"The WWE has no character development", right? BULLSHIT!

[D-Man]

I've been saying it for months and months... but no one listened. Everyone thinks they know everything. You all continue to follow the track record that the WWE had for years of only focusing on the main event stars:

- A couple of changes happen in the tag division and you say that it's just the WWE putting a bandaid on the problem by "throwing two stars together" giving them titles, and doing nothing to develop new tag teams.

- The women's division gets one good storyline on Smackdown ("Piggy" James) and you all think it's "stupid", "pointless", and the division will fade into obscurity again.

- "The midcard titles have lost their meaning", you all say.

- "The same stars are always in the main event. Midcarders are never given a chance to shine. The WWE keeps holding them back."

Meanwhile, I'm singing the WWE's praises for MONTHS and MONTHS, pointing out all of these things, showing all of you that changes are coming, and all of the nihilists and cynics just came back at me and said, "You're living in a dream world. The WWE doesn't care. Those storylines are shit", when I said that it was all just the beginning. And where are we now? Let me show you.

1. New and Improved Tag Team Division
Let's rewind a bit...

The WWE decided to take two main event stars (Chris Jericho and Edge), throw them together, and strip your versions of a real tag team (The Colons) of their newly Unified Tag Team Titles (that they did absolute dogshit with since they gained them), and the public outcry was overwhelming. "Jericho and Edge aren't even a real tag team! This isn't character development!!" So, we all know the story. Edge gets injured, Big Show comes in, JeriShow dominates for a while, they began feuding with DX, the titles were 'hot-potatoed' for a bit, ShowMiz was formed, and then they dominated for a bit. The Hart Dynasty takes the titles off ShowMiz. For the first time in YEARS, it appears that the division has become something that the people actually care about again.

Enter the Hart Dynasty, Dudebusters, possibly Santino/Koslov, and the Uso's.

We though that the Dudebusters were a joke. I mean, just one "real" tag team in a sea of "thrown-togethers" really won't do much for the division. But then the Hart Dynasty was given the titles. And what was that attack all about? And now the attackers actually cut a promo to introduce themselves?!? Has hell frozen over?? What do you know... we now have a tag team division that people give a shit about!! And who knows what else we can expect and who else will be brought in?? Looks like there's only one direction this division is going - UP.

2. Midcard Titles given storylines and meaning.
"The Intercontinental title is being buried, along with the US Title. Wah, wah, wah..."

We heard that for such a long time. And rightfully so. But once John Morrison took the IC title off Rey Mysterio and the Miz captured the US title, people began to pay attention to those titles and the division again.

Enter Drew McKintyre and R-Truth.

These guys were split between Raw and Smackdown to hold these championships. As we've recently seen, Drew McKintyre has done WONDERS with the IC title on Smackdown right now. His feud with Matt Hardy/Kofi Kingston/Teddy Long has been outstanding thus far. It's not just a one-on-one thing anymore... there are multiple members in this mix that are making this title picture really sing.

And this is just the beginning of R-Truth's push, but can you blame the WWE for giving it to him? The guy is SO fucking over right now. And they gave him a justifiable win. Sure, Bret beat the Miz and took his title. But that was nothing more than a "thank you" to Bret for his comeback. The Miz was right back into the mix again when he was put in that title match with Truth, and Truth won a decisive victory... exactly what he needed. Now, the sky's the limit for him.

EDIT: Ted DiBiase Jr's Million Dollar Championship storyline is really gaining steam, as well. Thank you, Ferbian, for pointing this out.

3. Women's division is finally getting some attention.
Go ahead. Deny it all you want. But the fact of the matter is that this division has been brought back from the dead... hell, the undead. The division was so dead that it was a walking ghost that haunted us from time to time on weekly television. The only "development" that we saw in this division was a bunch of fitness models that "developed" a way to make the division suck out loud even further. For YEARS, all of us were forced to watch botch after botch, abomination after abomination, and horrific, meaningless tag match after tag match on Raw and Smackdown, wasting television time for other members of the roster and giving us all extended piss breaks.

