Hogan and Easy E return, and tonight it hit me...

FORTUNE

1. Fortune is at war with everything in TNA. They're going against the ECW guys that Dixie brought it on her own, and who Hogan and Bischoff only supported after the fact. They fought the Angle/Hardy/Anderson/Pope crew only after Hogan organized it.

2. Sting's been talking about "The Deception." Well, where is it? If Hogan and Bischoff go heel, what would the actual deception have been? They haven't really secured anything for themselves or established a foothold. But what if it turns out Hogan and Bischoff were behind Fortune's war on ECW? What if they've been using Abyss and the tournament to weaken the top contenders to pave the way for Fortune? Notice how none of the Fortune members are involved in the World Title scene right now?

3. What would be one of the most original and shocking things TNA could show us? How about Hogan and Flair as allies? How about Sting's two greatest rivals joining forces? It would certainly validate all of his warnings.

I'm probably all kinds of wrong here, but what do you think of the theory?

 

[MB1025]

I think they will be Hogan, Bischoff, and Jarrett leading a new NWO into TNA to take it over. That is why Nash and Sting are the only ones that know what is going on because they have been through it. I think Ken Anderson will be the Hogan of the group and Samoa Joe and Abyss will be the Nash and Hall of the group.

 

[Brahma Bull]

i dont think your theory works too well because sting united with flair to take on hogan at one point. his focus isnt on flair, hell he warned him no ones safe. he knows what hogan is up to and is trying to stop it.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

DIdn't Fourtune beat Nash/Sting's asses a few weeks back? Why would they align with them. The way I see it, Fourtune is not going to be a part of "they". They'll be their own little army. Hell, I even see them turning faces to go against Hogan/Eric's goons ( whoever they are ).

 

[Rasha]

i dont think your theory works too well because sting united with flair to take on hogan at one point. his focus isnt on flair, hell he warned him no ones safe. he knows what hogan is up to and is trying to stop it.

Sting united with Flair for a while and then stopped. Why? Maybe he saw something that made him stop trusting Flair? If a "Deception" is really going on, then anything is really possible. Previous alliances and feuds could all just be a smoke screen.

DIdn't Fourtune beat Nash/Sting's asses a few weeks back? Why would they align with them. The way I see it, Fourtune is not going to be a part of "they". They'll be their own little army. Hell, I even see them turning faces to go against Hogan/Eric's goons ( whoever they are ).

I'm confused. The idea is that Hogan and Bischoff are aligning with Fortune, not Nash and Sting. And doesn't Fortune beating them down only add to the possibility of my theory? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you or you misunderstood my post, but something isn't jiving here.

 

[Brother Love]

Personally I could care less who THEY are. There will be no shock and awe as this is the same story line we've seen for over a year. Every 3 or 4 months, a large group forms and threatens to take over TNA (Fortune, EV2, MEM). Someone threatens a takeover, TNA guys fight off threat, new group comes along, bla bla bla. Stop with the NWO rehashed story line, fire Vince Russo, Fire Bishoff (who is only there to get his production company in the door at spike), and fire anyone else responsable for writing this same old crap and thinking it's good and original.
I'm not a TNA hater. I was a fan of WCW & the origial ECW and wish them success, but they need to get back to wrestling, building up some individual wrestlers and get back to wrestling and stop with the weekly beat downs & run ins.

 

[The Best At What I Do]

Actually their name is Fourtune. You see, they have 7 members but they're the reincarnation of The Four Horsemen so they put up 4 fingers in their gang sign and have two 4s in their logo because that makes perfect sense

What makes some actual sense its your idea. Maybe I just can't buy Bischoff as a face and Sting as a heel but something always feel wrong with what I'm watching. Those roles need to be reversed ASAPedly and your idea is the quickest way to do it. This whole Deception angle has been about politics and some imaginary power struggle so it would only be logical to put the most politicking power hungry guys in real life in that kayfabe role as well. Plus Russo enjoys that sort of thing.

 

[Matt7584]

Wow TNA doing a Hogan/Bishoff heel turn! i mean no other company has ever done that before. Are u kidding me. The writing is horrible and so is the booking, i like TNA for old the old WWE guys like anderson and angle but Hogan/bishoff mean nothing to tna but taking their money. i respect Hogan and bishoff for who they were but they are stale. they need on screen GM/owner that fans like for a long time. then turn that person heel, thats shock and awe. who that person is, i have no clue. thats up to the ppl who get paid for a lousy job.

