The WWE have mucked up again

[Colin~M~SYT]

last night on raw charlie haas kissed lilian garcia, but why is the wwe doing this when everybody knows charlie haas is maried to tna's jackie gayda, and what makes it even worse is the fact the a month back the wwe posted on their web-site that haas and gayda are expecting a baby... lol

 

[Smokeydogg]

it's called acting

 

[Banned Dysturbed]

last night on raw charlie haas kissed lilian garcia, but why is the wwe doing this when everybody knows charlie haas is maried to tna's jackie gayda, and what makes it even worse is the fact the a month back the wwe posted on their web-site that haas and gayda are expecting a baby... lol

The fact that he's married yet acting like an ass could potentially further him as a heel if WWE wanted to go in that direction so being married yet doing that kind of thing on television wouldn't be far fetched. However they won't likely go in that direction for a reason so obvious that it shouldn't have to be explained being. Just becuase WWE.com has some information about reality doesn't mean that reality has to be duplicated on television. WWE trust that we as fans are smart enough to understand that what we're watching on television is entertainment and trust that we understand the difference between a character and that character's portrayer, even if the character and portrayer share the same name and even if we are subjected to information about both.

 

[Colin~M~SYT]

The fact that he's married yet acting like an ass could potentially further him as a heel if WWE wanted to go in that direction so being married yet doing that kind of thing on television wouldn't be far fetched. However they won't likely go in that direction for a reason so obvious that it shouldn't have to be explained being. Just becuase WWE.com has some information about reality doesn't mean that reality has to be duplicated on television. WWE trust that we as fans are smart enough to understand that what we're watching on television is entertainment and trust that we understand the difference between a character and that character's portrayer, even if the character and portrayer share the same name and even if we are subjected to information about both.

Do they not want us to think its real?

 

[peopleschamp]

Do they not want us to think its real?

Not any more necessarily. WWE has already moved past the age of "kayfabe" and entered the age of "sports entertainment," but I'm sure you already know that. "Believability" is no longer such a big deal in the WWE, as the emphasis is now on "Entertainment."

 

[Colin~M~SYT]

ok

 

[EC MF'N W]

I think you guys read to much into it. I think they wanted us to view it as just a ploy to have Viscera get mad. I don't think they wanted us to see anything romantic in it.

 

[The Masked Vato]

I think you guys read to much into it. I think they wanted us to view it as just a ploy to have Viscera get mad. I don't think they wanted us to see anything romantic in it.

Exactly. If you looked at Lillian, she was not into it at all. This was just to get Charlie over as a heel, and possibly build some kind of feud.

 

[Colin~M~SYT]

Its good that Haas is turning heel, he get's no crowd reaction at all as a face.

 

[Colin~M~SYT]

But if Haas never knocked Lilian off the apron a few weeks ago do you think he would still have turned heel?

 

[EC MF'N W]

No. The whole accident ended up being a posotive for him. But, this fued really is very boring in my opinion. Viscera vs Charlie Hass? Who cares. There not going to put on a good match any time soon. Give thier TV time to guys like Shelton Benjamin and Matt Striker.

By the way if you don't know Matt Striker is an extremley entertaining wrestler when he wrestles as a heel.

 

[deux4hm]

There are still many ...MANY fans who do no follow Wrestling as mucha s some of us do. Sites and mags and spoilers and "true realationships". Thats why the wwe could get away with story lines like this. Either way, your right..its entertainment. I for one think a heel turn is exactly what hass needed.

 

[Undertaker]

Keep in mind these car writers are Hollywierd writers.

Most of Hollywood thinks normal people like us are clueless and don't know what we want.

Hence the crappy storyline with Haas. They need to put Haas in a good angle. He is a good wrestler. Its sad to see this happen to him.

 

[Colin~M~SYT]

Keep in mind these car writers are Hollywierd writers.

Most of Hollywood thinks normal people like us are clueless and don't know what we want.

Hence the crappy storyline with Haas. They need to put Haas in a good angle. He is a good wrestler. Its sad to see this happen to him.

Exactly. Haas should have got a push when Shelton moved to RAW in 2004, at the time Shelton's career took a turn for the best he beat Triple H in his first RAW match now to the fans that will make an impression, now with Shelton & Haas gone their seperate ways you would think Charlie Haas would defeat somebody like John Cena, JBL, Eddie Guerrero or Kurt Angle to give his career a boost. But that was far from the case instead the WWE didnt know what to for him so they put him in some storyline involving a love triangle with Jackie Gayda and Dawn Marie. Then in May 2005 he gets paired up with Hardcore Holly to take on the new Tag Team Champions MNM at Judgment Day, only to lose. Next month what do you know him and his wife get fired only for Haas to return a year later and accidently knock Lilian Garcia off the apron, putting him in to 'another' love triangle with Big Vis and Lilian.
It looks like Carlito will be feuding with Nitro so Shelton wont be challeging Nitro for the I.C belt so why not put Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin in a fued or better yet reunite them.