Enter Team Laycool and Eve Torres.

I know that this division never draws big money, but at least it's not a complete waste of time now. The storylines being built around Eve and Team Laycool have been pretty impressive, considering the shit that's been thrown at us for years with these beautiful women. Now we might not change the channel when their matches come on. Hell, they're even given PROMO TIME both in and out of the ring. Who knows, we might start to give more than two shits about this division soon. But in the meantime, as long as the WWE keeps developing female stars like Layla El and Eve Torres, they might be onto something. And let's not forget about Tamina and Natalia... they'll be thrown into the women's title mix eventually, I'm sure.

4. The main event scene has finally changed and midcard pushes ARE happening.
How many more times could we have seen Cena vs. Edge/Orton/Batista/HHH before puking in our own mouths?? We almost couldn't even imagine a main event without the same 5 or 6 men participating in it. The whole scene just got so redundant and boring, and it looked like the beginning of the end.

Enter Sheamus, Jack Swagger, CM Punk, and EVAN BOURNE?!?!

Yup, that wasn't a typo. These guys were all in midcard limbo. All four came from the reincarnated ECW (that you all incessantly shit on for being a so-called "waste of time".) Once they were moved to Raw, you all thought they'd be buried in the mix of the unchangeable main event scene. I'm sure you're all glad that you're wrong.

Now three of these men have gone on to win respectable world championships against world-class contenders. And one of them was surprisingly thrown into the main event mix last night on Raw and did a HELL of a job during his match, if I may say so myself. The entire landscape of this division had changed, and we've all gotten what we've been craving. What more could we ask for?

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I constantly got ridiculed for continuously praising the WWE and all of these changes. They'd never follow through with it all. The small changes that began to take place weren't making an impact on the product. Nobody gave a shit.

And I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, right? Try and prove me wrong now.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I agree. I look at the WWE in 2010 and I've seen dramatic improvements across the board. I'm not saying that the product is perfect, but anybody expecting perfection is going to be waiting until they grow mushrooms in their cracks. Hell, I'm even finding myself enjoying the Divas much more than I used to. They're not great, but they're actually tolerable to watch now. Young wrestlers are being built, the mid-card scene on both shows is interesting, same with the main event scene, new faces are popping up and being given chances to shine.

Of course, the haters still have the PG rating to harp on, but those arguments are really becoming weak. You can have quality and be PG just as you can have quality at TV-14. As long as you've got quality, I really don't give a shit what your rating is.

 

[Ferbian]

I completely agree with you D, especially in the mid-card, I'd somewhat count Ted DiBiase's Million Dollar Championship as a mid-card championship, even if he's not letting anybody contend for it, it's still a championship.

WWE has improved everything a lot as of late, they have really upped everything, and made the show what RAW and SmackDown should feel like again, two great shows of entertainment and wrestling.

The tag team division has gotten new champions, and a legitimate championship team of both legacy and credibility in every damn thinkable way with their background in wrestling (Hart Dynasty obviously) and the Uso's being added to the situation who is 4th generation wrestlers (and the girl, I sadly already forgot her name.. but she's the daughter of Snuka I know that).
And to add to the tag team division, I don't see why people cry over the mashed together tag teams, it's quite obvious that Chris Jericho and Big Show were a great team, Edge and Chris Jericho would've been a great team, and they were both smacked together one night.

The mid-card is getting good feuds, while CM Punk and Rey Mysterio aren't exactly fighting over a championship, they're still upper mid-carders, fighting on the mid-card of pay per views, and they're doing amazing with their feud. The Miz is doing great with his things of back and forth material variating a lot.
I find it hard to place any critique on the mid-card as of late with the exception of a lot of talent not doing much, but the fact that we're getting meaningful characters in Ted DiBiase, R-Truth, The Miz etc. justifies it all in my opinion.

