The Rock Beats Punk. Again.

[Bernkastel]

You could say that... if you're dumb. It's every top star's job to draw, and while I'm by no means saying that Punk doesn't draw, he certainly doesn't draw more than The Rock.

Er... but that's not what I said. I said it wasn't Punks job to draw; it's the Rock's job to draw..

 

[shattered dreams]

Not this many. Last year it went up 12% and in 2011 it went up 8%. A 21% jump is more than the last two years combined. I'd think that means a bit of something.

So the Rock gets extra credit for the product being more obviously inferior throughout the rest of the year now?

You also have to be careful with percentages. An increase from 1 to 2 is 100% while an increase from 10 to 11 is only 10%. That doesn't mean 11 is less than 2.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

The show last year after the Rumble drew more viewers. Punk was champion then. Wrestling ratings are cyclical. Comparing anything less than a year in the past without an adjustment of some sort is largely meaningless.

In the case of number of viewers, are you taking in to account two vs. three hours?

Or are you just countering a shitty argument with another shitty argument?

 

[shattered dreams]

In the case of number of viewers, are you taking in to account two vs. three hours?

Or are you just countering a shitty argument with another shitty argument?

I was mostly countering a shitty argument with a lazy one. As best I remember this would still be true even if you did some kind of suspicious 3 to 2 direct conversion.

Last years show was the highest rated in 8 months.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I was mostly countering a shitty argument with a lazy one. As best I remember this would still be true even if you did some kind of suspicious 3 to 2 direct conversion.

Last years show was the highest rated in 8 months.

That just sounds perverted.

Send pics.

 

[shattered dreams]

3 girls. 2 cups. 50-100 percent more fun.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

It's the same argument over and over again really. Once Mania is over, once Rock and Brock are gone, Taker's on his one year break, and Cena's champions going up against Punk and whoever else is flavor of the month ratings will go down again. Of course until this time next year when we have the same argument again. Actually give it till Summerslam till people start complaining again as the Mania nostalgia effect varies each year.

 

[Galvatron]

So the ratings went up because Punk is not champion anymore. Hahahahaha. Im sure it had nothing to do with an A-List movie star and one of the greatest wwe superstars of all time holding the wwe championship for the first time in ten years. I can't wait to see the rating return to exactly what it was on the raw 2 weeks after Wrestlemania when all the part time legends leave again.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

I can't imagine if anything less was expected of this Raw.

A bonafide moviestar winning the title...AND HE IS NOT BANGING COURTNEY'S COX!

 

[JGlass]

Er... but that's not what I said. I said it wasn't Punks job to draw; it's the Rock's job to draw..

And what I'm saying is that it is Punk's job to draw. He's a top star, he should be able to draw.

 

[One Punch Doug Crashin]

Er... but that's not what I said. I said it wasn't Punks job to draw; it's the Rock's job to draw..

Excuse me? You're serious aren't you. A champions Job IS to draw as much as possible. Weather is be CM Punk or Da Rock.

 

[D-Man]

This just reinforces my answer to people who think that it doesn't make sense for a "part-timer" like The Rock to hold the WWE championship. The 21% increase just shows how many people who didn't buy the PPV still wanted to tune into a WWE program to see The Rock holding the WWE championship. Imagine what will happen once TMZ, The Insider, and other pop-culture shows catch onto this. So far, all signs are pointing to Wrestlemania buyrates skyrocketing.

CM Punk is awesome in just about every way... except for drawing ratings.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

The idea that the champ is supposed to be the main draw is about 50 years outdated. The champ may not even wrestle on a program and is even less likely to defend the belt. This isn't 1958 with marquees and posters on telephone poles.

Punk's a pretty good draw. He has some loyal fans but he is also not in The Rock's league. However, it is not realistic to expect him to compete with special attractions. Most of Punk's fans are loyal to professional wrestling and WWE. They are likely to watch the show regardless. Maybe he was expected to bring in a counter culture out there of any teens who think life is out to get them but that is unlikely since those kids are not likely to put up with the sillyness of pro wrestling.

