The Sports Bar

[Buffalo Dave]

Does anybody think that LeBron is the player holding the Heat back??? It seems that the team goes as he goes and he's not going right now. He needs to play every game like he played against the Pistons in the playoffs in 06-07

Gonna have to say NO! Bron is second in the league in scoring, damn near averaging a triple double a game. He basically plays the pg for them. Lack of having depth on the bench, and not having a consistent center is hurting them. Plus Bosh sucks on D, and has been real iffy on the offensive side as well.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Wade is the most important. When he was struggling earlier in the season, the Heat struggle. Bosh was never a good fit because he's basically Kevin Garnett pre-Minnesota. He likes to take jump shots. That's not going to cut it.

 

[SSJPhenom]

I don't think that the blame can be placed on one single person here for the Heat.

Bosh has never been good on D, so what were you guys expecting from him?

Wade and James and doing what they do best and that's scoring and making plays. They're playing the way that they always did.

The blame has to go with the lack of bench depth and with not having a good center.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Damn, Rutgers got screwed.

 

[Stormtrooper]

It's official. The NFL Players Association has decertified. It looks like this will be settled in court, and not in Collective Bargaining.

 

[Buffalo Dave]

Lost a third of The French Connection and a Sabre great today, Rick Martin died of a heart attack while driving. Real shitty way to go, first by having a heart attack, then to have one while driving. RIP Rick.

 

[Big Sexy]

I can't wait for Thursday. A day full of drinking for St. Patrick's day and a day full of basketball as the first round of the NCAA tournament starts

 

[Stormtrooper]

I can't wait for Thursday. A day full of drinking for St. Patrick's day and a day full of basketball as the first round of the NCAA tournament starts

You know what that also means?

GUS MUTHERFUCKING JOHNSON! Combine Gus Johnson announcing sports and drinking, and that right there is what we call AWESOME!

 

[Pepe Silvia]

Larry Johnson > Gus Johnson

 

[772Attitude]

Not looking to promising for the NFL right now.

 

[Megatron]

What is this doing on the bottom of the 2nd page?

With the SDL done, I was thinking of starting a thread series to give the section a spark. Anyone think these ideas would work?:

-Top 10 dynasties of past 20 years
-Top 10 players of past 20 years
-Greatest player by team
-Greatest upsets ever
-Greatest individual seasons ever

Anyone catch your guys' eyes?

 

[Stormtrooper]

What is this doing on the bottom of the 2nd page?

With the SDL done, I was thinking of starting a thread series to give the section a spark. Anyone think these ideas would work?:

-Top 10 dynasties of past 20 years
-Top 10 players of past 20 years
-Greatest player by team
-Greatest upsets ever
-Greatest individual seasons ever

Anyone catch your guys' eyes?

Dynasties yes.
players of 20 years no
player by team hell yes (of course depending on the team, I really don't care for "best Devil Ray" or "best University of New Mexico basketball player")
upsets ever not as much, maybe recent (10-20 years) upsets though.
individual seasons again not as much (maybe more if divided up by sport).

 

[Megatron]

Dynasties yes.
players of 20 years no
player by team hell yes (of course depending on the team, I really don't care for "best Devil Ray" or "best University of New Mexico basketball player")
upsets ever not as much, maybe recent (10-20 years) upsets though.
individual seasons again not as much (maybe more if divided up by sport).

I was thinking of doing dynasties first, so I'll probably start it off tonight with 10.

And with the player by team I was referring to the big four pro sports (although hockey would be tough for me because I don't follow it and know much about it's history) and maybe some bigger colleges (Duke Basketball, USC Football, etc.)

I'm open for other suggestions as well.

 

[Stormtrooper]

And with the player by team I was referring to the big four pro sports (although hockey would be tough for me because I don't follow it and know much about it's history) and maybe some bigger colleges (Duke Basketball, USC Football, etc.)

I figured as such. I was just thinking of something so inconsequential that I wouldn't give a crap about the thread.

I'm open for other suggestions as well.

Why would I give YOU suggestions, when I could start a thread series?.....

When you do the top players by team, I don't want to sound bias but the Yankees could be a good start. Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, Jackson, Mattingly, Jeter.