 

[Chadmw]

As much as I hate to join in on the TNA bashers, yeah this deception and They storylines really don't make sense

First you have Sting and Nash (and now Pope) saying Hogan and Bischoff and Jarrett (I won't add Joe as I think at the PPV there is going to be a swerve and he will join up with Nash and Sting) are up to no good and just trying to take over TNA, and they will try and prove it at 10-10-10

Then you have Abyss and They who are also trying to take over TNA and they will make their prescence known at 10-10-10

Then you have Fourtune that wants to take over TNA

So it sounds like you have three different storylines, but their really the same storylines, how many different groups are we going to have to try take over TNA

 

[ScruffDog]

I total think Hogan, Jarrett and Bischoff will join Fourtune. When Fourtune first attacked EV2, after Hardcore Justice, it was Hogan who brought EV2 out, and then he conveniently left just in time for Fourtune to come out and beat up EV2. And when Fourtune attracted Sting & Nash during there fight with Hogan and Jarrett, you never saw anyone in Fourtune touch Hogan or Jarrett

 

[Rasha]

I total think Hogan, Jarrett and Bischoff will join Fourtune. When Fourtune first attacked EV2, after Hardcore Justice, it was Hogan who brought EV2 out, and then he conveniently left just in time for Fourtune to come out and beat up EV2. And when Fourtune attracted Sting & Nash during there fight with Hogan and Jarrett, you never saw anyone in Fourtune touch Hogan or Jarrett

You're seeing the same stuff I am. Why would Fortune miss two opportunities to attack Hogan? Flair and Hogan are supposed to hate each other, right? For a while I thought it was just coincidence, but there are just so many signs that point to it now.

 

[Genius_Deadman]

You're seeing the same stuff I am. Why would Fortune miss two opportunities to attack Hogan? Flair and Hogan are supposed to hate each other, right? For a while I thought it was just coincidence, but there are just so many signs that point to it now.

if i may add to it (great points by the way), remember Hogan's promo on EV2.0 and the Hardcore Justice PPV?

he said he never watched them because he "had his beard black and taking over wrestling" or something. i took that as a kind of jab like "they weren't important enough to consider back then" and he could be doing that now. sort of, "look how they worked and look how much they drew, they couldn't get anything back then and now". i can see Hogan using those reasons to sort of "bury them" storyline wise and be right next to Flair in all this.

we'll see where this goes, but once everything is cemented and the swerves are done, i think it has great potential, but they gotta play it well in my opinion.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

I'm confused. The idea is that Hogan and Bischoff are aligning with Fortune, not Nash and Sting. And doesn't Fortune beating them down only add to the possibility of my theory? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you or you misunderstood my post, but something isn't jiving here

Yeah it's me. I just posted on a thread about Nash/Sting and my mind was still on that. Sorry.

And Hogan/Bischoff + Fourtune - I can see it happening. Fourtune being the corporate bastards, and the rest of the roster going up against them.

But see, Flair hates Hogan, so the only way for Fourtune to be aligned with Hogan is to kick Flair out, and I can see it happening. They could turn on Flair the same way they fucked up Dreamer.

Another thing is, Abyss already said that "they" are not Fourtune. It's going to be pretty stupid if Flair says that they are "they", then Abyss says they're not, and in the end - they are. Well not "stupid" but weird.

These things aside - Fourtune allied with Hogan and Bischoff would be absolutely AWESOME. This is the nWo all over again - but imo - with a LOT more talented fellas in it. I can see each of them becoming a world champion at some point.

 

[K4P-Unleashed]

I like this idea. What would be even cooler is if Fourtune turned on Flair and welcomed Hogan in. Hogan could say that he came to TNA so he could make a "fortune" and this is the only way he's going to do it. He books Morgan into the "assassination" role. The rest of the guys go after the championships. I don't like what people have been saying about reinventing NWO shit, so why don't we go with something new here. This would be legit cool in my opinion.

 

[JenksIX]

I don't remember Fourtune ever physically touching Jeff Jarrett/Hulk Hogan (they were laid out once when lights went off but Fourtune did not visibly touch them, while they beat up Nash/Sting)

I feel like TNA is going to pull the ol' double double on us no matter what. We might see Pope turn on Nash/Sting or we might see Joe turn on Jarrett/Hogan. Really have a hard time figuring where Fourtune will stand with a heel Hogan.

Anyway, I hope this is alright. It's a vid I found I think TNA fans here will enjoy. I think it's done real well, and it's pretty plausible. Good hype video for They and BFG.