How can you cry over the women's division? especially now, we've had crappy female wrestling for a longer period of time, and now we got two good storylines between Eve and Maryse (it's mediocre, but it's above the standard shit we see every now and then) and LayCool who had a great feud with Mickie, Beth and ultimately their new storyline of co-women's champions.

The main event picture is freshening up on Smackdown especially, Evan Bourne would be a mistake to credit as anything just yet, but none the less he got to fight with the current and future stars of the business (Sheamus is a future star, not too much a current.. yet).
Smackdown is doing good in giving new talent something fresh to do in WWE, giving a guy like CM Punk another go in the main event picture at Fatal Four Way, having come off from a great feud with Rey Mysterio.
And who are we really to cry over John Cena holding the championship still? we want RAW and WWE to do good as fans don't we? John Cena equals ratings and ratings equals money, money equals good for business.

There's not much wrong with WWE right now, there's of course always gonna be something that can improve, nothing is perfect, not even people's precious Attitude Era, it wasn't perfect, TNA isn't perfect, WCW wasn't perfect, NWA wasn't perfect, The Hulkamania Era wasn't perfect, need I continue?

 

[Bobby B]

I think we're just finally beginning to see the fruits of the work laid down over the past 6 months or so.

Two (three with the Dudebusters) proper tag teams. Proper in the sense that they have their own enterance theme, similar look, valet and finishing manouvre.

It is worth noting with the tag division we have seen this all before - plenty of tag teams have come in, had a title reign, been split up, and never seen again. I'm not saying it will happen, but we cannot say that it won't.

The women's division - yes fantastic, but why do it now that there is zero talent in the division. There's been a few pretty decent wrestlers in the past couple of years, and the second they finally start to take it seriously there is no talent left.

 

[16mikeytot]

Yeah gotta agree with you D in my mind the mid-card is only going to improve with people like Daniel Bryan and Evan Bourne (finally getting a push). But on the subject of main-eventers such as Swagger and Sheamus they were just shoved down our throats. Neither one of them actually had a solid build up before becoming world champions. As for the tag team division it's improved by having actually tag teams now. But theirs only three tag teams I world like the division to have around six. As for the divas division. Does anyone really care?

 

[ian_d]

well, in perspective, WWE has made vast improvements on its product. everyones shushed up over sheamus moving up the ladder too fast, as he has proven himself to be able to hold his ground. the mid card seems to have a meaning to it, however there are so many unanswered questions from time to time (mainly how mysterio has had kane help him for no real reason at otl.) the womens division has some new life in it, and with the big names missing like james, melina and pheonix, this is only going to help when the injured two return. my big issue still remains to be the tag team division. yes its improved and thank god it has. we have the hart dynasty and they are holding it all together. i mean the uso's have only been on tv two weeks, lets not get carried away with them just yet. also the dudebusters i dont believe have won. at all. thats not productive. so really, though it has been looking very good, the tag team needs some depth so that maybe the dudebusters can beat someone, and after this uso/hart feud, both tag teams will have someone to go against. how about if we throw two random people together, will that work?

 

[The Ram]

I've said along time ago in another thread that I didn't mind mashed up tag teams. As long I was entertained I was just fine with it. WWE has been trying you put more tag teams in and so far they are suceeding with it. We have another somaoan tag team along with Jimmy Snuka's daughter ( the WWE should think about bringing back Manu and Sim Snuka) and then we have Hart Dynasty, Dude Busters, Hawkins and Archer and probably (don't know if they are still teaming together) Miz and Jericho.

The mid card is getting better too. Zack Ryder is gettting mic time which doesnt normally happen and is doin all right. They are pushing R truth on Raw. They have Ted Dibiase Jr. getting mic time and winning matches and since he go t his trust fund they have him acting alot like his father which is a good storyline. Then we have Evan Bourne possibly getting a push. But we have to realize that WWE hasn't officially established it. I mean Mark Henry has been in the main event on raw before I believe and he hasn't been built as a major superstar so we have to realize that the WWE has to still go through with Evan Bourne being built as an upper mid carder.