 

[Megatron]

When I do that one (which will be after the dynasties) I'll do some of the franchises that have multiple answers that could be right to start off the debate. So yes, the Yankees will be one of the earlier ones. Along with the Red Sox, Cowboys, Steelers, Red Wings, Lakers, Celtics, etc.

 

[The Brain]

My fantasy baseball draft is in a couple hours. I usually have a pretty good plan but this year I really don't know what I want to do. I guess I'll just go with the flow and hope for the best.

 

[Stormtrooper]

My fantasy baseball draft is in a couple hours. I usually have a pretty good plan but this year I really don't know what I want to do. I guess I'll just go with the flow and hope for the best.

Take A-Rod. He's winning the MVP this year.

 

[Megatron]

He's not even the best option on his own team to win MVP. That's Cano. There's at least 5 or 6 guys I'd take in MVP before A-Rod. Cabrera, Hamilton, Mauer, Morneau, Cano, Gonzalez, and Longoria (if the Rays somehow manage to stay above .500 and in a tight race in the WC) off the top of my head.

 

[Stormtrooper]

He's not even the best option on his own team to win MVP. That's Cano. There's at least 5 or 6 guys I'd take in MVP before A-Rod. Cabrera, Hamilton, Mauer, Morneau, Cano, Gonzalez, and Longoria (if the Rays somehow manage to stay above .500 and in a tight race in the WC) off the top of my head.

Don't take it from me. Take it from respected National Baseball writers

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Alex-Rodriguez-looks-ready-for-another-huge-season-031911

Guys down 10 pounds, leaner, and healthy for the first time in years (not to mention he's fucking destroying the Grapefruit league, which doesn't mean that much). Plus won the MVP every odd year since 2003, excluding 2009, when, while injured, he put up MVP caliber numbers.

So basically, A-Rod likes odd years, is finally healthy for the first time since 2007 or 2008, and was finally freed from rehabbing an injury in the offseason. He's got more of a shot then you thing, especially more then Miguel Cabrera, who will end up winning the MVP of his rehab maybe, that's it.

 

[Megatron]

Don't take it from me. Take it from respected National Baseball writers

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Alex-Rodriguez-looks-ready-for-another-huge-season-031911

Guys down 10 pounds, leaner, and healthy for the first time in years (not to mention he's fucking destroying the Grapefruit league, which doesn't mean that much). Plus won the MVP every odd year since 2003, excluding 2009, when, while injured, he put up MVP caliber numbers.

But he's past his peak now. It's not like in 05 when he could bash 50 homers. Even with the short field in NY, he has missed 20+ games each of the last 3 years. Sure, he's healthy to start this year. But as you age, so does your body. And him missing 20 games would more then likely cost him a shot at the MVP, even if he was in teh running. Cano is reaching his peak and would be the best bet of the Yankees to get it.

So basically, A-Rod likes odd years, is finally healthy for the first time since 2007 or 2008, and was finally freed from rehabbing an injury in the offseason. He's got more of a shot then you thing, especially more then Miguel Cabrera, who will end up winning the MVP of his rehab maybe, that's it.

Yes, a 35 year old A-Rod has a better chance then a guy that's 28, has some good protection around him, and came in 2nd last year (and was top 3 in the triple crown categories). Please, take your Yankee colored glasses off for a minute and look at it objectively. Cabrera can spray it out everywhere and will have more chances with Martinez and Ordonez around him. Even two years ago when Cabrera was boozing it up he was 4th in the MVP and put up similar numbers. Maybe if A-Rod roids it up again like in 03 he'll have a chance.

And for the record, I don't have Cabrera winning the MVP. He's the best hitter in the AL, but I don't think the Tigers will make the playoffs, which almost always countns you out of the MVP, whether it's right or wrong. I have Adrian Gonzalez, who will absolutely kill it with the green monster. I'm expecting something like 40-40, since he's hit 30+ homers each of the last 4 years, and has had a high number of doubles (3 of the 4 years he had 30+).

EDIT: And I could use one spring training story to strengthen my case for Cabrera, even though Spring Training gives 0% indication of how anything will happen.

Here you go: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp...tebook_id=16997308&vkey=notebook_det&c_id=det

A-Rod isn't the only one having a good spring.

