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The Wyatts; what happened?

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Where are these guys? They've essentially disappeared from relevance, and now they've disappeared altogether.

Witg Rollins back, I understand them not being at the top of the latter anymore. But there is so much room for opportunity. They could feud with The New Day to help take them to the next level, or perhaps something with AJ Styles and the Harris Twins (or whatever they're called,) and once Rollins inevitably wins the title and the obligatory rematches are out of the way, they could go back to feuding with Reigns.

The possibilities are endless for them, and there's no reason for them to be off TV for this long.
 
Well Bray Wyatt and Luke Harper are both injured. Leg injuries I believe, so I guess they are keeping Strowman and Rowan off TV as well.

I'm sure as soon as Bray comes back we'll see them again, just as we did even after Harper went out. I have no idea when Harper is due back, but yea, no excuse to keep the other two off TV. Unless of course they have nothing for them right now. Have a feeling they were to clash with Reigns and the Uso's but because of the injury to Wyatt, Styles and the BC were put in his their place.
 
I have no idea when Harper is due back,
Last I read his interview, He said that maybe around September or October. That surely leaves him off Summerslam.

About the Wyatts, Bray Wyatt was spot on about their booking. He said, "They don't know what to do with us". It is totally right.

Can't say about Eric Rowan and Strowman but Bray and Harper are great talents. Harper can wrestle too fast for his physique. Bray is just too good at mic.

All they lack is booking. I hope that Bray makes it to the MITB Ladder match.

And I wouldn't want to see the other two lads only so I am happy to see Rowan and Strowman off TV.
 
The possibilities are endless for them, and there's no reason for them to be off TV for this long.

That's the problem right there - the possibilities for them are not endless. I have said it for a long time - people are in love with concept of the Wyatt Family but the reality is they are jobbers. How can someone be relevant when they lose every major angle they are in? Yeah, they gang attack someone and seem big and tough but when the big ppv match happens, they lose almost 100% of the time. How is someone like that considered a threat? wwe has had that happen for years now to the point where they are not relevant because you know they are going to come up short. And you can't say wins don't matter because they do in order to build someone up. If Wyatt lost a match but the other guy was out for months afterwards, that would be one thing but here you have guys who lose and their opponents walk away like nothing happened. How long can that happen and you still take them seriously? Truthfully, these injuries might be the best thing because it gets them off tv for a while - maybe wwe can try and rebuild of better yet repackage because right now the Wyatt's are a joke and I don't see why any opponent would be worreid about them.
 
I think all of them need to split up. What good is a heel stable that has as many wins as #Social Outcasts? Useless and a waste of talent. Braun Stroman and Rowan can form a hard hitting tag team or Rowan can just be Stroman's manager in normal attire. Luke Harper can be repackaged as a deranged face who's trying to be normal but can't get it right. Bray Wyatt can also try a face run against heels by himself. For once, WWE can give at least one of these guys a title and let him keep it for awhile.
 
It's a good move, actually, keeping the Wyatt's off TV recharges them so that they aren't overexposed as a group. That's really how the WWE should be using the Wyatt's anyway, or at least Strowman and Bray. They should be used sparingly. It should feel special every time that they get in the ring. Harper and Rowan should be the work horses. I think Harper is more skilled than Rowan and has the potential to go further, but WWE had something with Rowan when he was briefly pushed as a face. I felt he was the most sympathetic of the Wyatt's. I wouldn't mind seeing something similar to that push again.
 
"I have said it for a long time - people are in love with concept of the Wyatt Family but the reality is they are jobbers. How can someone be relevant when they lose every major angle they are in? Yeah, they gang attack someone and seem big and tough but when the big ppv match happens, they lose almost 100% of the time. How is someone like that considered a threat?"

But that's no fault of the Wyatts so much as booking. They never should have had him going after top of the mountain players like Roman Reigns and John Cena in feuds they never had a chance of winning.

When up against Ambrose, they were trying to push both at once, and only one can win. Same with Daniel Bryan before him. And then they put them in a feud with Kane and The Undertaker, which was another cant win, but it was supposed to make them look strong in defeat. It didn't, and all it accomplished was adding another uneccessary notch in Taker's belt.