Then I've also been in love with the laycool thing and they also have Vicky Guerrero with them and you know she draws alot of heat. Then the co-women champion thing that they have.

 

[mral82]

I Agree with u D, The reason why the WWE is finally givin out a great product now is that when The NFL season starts the know they'll lose viewers. Cause in reality the real competition is Monday Night Foootball not the UFC, TNA or anybody else. I say everybody should be tested in the Main Event picture to see if the can sink or swim. Cena proved from his debut against Angle that he deserves to be there.

 

[ITrippedTheShockmaster]

I think it's great that the powers that be in WWE have finally decided to spruce up the company in terms of respective pushes and revitalizing title scenes.

D's right in that the WWE's tag-team division is FINALLY becoming something worth watching again. For so long, WWE has left the tag-team division to lay there and flop around like a dead fish, with main eventers teaming up from time to time. But the whole Tag Title thing started coming back with the ShowMiz and Jerishow angles. Now, with The Hart Dynasty and the Usos (which looks to be a great feud in the making), the Dudebusters (who will get their chance soon) and a few other teams in the making (Santino and Koslov could be a good comic relief team). With so many teams coming up on both shows, they may need to break up the Unified Tag belts and bring them back to their respective shows, depending on how they want to focus the tag-team division. But it is getting better, which I like.

The mid-card belts are also becoming relevant once again. Like the tag-team titles, they kind of got left by the wayside when WWE made the big main-event push for guys like Cena, Batista, HHH, Edge and others a few years ago. One guy would hold onto a mid-card belt and no one would notice that he wouldn't defend it in the famous "30-day period." Now, both mid-card titles are getting pretty good play. The Intercontinental title picture is pretty good with Drew McIntyre (as long as he can continue his push), Matt Hardy, Kofi Kingston and a few others. McIntyre's angle with Teddy Long has been interesting. Meanwhile, the U.S. Title is becoming a hot commodity. R-Truth (the next Cena?), the Miz (holding his own after even I doubted him) and now it looks like Chris Jericho may be dropping down for some mid-card time. Remember the time when the mid-card title holder was the No. 1 contender for the world title? You may see that come back.

And bravo for the push of Evan Bourne last night! It's about time. He was going to the next big sensation in WWE when they brought him over from ECW. However, he got buried for a while before coming out of the blue last night on RAW. Is he a main eventer yet? Probably not, but I think this was a test to see if he could last against the main-event guys (remember when he got squashed by Sheamus a while back? I do.) I see a U.S. Title in his future, but not quite weekly main-event material just yet.

Also, I'm reading these house show events and seeing Wade Barrett pop up. A little foreshadowing to tonight's NXT winner, perhaps? I think he will get it, with Daniel Bryan also getting his shot b/c of the Cole/Miz angle (what happened with the "Bryan Danielson" mention he made in his elimination interview? They're still referring to him as Daniel Bryan! Make up your minds!) I think you'll see two or three of the NXT guys end up with WWE in some capacity. My picks - Barrett, Bryan and maybe Otunga.

 

[realdealasshole]

I've got a couple issues with this. Tag team division is still crap. Just cuz you have three or four tag teams with people who still have not been around for a long enough time to get the fans completely into it does not mean you have a good tag team division.

As for the midcard division.....the U.S. title lost all it's meaning when it was won by Bret Hart who can't even wrestle anymore and then given up the next week. What a joke.

 

[RVDgurl]

I like the WWE, but as a general rule, I prefer smaller wrestling promotions. I loved ECW and ROH has been my wrestling haven for the past 4 years. I'm probably more critical of the WWE at times than is rightfully deserved, but I thoroughly enjoy when the WWE gives me something good. And over the past few months, the WWE isn't doing a hell of alot wrong. Currently:

1. The Diva's division are blowing the TNA Knockouts out of the water, even though TNA has more talent. The Diva's have more developed characters, better storylines and are able to string together solid matches.