 

[Undertaker]

Agreed Colin!

Haas and now Shelton are being wasted away on Raw.

There are no better wrestlers on the roster than those 2. Haas and Benjamin were college wrestlers. Haas came from Seton Hall and I think Shelton came from Minnesota.

I mean come on! Both are decent on the mic, so why not push them instead of holding them back and giving belts to unworthy guys like RVD and EDGE?

 

[Colin~M~SYT]

I would like to see this happen in the next 3 months......
Haas and Shelton reunite, they win the the tag titles off of the SS at Saturday night's Main Event. For a month they have problems on getting along and Shelton screws up in a match against The Highlanders at SummerSlam they drop the titles to The Highlanders, after the match Haas slaps Shelton in The face and the next night on RAW the problems are resolved back stage and they get a rematch for the belts and lose after Haas walks out on Shelton. Johnny Nitro comes out the next week and says he's sick of this BS and he wants them in a triple threat match at Unforgiven to prove he's the future and the greatest I.C champion of all time for the so Shelton says he wants his title back and Haas says he wants his first taste of singles gold so, at Unforgiven Shelton wins, only tom lose the belt the next night on RAW in a steel cage match to Charlie Haas. Of course this will never happen. lol. Any ways I'd like to see something like this happen, along those lines anyway.

 

[Undertaker]

lol Good thought Colin.

But you are right, it will never happen. That would be giving some fans what they want.

Instead of Extremly Crappy Wrestling on SciFi!

 

[Colin~M~SYT]

My guess is ECW wont be round for long.

 

[thecruiser]

Originally Posted by Colin~M~SYT
But if Haas never knocked Lilian off the apron a few weeks ago do you think he would still have turned heel?

Exactly. The RAW creative team took advantage of a complete accident and molded it into some sort of big deal. She sprained her hand. Big mother fucking woop. They dont have to make a storyline out of it. They should have just let it slide and just reported it on WWE.com that she was alright. I hate this storyline, obviously.

 

[JohnnyRodz]

"Haas and now Shelton are being wasted away on Raw."

I wonder who the hell Shelton pissed off. Guy is one of the best wrestlers on the Raw roster and not only did he lose the IC Title to that no talent hack Johnny Nitro,but he wasn't even on Raw last night. Priorities in the WWE are definetly screwed up

 

[Colin~M~SYT]

"Haas and now Shelton are being wasted away on Raw."

I wonder who the hell Shelton pissed off. Guy is one of the best wrestlers on the Raw roster and not only did he lose the IC Title to that no talent hack Johnny Nitro,but he wasn't even on Raw last night. Priorities in the WWE are definetly screwed up

Good point I would like to know who Shelton Pissed Off.

 

[lalakerz]

i wish they'd just send Benjamon to smackdown for a WHC oppertunity & reign.

 

[JohnnyRodz]

Good point I would like to know who Shelton Pissed Off.

He had to have pissed off somebody. I'm sorry,not only did the guy lose his title,but apparently he isn't even gonna be in the mix to get it back. I mean what's up with that? Hell,I could have stomached it a little more had Carlito been the guy to win the title,seeing has how they were feuding. But Johnny Nitro? I'm sorry,but I just don't see it with that guy. The only thing he's got going for him is a snazzy ring entrance,and Melinda. And to be honest with you I wish they'd get rid of the divas.

 

[Kain27]

Yes i would like to know too, Shelton Benajamin is my favourtie wrestler and has been since he joined Raw. After watching Vengeance and i was disgusted on how Nitro wins it...WTF!? is up with that and then Shelton is there backstage on Raw but doesnt even get used the whole night. It doesnt seem like they know what they want to do with Shelton Benjamine anymore ever since losing the IC title to Carlito and stoping his 8 and a half month reign they havent done much with him. They turned him into a jobber then he brings in "his mom" and regains the IC title only to lose it shortly after to Nitro...NOw what are they going to do with him? I'm thinking they will use him with Charlie Haas or maybe losing the IC will benefit because we all know he cant win the WWE Championship while holidnd the IC title.

 

[wrestlemaniaxxx]

Hey Colin...

What about HHH and Stephanie McMahon? Isn't Vince his Father-in-Law? And look the DX angle.

HHH is part of the McMahon family and now he is screwing them. lol (Yesterday RAW was funny as hell!)

What I want to say is that this is ENTERTAINMENT. So forget about Haas/Lillian/Vis . It's part of a show!

Regarding Benjamin, I agree with you guys! He had to do something wrong. The guy is one of the best! Remember the Money in the Bank 2? He really shined in that one.

But... in this is business you have to KISS VINCE'S ASS to be on the top. Maybe he isn't an ass kisser.

Got to words for you: LOOK UP! lol