As the roster stands now, there are plenty of upper-mid carders for them to work with. As I stated in the OP, AJ Styles or The New Day would be ideal.
 
The posters who have responded to the OP by pointing out that Bray and Harper are injured have effectively answered the question of why they've been off TV this long.

As for the posters who tried to answer the thread title of "what happened" and evaluate their position on the card, I'm not completely on board.

I think we can all agree that the Wyatts haven't quite been The Shield, but they also haven't necessarily been the Corre either. Whenever they return they will still have the most unique gimmick and look in the company - it's honestly just a matter of finally booking it correctly. They did such a good job hyping all 4 of them up, that having them all lose to every legend and then again to up and coming guys is really damaging. This effect is then multiplied due to the promo style of Wyatt. They tend to give him more minutes on the mic more than anyone else, and while his promos may be a matter of taste, no one will listen if all he does is lose. They don't need a repackage, they don't need a reboot, they just need to win. Having Bray be the one to give Brock Lesnar his first pinfall loss in 3 years might be too much to ask, but at least give him some clean wins over Ambrose or someone! Having him fight every star 3 times in a row, with him losing the first clean then cheating to win the second then getting demolished in the third is absolutely hurting his character in a way I haven't seen in some time. There is a 0% chance Undertaker or Kane would've gotten over if they had Bray's win-loss record.
 
I don't understand why they never at least played on the anti establishment elements that they started doing and mentioned in their final promo prior to joining the main roster. The Wyatt's would have been some of the perfect candidates to "fight the power" but instead gave that fight to people like Cena.
 
Bray Wyatt is hurt and if he's hurt, then there's no reason for Strowman and Rowan being on the show because without their leader, then who will they follow??? i'm sure when Bray's healthy, you'll see the rest of the Wyatts (except Luke Harper, who's also injured). they didnt disappear for no reason, Bray's just injured and WWE likely thinks that the Wyatt Family is only so good when Bray is with them.
 
I don't understand why they never at least played on the anti establishment elements that they started doing and mentioned in their final promo prior to joining the main roster. The Wyatt's would have been some of the perfect candidates to "fight the power" but instead gave that fight to people like Cena.

Who's to say that wouldn't have happened at some point in time? Wyatt hasn't passed away he is injured, lot's of time for him to come back and for a number of storylines to take place.

Last time I saw him in the ring he was standing up to a heelish Roman Reigns I believe, so you never know. Turning the Wyatt's face for a while might be the bit of fresh air they need.
 
That's the problem right there - the possibilities for them are not endless. I have said it for a long time - people are in love with concept of the Wyatt Family but the reality is they are jobbers. How can someone be relevant when they lose every major angle they are in? Yeah, they gang attack someone and seem big and tough but when the big ppv match happens, they lose almost 100% of the time. How is someone like that considered a threat? wwe has had that happen for years now to the point where they are not relevant because you know they are going to come up short. And you can't say wins don't matter because they do in order to build someone up. If Wyatt lost a match but the other guy was out for months afterwards, that would be one thing but here you have guys who lose and their opponents walk away like nothing happened. How long can that happen and you still take them seriously? Truthfully, these injuries might be the best thing because it gets them off tv for a while - maybe wwe can try and rebuild of better yet repackage because right now the Wyatt's are a joke and I don't see why any opponent would be worreid about them.

Lost every feud?-

-Daniel Bryan. If the Wyatts won this feud, they would be booed out of the building, because this was the height of the "Yes Movement".

-John Cena. Yes, the Wyatts came out short in this.

-Chris Jericho- I believe that Jericho put Bray over, and Jericho loses more PPV matches than Bray has.

-Ryback- It was Ryback who was buried by Bray in their sole, forgettable PPV match.

-The Undertaker at WM31- Wouldn't beat Taker at Mania after Brock did it the previous year.

-Dean Ambrose- Bray won every match between the two of them.

-Roman Reigns- I believe that their feud had them exchange wins.