2. The WWE has begun pushing new talent. Jack Swagger is the current World Champion on Smackdown, Sheamus has been a main event fixture on RAW since December and we actually saw Evan Bourne work a main event on RAW last night.

3. The WWE is currently working the most interesting and entertaining storyline in wrestling with the Bryan Danielson/Michael Cole thing. Yeah, I'm partial to anything involving Danielson, but this storyline is pure genius on the part of the WWE.

 

[D-Man]

Oh my God... what was I thinking?!?!? How could I leave out the greatest storyline happening in the WWE right now, hands down: Michael Cole vs. Daniel Bryan Danielson!!!

There's not much more I need to explain about this feud. As a matter of fact, there is a thread dedicated to the feud in the NXT section (where it belongs). But I will say this - it just might be the best piece of writing (besides the HBK/Taker WM feuds) that the WWE has pulled off in the past 5 years at least.

Therefore, not only is the WWE developing new talents, improving dead divisions, and creating killer stories, they're also creating new television programming and bridging the gap between pro-wrestling and the mainstream. Between the creation of NXT, the rise of David Otunga, and the guest host concept (that is both a blessing AND a curse for the WWE), they're really rising to the occasion and stifling their critics.

I love this shit.

 

[Slack]

Well I still hate the Cole/Bryan storyline. Also you all forgot Hawkins and Archer as a tag team.

And there is nothing wrong with thrown together tag teams, look at the two most successful tag teams in recent memory, The New Age Outlaws and the Team 3D. Both were basically thrown together.

 

[Ferbian]

Yes certainly they're closing the gap between the mainstream casual fans and the die hard wrestling fans, but I think for it to become a proper success using Otunga, they need him to either win NXT, or to do something meaningful to say the least, where as the guest hosting of RAW is basically the most meaningful he has accomplished, and the ratings died that evening.

But I do agree, the WWE in the past year's time to be honest has been putting on killer stories, the two rounds of Shawn Michaels and Undertaker, the Jeff Hardy / CM Punk feud and creation of the Straight Edge Society, and ultimately Daniel Bryan vs Michael Cole.

And with a little bit of luck we may very well be seeing something that does have (at least a bit of it) potential to become a good storyline with Dolph Ziggler and Vickie Guerrero.

SmackDown has upped itself a lot since becoming what seems more like the breeding ground for people to become upper mid-carders / main event talent, I just think it's a little saddening we only have Big Show as the only "credible" talent to be putting anybody into the main event on SmackDown, due to the inactivity of Undertaker (who will most likely be out due to the injuries he sustained against Rey Mysterio)

 

[wushady]

The WWE are always going to have naysayers and critics finding something wrong with the current product. I for one have enjoyed both Raw and Smackdown a lot more recently. I think D MAN hit the nail on the head with his thread starter.

They have built up every division even the tag team and divas are exciting again. Hell they have even made Michael Cole interesting with his feud with Bryan Danielson. I think it's a great move they're pushing new guys in the mid card and main event.

I don't think they're to concerned with TNA, but they know there and they know they need to keep their product fresh and exciting. WWE has always been the top dog when comes to character development. Back in the day WCW had only really built up a couple original stars i.e. Goldberg DDP. They just had a bunch of stars WWE created.

In my opinion TNA needs to learn how to build characters among many other things if they're ever going to compete with WWE. I think pushing R Truth is a good thing for many reasons. One being it shows TNA talent if they jump ship. They may have to prove themselves, but the could eventually be top stars.

 

[CuddleBuns84]

I think WWE has made huge step ups after Wrestlemania. Shawn Michaels retiring, and HHH taking time off has opened up a lot more story lines and air time for other performers.

With Edge and Jericho going to raw, it really gives the mid-card more meaning. It also gives the main event picture extra to work with. Bret Hart as the new GM will fizzle out after 3 months, but, it's helping the tag team division. Because you have the Hart Dynasty, and the USOs. So more air time for those guys as well.