[YOUTUBE]8tgfbUQXnYU[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Zeven_Zion]

I don't remember Fourtune ever physically touching Jeff Jarrett/Hulk Hogan (they were laid out once when lights went off but Fourtune did not visibly touch them, while they beat up Nash/Sting)

I feel like TNA is going to pull the ol' double double on us no matter what. We might see Pope turn on Nash/Sting or we might see Joe turn on Jarrett/Hogan. Really have a hard time figuring where Fourtune will stand with a heel Hogan.

Anyway, I hope this is alright. It's a vid I found I think TNA fans here will enjoy. I think it's done real well, and it's pretty plausible. Good hype video for They and BFG.

[YOUTUBE]8tgfbUQXnYU[/YOUTUBE]

THANK YOU for that video, I lost all of that footage and I had saved it 'cause I was intrigued by the whole storyline.

It's almost safe to confirm that "they" are Hogan and Bischoff now, isn't it? If so, then this whole storyline has been plotted around March like Bischoff said. He also said that RVD vacating the World Title was also scheduled to happen as it did. Why? To allow one of "them" to win it, and Anderson is just the guy to do it. Turning heel during the match, costing Angle his career. He conned the fans, just like Hogan and Bischoff conned Dixie to take control of her company for some reason.

 

[alex.ruiz003]

This is what I think about this “they” situation. Lets just go back a little and think about all the sh!t we have seen in tna that didn’t make Seans.

1) Lets start with dabble j Jeff jerat, when Hogan came to tna, he tried to get ride of Jeff. Erick bishoff made him do all this humiliating thing like clean the toilets and cook. Now what I don’t get is why is he defending them all of asuden? It’s like the brain washed him, right?
2) Samoa Joe!!!! Do you guys remember when Samoa Joe got kidnaper by Erick? Then a few months later he just came back with nothing to do?? What if he was brainwashed by them to???
3) Abyss!!! He became Hogan’s best friend, then for no reason he just turned into a heel. He just stops likening Hogan or something. But they never really go at it. I think it could be an act?
4) Sting!! Sting knows what’s up so has trying to recruit people to fight of Hogan, or something

So the way it looks right now is that I thing its going to turn into little groups , or factions : fortune,ev2,hoganscrew, and deception.( do you guys remember wcw groups:Holliwood now, now wolf pack, ravens flack, lWo,4 horse men. They all had like a war going on, will this happen to tna?)

 

[Rasha]

I know this thread's been dormant for a while, but I had to come back to it after tonight's Impact. Not trying to say "I told you so" or anything like that, but it is pretty awesome to have guessed this one right. The Flair/Hogan partnership after the decades of well-documented heat between just seemed like the type of move they'd go for. And now that we know Hardy and Abyss are also involved, it opens a lot of doors. How about Hardy and AJ teaming up? Or what about Abyss and Morgan? And how about the almost assured angle down the road when the two groups have friction?

I know there are a lot of mixed feelings about what TNA is doing right now, but I have to say that I'm happy with the direction. I just hope it lasts.

 

[Dean Winchester]

Yeah Fortune/New Regime is a great thing....this makes them even deadlier, I hope TNA does this war storyline right. I remember how bad MEM vs. Frontline was, so this needs be down right. I see EV2, Pope, Anderson, RVD, Joe and Angle(he coming back) against The Deception. If done right can be TNA's best feud and get them rolling in right direction. This feud should atleast last untl next spring, maybe the summer so can have alot of possibilites...I mean a war does last long time anyways.

 

[Kitten Cutter]

I got two problems with this:

1. Was Ric Flair and Fourtune part of the whole THEY and Deception plan? Were they in on it from the beginning? Or are they aligned because Flair is kissing ass tothe new bosses? I feel like if Fourtune really was aligned from the beginning, it's a massive deception that really doesn't add up on certain points. Were they part of it simply to get rid of EV2 (which was Dixie's bunch)? Were they ever aligned with Abyss or were they unaware? I wish that had more explanation.

2. Why is A.J. Styles so cool about all of this? Out of everyone he's the only one who should have a major problem with all of this. At this rate, he's NEVER going to be TNA World Champion again since Hardy has Hogan and Bischoff in his corner, and since he lost it to RVD he's only gotten one rematch, and then completely kept from every single chance to get it back. Shouldn't he be kinda pissed about that? (I did notice that when Hardy walked in the ring on Impact he wasn't clapping and just subtlely glared at him) Or is it too soon to worry about that?