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You forgot about Matt Harvey. 9-3, 2.09 ERA, 0.86 WHIP on a crap Mets team. And considering they give the award to players on crap teams (see Dickey, R.A.) he's more then in the race, he could be leading it.

He's got the East Coast/New York bias going for him, but much like MVP, guys struggle to win Cy Youngs on losing teams. I'd probably vote for Harvey if the season ended today, but there are a lot of actual voters who won't.


He never would have been that good in New York. Couldn't handle the market. Still rooting for him to succeed, always liked him with the Yankees, even though he was wildly inconsistent then.

It's really weird how a salary dump trade turned into an ace for Pittsburgh. gives a lot of credit to the change of scenery theory, as well as the idea that some guys just do better in one league or the other.

And there go the Indians I know and love. You're the best, guys.
 
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You forgot about Matt Harvey. 9-3, 2.09 ERA, 0.86 WHIP on a crap Mets team. And considering they give the award to players on crap teams (see Dickey, R.A.) he's more then in the race, he could be leading it.
I did forget him. Liriano has more wins and a better ERA, but Harvey's WHIP is just incredible. If he's not right now, he'll be the best pitcher in baseball quite soon.
You're welcome.

He never would have been that good in New York. Couldn't handle the market. Still rooting for him to succeed, always liked him with the Yankees, even though he was wildly inconsistent then.
He was freaking terrible for the Yankees. I remember the fans wanted him run out of town. Whatever has changed, he's thrived in the small market, and not only has he pitched great, he's been a great leader and mentor for younger guys like Locke and Cole.


Fuck you. Here I was hoping for a Yankee/Pirates World Series so you and the pirate fans can have something special (as in the Yankees sweeping you just like in the 1927 World Series), but now you went and wanted to see the evil Red Sox. For shame, LSN, for shame.

:scratchchin: To be honest, I don't care if it's the Pirates and 'insert team here.' You're a Yankees fan, you're used to winning. This excitement for baseball is something I haven't felt in 20 years. Darn right Im going to enjoy it, regardless of whose expense it's at.

I'm not taking on any name change bet on behalf of the Red Sox. I'm a Patriots fan, a Celtics fan, and of course a Bruins fan, but while I don't hate them or anything, I'm not a fan of the Boston Red Sox.
So not a baseball fan, or simply not a BoSox fan?
It's really weird how a salary dump trade turned into an ace for Pittsburgh. gives a lot of credit to the change of scenery theory, as well as the idea that some guys just do better in one league or the other.
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The Pirates, despite he being incredibly erratic, really wanted him, salary dump or not. More importantly, he seemed excited from Day 1 to come to Pittsburgh, and he's pitched like it.
I think Harvey in the end will lose the CY race to Kershaw because of the innings diffrence there will be since Harvey's getting shut down

The same reason, I suspect, that Liriano won't win. He missed the first month of the season with a broken non-throwing arm.

What's truly incredible about Liriano is that he's gotten a decision in every start he's made. 16 starts, 12-4.
 
Lirano has been fantastic and much better then anyone could've expected but I'd probably have Harvey Kershaw and Wainwright ahead of him right now in the CY race.

As a side note I'm Really excited for the future of the Mets
 
So not a baseball fan, or simply not a BoSox fan?

Oh I'm a baseball fan (although less so than NHL or NFL). I'm actually about to put that on display in a few weeks when I win the Wrestlezone Fantasy Baseball League :)

I'm not really a fan of the BoSox. Right league, right division, but unfortunately, my team is sitting squarely in the basement :(
 
Lirano has been fantastic and much better then anyone could've expected but I'd probably have Harvey Kershaw and Wainwright ahead of him right now the CY race.

I coudn't argue against any of them getting the nod over Liriano. All of them have done it for an entire season, although Liriano has been an anchor essentially every time he's pitched.

Harvey having only 9 wins may work against him in the race.

As a side note I'm Really excited for the future of the Mets

A lot of good, young arms. Jennry Meigi looks like the real thing, and if Zack Wheeler can control his fastball, he could dominate. Some young bats too that if they put it together, they could contend in 2-3 years, perhaps sooner.
 
Oh I'm a baseball fan (although less so than NHL or NFL). I'm actually about to put that on display in a few weeks when I win the Wrestlezone Fantasy Baseball League :)
Only because I forgot to sign up. ;)

Baseball is second to me behind hockey, and I'm a huge Steelers fan. So as an even bigger Pirates fan, imagine how long-suffering it's been for me!

I'm not really a fan of the BoSox. Right league, right division, but unfortunately, my team is sitting squarely in the basement :(

How did you wind up a New Englander in everything but baseball? A Blue Jays fan? Really??
 
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Buccos need to call up Lambo ASAP.

Dude has serious power and has been crushing the ball lately. He has, what, two multi-home-run games in his last ten?

Looked it up. Has 31 Hr's, 94 RBI's, and is hitting .287 between Altoona and Indy. Yeah, I think he could only help our RF situation at this point.
 
Buccos have come back from 4-0 down to tie it, and it's a battle of the bullpens now.

I'm feeling good about a sweep right now, even with our scrub lineup in.

'Cutch and Martin are available off the bench, it appears.
 

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