Even the woman's division has gotten a step up. Eve Torres is great on the camera, and is I can understand her a lot better in her promos then Mayrse. Plus, they gave her kind of a real man's woman gimmick. Someone fun, and attractive. Something that appeals to male wrestling group. Gave it some more Attention.

I'm kind of excited to see Triple H make a return to the new product. I think that will boost things up as well. Not also that, but Evan Bourne got a huge win last night. He could have a PPV match with Ryder, which isn't much, but could build his character a little bit more.

Not also that, but Sanito is looking like he is starting a comedic tag team. And the rumors about Morrison coming back, and joining the Miz again, could mean another tag team. Tag Team high quality feuds. A mid-card starting to shine. I'm thinking this summer will be a great thing for the WWE.

 

[Bobby B]

The other thing I might add to the "character development" debate is - how many "characters" are the WWE now creating?

Nearly every wrestler comes up wrestling under their own name, with no disernable gimmick (OK, given that we've witnessed Jillian with the growth, and Matt Morgan, amongst others) - but a lot of them are a bit lifeless.

Where is the next Undertaker or Kane?

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Oh my God... what was I thinking?!?!? How could I leave out the greatest storyline happening in the WWE right now, hands down: Michael Cole vs. Daniel Bryan Danielson!!!

Yeah, I can't believe that I forgot about it either. Watching this thing with The Miz/Danielson/Cole progress and build slowly has really been a lot of fun. A few weeks ago, when they started kicking it into gear, I got butterflies in my stomach. Once the first segment featuring Cole and Danielson ended and NXT went to commercial a few weeks ago, the first thought that literally just sprung into my head was "That's better than anything I've seen out of TNA in the past 6 months easily."

 

[punk is gold]

I agree with almost everything that D-Man said except for the part about wwe pushing cm punk ,it seems the better he gets on the microphone the more he loses,in the feud with mysterio he was buried on pay per view besides extreme rules which he needed interference to win

 

[Kliq]

There is no denying that what the OP said is true. The problem I still have with the WWE that keeps me from taking it serious (or enjoying it at all really) is that the "characters" that they have developed are not appealing. No one stands out. Stars may have been 'pushed' to the main event, but none of them feel ready to be there. For me, it still feels like the main event is full of mid carders + Cena/Orton/Edge. And not being a fan of the three actual main eventers WWE actually has = one disappointed fan.

Don't get me wrong, I love Jack Swagger, I just don't see him in the Main Event. What do I like? NXT. I love this because none of the guys on that show suddenly appeared and were handed the title. They are all working for a long time on a C-class show on television. It doesn't matter how long Sheamus will be with the company, I will always see him as a nothing who was given an early chance and hasn't impressed me in the least.

 

[goldbergiswrestling]

I completely agree, I still am not interested in the womens division but other than that I agree. I gotts give WWE its due, no we dont have the blood and what not with the pg rating but finally WWE is giving us an entertaining product, Im really looking forward to the finale of NXT tonight (rootin for Wade Barrett). Im not real familier with the independent scene real well so I was greatly anticipating seeing daniel(son) and I have to say at first I didnt get the hype, but for a guy without "the look" he has some good charisma. I acctually care about the tag team division now and I think that the Uso's got some good heel heat last night and Im impressed with them so far. Midcard titles are good, I see it really boostin R-Truth to raws main event in a year or two.

 

[Exodus]

Gotta say D-Man, I've read a lot on these forums before I started posting, and yours never fail to deliver. I think you got this dead on.

 

[GameOver]

I agree for most of what OP said, except that the US/IC titles are only just starting to gain som level or respect again after being almost no existant for 6 years.

Now while yes developement is obviously happening now that many main eventers keep getting injured..

For all the naysayers, have to see it from a business point of view. The ultimate goal is to get new stars in for the future but who do you select to pump your money into?

in the last decade the following examples have been pushed to the moon and failed or fell off the wagon.