Yes, Bray may have a spotty record, but not a bad record. It could be better, but I think Bray has HUGE potential going forward, and could be, as HBk described him in a podcast, "The 21st Century Undertaker". Bray could be the new guy to do Last Ride Matches, Casket Matches and Buried Alive matches, which were Taker match types.
 
I know most wrestlers and wrestling fans think of wins, losses and titles that make a wrestler successful but Bray came in talking about exposing and converting people. They haven't done any of that. It is the same three dudes and a new dude no one knew about beforehand. Not a single WWE veteran has really taken up the Wyatt cause. The only one who came close was faking it.

Wins, losses, and titles never mattered to the group from their own or the fans perspective. Accomplishments like turning a wrestler evil or getting the fans to turn against that wrestler were the things that the Wyatts needed to do to maintain their mojo. Unfortunately it never happened.

The Wyatts win or lose just like any other wrestler, I think for the fans they expected and wanted more which has made them feel like a failure after three years.

Edit: They also never did anything interesting with the mystery of Sister Abigail. That is a huge disappointment.
 
I don't understand why they never at least played on the anti establishment elements that they started doing and mentioned in their final promo prior to joining the main roster. The Wyatt's would have been some of the perfect candidates to "fight the power" but instead gave that fight to people like Cena.

It would be cool if the Wyatts were the ones to finally overthrow the Authority, turning Triple H and Steph face, and then the Wyatts take over WWE, and are even more tyrannical, and run WWE using fear to keep everyone in line, until someone stands up to them.
 
I know most wrestlers and wrestling fans think of wins, losses and titles that make a wrestler successful but Bray came in talking about exposing and converting people. They haven't done any of that. It is the same three dudes and a new dude no one knew about beforehand. Not a single WWE veteran has really taken up the Wyatt cause. The only one who came close was faking it.

Wins, losses, and titles never mattered to the group from their own or the fans perspective. Accomplishments like turning a wrestler evil or getting the fans to turn against that wrestler were the things that the Wyatts needed to do to maintain their mojo. Unfortunately it never happened.

The Wyatts win or lose just like any other wrestler, I think for the fans they expected and wanted more which has made them feel like a failure after three years.

Edit: They also never did anything interesting with the mystery of Sister Abigail. That is a huge disappointment.

The one guy who came close, was Daniel Bryan, and you can thank the fans for that, since their carry-on forced WWE to turn him face and abandon the storyline (making the Wyatts) look like fools, instead of Vince staying the course and having Bryan have a long run with the Wyatts. He could have been interesting in the group, but then, the "Yes Movement" threatened to boycott Wrestlemania XXX unless they got their way. So blame them for ruining things.
 
The gimmick is still great, it really is, but Bray isn't a threat. He hasn't lost all his matches, far from it, he's put on some top contests but perception is everything - we don't perceive him as a threat. He's got the three beardy amigos with him, it's like having the brothers of destruction backing you up and STILL not being able to dominate. And that's what he should do, he should dominate, ruin people, strike fear and run amok but he doesn't. He says some things and gets beat in the end. All mouth and no trousers.

What's happened?

Bray and the Wyatt's have lost their mystique.
They have not come good on their promises.
They're beset by injuries and off telly, presumably so we forget what a clusterf*ck they made of the whole thing and they can bring them back to start the whole sorry charade again.
 
Bray and Luke are both injured right now, but Bray is due back soon. Luke will not be back til early fall. I like the Wyatt's but they should turn face and feud with A.J, Anderson and Gallows. If you keep them heels have them feud with The New Day. I heard a while ago that Eric was leaving after his contract was up, but now there has been nothing said about that lately. With Luke out for quite a while have Bray bring in Baron Corbin to go with Braun and Eric and if Eric does leave go with Bray, Braun, Baron and bring up someone from NXT but I am not sure who.
 
Wyatts will return at MITB to save Cena from The Club. Wyatts and The Club then feud. It's fresh and can give some solid matches, especially AJ and Bray. Bray also can carry the feud on the mic if need be.
 

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