 

[Theo Mays]

The Phils are close to signing Luis Castillo to a deal. I'm all for that especially if Uts is gonna miss time (which I'm expecting). Castillo is still a decent defender from what I remember and will be a good guy to bat at two or at the bottom of the lineup.

 

[Stormtrooper]

But he's past his peak now. It's not like in 05 when he could bash 50 homers. Even with the short field in NY, he has missed 20+ games each of the last 3 years. Sure, he's healthy to start this year. But as you age, so does your body. And him missing 20 games would more then likely cost him a shot at the MVP, even if he was in teh running. Cano is reaching his peak and would be the best bet of the Yankees to get it.

He's not at his peak now. which is exactly why I said he's gonna have one last great year. I didn't say he's gonna be having 5 consecutive excellent years. I said 1 year.

And A-Rod is 100% healthy finally. First time in years. You wanna bring up he can get injured? Well so can Miguel Cabrera, Adrian Gondalzez, Josh Hamilton, or anyone.

Yes, a 35 year old A-Rod has a better chance then a guy that's 28, has some good protection around him, and came in 2nd last year (and was top 3 in the triple crown categories). Please, take your Yankee colored glasses off for a minute and look at it objectively. Cabrera can spray it out everywhere and will have more chances with Martinez and Ordonez around him. Even two years ago when Cabrera was boozing it up he was 4th in the MVP and put up similar numbers. Maybe if A-Rod roids it up again like in 03 he'll have a chance.

Yes, I think A-Rod, who has won over the majority of the writers enough to garner votes will have a better chance over a guy like Miguel Cabrera, who has had a great deal of legal issues, of which he should be in rehab right now.

And for the record, I don't have Cabrera winning the MVP. He's the best hitter in the AL, but I don't think the Tigers will make the playoffs, which almost always countns you out of the MVP, whether it's right or wrong. I have Adrian Gonzalez, who will absolutely kill it with the green monster. I'm expecting something like 40-40, since he's hit 30+ homers each of the last 4 years, and has had a high number of doubles (3 of the 4 years he had 30+).

EDIT: And I could use one spring training story to strengthen my case for Cabrera, even though Spring Training gives 0% indication of how anything will happen.

Here you go: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp...tebook_id=16997308&vkey=notebook_det&c_id=det

A-Rod isn't the only one having a good spring.

Ken Rosenthal is a reputable National Baseball Writer. This guy is some Tigers writer. Obviously there's a bit more credence in someone who's name is respected among baseball circles. But yes, A-Rod isn't the only guy who's doing well. But you ignore him like there's 0 chance he'll win, which is bullshit, A-Rod is still among the most talented players in the entire league, even at his advanced age. The guy is healthy again, and you act like he has no chance. When he's healthy, he is almost ALWAYS an MVP candidate.

The Phils are close to signing Luis Castillo to a deal. I'm all for that especially if Uts is gonna miss time (which I'm expecting). Castillo is still a decent defender from what I remember and will be a good guy to bat at two or at the bottom of the lineup.

Castillo is a good signing as a stopgap for the month or so before Utley is back. Castillo is a pretty good defender (except against A-Rod 2 out 9th inning popups), and can possibly be an adequate stopgap. Plus he's probably signed to the minimum, so if it doesn't work, just cut him.

 

[Theo Mays]

And reports Ive seen is that if he doesnt make the team we wont have to pay him the 414,000. Plus I think the Mets owe him a good chunk of change, so that is an added bonus haha. We also have Willy Valdez, who was great for us last year to fill in.

 

[Stormtrooper]

And reports Ive seen is that if he doesnt make the team we wont have to pay him the 414,000. Plus I think the Mets owe him a good chunk of change, so that is an added bonus haha. We also have Willy Valdez, who was great for us last year to fill in.

The Mets are giving him $6 Million to NOT play for them. It's a great move on their part, because he more then wore out his welcome with the team and the fans.

He's an injury replacement starter/backup play now. The Mets are better off without him, and the Phils are better off with him, if that makes sense.

 

[JGlass]

I can't believe both VCU and FSU won today. Great day to be a fan of the underdogs!