* RVD - given a world title and within a week was arressted for drug possession.

* Shelton Benjamin, moves to RAW and gets a push and it doesn't take look for him top not seem to care and his mic work never imporved.

* Jeff Hardy - gets a singles push, soon as it gets like hard work he quits and goes to TNA, returns they give him another chance (drugs), give him a 3rd chance and once again he decides it's too much like hard work

* Brock Lesnar - Slated as the next best thing, everyone did there darndest to make it happen, and he couldn't handle the exposure

* Numerous Diva's that were brought into bump the system soon after wanted out or in one case never wanted to be there in the first place

Obviously thats just a few

On the flip side the guys/gals that people moan are holding everyone back, which that is partially true they are defending there spot which is understandable i'd love to see someone who truly believes that if you were in a job you would happily let the kids take over and just goto the background til you fade away. PFFT YEAH RIGHT!!!!! Help[ing to build a future is different to letting new blood have rule of the roost and watch them destroy what you helped build

Anyway, so your Triple H's, Takers, Shawn Michaes, Jericho etc. they've alway been money drawers and always will. and the biggest thing is THEY ARE RELIABLE.

While all these flash in the pans come iin and fade away, the guys from the Attitude era and b4 are still there working. Thats the selling point.

In final to quote a failed WCW storyline F.U.N.B prove yourself for more than a few years and maybe someone will give you a go.

CM Punk, Kofi, Ted Dibiase, The Miz just for a few examples are guys that are proving themselves the right way.

 

[Nate DaMac]

I agree with almost everything that D-Man said except for the part about wwe pushing cm punk ,it seems the better he gets on the microphone the more he loses,in the feud with mysterio he was buried on pay per view besides extreme rules which he needed interference to win

There's no real need to push Punk anymore. I feel he has reached the height of his popularity and he will be a mainstay in the ME scene for a few more years to come. I don't know if you're aware of this, but he IS in the Fatal 4way Main Event and he's getting a title shot. I think your definition on being buried is slightly wrong. Just because he lost a couple PPV matches doesn't mean he's getting buried. He still gets more mic time then most of the roster on Smackdown. He's not the kind of performer who needs to be pushed to the forefront of the show all the time, shit he's already a 3 time World Champion. How much more does he need to be pushed?

I've noticed that you tend to put a lot of focus on whether or not people win matches. I've heard you complain about it with Punk and Jericho. Do you really think shit like this matters? In terms of kayfabe, both of them are still considered to be highly reputable and can win any given match at any given moment. As for real life, it's a fucking scripted program.

And so you know, if you have anything to say, I will not reply until you learn to use proper grammar. Not to be a dick, but you tend to dumb down a lot of these threads.

As for the Main point, I really have to agree with D-Man. I wasn't entirely satisfied with the Main Event scene until this past week. I'm not saying that I think Bourne should be considered a Main Event level guy, but I like it when a random Mid Carder is given the chance to shine on a bigger stage. I wouldn't mind seeing this shit happen a little more often. It could turn out to be a great way to test waters with the younger crop and see who has staying power.

Still think the Women's Division is shit though. Just get rid of it completely.

 

[TheAnimal]

The problem is the short attention span they have when it comes to this re: Kofi Kingston. Its more promising this time though because its a lot of people at once. As long as they dont feed them to Cena 1 by 1 it looks good.
Its promising too that they have the whole future thing and youth drive. This could indicate the change in the programming. Obviously the old guys are retiring and taking hiatuses etc. Maybe they had to let it run to be so bad that all they could do for Mania 25 was rehash stuff and with HBK retiring they perhaps realised is not long before others will too and Cenas not got many challengers left.
I think maybe this is the effect TNA has had. Its like look at us, we're the anti-TNA. They have people aged 40-60 dominating their feuds/programming and we have new young exciting guys. Even though TNA is a lot smaller, they do not want to lose anything to them. Hopefully it continues and wasnt just the reaction to the Monday Night Wars.