What was my point? I don't know, I've just seen some really basic lazy arguments in this thread and I thought we were better than that.

(I didn't really think we were better than that)

 

[Shocky]

Isn't this down from Last Years night after the Rumble when Punk was the Champ?

Football season is over, the fans are coming back because they know the WWE isn't putting on shitty half assed storylines. It has less to do with the Rock, and more to do with people knowing what time of year it is.

Edit:
2013: 5.019 million viewers *over a three hour show.
2012: 5.22 million viewers.

So basically a push from last year.

 

[Miko]

Isn't this down from Last Years night after the Rumble when Punk was the Champ?

Football season is over, the fans are coming back because they know the WWE isn't putting on shitty half assed storylines. It has less to do with the Rock, and more to do with people knowing what time of year it is.

Edit:
2013: 5.019 million viewers *over a three hour show.
2012: 5.22 million viewers.

So basically a push from last year.

What were the ratings for the Raw before the rumble in 2012 compared to 2013?

 

[Shocky]

What were the ratings for the Raw before the rumble in 2012 compared to 2013?

Go Home Show 2013: 4.32 million
Go Home Show 2012: 4.62 million

People have to be careful when comparing Ratings year to year. Nielsen changes the value of their point system each year. Ratings go down, because the points are weighted differently. The better number is finding the actual viewers watch. Year to year, it's basically the same.

 

[Miko]

Go Home Show 2013: 4.32 million
Go Home Show 2012: 4.62 million

People have to be careful when comparing Ratings year to year. Nielsen changes the value of their point system each year. Ratings go down, because the points are weighted differently. The better number is finding the actual viewers watch. Year to year, it's basically the same.

Sorry yeah thats what I meant, the amount of viewers is what I was interested in knowing.

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

Not too big a surprise. I imagine people were pleased to see The Dwayne walk out of the Rumble as champ and see how WWE began the Road to WrestleMania. Hopefully the return of The Brock keeps those people hooked.

 

[Bernkastel]

And what I'm saying is that it is Punk's job to draw. He's a top star, he should be able to draw.

Excuse me? You're serious aren't you. A champions Job IS to draw as much as possible. Weather is be CM Punk or Da Rock.

And since when is it the heels job to draw? Maybe that's the reason WWE has been getting such bad ratings recently. It's the heel's job to make the face look good so that he draws.

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

More people wanted to hear what the Rock says, he got over 5 million viewers for his segment.. Sounds good. Also being WrestleMania season, ratings should stay around 3.5-3.8

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

I would expect ratings to dip again personally, but for them to stay above 3, maybe 3.1.

 

[ヒュー　G.　レックション]

And since when is it the heels job to draw? Maybe that's the reason WWE has been getting such bad ratings recently. It's the heel's job to make the face look good so that he draws.

Did Punk draw as a face? (Genuine question btw I don't actually know)

 

[Coco]

CM Punk is awesome in just about every way... except for drawing ratings.

Since Raw 1000, Punk's averaged higher quarter hours on Raw than any other regular cast member.

Not being Rock when it comes to ratings doesn't mean Punk sucks at it.

 

[Bernkastel]

Did Punk draw as a face? (Genuine question btw I don't actually know)

I can't remember because he's been a heel for at least the past 6 months.

 

[shattered dreams]

The 21% increase just shows how many people who didn't buy the PPV still wanted to tune into a WWE program to see The Rock holding the WWE championship.

If they didn't buy the PPV, how did they know who was champ? Attributing this all to Rock is silly.

Imagine what will happen once TMZ, The Insider, and other pop-culture shows catch onto this.

Last year it didn't mean much as best I remember.

So far, all signs are pointing to Wrestlemania buyrates skyrocketing.

Are you serious? Please lists these signs and define skyrocketing.

CM Punk is awesome in just about every way... except for drawing ratings.

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